Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zkline via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering If you install openjdk or adopt-openjdk from home-brew you should be good. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/618547/#p618547 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zenothrax via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering It prompts me to install the JRE, then when I click more info it redirects me to the Java download page.When I download the JRE disk image from Oracle, then run the application inside, it says I have no JRE installed on the system. Their links must not be labeled right, because the page says the image is for installing the JRE on mac.I already have homebrew installed, so I'll look through their packages. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/618499/#p618499 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-25
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering zenothrax,What happens if you go into a Terminal on the mac and run java from the command line?It should prompt you to download and install a JRE. Alternatively, you can install one from HOmebrew or another package manager. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/618362/#p618362 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-22
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Also I just thought about this. If you use the technique I do (sleeve your cards, then label your sleeves), you can play paper magic (or pokemon, Etc.) If there are enough people interested, we could start a voice chat group (telegram, discord, Etc.) where we could play TCG's in paper over the internet. A blind commander discord server sounds fun, actually. You can buy Kaldheim commander decks on Card Kingdom right now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617592/#p617592 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zenothrax via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Now if only I could get Java to install on my mac. Each time I run the JRE installer it says there isn't a java installation on the system... Well no shit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617591/#p617591 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vcaparica via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
dan_c: You can go with the Auto button, that taps mana for you, but when you play with two or more colors it is oftenly useful to tap it yourself to be sure that you'll be using the sources you want to. If you have, for example, Forest, Forest, and Stomping Ground (a green/red land), and you have two cards in hand, one costing {1}{G} and the other costing {R}, you will want to use the Forests for the first, and leave the Stomping Grounds to generate the R. Most times, however, you can just hit Auto and go ahead.zenothrax: Pauper and Commander can be much cheaper, of course, but Arena is one of the most honest free to play games I've ever played. My wife is sighted and she plays there and interacts with the screen for me so I can play too (currently I'm on ranking Platinum 3 this season). To build some competitive decks you will spend some money or a lot of time, sure, but to build your first strong, competitive deck it takes around one month of play and perhaps five dollars to buy the very valuable Welcome Bundle. To dive into competitions you will surely need to spend a lot of cash, but to play and have a lot of fun you just need the time to do it. And accessibility, of course, it would be just amazing to play Arena on my own. Until then, Forge is serving me alright.By the way, you can all go to the Wizards of the Coast's Magic the Gathering website, click on contact and send a request for screen reader accessibility on Arena. It begins with requests.
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zkline via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Hey all,Just a tip which is generally applicable to games, and possibly Forge as well.Make sure your Windows display scaling is set to 100%. This should help with cases where NVDA's mouse routing behaves weirdly in some cases.This tip brought to you by another project I've been working on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617551/#p617551 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-22
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering vcaparica, I appreciate the detailed description of the game UI, as it's been a while since i looked at this myself, and I have never been the best at writing step-by-step stuff because I tend to assume people know things they might not. Dan_C, generally the game is smart enough to tap your lands for you. It won't let you play a card if you don't have the manna to do so. That being said you can always manually tap it yourself if you prefer, though I never found situations where that was useful. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617543/#p617543 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zenothrax via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Accessible MTG Arena, now that would be awesome. Unfortunately there's no commander or pauper on Arena, and with the amount of money you need to spend on Arena, pauper would make sense to have implemented. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617536/#p617536 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering well before I start playing, i'm going to look for some good videos that explain game flow. there's a lot to this, so I need to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing and when. I've read the basics, but I feel like seeing it in action will be more helpful. I do have a question though.When highlighting a card, I notice it comes up in the card overlay. when I click it, does it automatically set it on the field and tap the mana if any, or do I have to do something special for that? luckily the game has sounds for a fair few events it looks like so once I get the hang of what those mean as well, that should help.I'm determined to figure out how to play with this and understand the game as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617534/#p617534 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vcaparica via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering About good introductory decks, I normally recommend Mono Red aggressive decks, usually named "Red Deck Wins", not because they are the best (in fact, there's