Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? No. They won't abandone their own voice, but the Vocalizer voices in some regions that have in-house voices have a good chance of being abandoned. Apple hasn't even updated their Vocalizer library in years, because we're missing Nathan and Malcum. The only new premium vocalizer voices I actually quite like. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551113/#p551113 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Because of Apple making a lot of new voices, does that mean Alex has been abandoned? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551112/#p551112 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? An interim undertaking could be making an arm distribution for android out of the dectalk source code that was released a while back, but apart from a few people working on homegrown speech synthesis in their spare time, there really isn't a large community interest surrounding that. And when you're talking c-code, you kind of need that if it means a code conversion. It would be far from the dectalk we all know and love since the code for that was never found, but it would be pretty much Mobile Speak resemblence on a droid. Counts for something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551102/#p551102 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @ignatriay: The only thing they really ever truly innovated on was Talks, but that was when they actually had an a t department. That era has come and gone. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551101/#p551101 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Apple appears to be taking a different avenue altogether. Even if they aren't going in-house they're probably going through a different spinoff research firm, given the Apple's machine learning made it into an offline chipset. Google's probably could considering they are gradually scaling down to make the resources a little less overkill, but they're a long way off from, say, packaging it all as a thunderbolt-driven hardware speech synthesizer. As such, Apple's machine learning for the Nora voice is menial at best. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551099/#p551099 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @23The default for an open source project without a license is that no one can use it for anything. It's not default open, it's default closed. Knowing this is the hello world of I googled the basics of software copyright for 2 minutes. You have to pick a license, you have to understand the implication of the license you picked, and once you have other contributors to the project you can't ever change that license unless you had contributor license agreements signed by all parties.These laws and ideas you want us to disregard because it's free are why NVDA will never be bundled with Windows itself, and why Microsoft has to maintain narrator. NVDA is also a good example of getting it right, though, because understanding software IP laws is what prevented Freedom Scientific or someone from taking everything they've done, putting it in Jaws, and getting tons of work for free.But screw this up and you can never sell your game (because if you, for example, bring in GPL code you can't keep it closed source). Screw this up and you can't get your software into commercial products even if you're popular enough that someone wants to. Screw this up if you're doing a library and no one can use your library. You can decide to not care, but that's unethical even disregarding the laws as it disregards the wishes of the person who put their time into it, probably for free. But more to the point disregarding it only works as long as you're so tiny that no one will ever care, and it will ensure that no one can ever care, either.@24Nuance is long-term dead, unless Google licenses their patents. I understand some of Google's work, and some of their papers would factor into my very long-term plan of implementing a new Eloquence. At this point, Google is likely only able to do what they do because of the TPU, a custom chip for machine learning that makes GPUs look like vacuum tubes and punch cards, which no other company has access to without buying machine learning from Google.My guess isn't Apple goes in house. My guess is, as ironic as it is, Apple licenses from Google. Barring some small startups and universities, Google is the only company doing interesting things with machine learning at the moment. But we'll see what happens. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551090/#p551090 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
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Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @ jack, I dunno if I would say innovating and nuance in the same sentance lol. Nuanced doesn't really innovate, they just steel other's hard work, patch it here and there; and bingo. New product. I'm curious about something though. Given monopolies are illigal and nuance was one for a long time, given it barely had any competition, shouldn't they be sued or something for monopolizing? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551011/#p551011 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @NevEd: Should have, indeed. It's a general lack of technical competence at a legislative level that has saved Nuance's ass so far, since all the antiturst investigations I'm aware of were flubbed. Plus, up until a few years ago, they've had the advntage of almost no competition in the text to speech/automatic speech recognition market. Google/Amazon haven't exactly destroyed Nuance, but they have certainly stifled Nuance's ability to innovate much further. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/551001/#p551001 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? I found a way to get the APK file for Eloquence URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550966/#p550966 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Sounds as if Nuance should've been given the boot a long time ago in that case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550964/#p550964 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @NevEd: you really need to research Nuance's history to understand the whole of it. This isn't a matter of things were open source and got sold - in fact, gpl is legally binding, so a gpl violation is no joke. That isn't to say a software patent can't come for your head, but you do at least have some leverage in that department. The fact of the matter is that these were actually well-established companies (Royal Philips Electronics, BeVocal, Loquendo, SVox, L, Eloquent Technologies, you name it). All the companies they have acquired through shady manipulation. The literal only reason why Nuance has not taken over the tts market entirely is because they have Google and Amazon/Ivona as actual legitimate competition. They might even risk losing a foothold or two in some first world markets if Apple manages to in-house major languages, which they are slowly but surely working on doing. IT doesn't make Nuance any less of a thieving conglomerate, they're just no longer center stage because Google has tens times the amount of compute power that