Re: problem with steam guard
Re: problem with steam guard I'll make it easier. 1when the window to enter the code appears, just press alte tabe to go to the steam guard window.then just type in the code, and hit enter.the code is all more capital, then after typing, and press enter, just use the n v d a OCR, press finish. if the code is correct, the option to complete will appear.just close the window with alte f4 or press enter when done. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611692/#p611692 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard
2021-01-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard Paste the code and hit enter. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611644/#p611644 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard
2021-01-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard ok, so the login goes like this:After you have enterd the password and pressed enter you will get to the guard, press tab one's, then enter, then paste the code and press enter, |boom. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611640/#p611640 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard
Re: problem with steam guard hi @4, did it, didn't work URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611634/#p611634 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard
2021-01-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : zkline via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard You can literally just type the code as soon as the window comes up and press Enter and that should log you in. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611633/#p611633 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard
Re: problem with steam guard hithe thing is, theres no screen on my computer. it got disconnected, and ocr on this computer is not the greatest URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611623/#p611623 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam guard
Re: problem with steam guard use nvda OCR to help youYou should see a code field, hit enter on that while in OCR and type the code, then use OCR again to find the confirm button and do the same. That should work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/611620/#p611620 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam, a little help please?
2020-12-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam, a little help please? I didn't know Steam was accessible. When I got it on my computer, I couldn't even get through it with NVDA. Am I missing something? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597121/#p597121 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam, a little help please?
Re: problem with steam, a little help please? yes lolto signatures I had the Japanese lyrics for pains theme URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597062/#p597062 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam, a little help please?
Re: problem with steam, a little help please? BTW love the pain refference from Naruto in your signature. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597035/#p597035 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam, a little help please?
Re: problem with steam, a little help please? wha?I didn't see it. let me check my topicseditI had to desable steam guard, but it works. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597001/#p597001 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam, a little help please?
Re: problem with steam, a little help please? wha?I didn't see it. let me check my topics URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597001/#p597001 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam, a little help please?
Re: problem with steam, a little help please? you asked this a little while ago. I answerd you. Did that work? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596988/#p596988 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-12-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam ok when you open steam you will here steam login, if not press enter. Type your username and press tab, then type your password. Press tab and then space. Press enter.If you have steam guard enabled. Press tab again and enter, type, or paste the code in there, press enter and your good to go. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/594771/#p594771 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-11-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam ok, open steam and then wait a few moment's, alt tab out of it and then go back in, press tab, NVDA should now go into a window and start reading a bunch of stuff. From here go to the top and press E to go to search. Search for the game you want to play and find it in the list. Press enter then find a link that reads play now. Press that and the game will load. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588798/#p588798 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam @Gamulation, as I've said before, the client just reads like gibberish to me. Sometimes it shows nothing, sometimes I get my username and names of games, sometimes just bits of random text. I have tried using NVDA screen review mode, which indeed I often use in other applications, I've also tried ocr and most recently the Obj pad, nothing works. I assume this is a display problem with the client, indeed inconsistent display is usually the hallmark of very bad accessibility, EG, labels being hidden, text not displaying unless the mouse is scrolled somewhere, windows appearing and disappearing etc.Either way, I know I am not the only person who has had this problem, and given Valve's zero response to anything to do with accessibility I don't imagine it will be solved any time soon, hence why my personal advice with regards to Steam, is to avoid using the shitty client as much as humanly possible. fortunately, it is indeed quite possible to avoid using the client given that so many functions are possible through the website, or through creating windows shortcuts as I said, which is the one thing that makes Steam bearable. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588796/#p588796 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam @Gamulation, as I've said before, the client just reads like gibberish to me. Sometimes it shows nothing, sometimes I get my username and names of games, sometimes just bits of random text. I have tried using NVDA screen review mode, which indeed I often use in other applications, I've also tried ocr and most recently the Obj pad, nothing works. I assume this is a display problem with the client, indeed inconsistent display is usually the hallmark of very bad accessibility, EG, labels being hidden, text not displaying unless the mouse is scrolled somewhere etc etc. Either way, I know I am not the only person who has had this problem, and given Valve's zero response to anything to do with accessibility I don't imagine it will be solved any time soon, hence why my personal advice with regards to Steam, is to avoid using the stupid client as much as humanly possible. fortunately, it is indeed quite possible to avoid using the Stupid client given that so many functions are possible through the website, or through creating windows shortcuts as I said. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588796/#p588796 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-11-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam @dark, the client is actually verry good, you can purchase games, open them and chat with friends URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588783/#p588783 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam For those who are wondering about the article mentioned, it is Pitermach's very good guide on how to use Steam with a screen reader, it can be Found here.