Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Perhaps so, but if you say one pissant among many, then everything is contemptable, thus removing the target. While you could make the argument that I just attacked the human species at a whole, I don't know if the same can be said regarding caccio72. I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, but when I was writing that, it wasn't in my mind to attack him. Also, as you have cited on multiple occasions, you take intent into consideration when considering how to deal out punishment. If you recognize that I was trying to be sharp without attacking, maybe you could downgrade this to a caution instead? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621819/#p621819 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal In pretty much every interaction I've had with the word "pissant", it's not just denoting insignificance. It's pejorative, also indicating that whatever you're describing is contemptible.Thus, personal attack.That said, I recognize that you were trying to be sharp without trying to straight-up attack him. Maybe this is regional/cultural? But seriously, I have never, not once, seen someone use that word without attaching negativity to it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621818/#p621818 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal I've known people with Asperger's, and the thing about it is, they know they're not up to par as far as their peers with this type of thing, and are usually willing to accept guidance. Also, I think they've collapsed it into ASD, though no clue why. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621810/#p621810 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SirBadger via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal after reading the topic as it has progressed, like jayde i am torn between thinking this guy is a troll or possibly has undiagnosed asberger's.quick thing i found from an article i just had a look at:"Asperger syndrome, also known as Asperger's, is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, along with restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests."i'm not going to bore people by posting the hole article but i think this kind of fits the bill. i'm not a specialist though, i am just pointing out a possibility. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621808/#p621808 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @Jayde I contest that. Calling someone a pissant isn't a personal attack, it's just another way of saying they're a spec of dust in the universe. What makes the universe what it is is the collection of all of those specs of from things unmade or things decayed. It's not in the same vein as calling someone stupid or an idiot. My intent there was to say that he's one fish in a sea of other fish and if that one fish is behaving badly and contributes nothing, there are plenty of others to take its place. Maybe saying he's a pissant is a more aggressive way, and that's what I wanted, but I don't see how it strays into the line of a personal attack. Maybe I could see that argument if I just called him a pissant without quantifying it; however, saying he's a pissant in a sea of other pissants, I feel, takes enough of the directness out of it so as to render the phrase as just short of a personal attack.@Nolan just stop trying to police the forum, it doesn't work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621780/#p621780 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Moderation:Granny CheeseWheel, consider this an official warning. Too far, bro. Too far. I'm referring in specific to this:GCW wrote:"Let me tell you, you're a pissant in a larger see of other pissants that collectively form something, but you by yourself, you contribute nothing"Personal attack territory.Your frustration is fine. Calling the behaviour out is harsh, but also fine. Calling him a pissant is far enough that you ought to have known better. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621772/#p621772 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Everyone should just let this go.He'll either grow up or he won't. No wall of text will make any difference as regards that.Nothing said here will change anything.No communities are going to carve out dudebro-specific exceptions for this guy. And, to the original concern, I doubt anyone is going to just pre-emptively ban without a reason. And, if they do, you know what? You'll just deal, and move on. I can't post anything to Reddit without it being flagged as spam automatically. Maybe I'll contact Reddit support about that someday, but there are other communities on the internet, and trying to figure out why one excludes me is a poor use of my time. The internet is a big place, even with respect to the blindiesphere. If the intent is to behave better, the community here doesn't need to sign off on anything. Just shut up and go do it already.Otherwise, this thread is just farting in the wind. Stop it. Move on, have another cup of coffee, go sit out on the porch and enjoy the nice weather. Nothing good will come from continuing to post here, no matter what you believe your intentions are or what you want. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621770/#p621770 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal He's made an enemy in me. I won't break the rules and get banned for him, but if I ever come across someone who I think is him in any of the games I play, that person will meet their untimely demise over and over and over, as the rules of said game allow or not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621765/#p621765 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @Caccio72You're really acting like an impatient child here. It's getting old.Also, you seem to keep overestimating how much people actually care about your situation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621763/#p621763 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @Caccio72You're really acting like an impatient child here. It's getting old.Also, you seem to keep overestimating how much people actually care. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621763/#p621763 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Alright, you know what, Mr. nice guy just hung up his hat coz now you done pissed me off. Who are you to think you can come on these communities and act like that. Let me tell you, you're a pissant in a larger see of other pissants that collectively form something, but you by yourself, you contribute nothing to the whole. The way you acted was fucking bullshit all around. Like we've all been saying, there's no excuse for it, none.You wanna keep it up, have fun for as long as you last. I hope you keep on keeping on and get banned from every online game you go on. You've earned it. Guess what, karma's a bitch. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621762/#p621762 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @Caccio72You're really acting like an impatient child here. It's getting old. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621763/#p621763 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Just read that god damn post before responding to it please, thank you! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621757/#p621757 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Really? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621751/#p621751 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jesus christ, I just promised in my previous post, so one post above yours, how I will do my best not to (unintentionally of course) annoy the community of the next game I plan to play, and now you are saying the exact opposite of it?I just added the word "unintentionally" to clarify, that despite of the frequent negative outcome, it was never my intention to do so. Jesus man, read before you respond, pretty please! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621742/#p621742 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal So you keep coming here and trying to justify this behavior; however, it simply is not justifiable. Period, done, end of discussion. The one thing I will say is that if you humble yourself in front of the community and promise to do better, you won't get any judgement. If you do, they can fuck right off, because anyone who tries to place judgement on someone who is actively trying to improve is a dick. But this requires that you take total and complete responsibility over your actions, and stop looking for a way to excuse them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621731/#p621731 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Ok, will try it then again, especially since you said it has evolbed a lot...I remember it to be a pretty simple zed shooter back then...And no annoying the community, no matter how unintentionally, I promise. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621692/#p621692 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal It is still alive and kicking and it has a relatively large community around it. It is payed now and if you played since the subscription system was implemented your account might stil be up.I have played the game since its beginning, being on and off and I am impressed at how well it has evolved, it is perhaps the most balanced online audio game we have right now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621659/#p621659 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal nah swamp is still living URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621651/#p621651 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal It's amazing how there are now even more people convinced, that I actually enjoy doing all this here...You really think I wouldn't much rather play some cool online game instead, one which suits my quite sophisticated expectations, one where I would compete with its community instead of discussing my behavior with you here?But this discussion is necessary to me exactly to be able to play online games without the constant risk, danger of bans and permabans in the future...As for Swamp, god heaven, is that game still running?I remember playing it for a while years ago, but when I checked it out last time it seemed to be down...and it sounded like it's permanent... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621646/#p621646 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Yeah, feel free to taunt and pwn the zombies all day if you want to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621623/#p621623 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Have you tried swamp? I suggest you take a look at it since it is an online game and it might keep you busy for a while. There is very little PVP in the game but there are lots of zombies to kill, lots of items to get, quests to complete and a leveling system, this should satisfy your need to have something to aim for constantly. It's a paid game but it's worth every penny. Also, you will be fighting zombies so you wont feel compelled to attack other players in the chat.It is not that difficult to get a grasp on how the game works and you can always ask for help in the chat box, I will be happy to help if you catch me online.This is just a suggestion, but deffinitely worth a try, you might like it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621609/#p621609 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal I don't think he's trolling, I think he's just incapable of properly taking responsibility, and wants to drag us all down his mental justification rabbithole with him. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621606/#p621606 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal My god, this is still going? You honestly think the OP is looking for help at this point? Don't fool yourselves, you're all being trolled.Move on folks, nothing to see here other than a bored middle aged man trying to get some attention and people taking the bait. