Re: can you tell me more about chrome os?
Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? Most people don't need super fast processors and 16 GB or more RAM if all they plan to do is access Facebook, read emails, watch Netflix, or play web games. The great thing about the Internet is most of the heavy lifting is done on someone else's computer, not your own. As I said before, the idea behind Chrome OS is brilliant! Give people an affordable conduit to the Internet. That's all people want. Post 18 is absolutely correct. If you want a system that lets you do more things offline, you shouldn't even be remotely thinking about Chrome OS. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605656/#p605656 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? Totally agreed with post 18. As much as I love my ThinkPad, which, btw comes out of sleep in about 5 seconds, I wish I could get 12 hours out of it. You have to remember that chromebooks, as much as I wouldn't bother getting one now has its purpose. For college students who just moved out and want something lightweight and cheap to type college notes on, to go to google classroom, Zoom, google, and possibly run light apps, etc. Its not meant to be a power PC with all the top notch ram and CPU's people on here seem to overvalue, its meant to be cheap, reliable computing. Sorta like a Toyota Corolla or a Toyota Prius. Sure they're dog boring and slow, but they have a purpose. Also to wrap it up, @Chris, you perfectly captured my opinion about the hardware. Its device specific, just like we have crappy UP windows machines, looking at you old PC, and then we have machines like what folks like Granny cheese and ghost has, but just because my computer literally snapped in half when I reached in and took out the SSD that doesn't suddenly mean windows is shit URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605650/#p605650 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? Totally agreed with post 17. As much as I love my ThinkPad, which, btw comes out of sleep in about 5 seconds, I wish I could get 12 hours out of it. You have to remember that chromebooks, as much as I wouldn't bother getting one now has its purpose. For college students who just moved out and want something lightweight and cheap to type college notes on, to go to google classroom, Zoom, google, and possibly run light apps, etc. Its not meant to be a power PC with all the top notch ram and CPU's people on here seem to overvalue, its meant to be cheap, reliable computing. Sorta like a Toyota Corolla or a Toyota Prius. Sure they're dog boring and slow, but they have a purpose. Also to wrap it up, @Chris, you perfectly captured my opinion about the hardware. Its device specific, just like we have crappy UP windows machines, looking at you old PC, and then we have machines like what folks like Granny cheese and ghost has, but just because my computer literally snapped in half when I reached in and took out the SSD that doesn't suddenly mean windows is shit URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605650/#p605650 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? @18, you have a point, sorry. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605645/#p605645 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? @11OK, so none of them points are actually negatives about Chrome OS, but the hardware you're running.So anyone who reads this thread looking for actual info, runs the risk of reading your post and going "Well, all Chrome OS devices are terrible, because this Gaki person says so", completely not getting the fact that either A: You installed an unofficial port on your own machine, or B: You bought - or were given - the cheapest Chrome OS device around, which was always going to be terrible by dint of having the specs of a broken abacus.@12OK, sorry, but there are so, so many things wrong with your post. I'll attempt to elucidate them:Chrome OS devices were not - in the beginning - aimed at "pro users". You say that Chrome OS is not really useful for a lot of people. Excluding the aforementioned "pro users", how many people do you know who do stuff that doesn't require a web browser? Zoom? Microsoft Teams? Microsoft Word? Pages? There are web interfaces for all of those.Second, that was in the beginning. Now Chrome OS has access to pretty much anything that Linux has access to thanks to Crostini. The fact that the accessibility leaves something to be desired does not mean it doesn't exist.While you're right about Chrome running fine on Windows, there's also a lot of other things Windows drags around with it. It's kind of like taking a helicopter to the local shop: It'll get you there, but damn it'll take up lots of fuel.On the subject of fuel: Have you seen the battery life you can get out of Chrome OS devices? It's like 12 hours on some models. Show me a comparably-priced Windows or - especially - Mac OS machine that does that.By saying about companies and what have you wanting more control over their people, I'm afraid you've completely missed the point of Chrome OS. Yes, it does have enterprise features, but so does Windows. When you go out and about with your laptop, are you being a pro? Do you write thousands of lines of code and hammer intensive games? Or do you just reply to a few emails and check the news? Because that's what "most" people do when they're out and about. And if you're going to do that, why not use a light, cool (as in temperature) laptop that will run all day on a single charge, and charges from a nice little USB C chord to boot, thus probably sharing a charging cable with your phone?Also, it's not a new architecture if you mean like ARM or x86, but I think I see your point. You're still largely wrong, because as you pointed out, it's just Chrome, so most people - including some folks who don't know the difference between a computer and a microwave - can still use it.You mention windows quite a lot of times in your post. It's probably your favourite OS - it's mine too, as it goes, but think about what you're saying: Why spend £400 on a kick ass Chrome machine that lets me play Candy Crush, read emails, talk to my Uncle Bob on the other side of the world, and do basic photo editing with a bunch of free apps, when I could spend £700 on an average Windows machine with a fraction of the battery life, that works about as fast, and has loads of shit I don't need?For myself, when I volunteer I use a Chromebook. I rarely write code there, I check emails, I toggle the phone on and off, I log calls, or I Google things for people. Why drag a Windows machine around with me? The Chrome Book I have was free with my Pixel 3, and it still comes out of sleep faster than my Lenovo ThinkPad.Oh yeah: Let's not forget that a new license for Windows is over £100. Chrome OS is essentially free, because you can download the correct recovery image for the machine you're using.Oh yeah: Let's not forget that a new license for Windows is over £100. Chrome OS is essentially free, because you can download the correct recovery image for the machine you're using.Also, on windows, I rarely have more than 3 windows open: CMD, Visual Studio Code, and Chrome. I have no less than 4 tabs open in chrome at any one time: Gmail, my text messages, WhatsApp web, and Spotify. Usually Slack too. All of these tabs open - and provide the same performance - on Chrome OS. See the pattern here? If I wasn't a coder, I might not even bother with a Windows machine.@14Yes, you're right: You can use the google male and female voices. I'm not sure what others are there, because I just stuck with the default.You can also use ESpeak. There's just another section where you can select its voices to download. Works great.I think you can also use any other TTS engine you can install on Android.@16Can you open up a full Bash shell on unmodified Android? View full sites rather than mobile ones with any extra work? Have so much control over the OS with the keyboard? I mean like reading the current time, battery status, reading the URL behind a link, switching between tabs, desks and windows? How about pinning, then shortcuts for opening up the things you
Re: can you tell me more about chrome os?
Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? @16 and 12, +1 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605577/#p605577 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? To be really honest here, I think google would have done a better job by far by investing in android further, rather than developing crome OS. For example, cromebooks would really be more attractive with an optimised version of android for pc's in stead of this thing. I mean, android in its default mode has way more things to offer than crome OS ever could, plus without changing critical settings or enabling things in developer mode, it's pretty hard to mess it up. The only problem with android is the your phone is too old, you don't get updates, policy. So, to conclude my set of rumblings yet again, I would never again use crome OS, though I used it before when my school gave it to me and I didn't personally like it. So, give me an android laptop/tablet/whatever over that any day!now back to the thingi, had anyone tryed the free and open source version of crome OS on a vm or comp? Did it have cromevox or not? Anyway, about the tts thingi, like whatever you have on your android and then some. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605539/#p605539 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? JayJay wrote:@11, come on man, can you give us more details? Like, as a user of it for several months give us more than the tts sucks or its a mistake or no fan, the fan had nothing to do with the OS. I mean, is windows suddenly shit because my last Lenovo didn't have a fan? Come nowok, if you insist,if I wanted to use chrome, i'd use it on my windows pc.the key skeem is annoying, it doesn't come with moutch space, hmm, what else, what else! oh, how about without internet this thing is a pile of computer parts! hmmm, what else, hm, aaarg I just don't bloody like it! and mite I say, most of the android games, if not all, do not ruddy work on chromebook! what was the point of the android compatibility? that enough for ya? well is it,also, when did I say it was shit because it had no fan? I never said such things.I just don't like pcs without them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605532/#p605532 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? JayJay wrote:@11, come on man, can you give us more details? Like, as a user of it for several months give us more than the tts sucks or its a mistake or no fan, the fan had nothing to do with the OS. I mean, is windows suddenly shit because my last Lenovo didn't have a fan? Come nowok, if you insist,if I wanted to use chrome, i'd use it on my windows pc.the key skeem is annoying, it doesn't