@vablus, The two best ways of getting to your games I've found, are either to go onto the website, hit the link for your username, then look for the link imaginatively called "games" from there to get a list. For actually running the games, I'd recommend going to program files/steam/steamaps/common, where you can find normal windows game folders for all of your games. From here, just go to the .exe files for each game, and create shortcuts to them, the way you would any normal windows application. this is imho the only good thing to be said about the abysmally terrible Steam client, that you can mostly circumvent needing to use it, and run Steam games like any normal windows game.Hth. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588499/#p588499 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-11-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam in the run dialog typesteam://nav/gamesthere are actually a few of thise URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588185/#p588185 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-11-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vablus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam Right, I've logged into steam, but am stuck. I don't know where to go to access my library of games that I've got.Any ideas? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588184/#p588184 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-11-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Meatbag via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam hi,what is that article you guys are talking aboutI did not found it in the articles room URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588181/#p588181 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam Create the login shortcut for the client as described in the article, then login on the website. Once you have bought the games you want, or if they are free, there should be a "play now" link, hit that and your browser will ask you if you want to open the links in Steam. do that and a window called "steam bootstrapper" will appear. hit enter on that window and wait for the thing to download. if your lucky you might see a number counter on this window saying the game name and a time count (I saw it yesterday when I downloaded audio wizards, but not when I downloaded other things). either way, just leave that bootstrapper window open for a while, and hit enter on it.You can tell when the game's downloaded by when the game's program files appear in your program files steam/steamaps/ common folder, after which you should be able to find the .exe shortcut for the games and run them like a windows program (so long as you open the steam client first). This is the best way I've found to deal with Steam, since reading the client window never seems to be reliable for me no matter what I try, so the less I need to use the stupid thing, the better.hth. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588179/#p588179 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam Create the login shortcut for the client as described in the article, then login on the website. Once you have bought the games you want, or if they are free, there should be a "play now" button, hit that and your browser will ask you if you want to open the links in Steam. do that and a window called "steam bootstrapper" will appear. hit enter on that window and wait for the thing to download. if your lucky you might see a number counter on this window saying the game name and a time count (I saw it yesterday when I downloaded audio wizards, but not when I downloaded other things). either way, just leave that bootstrapper window open for a while. You can tell when the game's downloaded by when the game's program files appear in your program files steam/steamaps/ common folder, after which you should be able to find the .exe shortcut for the games and run them like a windows program (so long as you open the steam client first). This is the best way I've found to deal with Steam, since reading the client window never seems to be reliable for me no matter what I try, so the less I can interact with it, the better. hth. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588179/#p588179 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-11-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam ok, the download button is Play now, it will then open your steam client and you can then just press enter when it seys install and gamename. When that window goes away the game will start downloading, press enter until it goes away, not spam it but a few times should be the thing you need. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588177/#p588177 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-11-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam First, open the client and log in. Then try logging in on Steam's website, and navigating to the pages of the games you've bought. There should be a download button, I think titled "Open in Steam".If you press that, and confirm that you want to open the link in Steam client, you should be on the download screen.You should probably download the ObjPad add on. I think I needed its scan mode to pass that dialog.NVDA's mouse focusing command (NVDA+shift+M on laptop, NVDA+NumPad Divide on desktop) and the mouse clicks (NumPad Divide and NumPad Multiply, or an actual mouse obviously) are also good things to know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/588176/#p588176 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-06-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam Yeah Steam defaults to some weird ass language if you don't choose english, and you have to hit space on it and verify that it is checked even though it said it was. It's fucking dumb. Also, the language is not one that uses latin alpha chars, nor does it use Cyrillic characters either. Whatever language it is looks like it uses glyphs. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/543853/#p543853 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam Had this issue. Didn't know about the commandline switch though. I had to go into regedit and delete all the steam registry keys. Lang is stored in registry for some reason.That was a big, big, fucking big pain in the ass and it fucking pissed me off. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/543845/#p543845 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-06-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam Ok. Go to your steam short cut, and press on propertys. Now in the editfield go to the end and press space. Then past this line-language Replacing the with your desired language URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/543844/#p543844 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-06-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : unisabbas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam told ya, when i installed steam the english is already selectedbut when the instelation end and i run the app another language appeared in frund of me URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/543782/#p543782 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-06-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : unisabbas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam told ya, when i installed steam the english is already selected URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/543782/#p543782 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-06-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Gamulation via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam instead of pressing enter on the language you want to use, press space on it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/543778/#p543778 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with steam account creation
