Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Hi,Do anyone know, if there's a way to get the old Vocalizer voices for SAPI? Not Vocalizer Expressive, but the old Vocalizer, that includes the Danish voice Ida.Thanks in advance.Best regards:Aksel Christoffersen URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/396240/#p396240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers A quick note. I am the person who modified the NVDA SAPI 4, 5, and ESpeak drivers to not block embedded commands. Just be aware that if you choose to use that addon, it is using outdated drivers, I don't remember what version the drivers are based off exactly, likely pre 2016.2, and may break if NVDA makes any code changes in the future. And no, I didn't write the drivers, I modified the native drivers in NVDA. I should have clarified that when I released the addon, but I guess it's too late now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357849#p357849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers No, I don't. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357770#p357770 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Ok, but again, thank you so mutch for all the help! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357771#p357771 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Ok, thank you so mutch, but do you know, what's the default value for the SAPI 4 version, if it's words minute? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357760#p357760 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers It doesn't really matter how high or low, but do keep in mind that most engines have a certain range. Going over those ranges really doesn't do anything. Try experimenting. More SAPI4 control tags and SAPI5 XML tags are found in the Help manual. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357759#p357759 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Ok, I've now downloaded this Balabolka app, and boath commands works in it. But a last question: How low and high can I set the values? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357749#p357749 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers The reason it doesn't work in JAWS is because, as I said, screen readers have certain punctuation filters that block out certain commands from being entered within SAPI, the only ones that don't do that are System Access and NVDA (using the embedded comand block remover NVDA add-on from Jake Gross' webste under the Synthesizers for NVDA section). URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357739#p357739 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Hi,Thanks for the information, but I can't get any of the two examples with speed working.Here is, what I've done:In the SAPI 5-example, I choose Microsoft Sam in JAWS, opened a word-document, and typed this:soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoiI then pressed insert+a, but it just reads the symbols and text with no change in speed.In the SAPI 4 example, I opened Speakonia, and typed this:\Spd=100\soisoisoi\Spd=50\soisoisoiI then pressed f5 to play it, but with same result as in the SAPI 5 example.What do I do wrong?Best regards:Aksel Christoffersen URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357732#p357732 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Hi.1. If you are using the Microsoft SAPI5 version of Microsoft Sam, the command to change speed in the middle of a block of text is , where X represents any number, with 0 being the default, where negative values make the rate slower, and positive values make the speech rate faster. If using the SAPI4 version, the command to control the rate of speech is \Spd=X\, where X represents a value in words per minute.2. I don't know if Speakonia supports these control tags, as I don't use it (I use Balabolka), you can try the SAPI4 control tag to change the voice. For example, you could try \Vce=Speaker=Sam\This is a test \Vce=Speaker=Mike\of changing voices.Please note that some speech engines MAY or MAY NOT support this tag. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357730#p357730 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Ok, now, I've some more questions, about speech synthesizers:1. I've making some fun with the so called roflcopter with Microsoft Sam, but is there a command to speed the voice up within a line of text, so I for example can make a sound of a roflcopter speeding up?2. In speakonia, is there a way to make a single audio file with various voices reading text after each other, or do I just have to make each file it self? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=357629#p357629 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Hi.Here are your answers. This may be long, so be patient.1. Is there someway to get a Dectalk-version working with newer JAWS-versions? Does it exist for SAPI 5 or something?As Jack stated, no, there is no longer a way to get DECtalk Access32 version 4.41 working with newer versions of JAWS, through software, that is. Hardware versions of DECtalk like the USB will work, don't know about the Express as I don't own any of these units myself. Wish I did, but alas, that wasn't meant to be. That said, if you want that classic DECtalk sound we all know and love, go with DECtalk for NVDA as that still works. There IS a SAPI5 version of DECtalk floating around, but it's based on DECtalk 4.6.4, which, it's sort of the classic DECtalk sound, but not exactly. I wouldn't advise you get it, unless you want DECtalk SAPI5 so badly and you don't care how it sounds.2. I know Dectalk can sings, because I've found some files with Dectalk-songs, but how to do it?Again, just like Jack stated, DECtalk singing involves assigning phonemes to pitches (from 1 to 37), or in hertz. As for guides, many folks have made guides available on making DECtalk sing. One such fellow is Snoopi Botten, who I guess you could say is a well-known DECtalk user.3. I've also found a guide to make Eloquence singing, but it doesn't work for me on that Eloquence build in JAWS. What do I need to get it working?On some guides, the way of making Eloquence sing is the same, but one difference across versions is the way you enter the commands to make Eloquence sing. For example, on JAWS and NVDA, it uses the backquote symbol, not to be confused with the grave accent symbol located to the left of the 1 key on the keyboard, but a different one. Don't remember how to enter it as I don't use Eloquence with NVDA though, so if someone could tell how to enter it, that would be nice. On the Android version, as well as the Eloquence speak window found on grossgang.com/tts/ the symbol to use is the grave accent, which is located to the left of the 1 key, so it would look something like this.