Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@78, so you are claiming that something is scientifically credible based on what you herd... on television. OK then. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. There are very, very few channels on television that discuss science of various kinds, and only those few channels claim scientific accuracy.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@Maranatà I could not find any credible recordings of possesion on youtube, please enlighten me with some links. I'm sure you would know which ones are genuine since you claim to have seen it happen. The ones I was able to find were short and the quality of the sound was very poor, looks like fakes to me.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-25 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Maranatà via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

I'm sorry, unfortunately I don't have precise sources, what I wrote I heard from a documentary on Italian television.  But surely looking for something on Google you can find ..

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@Maranatà, now I'm curious. Scientifically crdible, eh? What's your evidence for that and who conducted the tests?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@Maranatà, as you are now claiming scientific authenticity, I request evidence from you. Provide us with evidence that has gone through the peer review process (and no, it can't be just one 'study', it has to be many, all agreeing (in one way or another) with each other). The evidence must be verifiable because rest assured that I, at least, will be attempting to verify your claim.If you fail to provide evidence than your claims will just be theoretical/hypothetical. Since yoru claiming that its scientifically credible, then it'll be deemed to be pseudo-science. And I, at any rate, do not like pseudo-science because of the extremely high possibility of spreading misinformation and, as a result, misinforming people who do not wish to (or do not know how to) verify those pseudo-scientific claims for themselves.Granted, logic is clearly indicating your BSing people, though I'd like to read your "proof".

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@Maranatà, as you are now claiming scientific authenticity, I request evidence from you. Provide us with evidence that has gone through the peer review process (and no, it can't be just one 'study', it has to be many, all agreeing (in one way or another) with each other). The evidence must be verifiable because rest assured that I, at least, will be attempting to verify your claim.If you fail to provide evidence than your claims will just be theoretical/hypothetical. Since yoru claiming that its scientifically credible, then it'll be deemed to be pseudo-science. And I, at any rate, do not like pseudo-science because of the extremely high possibility of spreading misinformation and, as a result, misinforming people who do not wish to (or do not know how to) verify those pseudo-scientific claims for themselves.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@Maranatà, as you are now claiming scientific authenticity, I request evidence from you. Provide us with evidence that has gone through the peer review process (and no, it can't be just one 'study', it has to be many, all agreeing (in one way or another) with each other). The evidence must be verifiable because rest assured that I, at least, will be attempting to verify your claim.If you fail to provide evidence than your claims will just be theoretical/hypothetical, and the fact that your claiming scientific authenticity will make your failure even worse.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Maranatà via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

However, dear brothers, if the astral projection is authentic, it is very dangerous.  Already there are ongoing investigations because several people who practiced it have died because of veins that burst in the brain.  And this thing is scientifically credible, in fact during these supposed astral projections the brain gets tired because it is not made to support such a heavy work.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Maranatà via Audiogames-reflector


  


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But it is not they who do these things, it is the devil who is in them!  Trust your brother, it would be better for you if I never met them, I assure you that it is really scary!  However, the Church has already registered exorcisms, just look for them on Youtube.  And then the word of God often tells of these things, especially in the Gospels Jesus made many exorcisms.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Draq via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Man. If I ever met a demon/Satan/anyone possessed, I'd be asking them how the heck they do all that, because I'd really want to learn how that works. I wonder if anyone's bothered to do that yet.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

If you claim you've seen a friend of yours being posessed then please describe the experience in more details. Do you have a recording of it? Many people say they have a friend or know someone to have been exorcised so why hasn't anyone recorded an exorcism yet? Why isn't the church using recordings of demons and such to convince people that their belief is true? I guess it would be the best way to attract believers, it would be the absolute proof. Why don't they use recordings and films to reveal the truth about hell and make the believers reinforce their faith in God and be good and humble and to never commit sin again?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-24 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Maranatà via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

I was not educated with any religious dogma, I am proudly Catholic because I met Jesus Christ and I also met Satan, since I have a friend who was possessed by the devil.  He got up from the ground, spit objects out of his mouth and even moved objects by speaking in different languages simultaneously and with many different voices at the same time.  Friend, don't tell me that satan doesn't exist because first you should see what I've seen, not be presumptuous and try to be humble!

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

But the soul is connected to the body through a link that's why you can understand and remember the experience. The only time the soul will disconnect from the body is when you're dead. It's hard to describe but sometimes you can feel your soul and your body at the same time. I guess it's hard for someone who was raised in strict religious dogmas to understand and believe in such concepts though.The only place I've met satan is in people's hearts, Satan is a name given to the unknown, a name for our own wrong doing, Satan is ignorance and stupidity. Without ignorant and closed minded people there would be no satan because there would be noone to create it.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Maranatà via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

But sorry, if the soul is out of the body it shouldn't be connected to the brain anymore!  So there should no longer be any filter of the mind.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

We can not see during the projection because our mind filters the experience. So, if your mind doesn't know how to see it wont see. For someone who had sight before going blind it will work, that person will be able to use sight during the experience.@67 I wouldn't advise you to try it then. There is nothing that can harm you during that experience but your mind can play some tricks on you, I.E. you could falsely believe that there is no way back and remain blocked for a while, or your mind might create some terrific things around you like monsters. You wont be harmed by them but the experience is so real that the mind doesn't know that and it will activate it's deffense mecanisms. I've had this happen when I was a beginner at this but I learned to control what I'm experiencing since then. But, it's a very unpleasant experience if the trip goes wrong and if you're easily affraid then it can harm your mental health.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Maranatà via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

I think that astral projection is actually impossible, it is only a subtle deception of satan that leads us to think that we are out of the body.  In fact, if the soul were really out of the body, we could have blind sight during the projection.  This is because sight disability is a characteristic of the body, not of the soul.  So why does physical disability continue even during the screening?  I believe that it is satan that makes us feel those sensations, in reality the soul does not come out of the body at all!

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Diegogaribay via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

what if you are amazingly scared during the projection and you want it to stop. can it go wrong? I have horrible night terrors so I would not try it myself.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

You didn't enter the phase but you were really close. If you'd have kept it a little longer and fully awakened the dream would have dissolved and you would have find yourself close to your body.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