Re: Problem with steam account creation They do this in multiple places, so even when you install a game, you click play game then go to the bottom and click play now or something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525315/#p525315 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with steam account creation
Re: Problem with steam account creation Thanks for your quick answer. You helped me a lot. The tip to check the bottom of the website was very good. I wouldn't have thought of that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525269/#p525269 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with steam account creation
Re: Problem with steam account creation Nah, Steam has a thing to put stuff on the bottom of the page, so you have to check some other boxes further down before continuing, it is anoying, but better than fiddling with the app. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525194/#p525194 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with steam account creation
Re: Problem with steam account creation You need to use the app. Just use OCR to get around the creation screen. Then logg in and have fun URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/525191/#p525191 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Zachary via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam I installed Steam just yesterday but the app doesn't seem to work with NVDA. I went on the Steam website to try and purchase GTA5 but it says it's in my library. How do I download it to my pc to play it? I'm gonna try to install Liam's mod. I don't know why it says it's in my library since I never purchased it through Steam. I mean, I don't even own a copy for PC. I had a PS3 a long, long time ago and I did have it on there, but like I said that was quite a long time ago. A period of years even URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518954/#p518954 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : the blind cupcake via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam @2 thank you! i'll try it. if you dant see me here, it worked. but if i come back in this topic... the russian monster will be back! hahahaha URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518835/#p518835 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vaibhavbhandari via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam Hi, Don't worry, the same problem happened to me. Now to solve it, go to run dialogue box, type regedit and press enter. Now select, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Valv\Steam\steamglobalNote: After going to all these sections you need to expand them as they will be collapsed or closed in Jaws's case. Now press tab and then arrow down to language and hit enter. Now, in the dialogue box under value data, you'll see the name of the language. Delete that and type English and hit enter. Now close the registry and your problem should be solved. HTH URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518833/#p518833 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : arturminyazev via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam helloi personally activating elements on which the arrow cursor is set with ocr by clicking nvda+left_mouse_click and after that i pressing left mouse click. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518043/#p518043 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : arturminyazev via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam helloi personally activating elements with ocr by clicking nvda+left_mouse_click and after that i pressing left mouse click. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518043/#p518043 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam i use ocr but how do i activate an option using ocr? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518038/#p518038 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam HI.the thing is, steams login is completely inaccesseble, unless you use ocr. you can activate ocr by pressing nvda +r.the dwrite thing didn't work for me eather, so I used the steam login to log in. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518027/#p518027 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : vaibhavbhandari via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam @8, Try logging in by entering your credentials in their respective fields and then you might get a message where you will have to input some code sent by the steam team. I did that and it worked for me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518006/#p518006 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam Right, so I've tested it, and it works. If you did the no-dwrite thing, and it still asks you to login when you run Steam, that mean your credentials doesn't work or something. Mine when I start Steam, it takes me directly to the Steam store. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/518005/#p518005 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam when i open the window it just directs me to steam login, i have no way of checking what icon i am on, i have activated the no-dwrite thing, why cant i navigate URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517948/#p517948 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam thanks so mutch! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517947/#p517947 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-10
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Re: problem with steam You probably could get by just with NVDA's object navigation and screen review commands, but I recommend you install ObjPad as well. If you do that, you can just go to Steam's window, press NVDA+control+tab until you get to Scan mode, and navigate through the window using the arrow keys. For most of Steam you won't need to do this, since it shows up similarly to a webpage, but the menus like Store and Library are only accessible that way.You will also need to remember the commands for focusing a mouse's cursor to something (NVDA+NumPadDivide on desktop layouts) and how to click on things if you don't have a mouse (NumPadDivide and NumPadMultiply). The contents of the Library menu, for example, only show up once the mouse's pointer is on it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517942/#p517942 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam allright, i finaly got it resaulved, but how to use nvda screen viewer or what its called? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517940/#p517940 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-09
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Re: problem with steam Hmm, that's odd. Maybe you're missing a space somewhere? Here's how it should look:"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe" -login CoolUsername TotallyNotABadPasswordAtAll -no-dwriteI think the login command and the no-dwrite one can be in either order; it works for me in both, at least. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517905/#p517905 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam hi.if it doesn't work, try using ocr and try loging in from the steam app itself.if that doesn't work, try getting sighted assistense URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517840/#p517840 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