no such thing as the best deck of all) but because they are very straightforward, no subtle playing nuances, you drop your lands and throw as much damage as you can each turn. In the preconstructed decks that come with Forge, Lightning Aggro and Cavalcade Charge are two good examples.Another thing that made me angry for a while and rzkline generously explained: If you accidentally hit F11, the game will go to full screen mode, and NVDA's Golden Cursor will not work. Just hit F11 again and things get back to their place.About the card references, it depends. If I just want to read some card's details, I go to scryfall. Just typing the card's name and the word scryfall on google will return it on the first result. Scryfall is great because it presents card details as text and puts the card title and cost in a page header, very easy to navigate to. Now, if I'm researching cards, looking for something that has this effect and that cost and this rarity and that color, then I use Forge's deck editor, for it can filter cards in many, mny ways.Everyone can feel free to ask me questions about how to use Forge. I surely don't know everything, and sometimes I go for one or two days without opening this forum, but I'll be glad to help as I can. Magic is a wonderful game and the more blind people learn to play, the more it gets possible to push Wizards of the Coast to make MtG Arena accessible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617525/#p617525 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering I've always wanted to play magic the gattering, but I still have to learn how to use nvda's nav mode. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617408/#p617408 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Hello,@zcline those links worked perfectly, thank you. and thanks again for what you have been doing with this. I play a lot of Yugioh Legacy of the Duelist, which while extremely playable also requires patience. Especially when you get to pendulum and link monsters but is very much worth the effort. I'm more than happy to answer any questions anybody has about that as well as this is a topic regarding tcgs. @caparica I cannot thank you enough for all that. I'll be refering to it often while learning the game. Do any of you have any decks which you would recommend for beginners? also another question if I may. What are your favourite ways of browsing card information through database sites? I ask because going back to yugioh again, there are two which I use depending on the situation. One if I want to look at what a particular card set contains, and another if I want to quickly look at info on the fly while also giving me deck ideas to try out. Hope this made sense. I love that there also seemingly is a mode which lets you unlock and open packs as well. that sounds super fun to try. It can be a bit overwhelming having all cards available at once and opening packs can be addicting when it doesn't cost money. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617402/#p617402 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vcaparica via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering I had a better luck by navigating the UI myself with objectnav and creating my own GoldenCursor marks than using the pre-made one, not because mine is better or worse but because this way I got to familiarize with everything that's onscreen. I would love to write a guide, but time is scarse and so I'll just drop some tips I learned in the past months:1. The only things you really need changed in the forge.preferences file areUI_SR_OPTIMIZE=trueUI_ENABLE_MUSIC=false (you can leave this out if the music doesn't bother you)UI_SHOW_CARD_OVERLAYS=trueWith this and Java Runtimes and Java Access Bridge enabled, you should be able to navigate the UI with NVDA's ObjectNav.2- You navigate to an object, then press your shortcut to move mouse cursor to focus (mine is Caps+Shift+m, it deppends on what keyboard layout you are using in NVDA), then you press the Golden Cursor shortcut to add a bookmark. Put a name in it, think of different names beginning with different letters to facilitate use). Now with Golden Cursor you can move the mouse to this point and press your NVDA shortcut to do a left click (mine is Caps+[). You should do this to every single place on screen that's relevant, and there are a lot.3- When you first launch Forge, main screen will be of Constructed game mode. I won't get into different game modes in this post, but Constructed is the most popular anyway. Before we get to the important places, let's take a look in the menu bar and game modes bar.3.5- Many things can be navigated with tab and alt+tab, but most of them need ObjectNav, so unless I state otherwise, whenever I say "navigate to" I mean with ObjectNav.4- Navigate all the way to the left and you will find the menu bar. Interact with it (in my keyboard layout, where caps+shift+arrows navigate, I do this with caps+shift+down), and you will find the options "Home", "Deck Editor", and others. Bookmark all that you think is necessary, but specially the Deck Editor option. You can also bookmark the Concede option, but it does have a very simple keyboard shortcut anyhow.5- Going right from the menu bar, you will go through the many game mode options. Forge is a very cool application with a lot of different features. The first, Constructed, Booster Draft and Sealed, are the most popular. We will start with Constructed, which is the first mode when you first launch Forge.6- In the Constructed mode screen, you will need to navigate around and find and bookmark some stuff. First, find the fields name and deck for the first player, and be sure it is set to Human, not AI. Do the same for the second player, although you don't need to bookmark the second player's name field, for the game can generate a random one every time. So, bookmark with Golden Cursor the following objects:- First player's deck- Second player's deck- Preconstructed Decks, which is the list of pre-constructed decks that come with Forge7- Left from the preconstructed decks list you will find a drop-down menu. If you change it, it will give you different deck listing options. To use the decks you will create on deck editor, choose Custom User Decks. Right from the decks list you will find checkboxes to view the deck, call a random deck, play in singleton mode, and the button to Start Game. So, every time you go to your deck's