Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... At 70, just out of curiosity, may you provide an example? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487444/#p487444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... One thing that I really like about the cli is, you can do things, and yes, a lot of things, that the gui can't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487442/#p487442 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @Turtlepower17: For me creating new folders shortcuts changed all too frequently, but I'm a fast-ring insier so things could be different on my build. Better still I personally saw myself going to the command line to make a new folder anyway, so it wasn't a big adjustment. In office, though, the ribbons are incredibly useful when using that search bar. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487438/#p487438 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I couldn't agree more with the last post. One other thing I'll say, though, is that the ribbon in Explorer is actually not that bad. I was resistant to adapting to it for years, since I thought relearning all the commands I had grown accustomed to for years would be far too tedious and time-consuming, and that it would take longer to accomplish those tasks in general. In reality, it really isn't that different. You do have to remap some things in your head, but I found that the vast majority of things I was doing could be accessed via the applications key anyway, and other things, like creating new folders and such, used the same keyboard shortcuts I was already utilizing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487434/#p487434 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Ok, if you can do that then clearly you can find the control pannel, which is exactly how you would have in windows 7. You can also locate winaero Tweaker from their own site. You do'nt necessarily need to modify the registry if you don't want to. You do, however, need to tweak windows10, maybe remove a thing or two that you don't need (candy crush soda sogga whatever, I'm looking at you). But Windows is still the modular OS it's always been, so you still have ultimate control over your system. Even if you're an insider.Re, switching or not: I think we can all agree it's one's choice what they wish to use, and their taskbar should not identify their status in society. However, reacting defensively, calling a simple screwup on your part a problem with windows 10, is what isn't the right thing to do. Just because you dabble in the art of programming and server management, doesn't mean it isn't ok to just straight-up ask for help without getting defensive. You do not need to know everything about the inner-workings of your computer, but you need to be willing to learn if need be, and to not act like a know-it-all and claim that it's a problem with windows 10 when we all know it isn't. There are other people in your shoes, and the last thing you want is for them to be misled and make their judgement on Windows 10 based on hearsay, which is exactly what we have with people who shy away from Android. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487418/#p487418 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @65 that's what i aimed to say. The CLI is not the main interface of windows anymore. I am using my vps with only cli and also python on my computer. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487413/#p487413 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... The question "why did we switch from the command line to the GUI" was asked. Simple answer: we didn't. Sure,its what you see on all Windows computers, but the command line is not gone. It still exists and there is a very low probability that it will ever go away. (You can also set it as your default shell in Windows too.) On Linux this is even more true: the Command Line is actually the default operating mode for Linux; the GUI is just a layer on top of the (ultimately more powerful) command line interface. So no, we never "switched" to the GUI; the CLI is still there and will always be there. The GUI is just an interface using graphics and programmatic ways of executing CLI commands. (On Windows, for example, the GUI executes no commands at all, but under the hood, either the CLI -- or the knowledge we gained when creating it as well as other interfaces for program execution -- is what runs everything. And the CLI is still the most powerful interface of an operating system because a lot more can be expressed in that interface than can be expressed in a GUI.)Simpter, please, actually go learn how to modify Windows to your liking. There are tools like Winero Tweaker, DNSpi, and NTLite that allow you to pretty much become god over your operating system. If you want to be able to customize a computer to precisely how you like it, you'll have to get your hands dirty. There is no other way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487411/#p487411 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... He does not want to switch to Windows 10? From what I see, he is actively using it... We are only telling him that his issues can easily be solved. Whether he wants to spend the time configuring his operating system or switch to an older, soon to be unsupported one is his choice. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487406/#p487406 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Seems like the escalating is going both ways, if you can even call it that. I don't see any flaming or insulting going on here, if he doesn't want to upgrade, then he won't, he can make that decision for himself without being so defensive about it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487404/#p487404 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Hey do you think we could stop escalating the matter? Simter has made it pretty clear that he doesn't want to switch to Windows 10, and in the end, it's up to him. It is his computer. Who are we to decide what he "should" or "should not" do? We will only push him away if we continue to force this upon him. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487401/#p487401 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Did you honestly think that an old laptop would handle the free windows 10 upgrade for the long-hall? Unless you have a business machine *doubt it* think of the Windows 10 free upgrade as an unofficial trial period. If you like what you see, chances are you'll buy a new machine, and thus Microsoft gets a license royalty from that manufacturer for your copy of windows 10. Ms isn't saying here, have your free windows, out of the goodness of their heart. THat's not how business works. Ok, maybe they extended the upgrade for assistive technology users out of the goodness of their heart but it ended at a time when Narrator was better than ever, so it worked out for all of us. This isn't the 90s where your technology will actually last you 20 years like my braille-n-speak and dectalk express do. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487395/#p487395 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... And you will use this laptop for the rest of your life I suppose? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487394/#p487394 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @58 and again you didn't red my posts completely. Wait, what did i say? O wait i said this laptop was running win7 before? And i said i was wanting to put a old ssd back into the laptop. And wait, what? It was already in there before? Hmm. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487393/#p487393 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Probably because not everybody uses microphone monitoring, and those who do really should know how to open control panel, don't you think so? I'd expect someone who can code in BGT to know where control panel is too. They are not the default settings, whatever that means, simply right clicking the speaker icon gives you all the basics you need, like per app volume, even per app output devices now but we only talk about bad things in Windows 10. You don't need to do the c drive method to get what you are asking for, simply as people told you 5 times, go to start menu and find file explorer options and set it to open to this PC view when it launches. Oh yeah, good luck with your Windows 7 setup too and using it on newer processors, it might just fail horribly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487389/#p487389 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... That was really to illustrate a point that we are spoiled by oversimplistic computer technology so much that we don't have to figure things out, except when we do need to figure things out, as such we aren't even used to looking it up. Or at least some of us aren't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487370/#p487370 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @55 or maybe create your self some reg files. Also your point with dos made no sense at all. Why did we switch from command line to gui? Wait. Wait. Due to simplicity? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487367/#p487367 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @54: Computers aren't supposed to be all cut and dry and simple to use. You tell that to the people that made Dos and they would've laughed you out of the office. You want a system that just works, go for ios. But no, using an operating system used to be hard work, as you did need to get your hands dirty if something went wrong with your machine. It's true that not everyone has computer knowledge, but knowledge can always be gained. We need a revival of it anyway since the digital illiteray is going down hill.@Simba: Even when you are familiar with the registry it is nice to have the tools at the ready, since things like the Ribbon Disabler are overwritten during system updates. It's nice to be able to just hit the button as part of your routine when updating your system rather than needing to go into the registry every time, but that may be more relevant inf you're a fast-ring insider like me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487366/#p487366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @53 actually, i was thinking about saying screw it and building my old ssd back in with win7 on it lol. Also even if all these things are possible, you need some computer knowledge to fix all these. I have this, but not everyone does. Hiding the sound settings like that is dumm either, if ms knows that their settings are not complete don't make them got damn default so every one gets confused. And jack, even if you repeat your last saying about this thing to get into this computer, it's still a way that makes no sense at all. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487365/#p487365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Yep, the only thing I can freely admit about Windows 10, the default task manager sucks. It's slow, but I do think that it is so even for sighted people, just 5 times more for us lagging our screen readers. When the task manager is slow, which is supposed to be a reliable way to kill not responding programs, then we have a problem. However, classic task manager solves that problem rather nicely. Simpter, if you go to control panel as I have said, sound settings are exactly the same as in Windows 7, so you do not need to use the modern sound settings at all. It's there for exactly the reason that the modern ones are not complete just yet. You could even change the right click on the speakers icon in the system tray to open sound settings in control panel, just install winaero tweaker and you will see many useful tweeks that can help you use your computer. It took me 10 minutes to discover about this program myself, after googling for a few common problems like disabling windows defender, classic task manager and so on I found winaero's site and ever since then I install this app regularly. There is no point repeating anymore, if you don't want to research an operating system switch back to Windows XP and enjoy the classic interfaces. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487353/#p487353 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Hi.At Jack ah, thanks for the pointer there, I'll give it a run.I thin for learnings sake and me not beeing not really versed in the registry, I think I will have a poke at it and if I can't find what I'm looking for in the shell host, I will go and use the tools you described.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487352/#p487352 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... simter wrote:@48 lol i am running win7 and know how to work with it. Isn't a win7 comp a comp as well? So i can't be such a comp dummy. Um, lol? Try saying that after using a Solaris box. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487342/#p487342 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @Simter: The smart computer user will know how to adapt, or at least google their problems rather than just wanting an instant gratification answer/quick fix. Trust me, even back when I was confined to xp I was trying everything I could under the sun to upgrade, and nothing ever worked except when the time came to buy a new machine. Also, are you kidding me.windows+rc:\enterwait for explorer to loadbackspaceThere. Your list of drives. But you can change this option in explorer's settings, you aren't confined to the recents view. If you want to pay someone to tweak your machine for you over nvda remote so that it's to your liking, that is also another option, but it takes away your opportunity to learn it yourself. Seriously. Don't make me go all use the search feature on you. Because there is one. Built right into the www.@Simba: The registry will allow you to change the behavior of the shell experience host, and that does include disabling the ribbon. If you aren't comfortable doing it yourself Winaero's tools do allow you to automate that process, as well as replace your task manager with the classic one from previous versions of windows. Winaero has a strict no distribution policy on their software even though it is free, which does prevent malware-laden installers of their applications floating around, so you can only ever download stuff from winaero's own site. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487338/#p487338 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @Simter: The smart computer user will know how to adapt, or at least google their problems rather than just wanting an instant gratification answer/quick fix. Trust me, even back when I was confined to xp I was trying everything I could under the sun to upgrade, and nothing ever worked except when the time came to buy a new machine. Also, are you kidding me.windows+rc:\enterwait for explorer to loadbackspaceThere. Your list of drives. But you can change this option in explorer's settings, you aren't confined to the recents view. If you want to pay someone to tweak your machine for you over nvda remote so that it's to your liking, that is also another option, but it takes away your opportunity to learn it yourself. Seriously.@Simba: The registry will allow you to change the behavior of the shell experience host, and that does include disabling the ribbon. If you aren't comfortable doing it yourself Winaero's tools do allow you to automate that process, as well as replace your task manager with the classic one from previous versions of windows. Winaero has a strict no distribution policy on their software even though it is free, which does prevent malware-laden installers of their applications floating around, so you can only ever download stuff from winaero's own site. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487338/#p487338 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Hello,I got rid of the slower task manager by installing something called classic task manager that can be found by googling. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487340/#p487340 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @48 lol i am running win7 and know how to work with it. Isn't a win7 comp a comp as well? So i can't be such a comp dummy. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487331/#p487331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Hi.At Simter dude, go read a computer for dummys book.Also, the sign that windows defender blocks your games you coded should be a clear sign and it's the digital way of saying.BGT! is! bad! for! you!File explorer:go hit win key, type file explorer options and set open file explorer to this PC, that's it, takes about 10 seconds and you have that one behaviour back.At Jack, you made me curious, what can you change in the registry about how ribbons and the task manager behave? I'm also not really a fan of the slower task manager, disabling the background processes helps with the load time, but sometimes you need to kil one of these.So, any stuff I can do about it without downloading any tools?Regarding my own say in the matter.I don't have a problem with windows 7 dying out, it was forseable anyway with microsoft pushing windows 10 in the computer, convertible and detachable market, curious what they will try bringing out next, windows phone failed after all and they have a modified version of win 10 on their xBoxes.