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621601/#p621601 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Sure there are many other things I can theoretically still do as blind, and I am periodically doing the most of those you mentioned too, it's just that I cannot fill the most of my vast spare time with those, none of them can keep me occupied, provide me fun and entertainment as often, and for as long time as online games can, which I play in order to satisfy my competitive urge to compete with other, living human beings, and prove myself to them, but also to myself by performing well, and make achievements, successes I can be proud of.Again, even in cases those are only minor, less significant achievements and successes, they still always make my day, boost my morale and self-esteem, so generally improve my mood for some time, and this is the effect I cannot think of anything proper to replace with.And also true, no one actually forbids me to keep playing online games right away, but as 1st, there are only very few left I am still not banned, or chased away from, and as 2nd, even those few remaining are not my favorite ones anymore, so they also cannot keep me occupied for a longer time than maybe 1-2 hours daily, and even that only in case I am in the right mood to play them at all, which is not too often, since, as I said, those are not my primary, favorite game choices, but some mostly mood-dependent alternatives, which I play only in cases, situations when I feel in a specific way, meaning I play them only till that specific, temporary mood of mine lasts.So those cannot be compared to my truely favorite online games, which I was gladly playing during the most of my vast spare time, for I almost always had the mood for them...but yeah, those were/are mostly exactly those games I got either banned/permabanned, or (in less painful case) chased away from by now.Edit:Wayfar was on the right track to become such a favorite online game of mine, I was really so happy, so excited about it, could play it over many hours daily, for something interesting was always going on there, unexpected new things always kept happening...but we all know how fast I screwed it up, and ended the fun for myself there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621591/#p621591 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Sure there are many other things I can theoretically still do as blind, and I am periodically doing the most of those you mentioned too, it's just that I cannot fill the most of my vast spare time with those, none of them can keep me occupied, provide me fun and entertainment as often, and for as long time as online games can, which I play in order to satisfy my competitive urge to compete with other, living human beings, and prove myself to them, but also to myself by performing well, and make achievements, successes I can be proud of.Again, even in cases those are only minor, less significant achievements and successes, they still always make my day, boost my morale and self-esteem, so generally improve my mood for some time, and this is the effect I cannot think of anything proper to replace with.And also true, no one actually forbids me to keep playing online games right away, but as 1st, there are only very few left I am still not banned, or chased away from, and as 2nd, even those few remaining are not my favorite ones anymore, so they also cannot keep me occupied for a longer time than maybe 1-2 hours daily, and even that only in case I am in the right mood to play them at all, which is not too often, since, as I said, those are not my primary, favorite game choices, but some mostly mood-dependent alternatives, which I play only in cases, situations when I feel in a specific way, meaning I play them only till that specific, temporary mood of mine lasts.So those cannot be compared to my truely favorite online games, which I was gladly playing during the most of my vast spare time, for I almost always had the mood for them...but yeah, those were/are mostly exactly those games I got either banned/permabanned, or (in less painful case) chased away from by now.Edit:Wayfar was on the right track to become such a favorite online game of mine, I was really so happy, so excited about it, could play it over many hours daily, something interesting was always going on there, unexpected new things always kept happening...but we all know how fast I screwed it up, and ended the fun for myself there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621591/#p621591 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Sure there are many other things I can theoretically still do as blind, and I am periodically doing the most of those you mentioned too, it's just that I cannot fill the most of my vast spare time with those, none of them can keep me occupied, provide me fun and entertainment as often, and for as long time as online games can, which I play in order to satisfy my competitive urge to compete with other, living human beings, and prove myself to them, but also to myself by performing well, and make achievements, successes I can be proud of.Again, even in cases those are only minor, less significant achievements and successes, they still always make my day, boost my morale and self-esteem, so generally improve my mood for some time, and this is the effect I cannot think of anything proper to replace with.And also true, no one actually forbids me to keep playing online games right away, but as 1st, there are only very few left I am still not banned, or chased away from, and as 2nd, even those few remaining are not my favorite ones anymore, so they also cannot keep me occupied for a longer time than maybe 1-2 hours daily, and even that only in case I am in the right mood to play them at all, which is not too often, since, as I said, those are not my primary, favorite game choices, but some mostly mood-dependent alternatives, which I play only in cases, situations when I feel in a specific way, meaning I play them only till that specific, temporary mood of mine lasts.So those cannot be compared to my truely favorite online games, which I was gladly playing during the most of my vast spare time, for I almost always had the mood for them...but yeah, those were/are mostly exactly those games I got either banned/permabanned, or (in less painful case) chased away from by now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621591/#p621591 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Boo15mario via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @83 I too am blind, I have several things you could do while you take a brake from the online world. Reading books, playing offline games, Writing about something, listening to music, watching movies, and a thing that might be my new favorite hobby two of them cooking and playing eletronic games. Heck you could take a walk around your place. I really hope you can leave your house eventually soon to be able to do somethings out their. Like another poster said, that they are younger than you I too am. I am in my early 20s. I have lots of experience with life stuff like this as I have seen how some people acted on here and my own experiences I have gained over the years from doing different events with other people. I sure still have a lot to learn ahead of me but, most people of my age don't have the common sense like folks like us should have. I will say this I don't feel I need to spend buckets of cash every month to show off to my friends, I don't want to be that ritch guy who has what seems to be unlimited money. I hope you have a better understanding of where I come from. I would not take cash from just anyone I would only do that from people I have taken the time to know a bit before doing things like that. I will go another step from their, I don't let people enter my house unless i have spent a few hours with them getting to know them better. I really hope you can take a rest from the net. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621414/#p621414 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal There are tons of off-line games that you can play… But more importantly, I never said you had to quit online games. I said you need to improve your behavior in online games. You need to get control over your emotions and fight back against your urge to say some of the things that are getting you into this much trouble. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621407/#p621407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Ok, I won't fight anyone anymore, I will make no more futile attempts, I have given up, and backing off to plan, consider my future behavior in online communications- during the next few days.The problem now is, that I fear I have no idea how, what to fill my vast spare time with.I mean, I cannot take a longer trip like Mario, to get away from all, for not only I am blind, who cannot take longer trips without escort, but due this covid pandemy, we are not allowed to leave our country, nor take other longer trips, unless it is due a truely urgent matter or situation.And without online games to play, without their communities to talk to, which are both my primary activity and entertainment, I have no idea what to fill my vast spare time with, while just sitting idle at home... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621398/#p621398 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Look at the header before any of his posts, does it say moderator or admininstrator?@Caccio72 Well I guess this is a damned if you do and damned if you don't type of situation. You refuse to modify your behavior, but you refuse to stay away from online communities. Have fun getting banned from everywhere then.@JayJay I've thought of that. But apart from one idiosyncrasy, I'm not sure. It's inconclusive imo.@Jayde Even if he is suffering from some sort of intellectual disability, which I'm not buying either, at some point, the behavior has to be stopped. I mean, let's say you have a low functioning autistic child who likes to climb. One night, they climb out of the window and escape into the night. Luckily, police officers find the child and bring them back to their parents. Would the parents just take this in stride and do nothing about it? One would certainly hope not. Even if the child didn't understand why all of the sudden, their windows have bars on them, and why a loud sound goes off if they go near them at night, something has to be done to stop the behavior, because it puts the child in harm's way.The same is true in this case. If Caccio72 has mental deficits, even if he never understands why, someone will have to deal with his behavior. They won't have the same control as the parents in the example, but they will be able to banish him from their communities. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621393/#p621393 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Let me try to bring some personal experience to the table. I know I'm significantly younger than you and don't have nearly as much life experience, but just hear me out, Caccio.I'm an angry man. Many of you here will know that from seeing my past posts. I have a lot of unresolved issues and I am a miserable human being. I have issues with a lot of community members, and as a result of my unbridled anger I have come after people who don't even deserve it, like Jayde or Dark.I've realized over the years that if I'm ever going to get anywhere in life, I needed to learn to control my emotions. Because I have learned that skill, it has improved my life at least a little bit, and I believe I now have a good standing with people I previously didn't. Granted, they might have opinions that I simply cannot vibe with, but rather than get angry with them over every little thing they might say that I don't like, I disagree with them in my head and move on. Why? Because what is anger going to resolve? Absolutely nothing. Hell, I've been finding a lot of posts from said people lately that I completely agree with, and for those posts that I don't, it's mostly just because of execution. It has great side-effects as well. Since I'm not fighting with people all the time like I used to, I can laugh and joke with them and talk to them the same way I do with everyone else, and it actually feels genuine. It doesn't feel like I'm putting on an act and it makes me feel better about people, and I'm sure it makes people feel better about me, too.I haven't really changed though. I'm still mostly the same person I was even a year ago. I'm still angry, I'm still hurting most days, and I'm still miserable. It's something you might not have noticed though, because I learned to control myself despite how I'm feeling. It's not even because of this forum, really. I'm just not satisfied with my life and how it's turning out for me personally. However, I can't let that dictate how I interact with others, because at the end of the day it'll only result in making me and whoever is involved feel worse when it's all said and done.It's hard to change how you interact with others (trust me, I know all too well) but you have to. Don't object, don't complain, and definitely do not fight this. Buckle down and learn to control yourself. Trust me; it will make your life a hell of a lot easier both online and personally, and it'll make everyone elses lives a lot better, too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621387/#p621387 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dan_Gero via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Let me try to bring some personal experience to the table. I know I'm significantly younger than you and don't have nearly as much life experience, but just hear me out, Caccio.I'm an angry man. Many of you here will know that from seeing my past posts. I have a lot of unresolved issues and I am a miserable human being. I have issues with a lot of community members, and as a