Re: problem with steam that is what i am doing, but it seems to not be working, after the quote in the target box i type it but it dont work URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517837/#p517837 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: problem with steam
2020-04-09
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Re: problem with steam Make sure you are typing this after the end in the Target edit box (the one you automatically end up in after opening properties), not the Start In one. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/517834/#p517834 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-10-05
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Re: Problem with Steam Ok, Thanks. How does dlc work? If I purchase any dlc, can I access it directly or do I need to put it in a specific folder? I know that Skullgirls have dlc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466331/#p466331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-10-04
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Re: Problem with Steam So is the fact that my password was not entered in quotes the reason NVDA barely reads anything? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466158/#p466158 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Assuming you just kept hitting enter, the game has already been installed. You can go ahead and play it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466152/#p466152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-10-04
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Re: Problem with Steam I finally managed to get Steam to work properly. I got some sighted help with the last step and the program is running perfectly for me now. I have Another question, do I need to install games to play them? I already had a game purchased and it was placed in my library and I could install the game. The problem was that it didn´t read out the options on the page when I tried to install the game. I can still play it though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/466141/#p466141 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Not necessarily, provided you run Steam from the desktop shortcut. This does mean that you will want to take Steam out of your autostarting applications, which in Windows 10 is in the settings sections rather than msconfig. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/465372/#p465372 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-30
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Re: Problem with Steam Do I need to login to Steam again after restarting? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/465318/#p465318 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Choose beta software update. I assume you have clicked the change button. If you are really unsure at this step, get sighted help as this is the last step before restarting Steam. It is only unfortunate that you don't have this in your location, as over here we can now make 5 minute calls to a service called Aira for free. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464511/#p464511 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Choose beta software update. I assume you have clicked the change button. If you are really unsure at this step, get sighted help as this is the last step before restarting Steam. It is only unfortunate that you aren't in the U.S. as over here we can now make 5 minute calls to a service called Aira for free. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464511/#p464511 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Choose beta software update. I assume you have clicked the change button. If you are really unsure at this step, get sighted help as this is the last step before restarting Steam. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464511/#p464511 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-26
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Re: Problem with Steam Ok, I´ve got so far as to click the tab beta participation. I then get brought to a page where I´m supposed to choose a beta. Which one should I choose from the list? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464509/#p464509 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-25
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Re: Problem with Steam Ok, I´ve found the settings tab. I see different options when I click the settings tab. I get beta participation as an option. What should I do next? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464364/#p464364 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam For whatever reason, screen review doesn't reveal much, but ocr presents a perfect view. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464322/#p464322 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-25
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Re: Problem with Steam jack wrote:If you're lucky, clicking the text labeled Steam in the top of the ocr window should do the trick. If not, just get someone to click it for you. The fact that you are logged in is a step in the right direction, now you just need to get the beta.Why use ocr if nvda screen review also allows you to click on a tab? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464265/#p464265 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam If you're lucky, clicking the text labeled Steam in the top of the ocr window should do the trick. If not, just get someone to click it for you. The fact that you are logged in is a step in the right direction, now you just need to get the beta. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464070/#p464070 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-24
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Re: Problem with Steam So I´ve reinstalled the app in English and have done the login progres. BUt now, I don´t see an option for settings. I see an option for help, but nothing else. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/464041/#p464041 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-23
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Re: Problem with Steam I´ve reinstalled the app in English, but I still can´t log in. I don´t get automatically logged in. My username is aldready filled out, but not my password. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463559/#p463559 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-23
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Re: Problem with Steam Yes, I´m running Windows 10. SO I have to reinstall the app in English? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463445/#p463445 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Yes, but your autologin in Steam properties should have brought you to Steam guard. You really need to reinstall STeam in English, as that's the only language available to NVDA when using Windows 10 OCR. If you're using Windows 10 that is. If not and you're using the Tesseract-based ocr application, you can set the language in OCR settings. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463355/#p463355 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-22