even Nuance could think of having to generate frighteningly realistic speech. That is literally it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550962/#p550962 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? I don't understand why an open source project might become an issue if you're popular, or become more popular. Just don't allow it to be sold. Period. If someone sells something without your permission, sue the person selling it, not the guy who made the program. If parties are going to actively not support a piece of software that people do use, and not for nothing, and hoard the code because "muh money muh money," they're just being brats. And if its made open source, that's it.Its stupid, stingy corporate shit and it annoys me. Because people out there abuse broken systems all the time and because we're common folk that get screwed by the rich and powerful with money to buy themselves out of anything, we have no say in anything. I'm expanding beyond this simple issue though and all that is just another topic in itself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550943/#p550943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? I don't understand why an open source project might become an issue if you're popular, or become more popular. Just don't allow it to be sold. Period. If someone sells something without your permission, sue the person selling it, not the guy who made the program. If parties are going to actively not support a piece of software that people do use, and not for nothing, and hoard the code because "muh money muh money," they're just being brats. And if its made open source, that's it.Its stupid, stingy corporate shit and it annoys me. Because people out there abuse broken systems all the time and because we're common folk that get screwed by the rich and powerful with money to buy themselves out of anything, we have no say in anything. I'm expanding beyond this simple isshe though and all that is just another topic in itself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550943/#p550943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? I don't understand why an open source project might become an issue if you're popular, or become more popular. Just don't allow it to be sold. Period. If someone sells something without your permission, sue the person selling it, not the guy who made the program. If parties are going to actively not support a piece of software that people do use, and not for nothing, and hoard the code because "muh money muh money," they're just being brats. And if its made open source, that's it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550943/#p550943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @20It's not as bad as all that, if you plan for the ability to open source. It's not as much red tape as you'd think either in the common case. And, what most people don't realize is that all of this "red tape" applies to your open source and/or personal project too, and is just sitting out there waiting to bite you as soon as you get a little bit popular for not knowing how it works.I wish this forum would have less disdain overall for bothering to understand software licensing issues, especially the programmer subset. It's not that hard, it's important, and "I don't care" is only a useful answer to that question for a very short period of time when you're first learning.@21Well yes and no. Android definitely pushes things in favor of having source somewhere, though, now that you've pointed it out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550932/#p550932 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @camlorn; They had to have had the source code to do the Android port, unless of course they had a compiled arm linux-embedded sdk already. The only still maintained Eloquence for Linux is Voxin, and even that was never made for Arm because it was based off of the Wizard Software Viavoice distribution. Either way, they're freaking Nuance. After acquiring numerous speech companies through pretty shady hostile takeover tactics that nearly put them under antitrust investigation, the last thing they are going to do is let go of something they own. It takes a lot of resources to actively support it, but they can hold on to the trademark for all its worth. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550915/#p550915 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? I remember installing Eloquence on my touch back when I still had it. I did have to get it cracked. Really would be smart if they would just release the source code, either for free or for a low price, preferably for free. If they really wanna milk it some more.I never got the hang of using my screen reader at fast speeds honestly. Everytime I watch a another blind person use the computer the speech rate always is so goddamn fast lol.On the topic of braillenotes, I did take my old mpower with the broken enter key, wiggly usb ports, and fucked up power jack out of the closet though and manage to get the files that were on it onto the CF card that came with my MPC the other day. I was a stupid kid.Edit: Just noticed @19's post. This is why I don't want to be involved in the corporate world on a high level. To much red tape, and in general stupid bullshit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550911/#p550911 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? I remember installing Eloquence on my touch back when I still had it. I did have to get it cracked. Really would be smart if they would just release the source code, either for free or for a low price, preferably for free. If they really wanna milk it some more.I never got the hang of using my screen reader at fast speeds honestly. Everytime I watch a another blind person use the computer the speech rate always is so goddamn fast lol.On the topic of braillenotes, I did take my old mpower with the broken enter key, wiggly usb ports, and fucked up power jack out of the closet though and manage to get the files that were on it onto the CF card that came with my MPC the other day. I was a stupid kid. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550911/#p550911 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @17 @18You can't just port old 32 bit C code to 64 bit, assuming that the old C code exists. It's quite possible that no one even has the source code to eloquence anymore, and that it doesn't even compile on modern compilers.I wish Nuance would just let it go, but everyone always forgets that it actually takes *significant* resources for them to support it if they decided to support it. My guess is that there's patents involved and that even if they decided they wanted to open source it, they're not in the legal position to do so without opening themselves up to other problems. It's not just some big switch labeled "open source on/off" or something; taking an already existing product from 20 years ago that you probably don't even have the developers for starts at months of lawyers and a really big code review at minimum. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550908/#p550908 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @ Jack... that's odd. If they will not support a 64 bit compile, why hold on to the rights and software in the first place? 