I think I may have briefly entered the phase last night. I remember manhandling Robert Mugabe around And thinking to myself, is this a projection? That is when I lost the experience and fell back asleep.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Just because we don't have the science now to explain it does not mean it is not explainable. Multidimensional math does exist, and right now a lot of it is theoretical, and used in quantum physics.Dean Raddin, is a Stanford researcher who has done a lot of research over the past fifty years on the subject.People have been doing this for thousands of years, in all walks of life. There is a lot of evidence that something is going on. Whether you term it astral projection, out of body experience, NDE, or psychological episode, something is happening.Also, going way back up the thread, who says that just because it's in your head it is not real? Reality is just what we agree it is. Look at jungian psychology for more on that.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@Ethin Are you a reddit fan then?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@61, I do though I mainly watch Quara for entertainment (some of the questions are absolutely hilarious in the stupidity of them, and others are actually intelligent questions). I have never asked a question on Quara, though.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@Ethin do you have a qwora acount?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@59, some of the sources I use include Wikipedia, prior knowledge gained throughout my education and self-studies, various science books, and of course general research. A good podcast I used to listen to quite a bit (especially on the way home from high school) was Science America. At that time (they may still have it) they had a short, quick podcast that you could briefly listen to to get the latest science news and a much longer form of it as well.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@ Ethin Can you recommand  some intresting potcasts or books about those subjects   or related once.You know. The subjects mentioned by bouth of us in our mesages.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wing of eternity via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@ Ethin One of his edetors said"this book should be burned, heracy" So that is the open mindedness of science to an idea?Now you see, evin if the science can not prove it as you said"a man can dream, can't hi?"One way or another the materialist scientists must in some way come with new ideas.The best part of seudo sience is creativity and the regular scientists should not make persons like Shelldrake look  like heretics.If we will not dream for a new idea then we will stagnate.In time i hope they will be  more open to the new ideas.Sience must not become a new church, and the scientists must not transform  in to crazy catholics .@Ethin Can you recommand some intresting potcasts or sites about  those subjects,  related subjects or just books.I think i should make a new topic about this subject.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@57, no, pseudoscience is not what you think it is. Pseudoscience is literally "fake science". It is "a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method." The reason I indicated that Astral Travel was pseudoscientific was that some pseudoscientists do in fact claim that it is scientifically possible, then get rammed hard for it. Science welcomes creativity all the time. To truly believe that something is possible though, it requires not just one study; it must be placed through the peer-review process and studied by various people before the general scientific community will accept it. (Plus, technically it is "pseudoscience" with some belief thrown in, and there's no scientific evidence to prove its possible.)

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@57, no, pseudoscience is not what you think it is. Pseudoscience is literally "fake science". It is "a collection of beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on scientific method." The reason I indicated that Astral Travel was pseudoscientific was that some pseudoscientists do in fact claim that it is scientifically possible, then get rammed hard for it. Science welcomes creativity all the time. To truly believe that something is possible though, it requires not just one study; it must be placed through the peer-review process and studied by various people before the general scientific community will accept it.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@ Ethin One of his edetors said"this book should be burned, heracy" so that is the open mindedness to an idea.Now you see, evin if the science can not prove it as you said"a man can dream, can't hi?"One way or another the materialist scientists must in some way come with new ideas.The best part of seudo sience is creativity and the regular scientists should not make persons like Shelldrake look  like heretics.If we will not dream for a new idea then we will stagnate.In time i hope they will be  more open to the new ideas.Sience must not become a new church.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@ Ethin One of his edetors said"this book should be burned, heracy" so that is the open mindedness to an idea.Now you see, evin if the science can not prove it as you said"a man can dream, can't hi?"One way or another the materialist scientists must in some way come with new ideas.The best part of seudo sience is creativity and the regular scientists should not make persons like Shelldrake look  like heretics.If we will not dream for a new idea then we will stagnate.In time i hope they will be open.Sience must not become a new church.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@54-55, first, please stop double-posting. Edit your post if you'd like to add content to it. Second, no, I have not heard of him. Do remember, however, that just because someones ideas seem "rational" does not mean they are correct. In particular, according to various sources, Shelldrake's ideas have never been subjected to the peer-review process (and the ideals he proposed in the book "A New Science of Life" (1981) fail the scientific method test). Most of his well-known books contain results that he contributes to 'morphic resonance'. Only Sheldrake truly knows what 'Morphic resonance' is. It is no more empirical than L. Ron Hubbard's 'engram',  the alleged source of all mental and physical illness. According to other sources, he appears to favor metaphysics over science, though he thinks he can do the former but call it the latter. Every well-known book contains descriptions of things like telepathy and other fictional content; scientists who attempt to apply the scientific method to his results thus far have not been able to replicate them. They -- his books -- may be interesting to read, but they are no more scientific than Harry Potter is, even if he claims they are. What's ironic is that he did get a P.H.D. in biochemistry, yet he abuses that P.H.D. to attempt to erode the public's understanding of science.Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake, http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html, https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 … e-delusionEdit: fixed links (damn this forum software).Edit 2: I'm certainly open to Sheldrake's theories (a man can dream, can't he?). However, unless irrefutable evidence is shown to the entire world that Sheldrake is correct, he'll be hard-pressed to successfully overturn centuries of scientific knowledge.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@54-55, first, please stop double-posting. Edit your post if you'd like to add content to it. Second, no, I have not heard of him. Do remember, however, that just because someones ideas seem "rational" does not mean they are correct. In particular, according to various sources, Shelldrake's ideas have never been subjected to the peer-review process (and the ideals he proposed in the book "A New Science of Life" (1981) fail the scientific method test). Most of his well-known books contain results that he contributes to 'morphic resonance'. Only Sheldrake truly knows what 'Morphic resonance' is. It is no more empirical than L. Ron Hubbard's 'engram',  the alleged source of all mental and physical illness. According to other sources, he appears to favor metaphysics over science, though he thinks he can do the former but call it the latter. Every well-known book contains descriptions of things like telepathy and other fictional content; scientists who attempt to apply the scientific method to his results thus far have not been able to replicate them. They -- his books -- may be interesting to read, but they are no more scientific than Harry Potter is, even if he claims they are. What's ironic is that he did get a P.H.D. in biochemistry, yet he abuses that P.H.D. to attempt to erode the public's understanding of science.Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake, http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html, https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 … e-delusionEdit: fixed links (damn this forum software)

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@54-55, first, please stop double-posting. Edit your post if you'd like to add content to it. Second, no, I have not heard of him. Do remember, however, that just because someones ideas seem "rational" does not mean they are correct. In particular, according to various sources, Shelldrake's ideas have never been subjected to the peer-review process (and the ideals he proposed in the book "A New Science of Life" (1981) fail the scientific method test). Most of his well-known books contain results that he contributes to 'morphic resonance'. Only Sheldrake truly knows what 'Morphic resonance' is. It is no more empirical than L. Ron Hubbard's 'engram',  the alleged source of all mental and physical illness. According to other sources, he appears to favor metaphysics over science, though he thinks he can do the former but call it the latter. Every well-known book contains descriptions of things like telepathy and other fictional content; scientists who attempt to apply the scientific method to his results thus far have not been able to replicate them. They -- his books -- may be interesting to read, but they are no more scientific than Harry Potter is, even if he claims they are. What's ironic is that he did get a P.H.D. in biochemistry, yet he abuses that P.H.D. to attempt to erode the public's understanding of science.Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake, http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html, https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cr … -mysteries, https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 … e-delusionEdit: fixed links (damn this forum software)

