Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! meh i dout they've replaced all those sounds already, they probibly just took them out URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622365/#p622365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Link's back up and working on the site. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622360/#p622360 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! JayJay could i have one as well. my discord name is my signicher, and still waiting on 3byw lol. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622353/#p622353 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Yeah.If you'd like the zip, I'm sure someone has it. I actually got mine from JayJay... But I don't think tunmi would want people giving it out, especially right now in the situation he's in.However, he's removing the sounds today from the sounds.dat and updating the code to reflect that change I guess, so by the time I get home it may be up on the site again.That'll be probably around 4:30 PM Central US time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622233/#p622233 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! No, its up, howeveer tunmi removed it from his site. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622212/#p622212 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! But why I can't download new version of this game? It looks, that server is really down. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622209/#p622209 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : blindLightning via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! the sever isn't down, no URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622173/#p622173 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! So is the game server down? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622130/#p622130 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! tunmi removed the link until the sounds are replaced. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622079/#p622079 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! read the previews posts from 119 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622073/#p622073 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Hello. Please does someone know what happened with this game? I can't update it, and the link does not work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/622063/#p622063 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @150, I understand that it's not on the forum any more, but it does still exist URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621909/#p621909 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! yeah i no, i saw that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621908/#p621908 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! oh, i discorded the titan of war person URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621904/#p621904 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! just made it my signicher URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621902/#p621902 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Erm, can you give it to me? I don't have access to pm's for some reason URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621895/#p621895 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! discord URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621894/#p621894 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Titan of war, do you have discord/skype or something? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621892/#p621892 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! I really want it, sense i havent bin able to play sense the update. But i have no idea if it's aloud to share links on any topic or PM to download it so, sadface. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621883/#p621883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! i really want it, sense i haventy bin able to play, but i don't I really want it again, i havent bin able to plays ense tghe new update, but i don't no if it's still aloud to share links to download it so.think it's aloud to shhare links to 3byw so, sadface. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621883/#p621883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Just like to remind y'all 3dyw isn't even on the forum anymore URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621882/#p621882 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @PhantomCreations, you might want to look into 3DYW. A lot of the sounds that are in SBYW are in that game as well URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621880/#p621880 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @StarFire: Credit to you for the admission, though it might be better to edit your post in the future. It's only a minor inconvenience in this case, but as you said the post count being out of line might have confused some people. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621552/#p621552 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Chiming in to say just one thing.You might notice the number of posts going here and there, I deleted one of my posts, which served no purpose at all, and I would not like to contribute much in drama topics. Since that post was not replied to, I deleted that. I could have remain silent and not said anything, but I don't care about my post count. This was probably a stupid step, but I still did it.Bye. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621547/#p621547 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Good evening folks.WE would like to report that there is an initial draft of what will soon become case law regarding the handling of asset theft. None of this is being enforced just yet as we are waiting on approval from an additional admin, but it's safe to assume that this is how things are going to be going forward.read them here URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621550/#p621550 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Look at the behavior displayed here. Is this a person who wants to turn around? No. It's someone who got pushed into doing something they didn't want to do, but knew they had to or face the consequences. He wasn't apologetic, and he tried to craft a narrative putting him as the victim and Phantom Crafting as the horrible aggressors.He's done this before, and what makes y'all think he won't do it again. Man, I really wish the users of this forum would start holding developers accountable for their actions. I know the staff do, but you are the ones playing the games too. Can we ever get to a point where the actual players are like, "You know what, I'm good. I'd rather not associate myself with a game whose developers act this way." URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621537/#p621537 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Point 1 is exactly what myself and vulcan have been saying. Instead of asuming its empty words, ask for evidence. Asuming made a man shit his pants, after all URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621522/#p621522 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! I'd like to raise a few points, since I've gotten here a bit late in the process. Things kind of blew up over the last couple of days.1. Tunmi, making a poll was pointless. It is not up to this community's popular vote as to whether or not you obey the law, and you were foolish to believe that a favourable vote represents anything except a trapdoor for you to dive through. And you did it. Your reputation has taken a pounding, and you deserve every bit of it.Pro tip for next time: when someone comes to you and says that you're using stolen assets, ask them to prove it. Make clear that you will remove stolen assets if you have proof that they were used illegally. Accidents happen, laziness happens. I don't want to normalize either one, but sure. Signal that you're willing to correct your mistake, and then don't move the goal-posts. Do not turn it into a popular vote. Do not invent justifications. Do not try and gaslight those who are, in their way, actually trying to help you. You behaved very badly here, and there is zero excuse.2. PhantomCreations: Thank you for both the report and for your thoroughness. I'd like to