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487330/#p487330 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @46 aem what? I am soposed to press win r go to a drive and press backspace? Also you seam like you didn't even red through my first post. Cause if you did you would know i have classic shell, and that i found the sound settings but that they are bad sorted. Read to the end before you post.@45 if you red my post you would know that i said it feld like ms word, not it was ms word. That shows me you just ran over the post o he said ms word now i can say he was wrong. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487329/#p487329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Dude. Since the registry must freak you out...1. Classic Shell2. Classic Task Manager3. Ribbon Disabler4. From the run dialogue, c:\, enter, backspace in windows explorer to go into your list of drives. Or, you know, change your folder options.5. From the run dialogue: mmsys.cpl for sound settings. You can feel free to remove that other program now.6. Learn how to use a computer.Thank you, and good night.As an aside, this is not my normal response to a legitimate inquiry. But if you put little effort into explaining/trying to find solutions to the problems and spend more time complaining, then I'm going to produce a half-assed response. You'd see similar from other folks if you were on a mailinglist for a particular software program. When Windows 10 gives me problems, I fix them or learn how to fix them. You can't just have everything handed to you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487316/#p487316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Dude. Since the registry must freak you out...1. Classic Shell2. Classic Task Manager3. Ribbon Disabler4. From the run dialogue, c:\, enter, backspace in windows explorer to go into your list of drives. Or, you know, change your folder options.5. From the run dialogue: mmsys.cpl for sound settings. You can feel free to remove that other program now.6. Learn how to use a computer.Thank you, and good night. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487316/#p487316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Dude. Since the registry must freak you out...1. Classic Shell2. Classic Task Manager3. Ribbon Disabler4. Learn how to use a computer.Thank you, and good night. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487316/#p487316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Dude. Since the registry must freak you tou...1. Classic Shell2. Classic Task Manager3. Ribbon Disabler4. Learn how to use a computer.Thank you, and good night. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487316/#p487316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Windows plus r, type control, and configure your settings, then start ranting. You can switch this PC to always start in the list of drives and folders, you can access your sound settings there perfectly fine. It's not Microsoft word though, it is called a ribbon, and is there since Windows 8, not 10. I don't like them either, but you either deal with it or again, modify the registry because Windows is an open operating system which can be customised the way you want if you do enough research. Oh well, it became more interesting to complain than find a way to fix your issues. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487289/#p487289 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Press the win key, enter "di" into the search field and there you have "dieser Computer". That's the view you probably wanted.Every new operating system takes some getting used to. It's important to not just see a menu option has changed and it's all bad because of it, but to research a little how to do this now and maybe it's even better than before. If you go into this with the mindset "Oh no this has also changed. It must be worse than before.", then you'll never see advantages. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487279/#p487279 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @42 you're right about cortanas yes no question. But i turned it of in the yes no question and it still took the yes even if i didn't say it. Windows defender, well you can only turn it of in the registry. Seams like you can't say anything against the first part of my post. Also no, even if you turn the start sound on it only plays after a reboot. And here goes some more cause due to my sleepyness i forgot to mention some things.So now i wanted to access my external hartdrive to copy some files to the laptop. Press windows e to get into the drives. And where do i get? Into a view that is soposed to show me recent files, which i never used in my windows time. When i manage to get into the computer, i see that the libraries have been thrown inside that menu and devices are no longer properly sorted. But well, that's something you can maybe set in the view menu. Let's press alt o! Where am i here? IN ms word? Well, that's what it looked like. But now finaly let's open up the audio settings to enable my microphon monitoring. Press the speaker symbol and see that there are a few menu items missing, but sound settings sounds like the thing i want. Press this and wow! I am on a, well, webpage. The german translation is kinda bad, but that's nothing most of you propably know about, not mend bad but it's the true. No setting is there where it belonged in win10, and at the end of the day i had to use a different program for my audio monitoring. Great!btw thumps up to post2 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487272/#p487272 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Really sorry, but half of your problems are lazyness and outdated technology. MS did not kill the startup sound, it needs to be turned on. Cortana is easily muted on the setup screen, there are audio controls perfectly accessible with Narrator, and it now starts muted on enterprise. I'm not sure how that could give you a different keyboard in the first place, since before installing any keyboards Cortana asks a yes or no question in the format of I got that you want to use the X keyboard, is this correct? UAC is the same on Windows 7, so not sure how that's worse on 10. There is a sound for notifications on Windows 7 too, it's just more quiet, again, control panel and sound settings, lets you change every single sound you want. If the default file explorer is laggy on your system, why not use something different? Finally, you blame Microsoft for detecting BGT games? I mean come on, every single anti virus does it, so even if you were on 7 and used an anti virus, you would have the same issue. However, there is a way to turn windows defender off, easily can be found by spending 5 minutes googling about your problems. There's a huge possibility I missed some problems, probably would not happen if you worded your post a bit better. Windows 10 is not perfect, but when you get into a new operating system, spending some time to research your issues is necessary, or at least asking on here for help instead of presenting them as facts. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487183/#p487183 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Ok, Let's tell my windows story as well.I started out with windows7 and jaws in 2011. Only for school at that time. Nothing so much of interest happened in this time, except my knowledge improving and me switching to nvda a few years later. I didn't so much got into the win8 release. I recently tried it out the first time lol. In 2015 where i got my new laptop with win7 cause i wanted that (it was a few months before the win10 release), win10 started to anoy me before i even installed it. The way how microsoft tried to make people update is really not a nice thing to do, nicely formed. Also the fact that after some time the people got actually forced to update due to their comps starting the update automatically without asking. Fortunately it didn't do that for me, but the anoying window still kepd getting in my way because it kepd just jumping in without me clicking anything. Remember that thing where there was a tv show using windows to show a weather picture and the windows 10 download message popped up?In 2016 I got my first win10 laptop. A little laptop. It was a tablet pc that i got cause i wanted to have a laptop that i could put into my backpack. I started it up. I was waiting for something to happen. Nothing at all happened. Well, i could see thatt it actually started somehow but nothing else. Only to realize that ms had the brilyant idea to remove the starting sound. Confusing. But with sighted assistance, i was able to get into win 10. But then the lag came. It was quite noticeable. The strange thing was it mainly lagged on windows explorer, all other things seamed to work just fine. I thought it would have to do with the specs of the laptop that where quite low, but it was