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@54-55, first, please stop double-posting. Edit your post if you'd like to add content to it. Second, no, I have not heard of him. Do remember, however, that just because someones ideas seem "rational" does not mean they are correct. In particular, according to various sources, Shelldrake's ideas have never been subjected to the peer-review process (and the ideals he proposed in the book "A New Science of Life" (1981) fail the scientific method test). Most of his well-known books contain results that he contributes to 'morphic resonance'. Only Sheldrake truly knows what 'Morphic resonance' is. It is no more empirical than L. Ron Hubbard's 'engram',  the alleged source of all mental and physical illness. According to other sources, he appears to favor metaphysics over science, though he thinks he can do the former but call it the latter. Every well-known book contains descriptions of things like telepathy and other fictional content; scientists who attempt to apply the scientific method to his results thus far have not been able to replicate them. They -- his books -- may be interesting to read, but they are no more scientific than Harry Potter is, even if he claims they are. What's ironic is that he did get a P.H.D. in biochemistry, yet he abuses that P.H.D. to attempt to erode the public's understanding of science.Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake, http://skepdic.com/morphicres.html, https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cr … mysteries, https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 … e-delusion

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@54-55, first, please stop double-posting. Edit your post if you'd like to add content to it. Second, no, I have not heard of him. Do remember, however, that just because someones ideas seem "rational" does not mean they are correct. In particular, according to various sources, Shelldrake's ideas have never been subjected to the peer-review process (and the ideals he proposed in the book "A New Science of Life" (1981) fail the scientific method test). Most of his well-known books contain results that he contributes to 'morphic resonance'. Only Sheldrake truly knows what 'Morphic resonance' is. It is no more empirical than L. Ron Hubbard's 'engram',  the alleged source of all mental and physical illness. According to other sources, he appears to favor metaphysics over science, though he thinks he can do the former but call it the latter. Every well-known book contains descriptions of things like telepathy and other fictional content; scientists who attempt to apply the scientific method to his results thus far have not been able to replicate them. They -- his books -- may be interesting to read, but they are no more scientific than Harry Potter is, even if he claims they are. What's ironic is that he did get a P.H.D. in biochemistry, yet he abuses that P.H.D. to attempt to erode the public's understanding of science.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@54-55, first, please stop double-posting. Edit your post if you'd like to add content to it. Second, no, I have not heard of him. Do remember, however, that just because someones ideas seem "rational" does not mean they are correct. In particular, according to various sources, Shelldrake's ideas have never been subjected to the peer-review process (and the ideals he proposed in the book "A New Science of Life" (1981) fail the scientific method test). Most of his well-known books contain results that hecontributes to 'morphic resonance'. Only Sheldrake truly knows what 'Morphic resonance' is. It is no more empirical than L. Ron Hubbard's 'engram',  the alleged source of all mental and physical illness. According to other sources, he appears to favor metaphysics over science, though he thinks he can do the former but call it the latter. Every well-known book contains descriptions of things like telepathy and other fictional content; the peer review process thus far has not been able to replicate his "experimental" results.

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Why is Shelldrake so disrespected by some members of the scientific comunity?Because his ideas are unconventional/diferent.As a matter of fact i think that hes ideas are qwite rational.

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@ Ethin That is true.I have a question?Do you know who Rupert Shelldrake is?

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@51-52, I understand that; the reason I am unwilling to debate the matter with you is because religion is an extremely touchy subject. Were I to confront a religious person with my reasons and logic for not believing in religion, and they maintained this "balance" you speak of, then they would accept my reasonig for what it is; hell, they may even agree with me on some of it (because not all of my reasons for refusing religion are scientific in nature, but logical as well). Were I to do the same with an extreme religious fanatic, they would curse me and do whatever else they could to make me look bad, short of outright character assassination (though some will even go that far). That is primarily why I do not associate myself with those kinds of individuals, but do associate with those who are willing to understand my reasoning and debate the subject with me in a rational and sensible manner, if they so choose.

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@51-52, I understand that; the reason I am unwilling to debate the matter with you is because religion is an extremely touchy subject. Were I to confront a religious person my reasons and logic for not believing in religion, and they maintained this "balance" you speak of, then they would accept my reasonig for what it is; hell, they may even agree with me on some of it (because not all of my reasons for refusing religion are scientific in nature, but logical as well). Were I to do the same with an extreme religious fanatic, they would curse me and do whatever else they could to make me look bad, short of outright character assassination (though some will even go that far). That is primarily why I do not associate myself with those kinds of individuals.

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@ Ethin Sory for making this an argument religion vs atheism, but The humans must learn not to attack ideas so much.We have our minds open for those useless battles.I amWe have to find balance.

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Not really refusing to accept religion but why do they need to go so far.As a person  i am not religious, but certainly not an atheist ither,  both of them are extremes you allways need to find a balance between two opposit ideas.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@49, I don't think that accepting or refusing to accept religion is any kind of arrogance. But I'm not going to debate tat with you (that's a sticky subject anyway). And no, math and science cannot explain everything. But it can sufficiently explain most things that things that it can't explain are few and far between.

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When i am talking about idealised science i refer to certain individuals like Lawrence Krauss and Richard Dawkins .They are o arogant that they can no evin accept the part of religion in our society

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@ ethin I think you can agree that math can truely explain evry thing probably we need other alternatives too.

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@46, your right, and no scientist (including myself) will obey science like a god. To conduct a scientific experiment, we use existing knowledge. For example, if we wanted to conduct an experiment on gravity, we would use the prior knowledge of the earths rotation, terminal velocity, and so on and blend that knowledge into our experiment to reason about an outcome. I have always said that "math is the language of the universe". Science would say that this is true because mathematics is one of the ways we generate theories. We then take those mathematics and attempt to implement them practically. That is when experimentation comes into play.However, a similar argument could be made about anything else: you shouldn't idolize anything like a god. If you boil the universe down to the most primitive of things, then it becomes a jumbled list of theories, evidence, probability and so on.

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@ Ethin The bases of science is maths.But math can not allways represent the reality.I love science and math but just because it is a good too it should not be idealised like a god.

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There is need for religion, in a moral framework.But from another stand point no.uch mathematical We must accept the fact the if a thing is discovered and we find impirical evidence, it must be true.If some one is to scientific bassed, it must become more versed in spirituality.The same thing goes in reverse.

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@43, do you have any proof to back that claim up? Modern science is all about theories and evidence to prove or disprove those theories. Science standards are high, true, but those standards have to be where they're at when we have Conn artists and businesses making fraudulent claims about medicines that supposedly work but really don't.

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@ Ethin That is true, i do not value religion very much ither.But impirical evidence is to strictly applyed in modern science.

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@38, I do wish you luck on your adventure, then. I -- and any other scientist who you discuss something like this with -- will be open to the idea that there is "something more" out there (we have, you know, been searching for xtra-terrestrial life for over 4 decades). Even though we have found nothing thus far, we are still attempting to find it, holding onto the hope that there may be something out there. So we're completely open to anything new; that's Science in its most primitive form. But while we're open to it and would be excited about it, we won't fully accpet it until we can verify it.