result of my unbridled anger I have come after people who don't even deserve it, like Jayde or Dark. I've realized over the years that if I'm ever going to get anywhere in life, I needed to learn to control my emotions. Because I have learned that skill, it has improved my life at least a little bit, and I believe I now have a good standing with people I previously didn't. Granted, they might have opinions that I simply cannot vibe with, but rather than get angry with them over every little thing they might say that I don't like, I disagree with them in my head and move on. Why? Because what is anger going to resolve? Absolutely nothing. Hell, I've been finding a lot of posts from said people lately that I completely agree with, and for those posts that I don't, it's mostly just because of execution. It has great side-effects as well. Since I'm not fighting with people all the time like I used to, I can laugh and joke with them and talk to them the same way I do with everyone else, and it actually feels genuine. It doesn't feel like I'm putting on an act and it makes me feel better about people, and I'm sure it makes people feel better about me, too. I haven't really changed though. I'm still mostly the same person I was even a year ago. I'm still angry, I'm still hurting most days, and I'm still miserable. It's something you might not have noticed though, because I learned to control myself despite how I'm feeling. It's not even because of this forum, really. I'm just not satisfied with my life and how it's turning out for me personally. However, I can't let that dictate how I interact with others, because at the end of the day it'll only result in making me and whoever is involved feel worse when it's all said and done. It's hard to change how you interact with others (trust me, I know all too well) but you have to. Don't object, don't complain, and definitely do not fight this. Buckle down and learn to control yourself. Trust me; it will make your life a hell of a lot easier both online and personally, and it'll make everyone elses lives a lot better, too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621387/#p621387 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Boo15mario via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal I have no idea how Dark is not a mod anymore. I did still took my laptop on my trip, I would only use it for business related stuff. I did not install any games on my laptop for that reasons so I would not be able to play games while i am on their. Reguarding the need for human contact I have friends on discord, and I have meet a few new friends on my trip that is going to make things easier for me when I move their to start my training at a center I am going to be heading over in exactly two weeks. Only games can do only so much for you, I have been taking a brake from onling games for a while because it was not going to be any good sitting here at my computer all day playing the same game for months. Once I start training I will not have as much time to play games but, I will be able to do that during the weekend or the evening. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621379/#p621379 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal What, Dark is no audiogames mod anymore?May I ask why, what happened?As for the internet, it would be damn hard for me to just simply get away from it, for as I repeatedly stated, online games and their communications are my primary, leading, favorite entertainment, so I have absolutely no idea what to replace them with, especially in these covid times, when it's better one not to leave his home even if he wants it... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621373/#p621373 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : JayJay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Hmm, doesn't his useage of the word, "For", and general deffensiveness remind you of someone? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621365/#p621365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : JayJay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Hmmm, doesn't his "For", and his general defensiveness remind y'all of someone? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621365/#p621365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal He's not even a mod anymore home skillet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621357/#p621357 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Boo15mario via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @75 first of all Dark can't do anything now as he is not a Mod of this place. I had to jump in 75 post later. It looks like you need help. As others had said you should take a brake from the net for a while. I whent away from my computer for a few days to take a brake from the net and I was able to do something that could change my life for the better as far as being able to live on my own with out any help from my family. When I was their I felt a lot less bord and I was able to find something I can get excided about that I have not felt in a long time. Sometimes it is a good idea to leave the internet for a few days to a week to figure out what you want to do regarding getting help for your issues. As a mater of fact I am going to be moving in a few weeks. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621356/#p621356 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Well...Defender...if this is what you are convinced of...and you share the view of those, who are convinced of me starting this whole thread, this whole discussion merely to troll, annoy, or to seek for attention from this community...then Dark, please close this thread, with such reactions it is totally pointless, and all my efforts were totally in vain.So let's end this another futile attempt of mine then.Just a last note:I haven't lied a god damn single word, literarily none, I stopped lying both irl and on the internet ever since I turned 25 or so, so ever since I mentally totally grew up, for I simply have no need of it, nor would my over-straight nature, or my conscience ever allow it to me.And this is something I am damn proud of, believe it or not, I never lied for like 23 years, not a single word, not even in situations when I actually should have, for the sake of mutual benefit, to avoid troubles, to make piece, good relations, or friendship.Now Dark, please, close this thread, unfortunately it was only partially successful, for it seems many people here don't truely, seriously want to help me solve my problem, while some even believe I am only trolling and attention seeking with this whole effort.AND MY MOST SINCERE APPOLOGIES TO ALL THOSE, WHO DON'T BELONG TO ANY OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED 2 GROUPS, BUT STILL FELT ANNOYED BY THIS THREAD OF MINE. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621353/#p621353 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Homie, you trippin. I didn't even know you until now. I mean, I did get in a fight with you and got banned over it like 4 or so years ago, but your name didn't stay in my mind. So how am I following you around? I have nothing to associate you from one game to the next. I don't even recall a character called Ishtaar from any other game other than wayfar. You seem delusional. Get some help. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621348/#p621348 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Granny:People like Nolan and you kept appearing in almost every online game I played for a longer time, "warning" their community of me being like this, being like that, doing this in online game A, doing that in online game B, then trying to convince them how is the best solution to get rid of me asap, for I only visit their game with the sole aim, intention to troll, annoy, provoke their community, for I am this and that sick person, who actually enjoys doing it...etc, blahblah.And after witnessing this in many online games I played, in many online communities I was a part of, as you can see, even here, you guys wonder why I have the "being followed and discredited in online communities" paranoia?Again, no doubt, my online communication behavior is very wrong, and it really must be changed, but also no doubt, that people like those 2 are also doing their best to make my problems, my situation even much worse, in each single online community they appear. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621343/#p621343 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal The last part of post 58 is the only honest thing you've said in this thread Caccio. Please take your own words to heart and cut out the excuses. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621336/#p621336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal The last part of post 58 is the only honest thing you've said in this thread Caccio. Please take your own words to heart. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621336/#p621336 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal You will not be vindicated, so just stop. You are obviously unwilling to do what is necessary to fix yourself, so do us all a favor and stay offline. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621331/#p621331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Or hell, just ask Dark, he was here ever since I joined audiogames.net:Dark, do I look like some troll, some perverse maniac to you, who is coming here merely with the aim to annoy and provoke other community members?Or do you consider me for a kind of attention whore, who comes here merely for seeking attention, and not to search for, ask about, and discuss games?Ok, I admit, I do have this online game communication problem for a longer time, I even told you some examples of it in the past, and even complained about certain cases...but do you agree that my primary intention here is to find suitable games for myself, for my quite sophisticated game expectations? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621329/#p621329 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Honestly, my best advice would be to never go online again, because you can't handle it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621328/#p621328 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jayde, it is indeed, exactly that 2nd case.And it is true, I am trying, but still failing to change, exactly due what you also said, it indeed is damn hard in my age, for shorter time I sometimes manage to hold myself back, but then I still "fall back" again, my competitive and overstraight nature is just too strong, lived with it for such a damn long time...this is why my problems, troubles keep returning, repeating over and over again, this is why I keep trying to ask for help from communities I come well along with, and this is why I am failing, but at least keep trying, I try to do my best, or at least I really wish to...Knowing this, it pisses me off like hell when people like Nolan appear, and start suggesting to the community how my true, sheer intention is to provoke, annoy, troll them, however he calls it, as if it would provide some sick type of satisfaction to a passionate veteran gamer like myself.Just please check my posts here in audiogames from the past, many, many years behind, the whole history of theirs, do they look like written by someone who actually doesn't even care about games, but merely wants, tries to provoke, annoy, piss off this community, the one he came so well along with, over so many years?Or would you really consider me for someone, (after reading some of my game related posts from the past), who comes here only to seek for attention, for he has nothing else, nothing better to do during his (vast) spare time?Well NO, I would like to play online games during that vast spare time of mine, and finding proper ones for my sophisticated taste and expectations is already hard enough, and then, after I finally do, (or you here find one for me), I am getting banned of them due my unacceptable communication behavior...well damnit, I am desperately trying to make an end to that, this is all! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621314/#p621314 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jayde, it is indeed, exactly that 2nd case.And it is true, I am trying, but still failing to change, exactly due what you also said, it indeed is damn hard in my age, for shorter time I sometimes manage to hold myself back, but then I still "fall back" again, my competitive and overstraight nature is just too strong, lived with it for such a damn long time...this is why my problems, troubles keep returning, repeating over and over again, this is why I keep trying to ask for help from communities I come well along with, and this is why I am failing, but at least keep trying, I try to do my best, or at least I really wish to...Knowing this, it pisses me off like hell when people like Nolan appear, and start suggesting to the community how my true, sheer intention is to provoke, annoy, troll them, however he calls it, as if it would provide some sick type of satisfaction to a passionate veteran gamer like myself.Just please check my posts here in audiogames from the past, many, many years behind, the whole history of theirs, do they look like written by someone who actually doesn't even care about games, but merely wants, tries to provoke, annoy, piss off this community, the one he came so well along with, over so many years?Or would you really consider me for someone, (after reading some of my game related posts from the past), who comes here only to seek for attention, for he has nothing else, nothing better to do during his (vast) spare time?Well NO, I would like to play online games in that vast spare time of mine, and finding proper ones for my sophisticated taste and expectations is already hard enough, and then, after I finally do, (or you here find one for me), I am getting banned of them due my unacceptable communication behavior...well damnit, I am desperately trying to make an end to that, this is all! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621314/#p621314 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jayde, it is indeed, exactly that 2nd case.And it is true, I am trying, but still failing to change, exactly due what you also said, it indeed is damn hard in my age, for shorter time I sometimes manage to hold myself back, but then I still "fall back" again, my competitive and overstraight nature is just too strong, lived with it for such a damn long time...this is why my problems, troubles keep returning, repeating over and over again, this is why I keep trying to ask for help from communities I come well along with, and this is why I am failing, but at least keep trying, I try to do my best, or at least I really wish to...Knowing this, it pisses me off like hell when people like Nolan appear, and start suggesting to the community how my true, sheer intention is to provoke, annoy, troll them, however he calls it, as if it would provide some sick type of satisfaction to a passionate veteran gamer like myself.Just please check my posts here in audiogames from the past, many, many years behind, the whole history of theirs, do they look like written by someone who actually doesn't even care about games, but merely wants, tries to provoke, annoy, piss off this community, the one he came so well along over so many years?Or would you really consider me for someone, (after reading some of my game related posts from the past), who comes here only to seek for attention, for he has nothing else, nothing better to do during his (vast) spare time?Well NO, I would like to play online games in that vast spare time of mine, and finding proper ones for my sophisticated taste and expectations is already hard enough, and then, after I finally do, (or you here find one for me), I am getting banned of them due my unacceptable communication behavior...well damnit, I am desperately trying to make an end to that, this is all! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621314/#p621314 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jayde, it is indeed, exactly that 2nd case.And it is true, I am trying, but still failing to change, exactly due what you also said, it indeed is damn hard in my age, for shorter time I sometimes manage to hold myself back, but then I still "fall back" again, my competitive and overstraight nature is just too strong, lived with it for such a damn long time...this is why my problems, troubles keep returning, repeating over and over again, this is why I keep trying to ask for help from communities I come well along with, and this is why I am failing, but at least keep trying, I try to do my best, or at least I really wish to...Knowing this, it pisses me off like hell when people like Nolan appear, and start suggesting to the community how my true, sheer intention is to provoke, annoy, troll them, however he calls it, as if it would provide some sick type of satisfaction to a passionate veteran gamer like myself.Just please check my posts here in audiogames from the past, many, many years behind, the whole history of theirs, do they look like written by someone who actually doesn't even care about games, but merely tries to provoke and annoy this community? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621314/#p621314 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal @66 This individual understands emotional dynamics well enough to craft victim narratives and paranoid persecution complexes where they themselves are always wronged, but not well enough to understand how their own behaviors affect things? In other words, they're capable of crafting complex stories that sound mildly convincing at first blush, but somehow those complex narratives always make them out as the victim?Sorry, not buying it, particularly as someone pointed out earlier in this thread that such a thing has already happened time and time again. Assuming all of that is true, then this person needs a therapist, not a random internet forum. Not a judgment call--I've needed therapists from time to time as well. But a random internet forum cannot be a substitute for necessary help, and so blatantly treating it like one time and time again just harms the entire community. I live in a low-income housing co-op that for a very long time tried to make excuses for harmful members' behaviors. But their refusal or inability to get help only harmed the entire community. It was made even worse by the community being a cooperative, whose values include taking care of members and other principles that only served to nurture the bad behavior. I'm cool with helping out where we can, but at some point we have to acknowledge that this is the wrong place, and that this kind of "help" only drags the entire community a little lower.And, for the record, just in case it absolutely positively sincerely needs to be stated...I'm not following this person around from game to game. Christ, I'm too busy writing them, plus all the tools and libraries to support same. I haven't played a MUD in years. Hell, this is probably the most invested I've been in *any* online community in a long while. I'm just so tired of seeing this community circle the drain that sometimes I can't help but chime in when it so gleefully hoists the sails and sets course directly for it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621313/#p621313 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jesus, how can certain people be this malicious toward someone, who they "know", actually merely encountered only in an online forum???One thing he is right with though, this is not the 1st place, not the 1st community I am asking to help improve my online communication behavior, and I tried to listen to people's advices, but obviously kept failing at it, I still keep doing something wrong, very wrong, but I feel I am coming close to the solution, getting close to discover, determine what it exactly is...this is another reason for me to keep on trying, and another proof of my intentions and efforts being deadly serious.So please, for haven sake, do not fall for his provocations, but keep helping me in this effort of mine, for online games, and their communications are really my primary, favorite type of activity and entertainment, especially since my vision loss, for I barely ever left my apartment since then, even before these god damn covid endangered times. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621306/#p621306 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jesus, how can certain people be this malicious toward someone, who they "know", actually merely encountered only in an online forum???One thing he is right with though, this is not the 1st place, not the 1st community I am asking to help improve my online communication behavior, and I tried to listen to people's advices, but obviously kept failing at it, I still keep doing something wrong, very wrong, but I feel I am coming close to the solution, getting close to discover, determine what it exactly is...this is another reason for me to keep on trying, and another proof of my intentions and efforts being deadly serious.So please, for haven sake, do not fall for his provocations, but keep helping me in this effort of mine, for online games, and their communications are really my primary, favorite type of entertainment, especially since my vision loss, for I barely ever left my apartment since then, even before these god damn covid endangered times. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621306/#p621306 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal That is exactly what it means. And yes, that is as intended.The more time goes by, the more I am convinced that there is something legitimately wrong here. That's not mockery either, just observation.This could just be epic trolling, but it could also be a fundamental inability to understand social cues and their importance and relevancy.God damn my social work background right now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621307/#p621307 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @jade wait, I always assumed when you give two options, and use latter and former to note position, that former was first and latter was second? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621304/#p621304 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : targor via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal There we go again. That's the kind of behavior everyone was talking about. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621302/#p621302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Nolan, you seem to be one of those people, who I consider should be banned not from specific sites, chats, forums, or games, but from the whole internet.You are one of those, who are convinced of me being some lunatic, perverse, obsessed psycho-maniac, whose only, sheer intention is to annoy and provoke people on the internet, as if that would grant me some sick sort of satisfaction.You are the perfect example of a so called "toxic person" and "toxic behavior.I am regularily visiting, and posting in this forum over many, many years, almost ever since I lost my vision, and people here, even those condemning and criticising me in this thread, can all confirm to you, that I am just a passionate veteran gamer, who posted many hundreds of game related posts in this forum by now, proving, that his intention is not what you claim to be, but to satisfy his primary home hobby, fun and entertainment, which are (mostly online) games and their communications, aka chats and forums.People like you are those who I fear of following, pursuiting me from one online game into another one, with the sole aim to excite, align their communities against me, in order to make me banned asap.I witnessed the activity of such people more times in the past, so this is nothing new to me, they all posted similar posts, made similar comments to yours, I just fail to grasp why you are doing it.And it is exactly what you are doing again here now too, provoking, inciting this community against me, people I came well along with over so many years, and who I am asking for advices to improve my problematic online communication behavior.People like you are providing me, obviously still valid, reason for my paranoia, soIF YOU DON'T INTEND TO POST ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE, BUT ARE ONLY TRYING TO INCITE THIS COMMUNITY TOO AGAINST ME, THEN GET THE FUCK LOST, STOP READING THIS THREAD, AND STOP POSTING IN IT, YOU OBSESSED MALICIOUS PSYCHO, WILL IT MAKE YOU FEEL NICER IF YOU TURN THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AGAINST ME TOO, LIKE HOW YOU PROBABLY DID WITH SOME OTHERS IN THE PAST ALREADY?really, will it make you feel better, will it make your day? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621295/#p621295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Nolan, you seem to be one of those people, who I consider should be banned not from specific sites, chats, forums, or games, but from the whole internet.You are one of those, who are convinced of me being some lunatic, perverse, obsessed psycho-maniac, whose only, sheer intention is to annoy and provoke people on the internet, as if that would grant me some sick sort of satisfaction.You are the perfect example of a so called "toxic person" and "toxic behavior.I am regularily visiting, and posting in this forum over many, many years, almost ever since I lost my vision, and people here, even those condemning and criticising me in this thread, can all confirm to you, that I am just a passionate veteran gamer, who posted many hundreds of game related posts in this forum by now, proving, that his intention is not what you claim to be, but to satisfy his primary home hobby, fun and entertainment, which are (mostly online) games and their communications, aka chats and forums.People like you are those who I fear of following, pursuiting me from one online game into another one, with the sole aim to excite, align their communities against me, in order to make me banned asap.I witnessed the activity of such people more times in the past, so this is nothing new to me, they all posted similar posts, made similar comments to yours, I just fail to grasp why you are doing it.And it is exactly what you are doing again here now too, provoking, inciting this community against me, people I came well along with over so many years, and who I am asking for advices to improve my problematic online communication behavior.People like you are providing me, obviously still valid, reason for my paranoia, soIF YOU DON'T INTEND TO POST ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE, BUT ARE ONLY TRYING TO INCITE THIS COMMUNITY TOO AGAINST ME, THEN GET THE FUCK LOST, STOP READING THIS THREAD, AND STOP POSTING IN IT, YOU OBSESSED PSYCHO, WILL IT MAKE YOU FEEL NICER IF YOU TURN THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AGAINST ME TOO, LIKE HOW YOU PROBABLY DID WITH SOME OTHERS IN THE PAST ALREADY?really, will it make you feel better, will it make your day? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621295/#p621295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Nolan, you seem to be one of those people, who I consider should be banned not from specific sites, chats, forums, or games, but from the whole internet.You are one of those, who are convinced of me being some lunatic, perverse, obsessed psycho-maniac, whose only, sheer intention is to annoy and provoke people on the internet, as if that would grant me some sick sort of satisfaction.You are the perfect example of a so called "toxic person" and "toxic behavior.I am regularily visiting, and posting in this forum over many, many years, almost ever since I lost my vision, and people here, even those condemning and criticising me in this thread, can all confirm to you, that I am just a passionate veteran gamer, who posted many hundreds of game related posts in this forum by now, proving, that his intention is not what you claim to be, but to satisfy his primary home hobby, fun and entertainment, which are (mostly online) games and their communications, aka chats and forums.People like you are those who I fear of following, pursuiting me from one online game into another one, with the sole aim to excite, align their communities against me, in order to make me banned asap.I witnessed the activity of such people more times in the past, so this is nothing new to me, I just fail to grasp why you are doing it.And it is exactly what you are doing again here now too, provoking, inciting this community against me, people I came well along with over so many years, and who I am asking for advices to improve my problematic online communication behavior.People like you are providing me, obviously still valid, reason for my paranoia, soIF YOU DON'T INTEND TO POST ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE, BUT ARE ONLY TRYING TO INCITE THIS COMMUNITY TOO AGAINST ME, THEN GET THE FUCK LOST, STOP READING THIS THREAD, AND STOP POSTING IN IT, YOU OBSESSED PSYCHO, WILL IT MAKE YOU FEEL NICER IF YOU TURN THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AGAINST ME TOO, LIKE HOW YOU PROBABLY DID WITH SOME OTHERS IN THE PAST ALREADY?really, will it make you feel better, will it make your day? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621295/#p621295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Nolan, you seem to be one of those people, who I consider should be banned not from specific sites, chats, forums, or games, but from the whole internet.You are one of those, who are convinced of me being some lunatic, perverse, obsessed psycho-maniac, whose only, sheer intention is to annoy and provoke people on the internet, as if that would grant me some sick sort of satisfaction.You are the perfect example of a so called "toxic person" and "toxic behavior.I am regularily visiting, and posting in this forum over many, many years, almost ever since I lost my sight, and people here, even those condemning and criticising me in this thread, can all confirm to you, that I am just a passionate veteran gamer, who posted many hundreds of game related posts in this forum by now, proving, that his intention is not what you claim to be, but to satisfy his primary home hobby, fun and entertainment, which are (mostly online) games and their communications, aka chats and forums.People like you are those who I fear of following, pursuiting me from one online game into another one, with the sole aim to excite, align their communities against me, in order to make me banned asap.I witnessed the activity of such people more times in the past, so this is nothing new to me, I just fail to grasp why you are doing it.And it is exactly what you are doing again here now too, provoking, inciting this community against me, people I came well along with over so many years, and who I am asking for advices to improve my problematic online communication behavior.People like you are providing me, obviously still valid, reason for my paranoia, soIF YOU DON'T INTEND TO POST ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE, BUT ARE ONLY TRYING TO INCITE THIS COMMUNITY TOO AGAINST ME, THEN GET THE FUCK LOST, STOP READING THIS THREAD, AND STOP POSTING IN IT, YOU OBSESSED PSYCHO, WILL IT MAKE YOU FEEL NICER IF YOU TURN THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AGAINST ME TOO, LIKE HOW YOU PROBABLY DID WITH SOME OTHERS IN THE PAST ALREADY?really, will it make you feel better, will it make your day? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621295/#p621295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Nolan, you seem to be one of those people, who I consider should be banned not from specific sites, chats, forums, or games, but from the whole internet.You are one of those, who are convinced of me being some lunatic, perverse, obsessed psycho-maniac, whose only, sheer intention is to annoy and provoke people on the internet, as if that would grant me some sick sort of satisfaction.You are the perfect example of a so called "toxic person" and "toxic behavior.I am regularily visiting, and posting in this forum over many, many years, almost ever since I lost my sight, and people here, even those condemning and criticising me in this thread, can all confirm to you, that I am just a passionate veteran gamer, who posted many hundreds of game related posts in this forum by now, proving, that his intention is not what you claim to be, but to satisfy his primary home hobby, fun and entertainment, which are (mostly online) games and their communications, aka chats and forums.People like you are those who I fear of following, pursuiting me from one online game into another one, with the sole aim to excite, align their communities against me, in order to make me banned asap.I witnessed the activity of such people more times in the past, so this is nothing new to me, I just fail to grasp why you are doing it.And it is exactly what you are doing again here now too, provoking, inciting this community against me, people I came well along with over so many years, and who I am asking for advices to improve my problematic online communication behavior.People like you are providing me, obviously still valid, reason for my paranoia, soIF YOU DON'T INTEND TO POST ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE, BUT ARE ONLY TRYING TO INCITE THIS COMMUNITY TOO AGAINST ME, THEN GET THE FUCK LOST, STOP READING THIS THREAD, AND STOP POSTING IN IT, YOU OBSESSED PSYCHO, WILL IT MAKE YOU FEEL NICER IF YOU TURN THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AGAINST ME TOO, LIKE HOW YOU PROBABLY DID WITH SOME OTHERS IN THE PAST ALREADY?really, will it make you feel better, will it make your day? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621295/#p621295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Nolan, you seem to be one of those people, who I consider should be banned not from specific sites, chats, forums, or games, but for the whole internet.You are one of those, who are convinced of me being some lunatic, perverse, obsessed psycho-maniac, whose only, sheer intention is to annoy and provoke people on the internet, as if that would grant me some sick sort of satisfaction.You are the perfect example of a so called "toxic person" and "toxic behavior.I am regularily visiting, and posting in this forum over many, many years, almost ever since I lost my sight, and people here, even those condemning and criticising me in this thread, can all confirm to you, that I am just a passionate veteran gamer, who posted many hundreds of game related posts in this forum by now, proving, that his intention is not what you claim to be, but to satisfy his primary home hobby, fun and entertainment, which are (mostly online) games and their communications, aka chats and forums.People like you are those who I fear of following, pursuiting me from one online game into another one, with the sole aim to excite, align their communities against me, in order to make me banned asap.I witnessed the activity of such people more times in the past, so this is nothing new to me, I just fail to grasp why you are doing it.And it is exactly what you are doing again here now too, provoking, inciting this community against me, people I came well along with over so many years, and who I am asking for advices to improve my problematic online communication behavior.People like you are providing me, obviously still valid, reason for my paranoia, soIF YOU DON'T INTEND TO POST ANYTHING PRODUCTIVE, BUT ARE ONLY TRYING TO INCITE THIS COMMUNITY TOO AGAINST ME, THEN GET THE FUCK LOST, STOP READING THIS THREAD, AND STOP POSTING IN IT, YOU OBSESSED PSYCHO, WILL IT MAKE YOU FEEL NICER IF YOU TURN THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY AGAINST ME TOO, LIKE HOW YOU PROBABLY DID WITH SOME OTHERS IN THE PAST ALREADY?really, will it make you feel better, will it make your day? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621295/#p621295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Damn it. I just lost a damn good rant because I didn't back it up. Learn from my mistakes, kids: if you are writing a huge text wall of roasts, do so in the notepad, not on the forum, or one wrongly-placed backspace will make it go poof!Oh well, It was a good rant, so I can't just abandon it like this. Here, at least enjoy it cold. The topic has moved on since then, however, and I only quickly skimmed it, so if most of this is a repeat of what others have said already, I am sorry.And who gives a shit if they were "officially bannable offenses"?We are not dealing with justice systems of governments here. Those can afford to write piles of law books, annalized by countless experts, with the intention of maing a law about every single thing a person could possibly do that would somehow inconvenience or harm others or their property. And even those law books are far, far from perfect. No, the online games you're joining are moderated by perfectly average people, and oftentimes only have a basic code of conduct, with the expectation that people will know better than to try and poke holes in it at every opportunity (but oh, do people ever (choose to) not know better ...) What this means is that every online community, regardless of whether it states it or not, has a Community Failure Clause like this forum has. Indeed, people like you who test the line are all the more screwed if no procedure is mentioned for dealing with people who aren't breakig the rules but are making the community a worse place, because that means the administrators hold the power to do whatever the hell they want. And that's perfectly fair and just, because it is *their* game/community, not yours.I don't know how much time you spend socializing with people offline -- it'd be an easy insult to say you live in your mom's basement, and someone as OK with taunting as you really shouldn't mind, but let's not go there -- but if you've been paying just a little attention, you've no doubt noticed that certain people get ostracized from certain social circles. And sure, because of the general terribleness of humanity, many such people have done nothing wrong and are merely different. But sometimes, just sometimes, these people aren't being invited to things because they are a shitty person, and their shitty behavior ruins those things for everyone else. And yes, when that happens, the word will spread around; this cancel culture that conservatives love to hate has, in some form, existed for as long as society has.As an example of what happens when such people are not kicked out, please read this article about the Cat Piss Man, a common fixture in comic stores. The store owners no doubt have a thought process similar to yours: "Oh, but he is *technically* not doing anything wrong! And he buys things sometimes! It would be incredibly impolite to kick him out." And so they don't say anything, don't do anything. But by doing so, they kick out several other people. And no, I don't think they do so indirectly and unintentionally. It is not a coincidence. The kinds of people allowed to stick around in a community say a lot about the skills and moral principles of the administration.