enough for nvda and audiogaming. What a surprise that a friend with a really high specs laptop (250 gb ssd, 1tb hdd, 4 cores, don't remember ram but also quite nice) told me of the same problems. Switching through alt tab list desktop was gone. Thanks. Windows defender blocked anything that was compiled with bgt, even when i was just compiling it which is rediculous. Let's make a jump to 2019 where i reinstalled my win7 laptop and it now runns win10. I already regretted it when the setup process came. Yes, it is talking. Yes, it's accessible. And yes it's fast. But the cortana was anoying to turn of, every time i tried doing it it took the narrator speech and interpreted it as me speaking. That took me a while and a chech instead of german keyboard leyord. After i got through half of the installation. I see i should enter my microsoft account. No thanks, don't wanting cause i didn't had a primary one at that time. After i took a few minutes to find the offline account option (and narrator dying a few times) and verifying 2 got damn times that i don't want to use my ms account, i was through the config and installed nvda. I was already happy, till the lag came. Again this got damn laggy windows explorer. On an ssd, on a hdd it would be kind of normal. Why do i have a sound for every single message baloun? Even when i installed classic shell the menu didn't look like in win7. Windows defender was doing all stuff it could to keep me from playing (my own) games, again. Data transfer on multiple drives is broken, works here on my win7 machine just fine. Every time i access the drive with a program that isn't win explorer, the drive gets disconnected. Anoying. The taskmanager got slow as nothing. Well no wonder. It got overfilled with a lot of stuffage that is really not belonging in there. Processes, especially if they are windowless, are only shown sometimes and i really couldn't notice a pattern there. Uac now even asks if i want to permit windows to change administrative stuff. The fans of the laptop are always quite high when on win7 they never did that.Ok, little ranty story is over. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487180/#p487180 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @arqmeister: I've seen name-brand (not including custom-build) gaming laptops offer less bang for your buck than a business laptop used for gaming. My xps15 is not advertised as a gaming laptop but it definitely could be one. $1700 or there abouts, and we have:4.1ghz intel core i7 with 6 cores (supports hyperthreading up to 12 cores)16gb (8x2) ddr4 ramnvme2 ssdwifi6Bluetooth5nvidia GeForce gtx1650Windows 10 Pro URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487174/#p487174 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... As a gamer i can say windows 10 is the future. Probably going to buy myself a gaming laptop for christmas, install steam and some emulators and be a happy camper. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487167/#p487167 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I'm very disappointed that the manufacturers of built-in fingerprint readers for pc's don't have an easy-to-interface-to api. WIndows Hello is the only thing it's useful for. How I'd love to be able to biolockdown certain apps... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/487049/#p487049 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @36, I've got a master password plus U2F authentication for my password manager. I don't think Btwarden allows U2F-only auth, though I wish it did. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486963/#p486963 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Comparing Apple to UAC is, forgive the horrible pun, comparing apples to oranges. Apple literally bars apps from running in the current build unless their devs pay Apple the $100 a year for notorization. UAC is technically effective against zeroday vulnerabilities and malicious code, but when you run damn near any game program such as those from BSC and any game that has direct control over the sound hardware and such, then you are going to definitely get UAC notifications. And unless you can whitelist certain programs to run permanently without UAC notifying yo, then the solution is to disable notifications. The copy-protection system for BSC's programs seemed to put license data in the c:\windows\system32 directory. I don't know which drm system is is, but the company that developed it must not have been thinking very rationally there - I mean I get hiding stuff from plain site to protect against piracy, but how could they not expect it to trigger the anti-viruses? Lol!The real way to stay secure, along with common sense of course, is to backup, backup your backups, and backup the backups of your backups. But seeing as that won't necessarily stop your data from being stolen, going the u2f route can really do wonders. I.e. a password manager that accepts logins via a u2f security key rather than a enterable master password, so that in the even theres a keystroke logger, they won't ever get that master password you typed or pasted into a password manager.As for Windows 7 end of life? Bout time. Windows 10 runs swimmingly on this machine, granted it has a 4.1ghz intel core i7 6core cpu that hyperthreads and 16gb of ram, but really as long as you aren't running windows 10 with 4gb of ram or less and are using an ssd, you're fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486948/#p486948 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Oh yes of course, I do know that it is not fully disabled, but in most cases setting it to 0 is enough, borrowing a few exceptions for legacy apps. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486930/#p486930 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @31, yeah, but setting it to 0% doesn't fully disable it. In any case, you're right, if you want a walled garden where you can't make meaningful changes and the manufacturer knows best, then go pay Apple a visit. Otherwise, if some of us do poke around in the registry because we know what we're doing, assume we know the risks of said action. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486919/#p486919 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @32, Again, common sense does protect you from some things, but not everything.@31, the setting the slider to zero method does not completely disable UAC. UAC is still active. It just gets rid of prompts (which really aren't as annoying as people make them out to be). There is a way to (completely) disable UAC but itis not a recommend practice, is unsupported on Windows 8 and later, and causes problems with UWP apps, windows firewall and so on. Setting the slider to never notify is a bad idea on its own (I'll let you figure that out for yourselves, its not that hard). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486892/#p486892 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @32, Again, common sense does protect you from some things, but not everything. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486892/#p486892 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Point taken about CCleaner, and zero day vulnerabilities if that's the throughline of your argument, but that's about as far as I'll go. When more audio games start writing their saves to Appdata, which some do, I'll consider, maybe, backing down on my stance. Even so, common sense can and does protect you from a lot of things. It's common sense, or should be, not to make your passwords to everything 123456 or some ridiculous variant thereof. Those who do, even knowing they shouldn't, are asking for trouble and basically deserve what they get. Same with clicking on shady popups, opening unsolicited email attachments, and downloading seedy torrents. These are the most common causes of the spread of viruses/malware, not a small subset of the population who doesn't want Microsoft telling them where they should or should not store their data. If people are actually gullible enough to believe they can win a Macbook Pro by clicking on a cute animation in 2019, shame on them, and furthermore, those same people aren't even going to know what UAC is beyond the fact that it's the angel on their shoulder asking them whether they want to install a thing. I'm hammering this point home purposely because the masses know about scams, they know about viruses, and they know about password managers. Whether the media does a decent job or not of supplying that information is a completely different argument, but there is zero excuse for someone to say, "well, I didn't know!"I've disabled UAC since I've used Windows 7, and guess what, shock horror, I haven't had to deal with any malware that I can think of. If I did, I'd have no one to blame