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@ 38Where is your signature from?Can you go more in to the idea of balance.I want to know what you think about it.

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@36, I'm finding it very difficult to make sense of your post. Science and religion are two very different things. Science is based on verifiable, reproducible and objective (i.e. empirical) evidence. Can a scientific "fact" be disproved? Sure it can, thats the hole nature of science: we're open to new theories and proofs and will be happy to adopt them if thy hold up to the high standards of science. All you need to do to prove this is to look up the evolution of the various atomic models: Democritus's model about ultimate structure was at war with Aristotle's concept of indefinite subdivision. Neither was fully able to be proven until the scientific revolution came along in the 17th century. During this time, experimental evidence became the ultimate arbiter of the validity of hypotheses. John Dalton later agreed with Democritus in 1803. Sir J. J. Thomson later expanded upon Daltons model in 1897. Lord Ernest Rutherford tested Thomson's model, and his model soon replaced Thomson's. The problem with Rutherford’s evidence is that while it supported his model, it did not, and could not, prove that the model was the right one. May other models replaced Rutherford's until they settled on the one we now have, the quantum mechanical model.On the other hand, Religion is based on belief and faith alone. Nothing empirical is able to prove that eligion trumps science in pretty much anything. Look at quick creationism as an example: at frist those who believed in it claimed that the universe had been created in six days each spanning 24 hours. When science clearly demonstrated that such a thing was impossible, using the empirical evidence that it had gathered thus far, the quick creationism theory then claimed that the universe had been created within 12-15 billion years, completely changing its story. As such, usually it is science that trumps religion and forces religion to adapt; Religion has not thus far gaind a major foothold over Science -- or any foothold at all -- because faith and belief cannot explain everything.

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By lak of evidence you can not disprove a theory.True or false insignificant, but rather you should learn from many sources.Metaphysics, religion, mithology astrology, but without falling in to the trap of knowledge.Without beaing to dogmatic atheism, christianity, rationalism, idealism.All of them extrems and very similar at the same time.

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Look,  I like to think  Astral Projection could be an actual  thing,  with some limits. I'm  not precisely sure how a blind person could do this without  deep concentration and practice; it might be easy for sighted individuals who can have a frame of reference.  In particular,  reading part I of Phase, looking into a mirror  isn't going to happen without us knowing  what  our  reflection would  look like.  Having  no sight at all, this would be difficult. Not  that it couldn't  happen, but looking into a mirror probably shouldn't be the first thing you try for a completely blind person, perhaps  something a bit more,  sensory.  To us,  or  me, in particular,  sight is a mere conceptual idea. Nothing more. I can't at all understand  what  sight is or how it works; all I know is that I don't have it and therefore it is useless to me. @Ethan,  I  can see where you are coming from.  Science  shouldn't  be  outright not taken into consideration.  I like to think that what we have now could be considered reality  and  all that.  Otherwise I'd  be insane.  At the same time, however, in my mind, there's  got to be something else out there.  Maybe a consciousness, maybe  something completely different that can't necessarily be proved by a bunch of numbers and some cranky old men sitting at office chairs all day. Even if in the scientific idea  Astral  Projection/Phase/whatever  isn't  real,  I'd like to think that  there's  something out  there  that could give me a positive experience and could actually help me in my actual real life.  Whether it's  god,  or  astral projection  or  something else,  I'm  going to find  it; I'm going to go searching for whatever it is that'll keep my life balanced. I'm not  saying  you're wrong for putting you're actual theories out there, and putting you're actual scientific stuff out there,  but  I'd  also suggest  that you should try it with the intent to experience something that you may not have thought possible before. For all you know, you could be missing out because you're  stuck in the scientific  bubble of logic, numbers, graphs, and charts.  Or  not,  maybe  science is enough to keep you're life grounded in the knowledge  that what's out there is  what's  out there and nothing changes. Just  saying.

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Fuck me this is stupid ...

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@ Ethen The type of  science that we are facing today is mainly materialistic and preaty far from objective.Objective or or impirical evidence does not mean true.Science is like this.It says:If  we asume this then we get that result.Evin maths is bassed on axioms that can not be proved with math alone.One of the great scientists put it like this "If you want to resolve a problem then you must rise above it"True for science as well.So evin science like religion has it's dogmatism,Science should stop forcing impirical asummtions.

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If we are talking about astral projection being an actual travel to the stars while out of body then I agree with you. There is no evidence of such travels existing because it's just a mith to trick people into spending money. During my out of body experiences I have not meet any supernatural entities, nor have I visited the stars. The mind is very prone to ilusion during that state, in other words, you can control your surroundings with just a thought. It's not surprising that many people induced them selves a simmulation of travelling to the stars. For me it was impossible to induce such experience because, having no sight atall, I have no sensory experiences representing the stars, they're just an abstract concept.

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@33, astral projection is different from an "out-of-body experience". Various studies have been conducted involving OBes: the International Academy of Consciousness - Global Survey in 1999, the Miss Z study in 1968, the Olaf Blanke studies during an unknown year, the Ehrsson study in 2007, the Awareness during Resuscitation Study in 2001, the AWARE Study 2 in 2016, and this one in 2014. But there have been no studies on what we would call 'astral projection'. Perhaps that study will help us understand out-of-body experiences, but it will not help us understand 'astral project'/'phasing'.

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@33, astral projection is different from an "out-of-body experience". Various studies have been conducted involving OBes: the International Academy of Consciousness - Global Survey in 1999, the Miss Z study in 1968, the Olaf Blanke studies during an unknown year, the Ehrsson study in 2007, the Awareness during Resuscitation Study in 2001, the AWARE Study 2 in 2016, and this one in 2014. But there have been no studies on what we would call 'astral projection'. Perhaps that study will help us understand out-of-body experiences.I'm not saying that astral projection is completely and utterly impossible. If that's the kind of message you got from my posts, that's definitely not what I was getting at. I am stating that, though the supernatural may exist, there is no actual "scientific evidence" to suggest that it does, so it is much, much harder to accurately verify any claim involving it.