bookmark, click it, then go to the deck list, click it, choose your deck, go to your opponent's deck bookmark, click it, go to the deck list, choose his/her deck, then go to Start Game.8- In deck list, in cards list, in almost every list, you will find, left from the list, viewing options. Always click the List Mode, for Image Mode is not accessible. Navigate in lists with arrows, pageup, pagedown, home and end.9- Deck Editor is quite self-explanatory. In any list of cards, including the enormous Catalogue, you can press Control+F to find cards. Find cards will search your text in card's name, type and text. Pressing space in the Catalogue sends a copy of the card to the deck, and pressing it on the deck takes it away. By moving mouse cursor to a card in a list you can right-click and get additional options. Left from the deck card listing you will find a drop-down menu, where you can switch from main deck to sideboard. Navigate around and get familiarized with the many many filtering options that both deck list and catalogue list have. Decks you construct and save will be, in Constructed Mode screen, on the Custom User Decks.10- When in a game, the most important places to find and bookmark for easy access are:Your HandYour FieldOpponent's FieldYour Life (which is just next to your Avatar)Opponent's Life (likewise besides his/her avatar)Stack/Combat/Log (explained below)Your zones (Hand, Library, Graveyard, Exile, etc)11- Stack, Combat and Log options. What really matters here is: 11.1- When you click the Log, the UI will show a series of text fields, one after another starting right from the Log button,
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vcaparica via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering As far as I went, to play with the new Kaldheim set cards you need to run a daily snapshot. I tried to download the latest assets but they won't load on the latest stable release. The latest snapshots are a doozie, because you can download today a version that has this or that card scripted wrong (the other day I cast an Elven Warchief and it went on and on creating infinite Elf tokens), and when this happens you need to wait a couple days and try to download the newest daily snapshot (now, for example, this Elven Warchief bug is already fixed). This said, the daily snapshots carry on all rzkline's accessibility improvements, and are quite stable. You can download them at https://downloads.cardforge.org/dailysnapshotsit is the GUI Desktop file, with tar.bz2 extension. The daily snapshots also add some inconvenient rollbar buttons to the navigation, but aside from that they work just like the stable version. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617366/#p617366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-20
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Aparently I don't have enough space on my drive for Java. Dammit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617144/#p617144 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-20
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Dan_C,Let me double check the links in the original post. The golden cursor file is not as necessary as the preferences file, because you can fairly easily re-create it and customize something which will work better anyway.The latest download is found from this link. This is a stable release and has my accessibility work, such as it is. The preferences file is downloadable from here. This should be copied into the Forge folder in the Windows appdata folder, or the mac equivalent.Finally, the Golden Cursor file is here on my Dropbox. I don't promise it will work for people who aren't running 1920x1080 screen resolutions, and I really recommend just creating one which will work for yourself.Hope this helps. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617084/#p617084 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Hi,So I've started playing around with it seriously, and I'm wondering if the version you've linked to is the latest version? Also trying to download the golden cursor file doesn't appear to work. I just get sent to a live chat window or something similar.Would love to get the hang of this. have wanted to play magic for years. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617075/#p617075 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zkline via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering , Forge is actually usable on a mac, almost as much as Windows. It's a Java program, and you can pretty much use it on any platform. VOiceOver works fairly well with it, back when I was messing with it more regularly I did all my development on a mac. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617051/#p617051 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-20
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Forge would probably be easier if I didn't run all windows games in a VM, and if my macbook had a numpad. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617046/#p617046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-20
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Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering Forge would probably be easier, but I run all windows games in a VM, and my macbook doesn't have a numpad. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/617046/#p617046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zkline via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering I unfortunately know of no really workable alternatives. Magic Online is a mess, even by my standards, and those are, as some might know, pretty weird. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616985/#p616985 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering
2021-02-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vcaparica via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Alternative to Forge for Magic: the Gathering None that I know of. Currently I am trying to mobilize as many sighted and visually impaired people as I can to write to Wizards of the Coast and ask for accessibility for screen readers in MtG Arena. Maybe it never happens, maybe it takes five years like netflix's audiodescription did, but we gotta start by trying. Until then, I'm dealing with Forge, it's not easy to use but it's playable. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/616981/#p616981 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