`vb65 `vs140 This is a test.4. I've heard some funny Microsoft Sam things, but I think, they sound different. Do there exist various versions of Microsoft Sam sounding different?There are two versions of Microsoft Sam that sound different in the their inflection and how they say things. This information also applies to Mike and Mary.The first version, sometimes called Speakonian Microsoft Sam or SAPI4 Microsoft Sam, was bundled with Windows 2000. You can get this version working on newer versions of Windows by installing the SAPI4 runtime and the Microsoft TTS engine version 4.0, and this will get you that version of Sam. The only drawback to this is that you can't use it with many things. The only things you can use it with, as far as I know, are screen readers, TTS programs like Balabolka, and many old or early versions of software, such as old versions of programs from APH. The reason why it's called Speakonian Microsoft Sam is because the program Speakonia only can use SAPI4 voices, meaning that you can use Microsoft Sam in that program as well. This version is very popular on YouTube. Emphasis on very popular.The second version, called SAPI5 Microsoft Sam or Natural Microsoft Sam by some, is the version that was bundled with Windows XP. You'll rarely find this version used on YouTube, if at all. You can get this version of Sam working on anything newer than XP if you install WinXP_TTS_Voices, which you can get from grossgang.com/tts/ under the SAPI voices directory.5. Can I, in some way, make a speech synthesizer change it's rate within a line on text?Yes, you can. Depending on the synth in question, the way of accessing the rate command is different. For example, Eloquence uses the tag `vs, MacinTalk uses the tag [[rate xx]], and so on. Keep in mind that, due to how screen readers handle punctuation, these commands may not work without modifications. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=349817#p349817 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers Hi.Here are your answers. This may be long, so be patient.1. Is there someway to get a Dectalk-version working with newer JAWS-versions? Does it exist for SAPI 5 or something?As Jack stated, no, there is no longer a way to get DECtalk Access32 version 4.41 working with newer versions of JAWS, through software, that is. Hardware versions of DECtalk like the USB will work, don't know about the Express as I don't own any of these units myself. Wish I did, but alas, that wasn't meant to be. That said, if you want that classic DECtalk sound we all know and love, go with DECtalk for NVDA as that still works. There IS a SAPI5 version of DECtalk floating around, but it's based on DECtalk 4.6.4, which, it's sort of the classic DECtalk sound, but not exactly. I wouldn't advise you get it, unless you want DECtalk SAPI5 so badly and you don't care how it sounds.2. I know Dectalk can sings, because I've found some files with Dectalk-songs, but how to do it?Again, just like Jack stated, DECtalk singing involves assigning phonemes to pitches (from 1 to 37), or in hertz. As for guides, many folks have made guides available on making DECtalk sing. One such fellow is Snoopi Botten, who I guess you could say is a well-known DECtalk user.3. I've also found a guide to make Eloquence singing, but it doesn't work for me on that Eloquence build in JAWS. What do I need to get it working?On some guides, the way of making Eloquence sing is the same, but one difference across versions is the way you enter the commands to make Eloquence sing. For example, on JAWS and NVDA, it uses the backquote symbol, not to be confused with the grave accent symbol located to the left of the 1 key on the keyboard, but a different one. Don't remember how to enter it as I don't use Eloquence with NVDA though, so if someone could tell how to enter it, that would be nice. On the Android version, as well as the Eloquence speak window found on grossgang.com/tts/ the symbol to use is the grave accent, which is located to the left of the 1 key, so it would look something like this.`vb65 `vs140 This is a test.4. I've heard some funny Microsoft Sam things, but I think, they sound different. Do there exist various versions of Microsoft Sam sounding different?There are two versions of Microsoft Sam that sound different in the their inflection and how they say things. This information also applies to Mike and Mary.The first version, sometimes called Speakonian Microsoft Sam or SAPI4 Microsoft Sam, was bundled with Windows 2000. You can get this version working on newer versions of Windows by installing the SAPI4 runtime and the Microsoft TTS engine version 4.0, and this will get you that version of Sam. The only drawback to this is that you can't use it with many things. The only things you can use it with, as far as I know, are screen readers and many old or early versions of software, such as old versions of programs from APH. The reason why it's called Speakonian Microsoft Sam is because the program Speakonia only can use SAPI4 voices, meaning that you can use Microsoft Sam in that program as well. This version is very popular on YouTube. Emphasis on very popular.The second version, called SAPI5 Microsoft Sam or Natural Microsoft Sam by some, is the version that was bundled with Windows XP. You'll rarely find this version used on YouTube, if at all. You can get this version of Sam working on anything newer than XP if you install WinXP_TTS_Voices, which you can get from grossgang.com/tts/ under the SAPI voices directory.5. Can I, in some way, make a speech synthesizer change it's rate within a line on text?Yes, you can. Depending on the synth in question, the way of accessing the rate command is different. For example, Eloquence uses the tag `vs, MacinTalk uses the tag [[rate xx]], and so on. Keep in mind that, due to how screen readers handle punctuation, these commands may not work without modifications. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=349817#p349817 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers
Re: Questions about speech synthesizers 1. No, there is no longer a way to make dectalk work with later versions of jaws. Try dectalk for nvda as that still works.2. Dectalk singing involves assigning phonetic sounds to various pitches, 1 to 37 for a three octave range, and time values measured in milliseconds. There are guides written by various folks interested in dectalk on how to make it sing. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=349805#p349805 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