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Astral projection is not the term I preffer, it's a term used by merchants to sell their product, to make it more appealing. I preffer the term phase, since it is just another phase of awareness. There are people that can voluntarily induce out of body experiences, however this is extremely difficult for an occasional phaser because it involves lots of effort. There has been a study in 2014 involving a healthy woman being able to have out of body experiences at will, you can find the study at the following link:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3918960/Has it been reproduced? yes. Has it been observed? clearly, as you can read in this study. Can you experiment with it? of course, there's lots of experimentation going on when you have a phase. As I said in a previous post, and this is just a personal opinion derived from my previous out of body experiences, it's just a shift of awareness and the mind filters the experience in such a way that it's ireproducible because you can't enter the phase with the same mindset and under the same conditions each time. The mind tries to put logic behind something that has none, it tries to interfere and mingle with the experience in such a way as to make it as rational as possible.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Astral projection is not the term I preffer, it's a term used by merchants to sell their product, to make it more appealing. I preffer the term phase, since it is just another phase of awareness. There are people that can voluntarily induce out of body experiences, however this is extremely difficult for an everyday phaser because it involves lots of effort. There has been a study in 2014 involving a healthy woman being able to have out of body experiences at will, you can find the study at the following link:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3918960/Has it been reproduced? yes. Has it been observed? clearly, as you can read in this study. Can you experiment with it? of course, there's lots of experimentation going on when you have a phase. As I said in a previous post, and this is just a personal opinion derived from my previous out of body experiences, it's just a shift of awareness and the mind filters the experience in such a way that it's ireproducible because you can't enter the phase with the same mindset and under the same conditions each time. The mind tries to put logic behind something that has none, it tries to interfere and mingle with the experience in such a way as to make it as rational as possible.

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@31, my intentions were to answer the ops question. Shitting on the topic was a side effect of that, I suppose.

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What's your objective here? Honestly, it just seems like you want to come in and shit on something just for the sake of shitting on it; which, I find rather immature. There are times I would very much like to do the same, because the person or persons' views just have no basis in logic or reality to me, but I refrain to keep the peace.

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@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?Second, science (or, rather, scientists) have generally accepted the existence of consciousness (because, at its most basic definition, its being self-aware -- aware of ones internal and external existence). Is it still being heavily debated? Sure thing! But is it as theoretical, as impossible to reproduce as astral projection is? Nope -- we actively reproduce consciousness every day, and experiments (by willing participants) are being carried out probably as I write this.

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@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?Second, science (or, rather, scientists) have generally accepted the existence of consciousness (because, at its most basic definition, its being self-aware -- aware of ones internal and external existence). That's still a mystery though.

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@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?

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@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?I know I'm pushing this pretty hard, but pseudoscience is bad. Very, very bad. If you want a pretty good example, watch the tape entitled "Planet Earth about to be recycled. Your only chance to survive—leave with us." or read the transcript here. (It doesn't also help that religious individuals who have a bit of power are pushing their pseudoscientific beliefs to be taught alongside scientific teachings, or to outright replace them with those pseudoscientific -- and incorrect -- teachings, which would damage our future generations because those generations would teach their generations and so on until scientific data -- and science in general -- would just be a mere memory, easily forgotten.) Below I've quoted from the book that tapes summary (I've put it at the end of the post as to not annoy people):In early April 1997, the world was stunned to learn that a group of 39 people had committed the largest mass suicide in U.S. history in their communal home in Rancho Santa Fe, California. Dressed in black pants, flowing black shirts, and new, black Nike sneakers, their faces hidden by purple cloths, they had ingested a lethal dose of barbiturates mixed with applesauce, enhanced by a shot of vodka, and then helped along by the asphyxiating effect of a plastic bag over the head.Why, the world asked, did a group of seemingly intelligent individuals, possessing marketable skills, and comfortably housed in an upscale neighborhood, decide to kill themselves? They did it because of their belief that by committing suicide in this manner, they would shed their bodies, or “earthly containers,” and be whisked away by extraterrestrials to a spaceship and a higher level of existence. Unfortunately for them, their belief was pseudoscientific: It was erroneously regarded as scientific.And how did they arrive at this misguided belief? They arrived at it in a manner characteristic of many pseudoscientists: They received it from a charismatic leader, a man named Marshall Herff Applewhite. The “classmates,” as they called themselves, blindly and tragically accepted the teachings of someone whose deep-seated ideas about the universe were erroneous. Applewhite had convinced them of the existence of a gigantic alien spaceship, said to be following a comet that had been named Hale-Bopp (after the two astronomers who had first sighted it in July 1995). This spaceship was to take them home to the “literal Heavens.”Let’s compare the claim of Hale and Bopp two years earlier, that a comet was heading our way, and the claim by Marshall Herff Applewhite, that a gigantic alien spaceship was heading our way.Comets make exciting and dramatic viewing: a moving celestial object consisting of a head and a luminous tail that points away from the Sun. To test Hale and Bopp’s claim that the comet existed, other scientists aimed their telescopes at the location in the sky provided by Hale and Bopp. They too observed this comet. Eventually, the comet came so close to our planet that it was possible for people to see it with the unaided eye.The prospect of sighting a gigantic alien spaceship would also be exciting and dramatic. In fact, two members of the Heaven’s Gate commune decided they’d like to see the spaceship for themselves. In January 1997, when the comet could not be seen readily with the unaided eye, they purchased a telescope capable of providing a clear image of the comet. With this telescope, they observed the comet, but were unsuccessful in their attempt to observe the supposed spaceship. They then returned the telescope to the shop where they’d purchased it.Instead of deciding that their evidence did not support a belief in an alien spaceship, these people decided that they didn’t need physical evidence. They discarded the telescope—but not their belief. Clinging to this belief cost them their lives.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?I know I'm pushing this pretty hard, but pseudoscience is bad. Very, very bad. If you want a pretty good example, watch the tape entitled "Planet Earth about to be recycled. Your only chance to survive—leave with us." or read the transcript here. (It doesn't also help that religious individuals who have a bit of power are pushing their pseudoscientific beliefs to be taught alongside scientific teachings, or to outright replace them with those pseudoscientific -- and incorrect -- teachings, which would damage our future generations because those generations would teach their generations and so on until scientific data -- and science in general -- would just be a mere memory, easily forgotten.) Below I've quoted from the book its summary (I've put it at the end of the post as to not annoy people):In early April 1997, the world was stunned to learn that a group of 39 people had committed the largest mass suicide in U.S. history in their communal home in Rancho Santa Fe, California. Dressed in black pants, flowing black shirts, and new, black Nike sneakers, their faces hidden by purple cloths, they had ingested a lethal dose of barbiturates mixed with applesauce, enhanced by a shot of vodka, and then helped along by the asphyxiating effect of a plastic bag over the head.Why, the world asked, did a group of seemingly intelligent individuals, possessing marketable skills, and comfortably housed in an upscale neighborhood, decide to kill themselves? They did it because of their belief that by committing suicide in this manner, they would shed their bodies, or “earthly containers,” and be whisked away by extraterrestrials to a spaceship and a higher level of existence. Unfortunately for them, their belief was pseudoscientific: It was erroneously regarded as scientific.And how did they arrive at this misguided belief? They arrived at it in a manner characteristic of many pseudoscientists: They received it from a charismatic leader, a man named Marshall Herff Applewhite. The “classmates,” as they called themselves, blindly and tragically accepted the teachings of someone whose deep-seated ideas about the universe were erroneous. Applewhite had convinced them of the existence of a gigantic alien spaceship, said to be following a comet that had been named Hale-Bopp (after the two astronomers who had first sighted it in July 1995). This spaceship was to take them home to the “literal Heavens.”Let’s compare the claim of Hale and Bopp two years earlier, that a comet was heading our way, and the claim by Marshall Herff Applewhite, that a gigantic alien spaceship was heading our way.Comets make exciting and dramatic viewing: a moving celestial object consisting of a head and a luminous tail that points away from the Sun. To test Hale and Bopp’s claim that the comet existed, other scientists aimed their telescopes at the location in the sky provided by Hale and Bopp. They too observed this comet. Eventually, the comet came so close to our planet that it was possible for people to see it with the unaided eye.The prospect of sighting a gigantic alien spaceship would also be exciting and dramatic. In fact, two members of the Heaven’s Gate commune decided they’d like to see the spaceship for themselves. In January 1997, when the comet could not be seen readily with the unaided eye, they purchased a telescope capable of providing a clear image of the comet. With this telescope, they observed the comet, but were unsuccessful in their attempt to observe the supposed spaceship. They then returned the telescope to the shop where they’d purchased it.Instead of deciding that their evidence did not support a belief in an alien spaceship, these people decided that they didn’t need physical evidence. They discarded the telescope—but not their belief. Clinging to this belief cost them their lives.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?I know I'm pushing this pretty hard, but pseudoscience is bad. Very, very bad. If you want a pretty good example, watch the tape entitled "Planet Earth about to be recycled. Your only chance to survive—leave with us." or read the transcript here. (It doesn't also help that religious individuals who have a bit of power are pushing their pseudoscientific beliefs to be taught alongside scientific teachings, or to outright replace them with those pseudoscientific -- and incorrect -- teachings, which would damage our future generations because those generations would teach their generations and so on until scientific data -- and science in general -- would just be a mere memory, easily forgotten.)