(But please, I beg you, do not make me regret this roast by turning this thread into yet another whine-fest about the AG.net staff, you guys!)I honestly haven't been paying much attention to you, Caccio. I'm bad at remembering names of people and what each one did. I only came here because I saw there was fun to be had, and if this diminishes the value of this post to 0 in your eyes, so be it. But, judging entirely by the descriptions of your problematic actions you yourself provided -- which you no doubt attempted to write in such a way as to conceal the worst parts -- you seem like a relative of the Cat Piss Man to me. Not because of your appearance or smell (well possibly, but I don't know you IRL), but because you do things just because you like doing them, without so much as considering the feelings of others. And even now when that lack of consideration has gotten you banned over and over, you still insist that a big chunk of it is people overreacting and trashing your reputation, and that you still need to do further tests. Well, let's look at again at the behaviors you pointed out, and see if any of them might indeed be the problem:1.1. You like bragging to the extreme. OK, I suppose it is possible you didn't know how annoying that ... oh wait!Vazbol wrote:Initially, we told him to stop doing this as it was getting spammy and no one really cared as it was small potatoes with what other people were quietly messing around with.You were told to stop, but did not listen. Now here's your problem. Remember that often-said phrase, "No means no?" Well, it doesn't only apply to sexual assault. If someone tells you to stop doing something, then unless you have a bloody good reason (you do not), you should do so, because at tha
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Actually, the story that Caccio told in post 58 does sound rather as if there is some sort of issue such as autism at play, since not being able to tell the difference in reaction between a person you know well and someone you have just met, to the point of causing major offense does sound like a more serious issue than just thoughtlessness, or at least possibly so, albeit from Caccio's previous behaviour on the forum, I would not have assumed this sort of trouble.In which case however, there isn't much more to be said either way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621287/#p621287 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Okay, couldn't resist. But this is not gonna be what you think.I am convinced that one of two things is true.1. He's a troll2. There is honest-to-goodness intellectual disability hereAnd the more I see, the more I'm starting to tip toward that latter.I'm just gonna keep my eye on this thread to see how things go for awhile. But I tell you what. If it turns out the second option is correct, you'll get a full apology from me for my harshness. Because while I still think it's important to change your behaviour, if there's intellectual or cognitive impairment happening here - given that you're forty-eight - it's going to be pretty tough to break old habits. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621284/#p621284 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Here is a quick, rl example for this over-straight nature of mine, normally from my sighted period:There is a quite attractive barmaid I know, and came very well along with, over many, like 15 years or so.One day she changed her earlier, dark red hairstyle to a totally different, blond coloured one.The moment I saw her, I noted, that this new hairstyle of her looks aweful to me, and how much better, nicer her previous hairstyle was, aka how much more I liked it.Since she knew me well, she took no offence at all, but realized I am just saying how I feel about the matter, with no intention to harm her, but to let her know my oppinion the straight way, hoping she may change her mind, and return to her previous hairstyle.However, the moment I made a similar comment to another, new barmaid, who I barely even met, I recieved a big slap, and was almost banned from the pub for it.But I just had to say it, I felt it for necessary, not with the intention to annoy, harm, or provoke her, but merely to tell her straight, to let her know how I feel about her new hairstyle.It was a wrong thing to say in her case, I admit that, but I just couldn't hold it back, that was the problem.So there is nothing wrong with my intention, it's all about the situation and the people involved, I must learn, no matter how hard it is for me, to control this over-straight nature of mine, and somehow hold it back within less familiar communities, like online game communities in this case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621283/#p621283 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Here is a quick, rl example for this over-straight nature of mine, normally from my sighted period:There is a quite attractive barmaid I know, and came very well along with, over many, like 15 years or so.One day she changed her earlier, dark red hairstyle to a totally different, blond coloured one.The moment I saw her, I noted, that this new hairstyle of her looks aweful to me, and how much better, nicer her previous hairstyle was, aka how much more I liked it.Since she knew me well, she took no offence at all, but realized I am just saying how I feel about the matter, with no intention to harm her, but to let her know my oppinion the straight way, hoping she may change her mind, and return to her previous hairstyle.However, the moment I made a similar comment to another, new barmaid, who I barely even met, I recieved a big slap, and was almost banned from the pub for it.But I just had to say it, I felt it for necessary, not with the intention to annoy, harm, or provoke her, but merely to tell her straight, to let her know how I feel about her new hairstyle.It was a wrong thing to say in her case, I admit that, but I just couldn't hold it back, that was the problem.So there is nothing wrong with my intention, it's all about the situation and the people involved, I must learn, no matter how hard it is for me, to control this over-straight nature of mine, and somehow hold it back within less familiar communities, like online game communities in this case. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621283/#p621283 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal OMG every time I think I've seen the biggest pile this place has to serve up, someone squats and shits out another. Folks, this is pure denial-of-service. It's not even distributed. It's one dude tying you all up for hours, forever. And if I ever see his alias in a community I manage, or his behavior, I'll ban and move on. And I'll just nod and smile at everyone who calls me a tyrant for it, because sometimes it's really and truly necessary.Don't feed it. Every time you respond to something, it'll be "That's some real good advice. I just have one question," or "Thanks for that. Just one objection." or "I really appreciate everything you said. I just thought of this whole new ridiculous tangential meandering conversation to drag you down and repeat the whole process again." Sometimes this stuff is worse than the outright flamebate. I get the desire to help people and be supportive. So does this fool, and he's exploiting that to make this place just a little more crappy by dragging you along. He's probably seen it done in good faith before, so now he's tweaked it since outright hostility is something this community finally deals with--generally, anyway. None of you are actually helping this person, you realize that right? You're just giving him exactly what he wants.Cue the "That's not really what I'm doing, I'm just trying to figure out..." response to this post in 3...2...1... Watch me not bite when the hook is set. How about the rest of you don't either, if only for your own sake?Here, have some healthy light reading someone posted on another of my feeds recently. Very relevant here: https://mastodon.social/@ifixcoinops/105778289798706182Good day. *drops mic* URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621277/#p621277 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal No Jayde, the reason for me repeating the same type of wrong behavior is not that I am unwilling, or incapable to learn from my mistakes.It is my overstraight nature, it's the way how I was raised up, and it is quite hard to overcome, and change such a strong behavior type in my age, I am 48, so it is, again, not easy at all to change something I got used to over so many years in real life.So while I know I should avoid it, and am trying to do so, sometimes I still say whatever I wish, I feel the urge, consider for necessary to say, without caring for the consequences.I am not saying I won't try to change this, I will, I wish to change it god damnit, it's just that since it is quite hard, it will take some time until I totally manage to leave this overstraight communication type behind, and get used to say only things, which I am sure I won't annoy, harm anyone in the community with.Strangely though, irl I had no problems due this behavior in friendly communities, they all realized, and accepted it as my nature, but also true, I did have serious problems when acting the same way on my job for example, or when surrounded with less familiar people, so this is another reason for me to follow Dark's suggestion, and start acting similar to how I would, should act irl, outside of the community of my relatives or close friends. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621273/#p621273 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Bro, just go play Mortal Kombat's Kombat League with your mike on, it'd be right up your alley. Which is why so many people don't do it because it's toxic as heck.A lot of games are toxic, but in a game like wayfar, being a general ass hat publically or making enemies with powerful friends tends to end badly for you. Just think of the consequences!As others have stated so eloquently - although online changes on the dynamics someone based on the setting. Honestly if you don't have that inate ability to read rooms and your fellow humans, explaining the social contract is going to be really fucking hard. I get it, it's complex. I've seen a lot of autistic people struggle with this, but most of them feel sorry for their actions and are some of the nicest, if it a bit odd, people I have come across. For you though sir, I see more narcisistic personality trays in you - though that is only my observation and I will not fall into the trap of armchair psychoanalyzing someone. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621270/#p621270 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : JayJay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal LOL, have to admit 43 and 44 made my morning. I'm with london here, this flat out level of obliviousness has to be trolling. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621265/#p621265 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal @Caccio, while I probably would not have put it as harshly as Jayde did here, he is absolutely correct that intention does not matter, and that saying "sorry", is meaningless if there is no intention to change the behaviour behind the harm.If you are "sorry", then, say sorry, and don't do it again, end of story! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621264/#p621264 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Talking about mistakes, I just realized one of mine, which probably influenced my behavior in online games a lot, and caused troubles to me quite often:Namely, I kept judging the whole game community based on myself.I forgot, that others may not have the same competitive spirit which I do.For example, if a player would tell me: "You can't get me you noob!", I would never feel offended by it, on the contrary, I would consider, interpret it as a challenge, and would "play along" with it, responding something like : "Yarr, we shall see, come here and fight like a man, let's see what you are made of, if you really think you are so tough, prove it!", or something similar to these, depending of my current situation, strength, level, skills, etc in the game.Now I realized how annoying this can make one, not this competitive type player feel, and in the future, I will only act this way toward those, who have already proven to share my competitive type attitude in the community. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621263/#p621263 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Here's a pick and spade to dig that hole deeper.When you say "I'm sorry", what you're actually saying is, "I shouldn't have done that and I'm going to try very hard to stop".If you keep having to say you're sorry for the same thing, your apologies are meaningless. Because clearly you haven't been learning.A good apology is a good start. I'll give you that. But you actually have to mean it, and so far you haven't.The word "sorry" does not wipe the slate clean. It merely asks someone to give you a chance to fix your mistake. If you keep not fixing it, and keep apologizing, trust in you is going to erode. That's what's happened here.So there are no objections. Stop flailing. Get busy doing better, or just go away and stop inflicting yourself on communities that would, in your current state at least, be better off without you.Okay. Really done this time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621262/#p621262 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Jayde, also thanks to your, very clearly formulated suggestions.I will try to act according to them.I only have one single objection:I do always appologize whenever I realized I harmed, or was annoying people, (just like how I always appologize for my proven mistakes), unlike certain other people I know, it's not hard for me to say "sorry, I appologize", and if you would follow my online game communication history, you would see for yourself, how I am making such appologies repeatedly, multiple times during almost each single longer online gameplay of mine, proving that my intention is not to harm and annoy people, but only to have my competitive type of fun in online games.As for all the rest you said, they are totally valid and justified arguments, so again, I will do my best to follow your suggestions from now on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621260/#p621260 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal "competitive", is childish when it results in childish behaviour. For example, there is a huge difference between: "Your going down." and: "You complete waste of space! I'm' going to totally destroy you because you suckk!"Just as there is a difference between:"Yeah I won!" "and "I won! you lose! you big fat useless loser!" Again though, this all comes down to simply the thing which I, and Jayde, and Sir badger and pretty much everyone in this entire topic has been trying to say! "Think! Of! Others" URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621256/#p621256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal "competitive", is childish when it results in childish behaviour. For example, there is a huge difference between: "Your going down." and: "You complete waste of space! I'm' going to totally destroy you because you suckk!"Just as there is a difference between:"Yeah I won!" "and "I won! you lose! you big fat useless loser!" Again though, this all comes down to simply the thing which I, and Sir badger and pretty much everyoine in this entire topic has been trying to say! "Think! Of! Others" URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621256/#p621256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Being competitive and wanting to do well are fine. Compete if you want. Get into PVP and pwn all the n00bs if that's your thing.But don't brag about it. Don't brag beforehand, and don't do it afterword. If you know someone well, and they know you, and you want to tease each other, that's different. But some random person does not need your taunting. Taunting doesn't actually prove how good you are; it just makes you a jerk.If you and I wanted to play chess, and I sat down at the board across from you and immediately said, "You have no chance of beating me, bro. I'm going to wipe you right off the map", how would you feel?Because if you did it to me, I would get up and walk away. Literally walk away. I have no interest in your posturing, and I suspect that about 98% of any given community feels the same way.And as LordLundin pointed out, this has reached trolling levels, since the dude started by saying he's not breaking rules. This whole ruse is deliberate. I am done here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621257/#p621257 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal "competitive", is childish when it results in childish behaviour. For example, there is a huge difference between: "Your going down." and: "You complete waste of space! I'm' going to totally destroy you because you suckk!"Just as there is a difference between:"Yeah I won!" "and "I won! you lose! you big fat useless loser!" Again though, this all comes down to simply the thing which I, and Sir badger and pretty much everyoine in this entire topic has been trying to say! "Think! of! Others" URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621256/#p621256 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal There is one thing I disagree with you though Dark:As a very competitive person both irl and in online games, I would hardly call the desire, the urge to compete with people childish.For a competitive type person, (and player), it is perfectly normal wishing to perform well, and prove himself to the community he is a part of, both in real life and in online games, at least this is what I am totally convinced of.Hell, whenever I make truely more significant successes among my competition or concurrency, either irl or in an online game, it makes my day each single time, maybe even my whole week happier, while whenever I fail, especially after more critical failures, I will feel aweful for the next few days for sure.So again, I consider this for a totally justified rl-related, personality and character dependent issue, which is nothing outside of normal in my case.Sorry if you disagree with this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621253/#p621253 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal There is one thing I disagree with you though Dark:As a very competitive person both irl and in online games, I would hardly call the desire, the urge to compete with people childish.For a competitive type person, (and player), it is perfectly normal wishing to perform well, and prove himself to the community he is a part of, both in real life and in online games, at least this is what I am totally convinced of.Hell, whenever I make truely more significant successes among my competition or concurrency, either irl or in an online game, it makes my day each single time, maybe even my whole week happier, while whenever I fail, especially after more critical failures, I will feel aweful for the next few days for sure.So again, I consider this for a totally justified rl-related, personality and character dependent issue, which is nothing outside of normal in my case.Sorry if you disagree with this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621253/#p621253 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal @Lord Lundin, Just look at the state of the world, you will see there is absolutely no limit to the density of humanity .@Caccio, ah, we seem to be getting somewhere. Most online games these days are none rp enforced. this means that yes, people are expected to act not just out of character, but as they would normally online, I.e., be reasonable towards other players, and any behaviour which would be rude, offensive or irritating on a forum or the like, or indeed in rl, would be so in a game. Indeed, one concept which I have seen explicitly stated in Avalon the legend lives, but which applies to some degree most everywhere, is realplay, that you are essentially playing an online version of yourself, as a character in that world, so should act as you would act normally, just in the situation of being a space pilot, or fantasy mercenary or whatever your in game character is.This is very true for Wayfar1444, where people just basically chat and shoot the breeze and are as likely to talk about rl matters as in game ones.Even in RP enforced games, with a very few exceptions, your character still has to behave as part of a community, EG, if your in an alliance and you start pissing off members of another alliance, you'll annoy people because you'll be getting your own alliance into conflict. There are a very very few exceptions as where players are expected to play in a more aggressive manner, but usually those exceptions make this very clear in their in game materials, indeed one game, Torn city, I actively stopped playing precisely because! it had that sort of nasty ethos.So yeah, just be nice to people! Really it isn't that hard, and might even enhance your fun rather than spoiling it, (especially the next time you want a high level item built for you). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621246/#p621246 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SirBadger via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal @41 if you actually read the posts in this topic you have been told over and over how to improve your behaviour but you either don't want to listen or are unable to understand it. so let me put it this way: if i met you in a bar and you spoke the way you apparently talk to people on these games that keep banning you, you would be on the floor spitting out teeth. so imagine the game as real life and think, would i talk to somebody like that usually, or would i be a bit nicer and just try to have fun and make friends. it's not fucking rocket science. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621249/#p621249 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal @Caccio, ah, we seem to be getting somewhere. Most online games these days are none rp enforced. this means that yes, people are expected to act not just out of character, but as they would normally online, I.e., be reasonable towards other players, and any behaviour which would be rude, offensive or irritating on a forum or the like, or indeed in rl, would be so in a game. Indeed, one concept which I have seen explicitly stated in Avalon the legend lives, but which applies to some degree most everywhere, is realplay, that you are essentially playing an online version of yourself, as a character in that world, so should act as you would act normally, just in the situation of being a space pilot, or fantasy mercenary or whatever your in game character is.This is very true for Wayfar1444, where people just basically chat and shoot the breeeze and are as likely to talk about rl matters as in game ones.Even in RP enforced games, with a very few exceptions, your character still has to behave as part of a community, EG, if your in an alliance and you start pissing off members of another alliance, you'll annoy people because you'll be getting your own alliance into conflict. There are a very few exceptions where players are expected to play in a more aggressive manner, but usually those exceptions make this very clear in their in game materials, indeed one game, Torn city, I actively stopped playing precisely because! it had that sort of nasty ethos. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621246/#p621246 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal I think this is some of the best trolling I've witnessed in years. No one can possibly be this dence. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621245/#p621245 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Do you others agree with Dark's suggestion too?Hope you do, for then we finally found the answer to all my online communication problems, aka overexaggerated roleplaying, and also the solution for them.(to moderate, to reduce my roleplaying intensity, by acting more similar to my rl personality) URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621244/#p621244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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Re: an appeal Do you others agree with Dark's suggestion too?Hope you do, for then we finally found the answer to all my online communication problems, and also the solution for them! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621244/#p621244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Ok, thank you Dark, so if I got it right, you suggest me I should behave in online games similarily to how I behave in real life, when surrounded with people other than my close relatives or good friends.I usually am trying to play a role in online games, and that role includes my character to act the way I described, so I considered it for a part of my role-playing by now.To tell you honestly, I never even considered acting in an online game environment similarily to how I act irl, for again, I considered it for a place for role playing, impersonating my char, who is, normally, quite different from my real life personality.I considered this as a requirement for successful role-playing.Maybe this is one of the main issues here.Many thanks again, will definitely listen to your suggestion, and "see" its outcome, I am actually curious how it will turn out.I was obviously simply overexaggerated my roleplay, and annoyed online communities with that, man, now I realize this all may be the result of this!Jesus, could the reason, the answer, and the solution be this simple? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621242/#p621242 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Ok, thank you Dark, so if I got it right, you suggest me I should behave in online games similarily to how I behave in real life, when surrounded with people other than my close relatives or good friends.I usually am trying to play a role in online games, and that role includes my character to act the way I described, so I considered it for a part of my role-playing by now.To tell you honestly, I never even considered acting in an online game environment similarily to how I act irl, for again, I considered it for a place for role playing, impersonating my char, who is, normally, quite different from my real life personality.I considered this as a requirement for successful role-playing.Maybe this is one of the main issues here.Many thanks again, will definitely listen to your suggestion, and "see" its outcome, I am actually curious how it will turn out.I was obviously simply overexaggerated my roleplay, and annoyed online communities with that, man, now I realize this all may be the result of this! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621242/#p621242 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal yes, its your fault, evry single timebecause your the one in control of your actions, not someone elsethere for your the only one that to be blamed for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621236/#p621236 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal yes, its your fault, evry single timebecause your the one in control of your actions, not someone else URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621236/#p621236 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal So to summarize:We all agreed, that my current online game communication is a wrong one.Now please advise me, how, in which way to make it more acceptable to online game communities, but by still preserving my own competitive fun and entertainment? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621235/#p621235 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal It's really, really simple:1. You are in control of your actions. Find out which actions piss people off, and stop doing them.2. For instance, stop bragging about all your achievements. We don't care.3. For instance, stop taunting people. It's annoying.4. For instance, stop acting like we give a damn about your skill level. If you want to own a n00b, go own him, and shut up about it.5. For instance, if you want people to believe that you truly don't mean harm, then when you've clearly done harm, apologize. Don't explain. Don't make excuses. Fucking apologize. This isn't rocket science, and I am done being gentle with you. You have no good-faith defense of your actions here.6. For instance, stop making excuses for your behaviour. We don't care about how your upbringing taught you that it's okay to make people angry. We don't care that you're so competitive that all you care about is upsetting people. These are not valid defenses of your actions. In fact, they're condemnations. See point 1.You can't say that you don't mean to harm people, but continue to do the things that harm them. You can't have it both ways. Frankly, right now, and throughout this topic, you have been lying to us and to yourself. One of two scenarios is true.1. You really don't care if you harm people, and you just want community access so you can go on having fun at the expense of other people; or2. You do care if you harm people, but when you do the calculation of the harm you cause vs. the fun you have, fun wins.Stop lying to yourself. Stop lying to the rest of us. If you truly know and accept that what you do causes harm, then just stop doing those harmful things. It's not difficult. At all. If you can't or won't, then you don't deserve to belong to any communities.I'll tell you now. If I owned a game and knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that you'd come on my game today, I'd ban you instantly. You haven't indicated in any way that you're actually going to change. Not yet. That may come, and if it does, that's great. You can come back from this, like I said, but it's going to take awhile. And right now, it's up to you to prove that you deserve to be trusted. It's not up to the rest of us to give you one more final last chance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621234/#p621234 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal It's really, really simple:1. You are in control of your actions. Find out which actions piss people off, and stop doing them.2. For instance, stop bragging about all your achievements. We don't care.3. For instance, stop taunting people. It's annoying.4. For instance, stop acting like we give a damn about your skill level. If you want to own a n00b, go own him, and shut up about it.4. For instance, if you want people to believe that you truly don't mean harm, then when you've clearly done harm, apologize. Don't explain. Don't make excuses. Fucking apologize. This isn't rocket science, and I am done being gentle with you. You have no good-faith defense of your actions here.5. For instance, stop making excuses for your behaviour. We don't care about how your upbringing taught you that it's okay to make people angry. We don't care that you're so competitive that all you care about is upsetting people. These are not valid defenses of your actions. In fact, they're condemnations. See point 1.You can't say that you don't mean to harm people, but continue to do the things that harm them. You can't have it both ways. Frankly, right now, and throughout this topic, you have been lying to us and to yourself. One of two scenarios is true.1. You really don't care if you harm people, and you just want community access so you can go on having fun at the expense of other people; or2. You do care if you harm people, but when you do the calculation of the harm you cause vs. the fun you have, fun wins.Stop lying to yourself. Stop lying to the rest of us. If you truly know and accept that what you do causes harm, then just stop doing those harmful things. It's not difficult. At all. If you can't or won't, then you don't deserve to belong to any communities.I'll tell you now. If I owned a game and knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that you'd come on my game today, I'd ban you instantly. You haven't indicated in any way that you're actually going to change. Not yet. That may come, and if it does, that's great. You can come back from this, like I said, but it's going to take awhile. And right now, it's up to you to prove that you deserve to be trusted. It's not up to the rest of us to give you one more final last chance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621234/#p621234 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal Ah, finally! a good question.here is a basic rule of thumb.Every online game is a public space full of people you do not know. if you would not say or do it in a classroom, work environment, or semi formal social event with a bunch of strangers, do not say it in an online game.You would not wander around your workplace saying: "hay! I just had a cup of coffee! wow, I just sat in my chair! wow, I just opened a door." that would annoy people pretty quickly.Neither would you say: "I just looked at this morning's email! Hay I'm going to totally rule this place!", or "I just finished my first assignment! take that you stupid noob! because I've been doing jobs longer than you!" Yes, you might say, after a long day: "That was a hard job, I'm glad I nailed that one." or, if playing a friendly game with someone: "Yeah, got you that time lol." Above all, remember that everyone else on the game is a person playing at their own machine, with their own life or concerns. Yeah, a friendly hi or a bit of friendly competition is fine, but "friendly", is the word here. If in doubt, just remember what Jesus said: "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", since oddly enough, it's actually very good advice for a lot of situations, online games not the least . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621233/#p621233 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Look audiogames people:YOU KEEP REPEATING HOW IT IS ALL JUST ONLY MY OWN FAULT, AND HOW I SHOULD CHANGE MY BEHAVIOR.OK, LET IT BE SO, I ACKNOWLEDGED AND ACCEPTED THIS.SO I KEEP DESCRIBING MY ONLINE GAME BEHAVIOR NOW, HOPING TO GET HINTS, SUGGESTIONS, WHAT EXACTLY SHOULD I CHANGE, HOW SHOULD I BEHAVE INSTEAD.SO PLEASE, INSTEAD OF REPEATING YOUR CRITICS, EXPLAINING, PROVING TO ME WHY MY BEHAVIOR IS WRONG, WILL YOU PLEASE START GIVING ME EXACT ADVICES, AKA WHAT, IN WHICH WAY TO CHANGE MY ONLINE COMMUNICATION BEHAVIOR, SO IT BECOMES MORE ACCEPTABLE, AND CAUSE ME LESS PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621231/#p621231 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Look audiogames people:YOU KEEP REPEATING HOW IT IS ALL JUST ONLY MY OWN FAULT, AND HOW I SHOULD CHANGE MY BEHAVIOR.OK, LET IT BE SO, I ACKNOWLEDGED AND ACCEPTED THIS.SO I KEEP DESCRIBING MY ONLINE GAME BEHAVIOR NOW, HOPING TO GET HINTS, SUGGESTIONS, WHAT EXACTLY SHOULD I CHANGE, HOW SHOULD I BEHAVE INSTEAD.SO PLEASE, INSTEAD OF REPEATING YOUR CRITICS, WILL YOU PLEASE START GIVING ME EXACT ADVICES, AKA WHAT, IN WHICH WAY TO CHANGE MY ONLINE COMMUNICATION BEHAVIOR, SO IT BECOMES MORE ACCEPTABLE, AND CAUSE ME LESS PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621231/#p621231 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
2021-03-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Caccio72 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal Look audiogames people:YOU KEEP REPEATING HOW IT IS ALL JUST ONLY MY OWN FAULT, AND HOW I SHOULD CHANGE MY BEHAVIOR.OK, LET IT BE SO, I ACKNOWLEDGED AND ACCEPTED IT.SO I KEEP DESCRIBING MY ONLINE GAME BEHAVIOR NOW, HOPING TO GET HINTS, SUGGESTIONS, WHAT EXACTLY SHOULD I CHANGE, HOW SHOULD I BEHAVE INSTEAD.SO PLEASE, INSTEAD OF REPEATING YOUR CRITICS, WILL YOU PLEASE START GIVING ME EXACT ADVICES, AKA WHAT, IN WHICH WAY TO CHANGE MY ONLINE COMMUNICATION BEHAVIOR, SO IT BECOMES MORE ACCEPTABLE, AND CAUSE ME LESS PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621231/#p621231 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: an appeal
Re: an appeal You site the following rule: Caccio wrote:no repeating the same content over and over, aka spamming,Then you say:Caccio wrote:1.With my competitive nature and spirit, I like to brag with my achievements, regardless how important, significant they actually are.Examples for this were told in some previous posts here, me announcing all my, even less significant achievements, so no need to list those now. Similarly you say:Caccio wrote:no personal offenses,Then you make it clear:Caccio wrote:Also, I like to taunt, or even provoke my concurrency, to enhance the competition, and make the game more challenging, more exciting to me.Examples for these are statements like "I dare you to get me you noobs, I was playing games before you were even born, I am a veteran gamer with vast general game experience, the bigger they are the harder they fall, one day I will beat you all and rule this game", etc.2.My over-straight nature, which makes, dictates me to say, tell everything I think out directly, without caring wether others will like to hear it or not, weather it will annoy them or not, wether it is advisable to say or not.Again, I don't intend to harm or annoy the game community with this, but it is just something how I was raised up, taught, educated all my life: What's in my heart-comes out of my mouth.This is why I make certain passionate comments regarding certain matters, this is why I react so passionately to certain events, like losses, deaths, failures, and even discovered bugs I am convinced of, this is why I revolt so passionately why I think, feel I am treated unfairly, etc..Unfortunately, in this case it sounds more like you know the letter of the rules, but not the spirit, and are more interested in establishing that everyone is persecuting you, rather than actually trying to take note of what you might have done wrong.Still, it is what it is. You've seen what your current behaviour leads to, so if you want to go on behaving the same way, expect the same consequences. If you want different consequences, then behave differently, that's really all there is to say. it's not to do with your intention, or identity or anything else, it's simply how you treat people, that is all. I think this will be my last word on this topic, since honestly at this point I don't think there is much else to be said. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/621230/#p621230 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