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Re: Problem with Steam DO you have to login to Steam via the app in order to get to the settings Icon? I Think I need sighted help to log in because my screen reader doesn´t read out the text on the fields where I need to write my password. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463316/#p463316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam 1. Put your Steam language in English if you can. Part of the reason you aren't getting ocr is because your ocr is set to English recognition.2. It's harder for me to get settings to appear via ocr, so you might need sighted assistance. IT is under the app itself, not the website. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463219/#p463219 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-21
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Re: Problem with Steam How do I find settings? Is it on the webpage or in the program that I installed? I´m using a Swedish program, so the language might be different. But I Think the buttions are the same. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463200/#p463200 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-21
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Re: Problem with Steam Mishko wrote:I have another problem though. When I want to pay on steam, I can't do it. I get master, visa and a few other options (no paypal). When I enter the credit card number, I can't find the field to enter its cvv. I find it, but when I click, Steam says "unknown" and the review cursor doesn't help. When I log in from the browser, my cart is empty. It has the item I want to buy only if I log in via the steam program.Best!I make all my purchases through the browser. just add the product to the cart directly on the site. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463143/#p463143 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-21
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Re: Problem with Steam jack wrote:It's under settings/account/beta participation. You want to make sure beta update is checked. This you will undoubtedly need sighted help for as I haven't been able to get this to appear in most ocr scans.hello. today i successfully enabled steam beta with out sited help.in settings with nvda screen vewe. under beta access i clicked change button, a window popd-up,in this window under beta testing string are sum form of drop-down list. click with mouse on it and change to beta, then press OK, then press restart. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463142/#p463142 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam It's under settings/account/beta participation. You want to make sure beta update is checked. This you will undoubtedly need sighted help for as I haven't been able to get this to appear in most ocr scans. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463136/#p463136 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam It's under settings/account/beta participation. You want to make sure beta update is checked. This you will undoubtedly need sighted help for as I haven't been able to get this to appear in settings.It's under account settings URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463136/#p463136 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-21
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Re: Problem with Steam How do I get the beta? Is it inside the program? Is it some kind of buttion to press? I´ll see if I can get a sighted person to help me. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463134/#p463134 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Get some sighted help to enable the beta. You'll get an accessible webview of your library then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/463029/#p463029 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-20
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Re: Problem with Steam I still get no text read out on Steam. I´ve put my password in quotes and written -no-dwrite but nothing happens. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462968/#p462968 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mishko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam I don't think my password is there under the quotes, yet when I open Steam I log in without any problems.Jack, is there a way to resolve my payment issue described in post 7?Best! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462921/#p462921 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam No and no. This is how it should look."C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe" -no-dwrite -login yourusername "yourpassword"You do actually need to put your password in quotes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462855/#p462855 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-19
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Re: Problem with Steam I tried Writing dwrite and my username and password, but nothing happened. I wrote dwrite my username my passsword. Is this correct? I also get the message that I need to be administrator to perform the Changes to the properties. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462848/#p462848 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mishko via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam No, just write it in the properties dialog of the Steam icon on your desktop.1. Find it and enter its properties.2. On the first edit field, where there is the path to its executable, go to the end of that string, press the spacebar and type dwrite -login username password, where username corresponds to your username and your password, of course, to your password.That's it.I have another problem though. When I want to pay on steam, I can't do it. I get master, visa and a few other options (no paypal). When I enter the credit card number, I can't find the field to enter its cvv. I find it, but when I click, Steam says "unknown" and the review cursor doesn't help. When I log in from the browser, my cart is empty. It has the item I want to buy only if I log in via the steam program.Best! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462842/#p462842 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-19
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Re: Problem with Steam How do I know if the -no-dwrite switch is turned on? DO I need some help from a sighted person to do that? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462822/#p462822 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-19
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Re: Problem with Steam I did that, and the content is read, but if I try to click on an option from the system tray menu by using the review cursor, nothing happens. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462805/#p462805 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam For starters, -no-dwrite needs to be switched on in the shortcut properties, and your login parameters need to be entered first. There's a good modernized article on this in the articles room. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462804/#p462804 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
2019-09-19
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Re: Problem with Steam Where to look for it? I ask because I seem to have similar problems. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462742/#p462742 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Problem with Steam
Re: Problem with Steam Get some sighted help and grab the beat release of Steam. Unfortunately, it's the only way to get the beta that has the accessible library layout that reads out like a webpage. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/462698/#p462698 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