point out one thing, however. Your responsibility begins and ends with ensuring that your property is not misused. If a commitment has been achieved, there is no reason to try and encourage others to further boycott Tunmi's projects. Let me put this another way. DanGero and perhaps others are trying to help Tunmi fix the problem he caused. You may see this as problematic, and I get that. However, your only real concern is in making sure your own assets aren't misused anymore. If Tunmi had taken this step much earlier in the process, we basically wouldn't even be here. Acting the way you did in your more recent post just makes it look like you've got a bit of a grudge. And look, I get it. You're upset because you had your assets misused. That is not okay under any circumstances. But revenge is petty, and it taints your optics a little. Maybe avoid that going forward. Redress for harm is reasonable. Punishment is not your prerogative, unless of course you want to try and get the law involved. In that instance, however, no one here is obligated to help you do so.3. We promised you case law regarding copyrighted assets. We did this months ago. We've had a lot happening on the team, and this case law has not been finalized. This is an explanation, not an excuse. Situations like this bring the problem into far sharper focus, and it's clear that we need to make this priority #1 as soon as we can. It's one thing to rip off a company who is so huge they don't care, or who has no idea they're even being hurt; it's still not okay, but it's in an entirely different ballpark from ripping off a much smaller dev who can actually be impacted by this. As such, I'm issuing an apology on behalf of the entire staff team for not getting to this sooner. I cannot set an exact timeline for the assets reform that is so clearly needed, but it is coming, and this is an indication that we must prioritize it. I hope that we have not damaged the public trust too greatly by thus far being unable to display the changes we promised. We will do better. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621521/#p621521 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Alright guys, here's what's up. I think I'm going to make a separate topic for the asset replacement project to prevent any further derailment of this one. It's probably going to be hard to talk about the game given the circumstances, but this deserves a separate topic in my opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621488/#p621488 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Yup, just saw the download was removed.First step in the right direction. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621486/#p621486 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Tunmi has just taken down GC from his site until we can replace all the lifted assets. I know everyone is mad and that's perfectly understandable; I was too at first. I'm hoping that by replacing these sounds we can quell some of the tension here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621485/#p621485 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Vulcan, I agree. If we're going to prosecute Tunmi for using stolen assets, we need to prosecute every audio game developer under the same jurisdiction. This isn't going to pose an issue for those who would be effected by this rule, because we've got tons of people like myself who wouldn't hesitate to replace those stolen assets with new ones. There's no excuse for this anymore. If we're gonna do this, we need to go all the way. At first I was apposed to removing games like Crazy Party from the DB, but if the developers won't change their sounds and this is what needs to be done, then this is what needs to be done. If this rule is enforced, it will stop this sort of thing from happening again, and if we all work together to fix the games that have lifted assets then the problem would be solved. There's limitations to this of course, we can't exactly talk to Jim Kitchen and have him fix his games, but something has to be done before we run into a bigger issue. I'm not sure if this is a discussion that should be had in this topic though. What do you guys say we make a new topic to talk about this? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621478/#p621478 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! If the sounds were stolen from my works, I would have done the same as Phantom Creations did, and I am glad they did, but lets see others do the same on here as well. Purchasing a single licence for sound libs does not mean you can pass the content around, or collect it in a huge directory to pass around. Both are wrong, and we as a community need to stop using sounds that were passed around the groups with-in the community. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621476/#p621476 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Oh damn, finally I shall throw in my opinions on this game. I would first like to say that I believe Tunmi has found his nitch. No killing, no weapons, just build, build, and for the hell of it, build some more. I like this game rather a lot. It is no SBYW but it has quite a lot to offer with building right from the start. Then again SBYW has been around for much longer and has a few more devs on the team. At first I was not a big fan of the coin charging to build thing, but then again what are you gonna do with all your coins that you get on the challenges. It is a bit to chatty, but that can be turned off, and so can the on line and off line sounds. Wich is good because you can build in piece. You are still able to see what people are saying in the chat buffer, so muting them will not have you miss anything if you are in to that stuff. And now on to the big issue that has taken over this topic; the stolen sounds. I was saddened to see many sounds from other games on here, and many from libs that were just given to him by people who purchased a single user licence, or by people who got the libs who purchased said licence. I am glad that he is replacing the stolen content and that he is slowly coming around. Its about time we see another builder game that offers the option to build in 3d. My playing this game does not make me a supporter of "Tunmi's behavior, and his willfulness to disregard his own mistakes." Had to borrow from post num 133 because it was worded pretty well. If people choose to help in helping tunmi make things right that is up to them. They like the game, so they want to do what they can to help it stick around. Before I forget, why aren't we going after all the other devs who released other projects containing sounds that obviously were swiped from cracked games, and the works of others? It is rather intresting that tunmi's game has to be dragged through the shit hole and not everyone elses works that contain stolen shit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621472/#p621472 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! If everyone ditches him right now, when he gets older and becomes a fully responsible adult and realizes the things he's done, it'll be too late. Nobody would ever accept him in communities anymore, and the things he's done would be held over his head for the rest of his life. I don't want to see that happen to him, because it's almost happened to me. If I knew how to program at a young age, it definitely would have happened to me, and nobody would ever want to be involved with me for as long as I live. I want to help him learn and come out of this before he does something that would screw him over indefinitely. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621471/#p621471 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @134 the reason he accepted your help is probably phantom creations would have reported him to the hosting provider he’s using if he didn’t. He doesn’t care at all. Also he being a kid doesn’t mean everyone should fix his mistakes. Sorry but i really do agree with @133, you shouldn’t help someone like that URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621465/#p621465 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @134 the reason he accepted your help is probably phantom creations would have reported him to the hosting provider he’s using if he didn’t. He doesn’t care at all. Also he being a kid doesn’t mean everyone should fix his mistakes. Sorry but i really do agree with@133, you shouldn’t help someone like that URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621465/#p621465 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! I may not have to do this, but I want to. I don't put up with this mentality of stealing sounds either, that's why I'm trying to help replace them so we can get past this. Everyone deserves a second chance at redemption, even Tunmi. Remember guys, he's still a kid. He doesn't think through his implications like the rest of us do. Trust me, I know. I used to be a kid myself, and so have you all. When I was a kid, I used to crack games and steal sounds and do everything else that Tunmi is doing, but probably even worse. Since then, I've grown up and now I understand it's not right. All I ask is that you guys give him another chance. As of now, he has accepted my help to replace the sounds. I believe if he truly didn't care, he never would have accepted my help in the first place. Let's just see how this pans out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621463/#p621463 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PhantomCreations via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Hello again,Lauren again on behalf of phantom creations.So this post is going to appear to contradict our previous post, allow us to explain.@Dan_Gero, we politely request you not involve yourself with attempting to mend this offense, created by not yourself.Tunmi has demonstrated that he has no problems ripping off people's work. He has demonstrated to not just phantom himself, but to the entire community, that this is acceptable and it carries no weight to anyone, involved or otherwise.In essence, you are effectively wasting your time. Tunmi has shown himself to be a repeat offender on this front.This goes to anyone else considering helping to replace the sounds for free. Tunmi was the person responsible for including these sounds, none of you should have to carry the blame or the weight of involving yourself with this effort.In effect, Tunmi had no problems starting this, Tunmi should be the one to get himself out of this situation.That being said, we have no rights or responsibilities to identify anyone helping him past present or future, and don't plan to. All we're saying is, please find yourselves something else to pass the time with. If your a sound designer, there are countless other places that need sound designers.There are countless locations both here on this forum and off forum to get free sounds and request assistance from sound designers. Tunmi or anyone on behalf of his development team could have very easily posted there and gotten assistance having sounds designed for golden crayon or any future game.As it is now, Tunmi is looking for any last ditch effort to not have to comply with the voice of the community.Tunmi, if your reading this, we would have honestly left you alone if you had just removed stolen assets. There wouldn't be this post to read, and even our previous posts and emails wouldn't have had to have been written.As to everyone else, please consider deleting the game. Any continued support of Tunmi and his development team signifies that one is perfectly fine with Tunmi's behavior, and his willfulness to disregard his own mistakes.We honestly hope to not have to write on this topic any more.Kindest,The Phantom Creations Team URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621457/#p621457 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PhantomCreations via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Hello again,Lauren again on behalf of phantom creations.So this post is going to appear to contradict our previous post, allow us to explain.@Dan_Gero, we politely request you not involve yourself with attempting to mend this offense, created by not yourself.Tunmi has demonstrated that he has no problems ripping off people's work. He has demonstrated to not just phantom himself, but to the entire community, that this is acceptable and it carries no weight to anyone, involved or otherwise.In essence, you are effectively wasting your time. Tunmi has shown himself to be a repeat offender on this front.This goes to anyone else considering helping to replace the sounds for free. Tunmi was the person responsible for including these sounds, none of you should have to carry the blame or the weight of involving yourself with this effort.In effect, Tunmi had no problems starting this, Tunmi should be the one to get himself out of this situation.That being said, we have no rights or responsibilities to identify anyone helping him past present or future, and don't plan to. All we're saying is, please find yourselves something else to pass the time with. If your a sound designer, there are countless other places that need sound designers.There are countless locations both here on this forum and off forum to get free sounds and request assistance from sound designers. Tunmi or anyone on behalf of his development team could have very easily posted there and gotten assistance having sounds designed for golden crayon or any future game.As it is now, Tunmi is looking for any last ditch effort to not have to comply with the voice of the community.Tunmi, if your reading this, we would have honestly left you alone if you had just removed stolen assets. There wouldn't be this post to read and even our previous posts and emails wouldn't have happened.Hello again,Lauren again on behalf of phantom creations.So this post is going to appear to contradict our previous post, allow us to explain.@Dan_Gero, we politely request you not involve yourself with attempting to mend this offense, created by not yourself.Tunmi has demonstrated that he has no problems ripping off people's work. He has demonstrated to not just phantom himself, but to the entire community, that this is acceptable and it carries no weight to anyone, involved or otherwise.In essence, you are effectively wasting your time. Tunmi has shown himself to be a repeat offender on this front.This goes to anyone else considering helping to replace the sounds for free. Tunmi was the person responsible for including these sounds, none of you should have to carry the blame or the weight of involving yourself with this effort.In effect, Tunmi had no problems starting this, Tunmi should be the one to get himself out of this situation.That being said, we have no rights or responsibilities to identify anyone helping him past present or future, and don't plan to. All we're saying is, please find yourselves something else to pass the time with. If your a sound designer, there are countless other places that need sound designers.There are countless locations both here on this forum and off forum to get free sounds and request assistance from sound designers. Tunmi or anyone on behalf of his development team could have very easily posted there and gotten assistance having sounds designed for golden crayon or any future game.As it is now, Tunmi is looking for any last ditch effort to not have to comply with the voice of the community.Tunmi, if your reading this, we would have honestly left you alone if you had just removed stolen assets. There wouldn't be this post to read, and even our previous posts and emails wouldn't have had to have been written.As to everyone else, please consider deleting the game. Any continued support of Tunmi and his development team signifies that one is perfectly fine with Tunmi's behavior, and his willfulness to disregard his own mistakes.We honestly hope to not have to write on this topic any more.Kindest,The Phantom Creations Team URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621457/#p621457 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! well he is the one decided to screw up himselfas a sound designer myself, i consider that behavior unacceptable+1 to 119 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621444/#p621444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! well he is the one decided to screw up himself URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621444/#p621444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @129You should also consider that others are recording sounds for the game as well. I recorded a nice little door sound last night for it.If the game goes down for a bit, and we just all build up sounds we can get this going even better than before, and this time without stolen assets.Although, it still won't leave Tunmi looking too well, after this whole situation.For now, the best thing we can do, in my opinion at least, is to as a group do our best. Tunmi specifically, the lesson learned here... And I assume this really isn't over yet... But think before you act, and think about how your actions will effect your future.Act like crap? That's what your future holds. Help people, do what's right? Eventually it'll come full circle and you'll benefit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621441/#p621441 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! I have sent you an e-mail. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621436/#p621436 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Hold on guys, let's not act to hastily here. I agree; I think Golden Crayon should go down until the stolen assets are removed, but let's not report him to his domain provider just yet. I started a project yesterday to replace the stolen sounds myself for no charge to Tunmi. If I can do this, I believe the game should stay up. I quite like the concept myself. There's not a lot of games like this in the audio games community, and I wouldn't want to see it get removed personally. Give me about 2-3 months, and I'll get it done.Tunmi, considering the situation at hand, you don't have a lot of options here. I will get a list of the sounds so that people won't have to alter their maps. I'm sorry to say man, but you have no excuses left. You can deny the offer for me to replace the sounds for you, but I'd strongly advise against it, because the way things are going now, it won't be long before action is taken and you'll have to take the entire game down. I don't want that, and I know you definitely don't want that, so let's see what can be done here. My email is garrettsworld2000 (at) gmail (dot) com if you wish to get in touch with me about it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621433/#p621433 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @Jayjay: I know think I know what you were referring to.When I said this, I meant that people NOT critizising other games for more or less the same thing was bad, I did NOT defend Tunmi's actions in any way.Edit: @127: Yeah, that's what I meant. As I said, I think Jayjay has just misunderstood me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621429/#p621429 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-09
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @Jayjay: I know think I know what you were referring to.When I said this, I meant that people NOT critizising other games for more or less the same thing was bad, I did NOT defend Tunmi's actions in any way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621429/#p621429 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! It's true that action should've been taken on other projects as well. Maybe after this point it will be. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621428/#p621428 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @119, Good oneBut, Amused, Rather than tunmi going and replacing all of his stuff, He's just arguing about how does those sounds existed on other games and that no one has done anything etc etc and gives me the disappointment number 6 from since the game got released. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621427/#p621427 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Well tunmi. There's your proof.If you didn't believe they were going to do anything, and if you didn't believe the sounds were stolen, and etcetera etcetera, you should absolutely believe them now.I know this decision would be one that would suck for you to make. But I think GC needs to take a break and rid itself of stolen material before it can come back.And when it comes back, I don't think it'll be allowed over here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621422/#p621422 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! good job @119 something like this should of happend a long time ago to try and teach a lesson to those who think using stolen assets is not a big deal. That is why I don't play CP or other games like that. this leaves me left to play games on my phone and QC, RSG, and games on Steam as well as Epic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621421/#p621421 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! You deserve this tuna.Edit, i meant tunmi, not tuna. Stupid autocorrect. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621420/#p621420 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Well tunmi. There's your proof.If you didn't believe they were going to do anything, and if you didn't believe the sounds were stolen, and etcetera etcetera, you should absolutely believe them now.I know this decision would be one that would suck for you to make. But I think GC needs to take a break and rid itself of stolen material before it can come back. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621422/#p621422 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! You deserve this tuna. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621420/#p621420 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @Phantomcreations: Thumbs up from me. It's great that something is being done against this.@JayJay: I honestly still think that there was a misunderstanding here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621419/#p621419 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! A wel deserved one. Thumbs up at fantom creation.Edit. Also, Sorry about lying that I won't said anything anymore. I'd just like to express happyness that something fair has finally been done. And I think thats a must thing to exprest/say. Don't take that rite from me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621418/#p621418 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! A wel deserved one. Thumbs up at fantom creation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621418/#p621418 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @119 thank you a lot, fineily something effectiv is done with stolen sounds URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621417/#p621417 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PhantomCreations via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Hello everyone,This is Lauren on behalf of the Phantom Creations team.Tunmi has already been notified of our decision to continue onward with further action. As such, we feel it is vital we lay out our proof of the fact Tunmi13 productions has stolen assets.1. If you compare hashes on both sets of files, one will receive multitudes of matching hashes on both sets of files. Not all of them will match our sounds, however, as there are other stolen assets not just from us.2. The easiest method of confirming in fact, he has stolen assets, is to line up the originals against the stolen assets in an audio editor. The volumes should not double as they do when one completes this task, if they are original.3. Phantom has spent many years around these sounds, as such a case of familiarity comes into play here. It doesn't take phantom to realize these sounds come from Scrolling Battles your world.Tunmi's failure to comply with our request has resulted in collecting these details and we will be forwarding them to the administrators of the forum.In addition, we will also be contacting the hosting provider for Tunmi 13 productions. This is not an action we were wanting to proceed with, however he did explicitly notify us that these sounds would be removed once the list of sounds reached his inbox.All together with hash matching and knowledge of what to look for, it took both me and Phantom all of 20 minutes to locate 128 (one hundred and twenty-eight) assets that Tunmi was not authorized to use in any project without permission.A further note, we were never notified by Tunmi13 productions of his decision to keep the assets.Allow this to be a lesson for those of you considering following in Tunmi's footsteps. We are small pocket artists, not multi-million dollar corporations. Lifting our sounds will get you this kind of reaction.Kind regards,Lauren, The Phantom Creations Team. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621415/#p621415 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : PhantomCreations via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Hello everyone,This is Lauren on behalf of the Phantom Creations team.Tunmi has already been notified of our decision to continue onward with further action. As such, we feel it is vital we lay out our proof of the fact Tunmi13 productions has stolen assets.1. If you compare hashes on both sets of files, one will receive multitudes of matching hashes on both sets of files. Not all of them will match our sounds, however, as there are other stolen assets not just from us.2. The easiest method of confirming in fact, he has stolen assets, is to line up the originals against the stolen assets in an audio editor. The volumes should not double as they do when one completes this task, if they are original.3. Phantom has spent many years around these sounds, as such a case of familiarity comes into play here. It doesn't take phantom to realize these sounds come from Scrolling Battles your world.Tunmi's failure to comply with our request has resulted in collecting these details and we will be forwarding them to the administrators of the forum.In addition, we will also be contacting the hosting provider for Tunmi 13 productions. This is not an action we were wanting to proceed with, however he did explicitly notify us that these sounds would be removed once the list of sounds reached his inbox.All together with hash matching and knowledge of what to look for, it took both me and Phantom all of 20 minutes to locate 128 (one hundred and twenty-eight) assets that Tunmi was not authorized to use in any project without permission.Allow this to be a lesson for those of you considering following in Tunmi's footsteps. We are small pocket artists, not multi-million dollar corporations. Lifting our sounds will get you this kind of reaction.Kind regards,Lauren, The Phantom Creations Team. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621415/#p621415 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @116: The delete button (at least for me) still exists. I think you mean topics. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621405/#p621405 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! I know that, but the @numbers in these posts are mine too, so there seems to be something strange going on here.In my posts, I wouldn't be referring to that very same post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621404/#p621404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-09
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! At Julian one can't delete his posts anymore.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621403/#p621403 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Nope, i quoted your own posts, sir. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621402/#p621402 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-09
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @Jayjay: I checked my posts you cited. Two odd things:1: The post you say is @83: The number of this post is 83.2. The post you say is @75: Again, the number of this post is 75, while I am sure it used to be 76.3. The post you say is @73: This is, for a change, not my own post, but I am sure that 73 was a different post when I answered.So, it looks like someone deleted several of his posts.So, please do your research before accusing people of hypocrisy. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621400/#p621400 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @83: If that's true, it's just double standards once again. It's pissing me off.@73: That would still be wrong in so many ways.@75: Fully agreed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621397/#p621397 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-09
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @109: Where? I have a feeling I am not the person you think I am. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621391/#p621391 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! also about everyone who voted to not remove the sounds, they are just kids which for all they cair some of there maps will get fuckt up, they are brainwoshed by you acting that stolen sounds are 100%ok, they do not cair about everything else URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621390/#p621390 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Heh. Thanks for the compliment. And I also Successfully completed the purpose of that post. I win! Ok, Seriously. I'm done. I won't said things that doesn't need to be said anymore. I'll seeya all later in an actual game discussion topic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621389/#p621389 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @108, I literally spent all of Sunday arguing with you about this issue and today you suddenly switch to the other side of the fence? Hippocracy. @Wilson, I think its more a matter of, >.>>I'm too lazy to look for goodsounds, available.OrI don't want to risk loosing the dickwar that is having the most sounds URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621388/#p621388 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2021-03-09
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @Jayjay: What do you mean? I don't see hypocrisy in that post. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621386/#p621386 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @Wilson: That's a really good assumption. I would not do that though. You're not me, so you can't decode me like that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621385/#p621385 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! You make a poll about should the sounds be remove or not, but then you said: Tunmi wrote:I think this is the best move, personally for the game and for me.Honestly. Even if the remove side gets that 22 and the don't remove side gets 20, I'm sure you will say and do the following.Aw, the side that wanted the sounds to be removed won. Hmm. Why Should I listen to them. If I remove the sounds, I have to do a bunch of renaming and reuploading and shits. Ah To hel with it, The sounds are staying. I just put up a message of the day and tel them personally its the best move for the game. No maps need to be edited, And The only Reputation that gets ruined its mine. Yeah, Perfect. Its my game, They don't tel me what to do. Besides its only diffrent by 2 numbers.And eventually we're gonna end up the same way we are now.What. Your feeling mad because I said something, Don't worry about it, Its just me rummbling without meenings. Isn't your the one that keap saying if you want me to treet you nicely, treet me nicely as wel or something around those lines. Too bad it goes both ways ehh, This is how you treet us and this is how we treet you. Fair and square.My apology if I'm going a bit over the top on this one. Two rongs don't make a right. I get it. But if I'm being honest, Sometimes Throing things back at them might be the only way. If this is incorrect, Please tel me why. I always like to learn from another perspective/point of view, as I don't have much at this moment. Now Bye Bye. I dought I need to say anything at this point. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621383/#p621383 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Meatbag is right, You just want to remove the sounds that their owners/who claim that they are their owners told you to remove just because you are scaird, But you do know that 90% of your sounds, Are stolen, From all libraries, Gamemaster pro, Ns studios, Whatever else, Are all paid, And you didn't buy them so you are not allowed to use them, That's the fact, Saying i didn't know or it's questionable or whatever else is just a way to run away, And your repetition is already fucked after this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621380/#p621380 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! look, you and me and most here fully know that they are stolen and you have not got them in a legal way, or if you got them in what you may clame a legal way i'm sure you got them with out a license because they are stolen, and no license means you have no rights to use them, acording to what i've learned from githubbut no, we all including you know that they are stolen, whether whoever clamed they have made them or not they are stil stolen and we know thatthis forum's respect for devilopers and sound designers is pritty much 0%, because the URL is not removed yet URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621374/#p621374 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @102You still didn't answer my questions from post 97 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621364/#p621364 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! There is no exact proof though that shows that the sounds they claim belong to them actually belongs to them. This requires some investigation so I will be contacting them to see if there can be some proof behind all this, especially since lots of what I have been receiving has been plain words with no proof behind all of it. The vote didn't tie. 22 people said yes that I should keep the sounds, and 20 said no, that I should just replace them. I had already started replacing the sounds before I had realized the votes had reached that point, until I was forced to make up my mind about the whole thing. They only thing they told me would happen is the admins would be contacted to remove the topic and the link from the AudioGames.net forum. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621362/#p621362 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @99 the hypocracy in that post is more disgusting than you claim Tunmi's actions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621360/#p621360 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Agreed with this part of post 99 where it said in what world was that the best decision.How does this help anything? Doesn't it just cause more problems and ruin what was left of your reputation?If ROTU's lag wasn't bad enough, and if some of the things done on BS / BTS weren't bad enough, now this?@98Even more reason to not use the sounds. Does he not get that there's other people who would've helped him out? He's not the victim here.The poor people who made those sounds are.Tunmi, it's kind of like how you hate clones. If someone offered to host, and asked if you would help code, a TK game, you'd say no, right?Shouldn't it be the same way with these sounds? I mean, you weren't given the license to use them. And because you weren't given the license to use them, you shouldn't use them.What happens if you use copyrighted material in your YouTube videos? They get taken down and you get a copyright strike!Here, there's this idea that we can use stolen stuff as much as we want as long as we're not caught.In your case you did it accidentally. After realizing that you used stolen sounds, you should've emailed the people back and said,"Hi,I'm very sorry and I did not realize these sounds were stolen. I'd be happy to remove them.However, I don't know which sounds are yours and which aren't. If I gave you the game sounds folder, would you be willing to delete the stolen assets?Thanks,Tunmi"However, after doing this, you were handed a list of the sounds that needed to be removed.I assume you started to remove the sounds, and after a while you just decided, frick this. It's annoying. So you put up a vote that asked if you should keep the stolen sounds or remove them.The vote tied.Long story short, you were told that you had stolen sounds, apologized, went back on your word, kept the sounds, and ruined your reputation in the process.Allow me to ask...How does that make you look?What kind of person does that make you look like to everyone that hears about this and disagrees with you? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621355/#p621355 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! TRIGGER WARNING: This post turns slightly ranty in the end. I hope I don't get a warning for this.@97: Yeah, these logs would be very intersting.Regarding Tunmi's decision, it's just an ignorant and selfish move.@Tunmi: For you, it's all about you and your game, and you don't give a fuck about others. Not about fellow coders (who possibly put in their spare time to help make the best game possible), as was said earlier in this topic. And not about sound designers, without whom your games wouldn't be worth a second of anybody's fucking time. What I'm trying to say is, as a dev, you should fucking appreciate these people and their work. But instead, you either stab them in the back or steal their work.I already found your actions questionable to say the least, but now, they really disgust me.You could have at least gone to the original creators of the sounds, had the balls to apologize and reach some sort of agreement with them.But after that Message Of The Day/decision, you ruined it all. By the way, in which fucking world was this the best move for you and the game? And how is there no proof that the sounds are stolen?You finally ruined your reputation on this forum (what was left of it) and you hopefully ruined your playerbase.Honestly, I agree with Grannycheesewheel here. I would even go so far as to say that I hope you're banned for this. Because people like you just put shame to this community. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621346/#p621346 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Actually, its 21/21, because lightning casted the wrong vote and it was well documented as such. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621325/#p621325 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! There's no defending Tunmi here.Stolen sounds are stolen sounds. And how are they not proven to be stolen? I'm confused on that part.He did get an email, correct? Was the email from an email address that made sense?I mean, if it was from the-sound-designer-...@hotmail.com I'd agree in that it's sketchy, but.On Saturday Morning, the 6th of March, I went on SBYW. There was one guy that seemed to be the guy who recorded the sounds that Tunmi used in his game.If he didn't record the sounds, he seemed to be at least involved deeply in the company, as some of the things he said indicated. If I had logs on this computer I'd share them for sure. They're on my home computer and I'm at school so I can't for now, but when I get back to my home computer and if conversation hasn't gone in a totally different direction I'll be sure to paste them.I'd really like it if someone were to share some inside information from this situation. I think it's time we get the whole story.Also. Tunmi, this question is mainly directed at you, and if you could answer it, and all of the other questions and statements I've made in this post, and really think out your answer first, I think it'd really make things clearer.1. What was the email address you were sent the message about stolen sounds from?2. If it was a legit email address, what makes you think that you should just use the sounds anyways without any regard for the email you were sent, or anything inside of it?3. Before you make decisions that will majorly effect your reputation, shouldn't you think them out properly first, instead of letting your anger decide for you?4. You have a lot of players in your game at the moment. 15 online at 10PM at night? That's pretty good. Now tell me, why worry about those sounds, if so many blind people have stereo mics and doors, windows, microwaves, fans, etc, to record for you? If you had 25 people that gave you 5 sounds each, that'd be 125 sounds, just like that. The game is already 500 MB. If you get rid of 100 MB of that, and add 125 sounds, where will that put you?If people like your game enough, they'll contribute to it. As the vote showed, there's 22 people that said to keep the stolen sounds, and 20 that said to get rid of them. I was one of the 20.I know, personally, that there's several adults that play your game. They, because they have money, may be able to help you afford the sound libraries that you want and need to create a game, on top of the already good amount that could be provided using player-made sounds.Some of those adults that may have been willing to pay for new sounds for you, heck, the ones that would even make new sounds for you, no longer are. Why? Because you've now used sounds that are stolen and have said you're not going to remove them.Congrats. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621322/#p621322 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Wel done on hurting the feeling of sound designers, tunmi. I really feel sorry for you guys, all the sound designers out there.I'm starting to agree with GCW here.GrannyCheeseWheel wrote:Please, from now on, let's follow Tunmi's wish and never post another one of his games on here again. They don't deserve a spot on this forum, and neither does he. As broken and dysfunctional as we are, there is still a line and he just crossed it.Number 79 might have been a misunderstanding, But this time, He really did crossed the line in my opinion.I'm not good at wording, So I end this post with this.That shining light of hope I see on you, Is gon now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621269/#p621269 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Ok, so here's some, uh, constructive, feedback.The game's wonderful. I've only seen one game like this, SBYW. And I immediately love this even more. It just feels polished, and it lets my creativity shine out much more.I'm not going to comment on the stolen sounds, as a few of my opinions have already been voiced quite a few times.Keeping that aside though, the first thing I'd like added would be a restart client option. It just helps sometimes.Also, it'd be great to have something like a friend list, where you can make private maps that only your friends can play. That'd be fun.Also, map tournaments should be a thing. In rotu, we enjoyed a lot on racetracks, and if something like that could be officially coded into the game, it'd be fun. I mean, in rotu, there was a racetrack map, but we admins had to manage the whole show. However, what I'm looking for here is that the game automatically have the race event, which would be a lot of fun, adn make admins' work much less repetitive.Overall, though, I'd rate the concept a 9 out of ten, and the execution would also get a very respectable 7.5 out of ten for me. Definitely much better than tunmi's previous attempts, and just a wonderful work of polish in general. This goes to show that BGT games don't always have to suck. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621232/#p621232 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! just lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621227/#p621227 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Message of the Day: I've made my final decision. The sounds are staying. However I will still be accepting contributions to add more sounds. As much as it will probably ruin my reputation and it will probably get my post removed from the AudioGames forum, I think this is the best move, personally for the game and for me. To those who said no, I get where you are coming from. These sounds are probably stolen. But the point is, there's no proof. There is nothing that proves these sounds are actually stolen content, just words without meaning. So I will be keeping the sounds the way they are. Thanks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621202/#p621202 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Rich_Beardsley via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @37, Actually, not all of the sounds are stollen. I know one of the people who recorded some of them.@41, No lag here URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621154/#p621154 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @87: I didn't say the message was serious, I just said that we'll have to see if it is serious or not. I couldn't be sure at the time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621032/#p621032 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! When someone asks you why we barely have any active online games to play, just tell them to read this topic for a few minutes.This topic, in which Crazy party was mentioned more times than any element or feature of the game being discussed.I hope CP is gone from here as soon as possible. It got extremely tiring to read about the same thing over and over for a year.This is anyway since a long time no longer a central place for new audiogame releases, and I totally get why this developer no longer wants his games on here. Count the number of posts talking about the actual game, and there's your answer to everything, but especially to the online gaming situation.Why would anyone want to work on an online game for months and get this type of reaction, when they could just make something fun offline everybody will enjoy.Either it's oh I was unfarely banned unban me PLS, there's lag so I'll scream about it even though 50 people before me already did it so the developer probably knows, and recently, sound X is from here while Y is from there, oh and also CP is still here just so you know.Well, I suppose it's a lot more fun writing on the forum than playing games, so have fun with that, it might be the only thing you'll have in a few years with this type of mentality.Unless, of course, mainstream gaming really catches up, and I honestly hope so, because this type of drama will safely be ignored or not tolerated if directly inside a game. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621017/#p621017 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : MatthewSmithYT via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! I'm not going to say much on the whole, "Ivan sent a message about how terrible GC is," thing, but what I will say is this.If that message was sent, Ivan is a terrible person and should be avoided. If not, the person who faked that message is just as much of a terrible person, if not worse, and should be avoided just as much.Competition is nice, but spending money to Kill a game by doing something you shouldn't is wrong.As I said, I'm not blaming anyone, because there's really not any proof, other than that message that could've obviously been faked.OK, so here ya go, my thoughts on the stolen sounds.They're stolen. Whether he realized it or not, they are. Tunmi did the right thing in removing them from GC.I can't say for sure exactly what happened, after all I only know so much. And Tunmi or anyone else who has inside info they're willing to share here please do. But from what I can see the guy who's doing the whole copyright thing is on SBYW, and while watching the chat on there I actually did see something where he said he would take action on 3DYW.He, also, from what I can tell, didn't know those stolen sounds were in there.So... From what I've seen it's not that they're doing something to Tunmi and not Hamad, it's just that he didn't know about 3DYW having those sounds. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620994/#p620994 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! BTW as I said on the game, shut the game down for 24 hours, and change the tiles to Ion your part.t doesn't have to break the maps, and it takes virtually zero effort the nearest sounding tile, or alternatively, give the playerbase 48 hours notice so they can change the tiles. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620992/#p620992 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Like I said, I'm working on removing the sounds. I removed all of them yesterday but need to re-sort some stuff.I was actually talking with Omar yesterday on SBYW and I apologized. I hadn't realized that several of those sounds were his, because I've heard them in various places and no one cared. They didn't have any tags on them to identify them, and they seemed legal because they were being used everywhere else. So I did what he told me and I simply warned the players that their maps would be affected by thsi process. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620988/#p620988 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! When you say that you are not sure of something, you're not saying that you know that they are absolutely involved in what went down. You are saying that you don't have any high regard for them being involved, or in other words, you do not believe they are involved in it. That is not backpedaling at all, it is simply saying that they don't have any involvement. I do not believe they have any, at all. In fact I know this because I was privately told so by one of their members.I am not sure if there is some incorrect translation going on here, or incorrect context. But post 80 was reflecting on the sound list, and then I switched over to a different topic about that message. I said I wasn't sure if Phantom Creations was involved. That doesn't mean they are. Did I say that? Absolutely not. Did I blame them? Absolutely not. I remained neutral on the whole thing and said I wasn't sure. I didn't say they were definitely involved. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620985/#p620985 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! : I'd just like to say anyone who read that and believed it was actually serious needs to reevaluate themselves. Firstly, if Ivan did have a hand to play in it, why would he damn himself like that? You don't think he'd be more covert about it? And you don't think Ivan would be more skilled to the point he could DDOS the server or hack it or something? And if he wanted the game gone already, why wouldn't they have went straight to the moderation team and have them remove it instead of giving him the benefit of the doubt and giving him time to remove the sounds? Now, I'm completely upset that the fact that the legal owner of the sounds came and requested he remove the sounds from a game he played and realise he's suddenly the villain, and Ivan is envious and paid people to go after the game? How ridiculous does that sound? Very, right? Or lets talk about the fact y'all are painting this as double standards when the owner has no idea 3dyw is still up/is using his sounds. How the hell do you expect someone to know their sounds are being used if nobody told them or they played the game? And that goes straight back to Crazy Party. All of you sitting here complaining about how the legal claimant of the sounds requested Tunmi remove the sounds while crazy party is allowed to stay, let me ask a few questions.1. Did you make any effort to contact Nintendo about CP using their sounds illegally?2. Did you make any effort to look within the boundary of the law to see whether or not CP would be considered illegal or not?3. Do you play CP dispite staying on the forum bitching about double standards?If your answer was No, No, yes, then congrats. You've proven yourself a complete hypocrit and have no room to talk about double standards when you yourself took zero steps to correct the situation. I heard someone in this debate say how this is the reason we don't have good audiogames. I think people with this line of arguing fails to understand that Omar the guy who made a claim to the sounds being stolen is apart of the team that brought you Scarlet Shells, which by most accounts is one of the biggest re es since manamon 2 or even AHC. The team spent hundreds out of their own pockets to purchase the sounds. Now imagine playing Scarlet Shells, then thinking, hmmm? I heard these sounds in GC already. What a rip off. Now, wouldn't that be absolutely unfair to the Scarlet Shells team to shell out so much shillings for people to think they ripped off the sounds when its the other way around? Yep, I find that very unfair as well. Or lets talk about the level of entitlemet regarding this whole sound issue. It is not the fault of Omar and his team that maps will be messed up. Tunmi used the illegal sounds, and he was called out for it. End of text. He's perfectly within his rights to request his sounds be removed. No matter how many other games you saw those sounds being used because number 1, you have no idea if he had an agreement with Hamad or whoever the fuck else regarding the sounds. Tunmi did not approach the team about it before the release. And number 2, Omar can't be everywhere at once. Oh and before I sign off, Tunmi, you need a new informant, because it seems as your current one is an absolute waste of time and only wants to push a certain agenda. Because they didn't tell you about how I came on saying Ivan paid me a hundred dollars, when just a few weeks ago they were asking donations for a new server on his game, or the fact they missed the message ivan literally sent where he said he doesn't give a fuck about GC? Hmmm? Hmmm? Well anything to push the, "Everyone is against Tunmi", narrative, right? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620986/#p620986 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! When you say that you are not sure of something, you're not saying that you know that they are absolutely involved in what went down. You are saying that you don't have any high regard for them being involved, or in other words, you do not believe they are involved in it. That is not backpedaling at all, it is simply saying that they don't have any involvement. I do not believe they have any, at all. In fact I know this because I was privately told so by one of their members. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620985/#p620985 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! Here's the thing: Stolen sounds won't prohibit me from playing a game anyways. I'm not a sound designer, so I guess it just doesn't matter as much to me. The reason I don't play this game has nothing to do with stolen sounds. So therefore, I don't actually think Crazy Party is different in that way. I play Crazy Party because I like the game and don't care about the stolen sounds. In terms of this forum, by its rules, Crazy Party should be banned yes. As I said, I'm not here to argue about this forum's rules, and not here to argue about my own morality either. Just wanted to clear this up.That all being said, completely agreed with GCW in post 80. Tunmi continues to do what I called him out for and then furiously back peddle like in post 81 and in post 51 before that.Imagine you're white, lets just say in an entirely white neighborhood, and you're away from your house and it gets broken into one night. You come back and you say, "I'm not sure if the blacks have anything to do with this, but..." Doesn't that make you a tiny bit racist? It does in my opinion. In the same way, I don't see why Ivan's message has anything to do with an entirely separate claim by phantom creations.One more thing, regarding 3DYW. This is also a game I haven't played. But I don't think it's a double standard, because phantom creations only noticed the stolen sounds in this game. He already had a connection with Tunmi from before and thus might've been keeping an eye on Tunmi's new releases. He had no such connection with the developer of 3DYW. Sound designers have no obligation to act as police and play every single new game that gets released. They should change them if the sound designers request, however. If Nintendo requested Pragma to change the sounds for CP, I think he should. But since it's Nintendo, it wouldn't be a request, and it will never happen because they are a big corporation and only 2000 people around the world have ever heard of CP. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620966/#p620966 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! @83: If that's true, it's just double standards once again. It's pissing me off. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620919/#p620919 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! um that's a bit strange. There was, and probably still is a game called 3dyw, which also contains sounds from fantom creations or whatever it's called, and no action has been taken till now, and the game is running for like nearly 1,5 years.So i'm really surprised that those sounds were found in tunmi's game after 1 day of it's release, but 3dyw contains the same sounds and it's still up. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620880/#p620880 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
2021-03-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : titan_of_war via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! so like, what does iven have anything to do with them?. and do you even no if that message was real, i'm sure you have some sort of chat logging systom so. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620879/#p620879 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game!
Re: Golden Crayon, a new building game! I did not blame Phantom Creations at all. If you read what I just posted, I said I don't believe Phantom Creations has anything to do with this. Read the post in depth.I'm not sure if this has anything to do with Phantom Creations. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/620868/#p620868 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