but myself, but until then, I'm not going to let anyone try and browbeat or scare me into doing something that's senseless for how I do things. Note, again, that how I do things is not how the majority should do them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486890/#p486890 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Point taken about CCleaner, and zero day vulnerabilities if that's the throughline of your argument, but that's about as far as I'll go. When more audio games start writing their saves to Appdata, which some do, I'll consider, maybe, backing down on my stance. Even so, common sense can and does protect you from a lot of things. It's common sense, or should be, not to make your passwords to everything 123456 or some ridiculous variant thereof. Those who do, even knowing they shouldn't, are asking for trouble and basically deserve what they get. Same with clicking on shady popups, opening unsolicited email attachments, and downloading seedy torrents. These are the most common causes of the spread of viruses/malware, not a small subset of the population who doesn't want Microsoft telling them where they should or should not store their data. If people are actually gullible enough to believe they can win a Macbook Pro by clicking on a cute animation in 2019, shame on them, and furthermore, those same people aren't even going to know what UAC is beyond the fact that it's the angel on their shoulder asking them whether they want to install a thing. I've disabled UAC since I've used Windows 7, and guess what, I haven't had to deal with any malware that I can think of. If I did, I'd have no one to blame but myself, but until then, I'm not going to let anyone try and browbeat or scare me into doing something that's senseless for how I do things. Note, again, that how I do things is not how the majority should do them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486890/#p486890 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... So why does Microsoft allow it then if it should never ever be done? Why is there a setting if it's so trivial to have it enabled? More importantly however, how would UAC save you from your C cleaner example? You would still trust the program and allow it to run. I find it mostly useless. Almost every installer, especially the classic ino setup ones request admin rights as soon as they launch for obvious reasons, regardless of where you install an app, so you will basically blindly press yes anyways since at that point you cannot assume every installer out there is unsafe. When it comes to running apps, the story does change, but even then I don't see any benefit in UAC and how it can save me. It's just a yes no prompt, and you don't assume something is dangerous just because it is requesting admin rights. Any system scanning tool will do that, anti viruses do it, our screen readers need admin rights, and many other examples. I view user account control way more useful for cases where multiple users are using one PC and you know for a fact you don't want to allow an account to install apps. For my own use though, I see little benefit. Let people configure their systems the way they want. You can advise somebody, but there's no need to be like never do this or enable that. It's in control panel for a reason, and if MS thought it was that dangerous to disable it it would be in the registry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486889/#p486889 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Disabling UAC is precisely the wrong thing to do. Common sense is not a cure to prevent all software vulnerabilities, and just because you use "a little common sense" does in no way make you invulnerable. Most games save their save data outside the installation directory; a user should never have to write to program files/program files (x86) ever unless they're running an installer/uninstaller/whatever. Program files/program files (x86) is a protected directory. Never disable UAC. Ever.UAC does not "complain" when its notification setting is higher than zero. It prevents tools from performing possibly malicious actions and gives you a chance to intervene if necessary. Setting the notification slider to zero just turns that off, meaning that any application can gain elevated privileges and you'd never know it. Turning off UAC means that an application can write to pretty much anywhere on your system and you'd never know it.As for the last point in 29, someone who does not have any knowledge about the internals of a computer should still have an administrative account if they're IT or if its a consumer device. But never, ever turn off UAC. Just don't. If you do, your opening yourself up to maliciouscode that can bypass your "common sense". "Common sense", as I said, is definitely not a cure. In fact, in 2017 CCleaner's website was hacked and CCleaner was replaced with a CCleaner that behaved almost exactly the same as the original tool. Even if you closed the application, it wouldn't actually terminate. After 10 minutes of using it would connect to its command and control server and await orders. If you didn't know this information and happened to download the malicious CCleaner binary, what would your "common sense" tell you? How exactly would it protect you from a threat you can't even see?Yes, there's antimalware/antivirus software. But antimalware/antivirus software is not perfect. A bit of human oversite is also required.. The kind of reasoning for disabling UAC that I've seen in this topic is the exactly same (and misguided) reasoning for not using encryption: "Why should I use it if I have nothing to hide?" Both sets of reasons are incredibly naive viewpoints and are only going to cause you harm in the end. After all, Icould ask you a nice counterquestion: why do you lock the door of your house before you leave if you have nothing to hide? Why do you have a security alarm system if you've got nothing to hide? If you really have nothing to hide then you won't mind leaving all your entryways unlocked so I can prance in and look around when your away, right?Of course, that's flawed. You'd have a huge problem with leaving your house unlocked and vulnerable. Every computer system should be made with security in mind. It doesn't matter if your not storing any supposedly sensitive information on that system at the time of its creation. You'd still want to protect it and the data on it because if you didn't, people could just hack it and modify that data. And, of course, you can't ignore the possibility that you may store sensitive information in the future on it. Its much better to secure a system from the start instead of securing it "after the fact". URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486885/#p486885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Disabling UAC is precisely the wrong thing to do. Common sense is not a cure to prevent all software vulnerabilities, and just because you use "a little common sense" does in no way make you invulnerable. Most games save their save data outside the installation directory; a user should never have to write to program files/program files (x86) ever unless they're running an installer/uninstaller/whatever. Program files/program files (x86) is a protected directory. Never disable UAC. Ever.UAC does not "complain" when its notification setting is higher than zero. It prevents tools from performing possibly malicious actions and gives you a chance to intervene if necessary. Setting the notification slider to zero just turns that off, meaning that any application can gain elevated privileges and you'd never know it. Turning off UAC means that an application can write to pretty much anywhere on your system and you'd never know it.As for the last point in 29, someone who does not have any knowledge about the internals of a computer should still have an administrative account if they're IT or if its a consumer device. But never, ever turn off UAC. Just don't. If you do, your opening yourself up to maliciouscode that can bypass your "common sense". "Common sense", as I said, is definitely not a cure. In fact, in 2017 CCleaner's website was hacked and CCleaner was replaced with a CCleaner that behaved almost exactly the same as the original tool. Even if you closed the application, it wouldn't actually terminate. After 10 minutes of using it would connect to its command and control server and await orders. If you didn't know this information and happened to download the malicious CCleaner binary, what would your "common sense" tell you? How exactly would it proect you from a threat you can't even see? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486885/#p486885 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Speaking for myself, I disable UAC because with it on, even with notifications set to 0%, I can't save game data in either of the Program Files folders. I understand that many people prefer to keep their portable games in other places on their computers, but I'm a bit OCD about that. For me, programs, portable or not, belong in either Program Files or X86 depending on the infrastructure of the program in question, no exceptions. It would bother the ever loving crap out of me to change that, though I recognize this is a personal preference. People have been screaming about the fact that disabling UAC is the equivalent of handing all your data to a hacker and begging them to lock it so you can pay them all your hard-earned money for years, but just as with many things involving computer security, a little common sense goes a long way. Would I recommend that a novice user disables UAC? no, I would not, but then, people who know little or nothing about the inner workings of computers have no business using an admin account, either, so that's a moot point as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486849/#p486849 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I recommend upgrading your build of Windows 10 at least once every 18 months. Microsoft only supports each version for that long, so anything from 2015 to early 2018 isn't receiving security updates anymore. I recommend using at least versions from October of 2018 or newer.Companies take forever to upgrade anything. Most of the reason is because it's too expensive, would take too much time, or they have software that doesn't work with the new OS. All I can say is don't connect abandoned operating systems to the Internet. You can use them all you want offline, but be really careful when on the Internet or installing software. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486838/#p486838 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I recommend upgrading your build of Windows 10 at least once every 18 months. Microsoft only supports each version for that long, so anything from 2015 to early 2018 isn't receiving security updates anymore. I recommend using at least versions from October of 2018 or newer.Companies take forever to upgrade anything. Most of the reason is because it's too expensive, it would take too much time, or they have software that doesn't work with the new OS. All I can say is don't connect abandoned operating systems to the Internet. You can use them all you want offline, but be really careful when on the Internet or installing software. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486838/#p486838 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I recommend upgrading your build of Windows 10 at least once every 18 months. Microsoft only supports each version for that long, so anything from 2015 to early 2018 isn't receiving security updates anymore. I recommend using at least versions from October of 2018 or newer. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486838/#p486838 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I upgraded to 10 a year and a bit ago, and haven't minded it so far. I still keep a virtual machine of 7 around to play some of the older games like the ones from BSC, but I rarely use it these days. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486833/#p486833 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Well when I say "disabling UAC" I mean setting notifications to zero, not disabling entirely. But really if you don't do this the thing is a pain, complaining about quite legitimate programs like C cleaner and Malware bites, not to mention games saving data on the C drive, indeed my laptop currently gives me a UAC warning I can't stop with classic shell everytime it loads even with notifications set to zero, which is quite annoying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486825/#p486825 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Why are you disabling UAC? It defeats one of the main reasons of the later OS's. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486809/#p486809 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I'm with Dark on this one. I personally loved Windows 7 and XP both, so I was a bit upset to have to leave those behind. To an extent, for nostalgia reasons I do sort of miss those interfaces, but I'm doing just fine with Windows 10. I wouldn't have it any other way. In fact, it really eats me up that after almost 3-and-a-half years, there are still companies that are using Windows 7 on their computers. It really bothers me how lazy they are to just update everything. I'm sure government agencies have moments of inactivity where they can take the time to update things; hell schools have 2 or 3 months of inactivity where they can take the time to update, and yet they just don't do it. I honestly cannot understand why they do that, but I guess there's nothing we can do about it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486803/#p486803 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Okay I have a bit of a tale to tell. Back in 2014 I recall this debate about microsoft stopping support for xp. I had tried windows 7 and had not liked either the layout or how many things worked, and from the sound of it, ten was going to be worse. Not only that, it seemed that so many aps and games would go bye bye due to the hole switch from 32 to 64 bit applications, and frankly having had some games since 2006, I didn't see why a lot of vague superlatives about "more secure, more ram, more this more that or more the other" should replace an xp machine that to my knowledge was perfectly good. I seriously considered switching to mac at that point and probably would've done if it weren't for even more program compatibility headaches. then it got to 2015, and my xp machine was still running fine, so why worry about all this windows 10 malarkey, I mean, people were saying how windows 10 had privacy issues, how you couldn't modify the C drive, how user account control stopped you putting files where you wanted, how it had adverts that got in the way at annoying places, how outlook express was gone etc etc, so obviously I was best out of it. But then a funny thing started to happen. I started not to be able to do things. Psycho strike, oh dear, it doesn't run on Xp. How about some of these cool sounding online games like space company or universal paper clips, sorry, you can't run those with internet explorer.Soo what was I going to do, get that mac after all and abandon compatibility?The answer, is what I did was meet Mrs. Dark, get married, and spend about 18 months not really concerned about computing too much, (Even Manamon was only a mild interest).Then, the other side of 2016, things looked very different, there seemed to be more and more things Xp wouldn't do, and more and more good reasons to just bite the bullet and try windows 10.So I did, January of 2017 there came my shiny new windows 10 machine with 8 gb of ram. And the really amazing hing? so much of what I'd suspected was wrong! User account control? Quite possible to disable. Annoying layout? Well that is what classic shell is for. Moving things around and writing to different drives? no problem. Privacy issues? well why use the microsoft store unless you don't have to, plus C cleaner can take care of those annoying trackers, as well as kill any adverts or suggested microsoft programs or anything else I don't want, plus there's google chrome's privacy settings anyway. As for email, well thunderbird is as good if not better than outlook express ever was, and doesn't have ms outlook's annoying layout.then I found something else strange, there were actually things I liked! Oh look, downloads and Usb transfers are faster, and now they happen in separate windows too. As for all my old programs, well other than the bsc games and most dos programs, everything works absolutely fine! plus of course there's now Eamon remastered to replace Eamon deluxe.And then there is the new software that's being written, as well as access to new systems and platforms such as steam, and hardware like microphones. also bare in mind I did not just change windows versions, I changed primary screen readers too from Supernova to NVdA. Now I have two windows ten machines, this 8 gb ram desktop, and a 3 gb laptop, which both run fine (the laptop can slowdown a little until it's updated, though this is fixable by just disabling windows updates for a bit).so, while I still have sympathy for anyone who wants to use their old operating system, at the same time I'd very much suggest people perhaps keep an open mind and be prepared to try things out for yourselves, rather than on hearsay, rumour, or even a five minute trial with a vanilla copy of the system that you haven't had chance to use on a daily basis or poke around settings of.These days, while I have fond memories of xp, and I still rather like the Xp style classic start menu with it's handy subfolders, I wouldn't want to go back. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486796/#p486796 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