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?I know I'm pushing this pretty hard, but pseudoscience is bad. Very, very bad. If you want a pretty good example, watch the tape entitled "Planet Earth about to be recycled. Your only chance to survive—leave with us." or read the transcript here. It doesn't also help that religious individuals who have a bit of power are pusing their pseudoscientific beliefs to be taught alongside scientific teachings, or to outight replace them, which would damage our future generations.)

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@29, first, its not just about whether something can be proven objectively. Its also about whether something is verifiable and whether something can both be proved and disproved under the right circumstances and/or in the right environment, i.e.: it can be reproducible. The scientific method -- observations, hypothesis, prediction, experimentation, and recycling -- fails spectacularly when you try testing Astral projection against it. I wonder why that is? Perhaps its because astral projection is purely theoretical and has no basis in reality (but, instead, in fiction)?I know I'm pushing this pretty hard, but pseudoscience is bad. Very, very bad. If you want a pretty good example, watch the tape entitled "Planet Earth about to be recycled. Your only chance to survive—leave with us." (It doesn't also help that religious individuals who have a bit of power are pusing their pseudoscientific beliefs to be taught alongside scientific teachings, or to outight replace them, which would damage our future generations.)

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Of course science can't prove that astral projection exists, science can't even prove the existence of consciousnes. You can't observe consciousnes objectively, you can't take it apart and observe it's components and it stil exists. Dave calmers beautifuly said at a conference in 1994, university of Arizona:The brain, Chalmers began by pointing out, poses all sorts of problems to keep scientists busy. How do we learn, store memories, or perceive things? How do you know to jerk your hand away from scalding water, or hear your name spoken across the room at a noisy party? But these were all “easy problems”, in the scheme of things: given enough time and money, experts would figure them out. There was only one truly hard problem of consciousness, Chalmers said. It was a puzzle so bewildering that, in the months after his talk, people started dignifying it with capital letters – the Hard Problem of Consciousness – and it’s this: why on earth should all those complicated brain processes feel like anything from the inside? Why aren’t we just brilliant robots, capable of retaining information, of responding to noises and smells and hot saucepans, but dark inside, lacking an inner life? And how does the brain manage it? How could the 1.4kg lump of moist, pinkish-beige tissue inside your skull give rise to something as mysterious as the experience of being that pinkish-beige lump, and the body to which it is attached?"Science is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us about red and blue, bitter and sweet, beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously."—Erwin Schrodinger, a Nobel prize winning physicist

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@27, you can make all the claims that astral projection is real all you like. However, what someone sees is not always what is real. The mind is capable of playing illusions on us that make us believe that what we are seeing is real when it really doesn't exist at all.Have you ever heard of the psychic named Ingo Swann? Perhaps you have, perhaps you haven't. Swann claimed that he had "projected" himself to Jupter and gave 65 "revelations." Some of those revelations were quite specific. The spacecraft known as Mariner 10 and Pioneer 10 went out to verify his claims. The breakdown:1) 11 of his claims were correct but available in existing reading materials.2) only 1 claim was correct but unavailable in available reading materials.3) 7 of his claims were correct but obvious.4) 5 were scientific speculation.5) 9 were unverifiable because they were too vague.6) 30 were definitely wrong.7) 2 were probably wrong.If we give this guy the benefit of the doubt (the best-case scenario), this totals to a very sad, and very low, thirty-seven percent accuracy.Yes, there are things that transcend logic. There are things that transcend our understanding, too. Astral projection is not one of those things. You are hypothesizing that astral projection does exist and is possible. You cannot prove or disprove this hypothesis, however. Hence, it fails the test of science. At this point it is purely theoretical. Trust me, there are far more examples of pseudoscience that I can provide to you. If those examples don't enlighten you, I don't know what will. Belief can only take you so far in a case like this; sometime down the road you will be asked to prove your belief and will be unable to.

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@27, you can make all the claims that astral projection is real all you like. However, what someone sees is not always what is real. The mind is capable of playing illusions on us that make us believe that what we are seeing is real when it really doesn't exist at all.Have you ever heard of the psychic named Ingo Swann? Perhaps you have, perhaps you haven't. Swann claimed that he had "projected" himself to Jupter and gave 65 "revelations." Some of those revelations were quite specific. The spacecraft known as Mariner 10 and Pioneer 10 went out to verify his claims. The breakdown:1) 11 of his claims were correct but available in existing reading materials.2) only 1 claim was correct but unavailable in available reading materials.3) 7 of his claims were correct but obvious.4) 5 were scientific speculation.5) 9 were unverifiable because they were too vague.6) 30 were definitely wrong.7) 2 were probably wrong.If we give this guy the benefit of the doubt (the best-case scenario), this totals to a very sad, and very low, thirty-seven percent accuracy.Yes, there are things that transcend logic. There are things that transcend our understanding, too. Astral projection is not one of those things. You are hypothesizing that astral projection does exist and is possible. You cannot prove or disprove this hypothesis, however. Hence, it fails the test of science. At this point is purely theoretical.