32 bit is still around, however its being less and less used each time. If they keep hold of the rights and software, lol they're holding to a useless thing, given 32 bit is going to get replaced with 64 bit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550902/#p550902 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Confusingly enough, Nuance said they would not support of a 64bit compile, but they're still holding on to the right s to the product according to Code FActory. Typical freaking Nuance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550876/#p550876 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Yeah, it's pretty easy to find if you know where to look, but I won't say where, as that might potentially still get me a warning, so yeah. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550852/#p550852 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Either way, there's really nothing stopping you from (as others have mentioned) getting an unofficial Eloquence APK and running that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550455/#p550455 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Ooohh! This looks messy. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550359/#p550359 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @7, where did you find that information? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550330/#p550330 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? ESpeak? I think I saw that on the Play Store, maybe I should get that right now so it doesn't get removed when I get home from work today or something, since it can actually pronounce all the words that I use in my books correctly. Accapella, however, sucks so hard that it can say about 0 percent of the made up words, and it can't say Anastacia. If I have the option of using a voice that can't say Anastacia, I'm not using it. It can't even say booss, it says:Boe oss.I don't even know why Humanware bothered with Crappapella, even something like Keynote Gold from the Apex would've been better. Though it can't pronounce some Manamon names, at least it can say Anastacia, booss, coollege (that's how it's spelled in the books), Javoltrik, Volanteril, Sirenea, Kangachan, I could go on and on forever. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550284/#p550284 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Yeah, I considered buying eloquence for windows from codefactory, but given that they might choose to kill it at any point... Just ugh. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550219/#p550219 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? So apparently Eloquence is no longer supported by anyone which is why it was removed from the play store. Yes you can get an APK, but Google being stupid made it so that you can't make android install apps that aren't from the play store unless you allow certain apps to do so, and humanware's file manager isn't one of those apps you can allow. You can't just choose an app, I guess Google has some sort of pre-approval process, bloody stupid if you ask me. But as far as doing it on the touch plus, I had to copy the APK to google drive first, using my polaris sense that was what I was using before I upgraded, then open it from there. And honestly sense all licenses for eloquence are considered null and void I would say getting this isn't considered piracy as you can't even buy it anyway. Although in the future it won't be possible to run eloquence because if the roomers are correct Google might be going the way apple went and disable 32 bit apps. It'll be interesting to see what Freedom Scientific does with jaws now that it's not possible for a company to get eloquence. HIMS was ahead of the game by 3 years, as the polaris didn't get eloquence, it has vocalizer which in my opinion sucked because I'm honestly not a fan of realistic voices like that unless I'm trying to make a tts skit, because eloquence and e-speak are light weight, and easy to understand at fast speeds. I don't need human like speech to browse the web. Maybe for reading something like a book or whatever, but the whole point of fast speech isn't to be realistic, it's to be able to keep up with the sighted world. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550200/#p550200 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? @4, my point exactly. I know a friend who bouget eloquence for android, and for code factory to remove it out of the blue... kinda feels like a ripoff... They brought it down on themselves though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550199/#p550199 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? Well, at least their''s vocalizer. Anything's better than crappapela. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550195/#p550195 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? It is around, just not on the play store. I'm not normally for getting a paid product for free, especially when I have the money to buy it, and I actually bought Eloquence off the Playstore when it was still on there, but code factory basically did that to themselves by removing it from the play store. I won't give a link here as I don't want to get a warning, but it shouldn't be that hard to find. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550194/#p550194 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? you can if you get it cracked. I mean, with codefactory removing elequence from the playstore... they've lost all their rights to it; in my opinion, that, not to mention... a bunch of userswasted money, given one cannot ask for a refund. @1 yes, its still around, just not on the playstore. Or if you have an old braillenote with elequence, there might be a way to tranfer it; or... I really don't know. That was a bad move from codefactory to remove eloquence from the playstore, but oh well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550191/#p550191 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? you can if you get it per say, cracracked. I mean, with codefactory removing elequence from the playstore... they've lost all their rights to it; not to mention... a bunch of userswasted money, given one cannot ask fo a refond. @1 yes, its still around, just not on the playstore. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550191/#p550191 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Re: Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? you can't get it any more URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550186/#p550186 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible?
Eloquence on Braille Note Touch Plus, is it possible? I just recieved the Braille Note Touch Plus, and heard that you could buy Eloquence from the play store. I went to the play store and searched Eloquence text to speech, but only found vocalizer. Is it still possible to buy eloquence? And if so, how do you do it? I've never used other Braille Notes before, so I'm very new to this. I checked the Text to speech settings in options, and Eloquence wasn't an option. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/550177/#p550177 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