2019-12-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ashleygrobler04 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... well it deppends. you probably won't loose your files, but rather make sure you have a backup of the important data to prevent data loss.Else if you don't have verry important data on your machine, you can just update it. but i don't think you will loose data. i think there is an option that says install without loosing all files... i can't remember. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486763/#p486763 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... hiwhen I run the media creation tool to upgrade to ten, do I have to go through a windows 10 setup process or something? and do I loose my files when I upgrade? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486762/#p486762 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... hiwhen I run the media creation tool to upgrade to ten, do I have to go through a windows 10 setup process or something? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486762/#p486762 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @OP: Microsoft pushing the accounts thing is a misconception. you can use Windows 10 with a local account as @burak mentioned. I would advise you to try 10 yourself instead of just going based off of what other people are saying. I've never signed into a Microsoft account on this computer and can download apps and run Windows just fine.Concerned about data collection? Not like our phones haven't been doing for years already. I was surprised when one of my friends showed me their Alexa account and how much audio there was there that Alexa had marked as "not for Alexa" but still kept it. So, if you have a smartphone (which I'm sure you do,) there are companies that have way more information than Microsoft does...but that didn't stop you from getting a smartphone, did it? Heck, even Google's Re CAPTCHA thing is meant to track you. But we all still stay signed into our Google accounts to bypass the challenge. I do.Once Microsoft drops support for seven, a lot of developers (especially those using the latest advances in .NET) will drop support for seven also.Frankly, all these points have been argued over and over and I don't know why the same question keeps coming up, because nothing anyone says here will change peoples' minds anyway. You can either upgrade or not upgrade, up to you. Seems like the "should I upgrade to 10?" question will never go away. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486760/#p486760 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... agreed with #7. windows 7 is dieing URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486752/#p486752 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
2019-12-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ashleygrobler04 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... we can't keep living in the past. if we want more accessibility, we can't expect a big company like microsoft to keep developing for the past, we should accept that windows 10 is the primary OS. it is a lot more accessible than windows 7 and 8. it is becoming better and better each day. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486740/#p486740 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I fully agree with 7. W7 should die and BTW... it is dying. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486738/#p486738 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Hello,As a user of windows 10 with narrator on a daily basis, I can tell you that narrator's performance depends on the ram and the specs of the computer which runs it more than NVDA, but it is ok anyway. I upgraded my Lenovo laptop which came with windows 8.1 to windows 10 myself and I managed the learning curve fairly well in my opinion. Now, I have two computers which run windows 10. One of them is a casper tablet like thing with a keyboard. I use it for school and I use office with narrator. It works very wel except in very large documents, in that case it slows down to a crawl, but anyway, it's nice in my opinion.I only use NVDA to play games or to click somethings with the mouse, because narrator cannot move the mouse around the screen and make it click. I use narrator for everything else.Sorry, it has been a very long post, but thanks for reading anyway. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486737/#p486737 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
2019-12-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : philip_bennefall via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... For my part as a developer, I plan to support Windows 7 in any products that I release in the next couple of years or so, unless I have a very good reason not to. For example, in Windows 10 you have access to a bunch of text to speech features that aren't available in 7, but it is possible to do a nice fallback at runtime with very little extra work. I think people should upgrade, for sure, but for the few that can't for whatever reason, I will make an effort to keep it running for a while. But to be clear, Windows 7 is dying and I think it is best to switch as soon as humanly possible.Kind regards,Philip Bennefall URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486733/#p486733 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
2019-12-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : philip_bennefall via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... For my part as a developer, I plan to support Windows 7 for at least a couple of years unless I have a very good reason not to. For example, in Windows 10 you have access to a bunch of text to speech features that aren't available in 7, but it is possible to do a nice fallback at runtime with very little extra work. I think people should upgrade, for sure, but for the few that can't for whatever reason, I will make an effort to keep it running for a while. But to be clear, Windows 7 is dying and I think it is best to switch as soon as humanly possible.Kind regards,Philip Bennefall URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486733/#p486733 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I must say that since I have used Windows 10 since its launch in 2015, I have not had a single crash from it. The first computer I had it on was a Dell Inspiron PC with 2.9 GB of RAM on it, and 218 GB of hard disc space. I had been using it for nearly 6 years prior to this. It worked fine, until a family member slammed the lid of a laptop with unnecessary force in a fit of temper, but where I stand right now is this:I have Windows 10 on an HP Envy Laptop with Windows 10 1903 (I haven't updated it to the latest build yet). It's starting to deteriorate in speed because of its age, but I have had it for nearly 5 years, and it still runs reasonably well. I also have Windows 10 1909 on an HP Envy Convertible X360 Laptop which I am using now, and it's lightning fast! I can assure you of the fact that even legacy titles like those of BSC run, as long as the right utilities are installed (which, after you know where to go to get them, it's not difficult at all to install them.) I can post a guide if anyone is interested. I will not hide from you that there is a learning curve to Windows 10, but it is manageable. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486730/#p486730 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Hello,I bought a computer running windows 10. At first, as a windows 7 netbook user, I thought that I would have to adapt to a lot of changes, but it turns out I thought wrong. It even runs games from 2004-2005 without crashes, in fact the game from 2004 crashed just once. In windows 7 it crashed more often. Simply don't connect to the internet in setup then log in with a local account. Make sure when you sign in to some microsoft service such as windows store, click the option that says only for microsoft apps so it doesn't sign you into windows with your microsoft account. Out of bordem I installed a windows xp sound theme on it because honestly the sounds of windows 10 mean nothing to me. The netbook I have, I use it for school and can't dare upgrade it to windows 10. It connects to internet a bit rarely anyway, just for mail at the moment. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486725/#p486725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Hello,I bought a computer running windows 10. At first, as a windows 7 netbook user, I thought that I would have to adapt to a lot of changes, but it turns out I thought wrong. It even runs games from 2004-2005 without crashes, in fact the game from 2004 crashed just once. In windows 7 it crashed more often. Simply don't connect to the internet in setup then log in with a local account. Make sure when you sign in to some microsoft service such as windows store, click the option that says only for microsoft apps so it doesn't sign you into windows with your microsoft account. The netbook I have, I use it for school and can't dare upgrade it to windows 10. It connects to internet a bit rarely anyway, just for mail at the moment. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486725/#p486725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... hiI can't leave from windoze seven URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486723/#p486723 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @10 Are you sure that's not just nostalgia? Sure, XP was great at the time, but nowadays, running XP is a real pain. For me, Windows 7 did everything XP did just better and Windows 10 is the most stable system ever. I had not a single crash in my three years I used it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486720/#p486720 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... xp was the best, vista, just fuck it, 7, my first OS that i started with, 8, that tablet sort of thing, used once and almost puked it, 8.1, an upgrade from 8, 10, its going so fari'M not going to hate 7 or anything but still, people should abel to use what ever they wantand i'M sure the support for win7 will be extended like win7 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486695/#p486695 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... @7, +1. Fully agree. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486680/#p486680 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... is it good if i stay with the current version of windows 10 i have? its the 2016 edition, or do you think i should upgrade? Tried it once... I believe it was the may of 2019 version and NVDA said unknown for some reason and this happened a lot . Has this gotten better with newer versions? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486678/#p486678 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... is it good if i stay with the version of windows i have? its the 2016 edition, or do you think i should upgrade? Tried it once... I believe it was the may of 2019 version and NVDA said unknown for some reason and this happened a lot . Has this gotten better with newer versions? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486678/#p486678 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... is it good if i stay with the version of windows i have? its the 2016 edition, or do you think i should upgrade? Tried it once... I believe it was the may of 2019 version and NVDA said unknown for some reason and not in a lot of cases. Has this gotten better with newer versions? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486678/#p486678 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Yay! Windows 7 is finally going away! Windows 10 keeps getting better and better in terms of blindness accessibility. I don't care about previous versions of Windows anymore because they're not as accessible to troubleshoot as an IT professional. Windows 10 is the future, and hopefully Microsoft continues their efforts to make Narrator a truly viable and productive screen reader.My advice is to leave Windows 7 behind and move to 10. Most computers that ran 7 seem to handle 10 just fine, and you can upgrade for free if you use the media creation tool. Yes, I don't like some of the things Microsoft is doing with privacy, but the reality is that Windows 10 is the future. The work on Narrator has the potential to open up more job opportunities. Why pay for JAWS when you have two free alternatives, one of which is built into every copy of Windows? We live in interesting times. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486675/#p486675 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... Yay! Windows 7 is finally going away! Windows 10 keeps getting better and better in terms of blindness accessibility. I don't care about previous versions of Windows anymore because they're not as accessible to troubleshoot as an IT professional. Windows 10 is the future, and hopefully Microsoft continues their efforts to make Narrator a truly viable and productive screen reader.My advice is to leave Windows 7 behind and move to 10. Most computers that ran 7 seem to handle 10 just fine, and you can upgrade for free if you use the media creation tool. Yes, I don't like some of the things Microsoft is doing with privacy and the like, but the reality is that Windows 10 is the future. The work on Narrator Microsoft is doing has the potential to open up more job opportunities. Why pay for JAWS when you have two free alternatives, one of which is built into every copy of Windows? We live in interesting times. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486675/#p486675 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... This just means that n security updates will be pushed out to Windows 7 users any longer. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486651/#p486651 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... i'm a little confused. So on january 14 say if I still have windows 7, will I no longer be able to run the machine, or does this just mean that it will no longer get updates? I don't really mind; I have windows 10 from 2016 on a vm anyway URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486639/#p486639 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I have to agree completely with Jayde on this one. I'm running the November 2019 update on a PC from 2012, and I haven't experienced any lag at all. Granted, this computer has 8 GB of RAM, an Intel I5-2320 CPU, and an SSD, but most newer computers should be able to run Windows 10 just fine. I also ran earlier versions of Windows 10 on a laptop with less RAM, a weaker CPU, and a traditional HDD with good results.The privacy concerns are well warranted, but most of the tracking settings can be disabled through the settings app or the registry if you wish. There's still a way to only create a local account if you don't want to log in with a Microsoft account, but I've heard Microsoft has made it harder to do in the last few updates. I wish they'd just leave it up to people what kind of account they want, but that probably isn't going to happen.I've been using Windows since 2002, and I feel like Windows 10 is the most stable and least error-prone iteration I've seen. Going off the top of my head, I can't recall a single major crash or error in the four years since I switched from 8 to 10. Windows 7 was much better than 8 for stability, but it still doesn't beat 10 in my opinion. Another point in Windows 10's favor is the fact that I can install it on my own using Narrator. The days of having to ask for sighted assistance or use a pre-installation environment are gone, and I couldn't be more happy about that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486635/#p486635 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life...
Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I honestly don't see the problem here. I have never experienced any appreciable lag under windows 7, 8 or 10. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486629/#p486629 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Let's talk about windows seven end of life... I'm done. I want a computer, not a ... whatever this is, that Windows 8 and 10 have become. Oh, it's been a progression, from XP onward. Vista's failure was something completely different. But 8 is the point where Windows made it abundantly clear what roles they want themselves and the users to play, and 10 solidifies it. You practically have to be cyber-Amish to just have a "word processor, games, audio" machine. You may notice that I left out "internet". That's the Amish part.I guess I should stop whining, and start Wining, so I can have Linux with VMs when I run out of viable Windows machines. Something tells me there's no point in bothering after that, though.I'm sure Windows 10 will be OK on an Offline machine, right? I'll just have to turn off a ton of "services" so it doesn't lag every 5min when I'm in the middle of something, and keep the wifi turned off unless I really, really need to use the internet and can't USB the files to ... wait, I can't USB files from my computer to my phone. Curses, foiled again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/486627/#p486627 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