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@27, you can make all the claims that astral projection is real all you like. However, what someone sees is not always what is real. The mind is capable of playing illusions on us that make us believe that what we are seeing is real when it really doesn't exist at all.Have you ever heard of the psychic named Ingo Swann? Perhaps you have, perhaps you haven't. Swann claimed that he had "projected" himself to Jupter and gave 65 "revelations." Some of those revelations were quite specific. The spacecraft known as Mariner 10 and Pioneer 10 went out to verify his claims. The breakdown:1) 11 of his claims were correct but available in existing reading materials.2) only 1 claim was correct but unavailable in available reading materials.3) 7 of his claims were correct but obvious.4) 5 were scientific speculation.5) 9 were unverifiable because they were too vague.6) 30 were definitely wrong.7) 2 were probably wrong.If we give this guy the benefit of the doubt (the best-case scenario), this totals to a very sad, and very low, thirty-seven percent accuracy.Yes, there are things that transcend logic. There are things that transcend our understanding, too. Astral projection is not one of those things.

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2019-10-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Bro, life isn't always about what can be proven and disproved, there are things that transcend logic. Have you ever saw the movie Contact, if not, you probably should. It's an older one, released sometime in the mid 90s.

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2019-10-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

OK, this post is going to rattle a few people. I don't really care though, I'd rather dispel the pseudoscience that this topic is overflowing with.Astral projection is pseudoscience, just as astrology is. An astral projection is just your mind playing tricks on you -- it is not actually real. Any claims that say you can are usually made by those who make the claims in such a way that they are nonfalsifiable. Science always requires a claim to be falsifiable. In other words: claims of astral projection being real are impossible to disprove. Science requires that claims be disprovable. Therefore, astral projection does not exist and cannot be done because it does not hold up to even the simplest of scientific scrutiny. Same with "out of body experiences" or "near-death experiences" where a victim claims to have "seen god." There's a hole book on all of this... go read it: Quantum Leaps in the Wrong Direction: Where Real Science Ends...and Pseudoscience Begins.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ethin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Astral projection is pseudoscience, just as astrology is. An astral projection is just your mind playing tricks on you -- it is not actually real. Any claims that say you can are usually made by those who make the claims in such a way that they are nonfalsifiable. Science always requires a claim to be falsifiable.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

No, a blind person can't astral project, because ... no one can. Sorry to break it to you.

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There is no reason to fear.I have to find some thing beyond ration and imotion.A tipe of tranquility.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@21 I think if this is a shift of awareness then It must be shifting to your unconcious self.Only because  shifting needs some thing .You must know to what object are you shifting your awareness.The thing with me is that i want to see that in reality i can not.@ 22 Low mood?Do we count the emptyness mentioned by the philosopher JeanPaul Sartre?As long as i will be in this existential state will i be aibel to do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ogomez92 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

It can be done. But you need to be free of bockages especially in your solar plexus. If your self esteem is low, or you have something else blocking it like anxiety, restlessness, whatever, it'll be impossible.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : tseth42 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Hi there all:As for whether or not astral projection is possible, my take is that it isn't so much whether a person can do it, but whether we remember doing it, since many of its proponents claim, and I believe personally, that we all do it whenever we go to sleep.I'm no expert on it, but I've done it enough times that although it can be disconcerting to a beginner due to the unexpected sensory experiences that precede it, it will if nothing else change how you see yourself and will make you question what you thought you know about reality.There are, as has been said, lots of methods for getting to that place where you can induce it consciously, but one thing to note about visualization.Most sighted people can't visualize any better then we can, so a more apt term might be to imagine, but that suggests that something doesn't exist so may also have it's own subconscious block, so it may be necessary to create one's own terminology to make it past that block.I tend to go with the Monroe concept of astral projection  being more a shift of awareness rather then the spirit popping out of the body and I don't think you can take over another's body, and if I am wrong and someone's occasionally taken over mine, well I do hope they had fun with it and drove it responsiblyh...Just kidding.Take care all... happy travels!

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Ah you're talking about my signature. I think it's from the book called "different seasons" but I'm not entirely sure about that.

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2019-10-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : wing of eternity via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Our life makes no sence in the end, if we only experience one side of this reality and only an impirical understanding of it.On the other hand, as #17  i described , we need to have a greate type of maind power.But how can you tryck your mind in to accepting that in the astral raulm you do not have to use logic?@17: In witch book did Steven King  say that?

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I think schience can not explain those fenomenon, because it relies purely on impirical logic, bassed in our 5 sences and and does not  go in to the ideas about  energyfrequence and more in to conciousness but only impirical evidence.

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2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Astral projection is a topic that's been debated for years and everyone involved has a theory or an other. The fact is that it's real, you can experience it if you learn the techniques to do so and it can be experienced by everyone. The main advantage for me is that it made me question everything, reality, dreams, who we really are and what we can achieve if we really put our minds to it. The experience is indistinguishable from reality, it feels real to an unnatural degree, sometimes even surreal because you can do things that you can't even think of in the real world. I tend to incline more towards astral projection being a shift of awareness. More like you are pure awareness but this awareness gets filtered through the mind and the body that's why we are able to comprehend and remember the experience. During the entering and leaving stages you can feel some very unnatural things, things that, I believe, our mind couldn't simulate. These include intense vibrations, it's like you're electricuted but you feel no pain, loud noises, sometimes as loud as church bells and the sensation of leaving the body, it's like swimming through mud, you really have to struggle to get out of the body. Then there's the reentering stage where you feel a strong jolt and, a while after that, you perceive the weight of your body, it's like you've been on the moon for a while and you returned to earth for the hollyday. The experience itself is amazing and intriguing at the same time. To me it looks like your mind tries to get you back, it tries to modify and mingle with everything you do because it wants to make sense of everything, it wants to put logic behind something that has no logic atall so it filters the experience in a way that you only get glimpses of what pure awareness feels like. Let me give you a simple example. In that reality you are pure awareness, you have no substance so you can act in any way you want, you can pass through walls for instance. It's not as simple as it seems though because if you think about passing through the wall infront of you it will not work. The mind reasons that it's not a logical thing to do and wouldn't let you do it. If you focus on the point behind the wall though, it's like the wall doesn't even exist even if you touched it seconds ago, you can walk through it like walking through air. The mind is a very strong filter, and you have to be really clever to bypass that.

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2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Astral projection is a topic that's been debated for years and everyone involved has a theory or an other. The fact is that it's real, you can experience it if you learn the techniques to do so and it can be experienced by everyone. The main advantage for me is that it made me question everything, reality, dreams, who we really are and what we can achieve if we really put our minds to it. The experiences is indistinguishable from reality, it feels real to an unnatural degree, sometimes even surreal because you can do things that you can't even think of in the real world. I tend to incline more towards astral projection being a shift of awareness. More like you are pure awareness but this awareness gets filtered through the mind and the body that's why we are able to comprehend and remember the experience. During the entering and leaving stages you can feel some very unnatural things, things that, I believe, our mind couldn't simulate. These include intense vibrations, it's like you're electricuted but you feel no pain, loud noises, sometimes as loud as church bells and the sensation of leaving the body, it's like swimming through mud, you really have to struggle to get out of the body. Then there's the reentering stage where you feel a strong jolt and, a while after that, you perceive the weight of your body, it's like you've been on the moon for a while and you returned to earth for the hollyday. The experience itself is amazing and intriguing at the same time. To me it looks like your mind tries to get you back, it tries to modify and mingle with everything you do because it wants to make sense of everything, it wants to put logic behind something that has no logic atall so it filters the experience in a way that you only get glimpses of what pure awareness feels like. Let me give you a simple example. In that reality you are pure awareness, you have no substance so you can act in any way you want, you can pass through walls for instance. It's not as simple as it seems though because if you think about passing through the wall infront of you it will not work. The mind reasons that it's not a logical thing to do and wouldn't let you do it. If you focus on the point behind the wall though, it's like the wall doesn't even exist even if you touched it seconds ago, you can walk through it like walking through air. The mind is a very strong filter, and you have to be really clever to bypass that.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : bgt lover via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Is astral projection useful in any relevant way,If astral projection means your mind leaving your body, couldn't it enter anothers body or influence a person at a subcouncious level, in the persons dreams?

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2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : CAE_Jones via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

@14: the scientific consensus is that it is indistinguishable from semi-lucid dreaming. You'll notice a lot of lucid dreaming guides that sound suspiciously similar to astral projection guides, and so too for audio meant to help enter the state also being similar. I won't opine one way or the other here.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : bgt lover via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I never knew astral projection really exists, I'm not the kind that could believe in something that is not grounded in science and logic, for example, math exists, anything that exists and is correct according to our logic can be proven through math, hell, even math itself can be proven through math. For example, the simple, elementary operation of 1+1=2 could be proven true, even if it takes several pages to do it properly, it can still be done.All that aside, what can astral projection be used for?Is it even real?What if the sensation is simulated by your mind, knowing what the aproximative sensation could be like and the mind just gives us what we want by emulating it to make us feel that we've done it?If it really exists, how could I do it properly with my current mind set?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Does any one think that the astral world is the world of forms described by  Plato? A world where evry thing is perfect, or Does it have some thing to do with your third eye?Is your  third eye open in the astral playn?

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2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : drums61999 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Rope technique was invented by Robert Bruce specificly for a blind student of his.There are lots of good books and methods to use. Robert Bruce, and Robert Monroe, are my two favorite authors on the subject.When I have done it, it was like what I see in dreams. I know what is around me, but I have as much actual vision as I do waking. It is more an intrinsic knowing.As far as your question about what happens to the spirit? Well, that's the question everyone is trying to answer. My personal belief is that it's where it always is, it's just focused somewhere else. You're not leaving your body an empty shell by any means. I actually think Robert Monroe has it right and it's more a phasing of awareness rather than an actual projection.One tip, which I am admittedly bad at, is to write down your dreams. A stronger dream recall means you're focusing on that aspect of your consciousness, which will bring it into focus more and make it easier on your attempts.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Of course blind people can do astral projection, I've done it myself countless times. The method I use is very simple. I relax my body for a few minutes by doing breathing exercises. Then I Immagine my arms moving, like doing backstroke when swimming. I focus all my thoughts on this, I let my mind and body fall asleep and eventually I can drag myself out of the body by doing a backstroke. I feel like swimming in a very thick water at first as my spirit leaves the body but afterwards all is fine.I derived my method from the book "THE PHASEA Practical Guidebook for Lucid Dreaming and Out-of-Body Travel" which you can find here for free: https://obe4u.com/lucid-dreaming-books-free/The method presented in this book is the simplest yet the most effective I've seen. I too before finding this one tried the rope technique and other visualization ones but the main problem is that, I believe, for us blind folks is much harder to propperly concentrate on something if you don't have sight. Even the word visualize creates a blockage in your mind which prevents you from using this method effectively, in your subconscious you know that it's a waste of time to visualize something if you have no sight.Anyway, I hope the book will be as usefull to you as it was for me. Enjoy. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

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2019-10-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mastodont via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Of course blind people can do astral projection, I've done it myself countless times. The method I use is very simple. I relax my body for a few minutes by doing breathing exercises. Then I Immagine my arms moving, like doing backstroke when swimming. I focus all my thoughts on this, I let my mind and body fall asleep and eventually I can drag myself out of the body by doing a backstroke. I feel like swimming in a very thick water at first as my spirit leaves the body but afterwards all is fine.I derived my method from the book "THE PHASEA Practical Guidebook for Lucid Dreaming and Out-of-Body Travel" which you can find here for free: THE PHASEA Practical Guidebook for Lucid Dreaming and Out-of-Body TravelThe method presented in this book is the simplest yet the most effective I've seen. I too before finding this one tried the rope technique and other visualization ones but the main problem is that, I believe, for us blind folks is much harder to propperly concentrate on something if you don't have sight. Even the word visualize creates a blockage in your mind which prevents you from using this method effectively, in your subconscious you know that it's a waste of time to visualize something if you have no sight.Anyway, I hope the book will be as usefull to you as it was for me. Enjoy. If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask.

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I'm kind of scared to try astral projection after an experience I had with trying to lift myself telekinetically.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Hi.Can blind people astral project? Of course!I've parcially astral projected.Going to r/astralprojection on reddit and subscribing would help I think, as you can read up on many ways to do it there.I do what I call belly breathing, I don't know if there's another name for it but here's the steps:1. Ly down with some music that will relax you, or just ly down if you can relax without music. I prefer music as it allows me to focus on a sound.2. Breathe in through your nose making your belly as as big and round as you can, hold it for a couple seconds and release the breath through your nose, making sure your belly is asflat as it can go, then push a little more if you can.3. Breathe in slowly through the nose.repeat this for a couple times and you should feel relaxed enough to feel tingles or like you're floating.I kept doing this belly breathing until I was super relaxed and then felt the vibration stages.Then I felt myself moving up and down, left and right and then... My energy moved outside of me, it was for a couple of seconds but I felt it, i slipped sideways outside of myself and did a half circle then went back inside.I've also managed to feel my spirit hands move, they did full circles, over and over, like front crall when you're swimming.

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Keep in mind that visualization doesn't always have to be visual. If you can imagine something in your mind using any or all senses you have available, you can visualize. Take that rope thing, for example. Imagine how the rope's texture feels in your hands. Imagine how it sounds as you climb it. Imagine how it feels to climb a rope.As for astral projection itself, I've never done it. However, this may help.https://archive.org/details/AstralProje … ass_201611

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Re: astral projection can a blind person do it?

Keep in mind that visualization doesn't always have to be visual. If you can imagine something in your mind using any or all senses you have available, you can visualize. Take that rope thing, for example. Imagine how the rope's texture feels in your hands. Imagine how it sounds as you climb it. Imagine how it feels to climb a rope.As for astral projection itself, I've never done it. However, this may help.https://archive.org/stream/AstralProjec … n_djvu.txt

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