come with moutch space, hmm, what else, what else! oh, how about without internet this thing is a pack of computer parts! hmmm, what else, hm, arrg I just don't bloody like it! and mite I say, most of the android games, if not all, do not ruddy work on chromebook! what was the of the android compatibility? that enough for ya? well is it, URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605532/#p605532 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? What Google TTS voices are available? I heard you can use the Google Assistant voice, is this true?I like the idea behind the system. It accommodates 99% of users that just want to go online. It automatically keeps itself up to date and is very difficult to mess up unless you know what you're doing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605527/#p605527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? What Google TTS voices are available? I heard you can use the Google Assistant voice, is this true?I like the idea behind the system. It accommodates 99% of users that just want to go online. It keeps itself up to date and is very difficult to mess up unless you know what you're doing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605527/#p605527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? What Google TTS voices are available? I heard you can use the Google Assistant voice, is this true? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605527/#p605527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? @11, come on man, can you give us more details? Like, as a user of it for several months give us more than the tts sucks or its a mistake or no fan, the fan had nothing to do with the OS. I mean, is windows suddenly shit because my last Lenovo didn't have a fan? Come now URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605526/#p605526 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? About my own views, I expressed them in my previous post on this topic, however I want to reiterate in case someone didn't get it then. I Don't know exactly why, maybe because I'm more of a kind of pro user, crome OS and all its variants never is or was for me. For example, its very nature makes it not really useful for a lot of people, like...it's just a browser spanning an entire damn OS. What's really that good or overly exciting about that? Want crome, just use crome browser on windows, ubuntu or even macs. Why an entirely new architecture and a new kind of computer just for crome alone? I mean, however many settings, useful new shortcuts, apps and the most part of the google suite it has, it will still be crome at its core, and so it shall remain. Maybe it's great for firms or big institutions who want more controll over their employers/students, as there is no other OS with that level of sandboxing built-in by default.However, for the rest of us, as much as crome OS is advertised, it's nothing better than crome itself if you really think about it. Maybe you couldn't do things crome OS does with cromium browsers without some a bit obscure extenssions, but it's certainly doable. If you use it for collaboration, crome is certainly up to the task, with google docs, sheets, slides, etc. If you want cromevox, I ask you, why? There is a good screen reader already built-in to windows that offers kind of what cromevox does, it's called narrator. If a pro level user, use nvda, or even ubuntu, no questions asked rofl.So now that I ranted enough about it, why do you use cromebooks guys? What is so special about it to you? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605522/#p605522 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? perhaps it was my pcs specs, but the screen reader would move slow and the audio would stutter. also the pc didn't, have! a! fan!I honestly think chrome books were a mistake URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605500/#p605500 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? @9Fair enough you hate it, but could you perhaps share why, so we can read an alternative viewpoint? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605495/#p605495 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? I hate chrome os with all of my soul!and chrome vox, it scks! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605438/#p605438 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? hellobig thanks to all for the responses and useful information URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605366/#p605366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? @6I really wish they would just remove that! People keep installing it and thinking it's shit, without realising it's an absolutely ancient version.I personally love Chrome OS: The battery life on the laptops (chrome books) is amazing, and the screen reader is functional, if not powerful. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605341/#p605341 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? I think there's a variant of Chromevox on the Chrome web store. Didn't work well at all when I tried it though; laggy and unresponsive. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605314/#p605314 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? hy guys!technically, you can install a variant of it on non-cromebook hardware, since its open source like android. I DK whether you'll have cromevox on it, or even if you do, I can't be sure you will have the google tts voices, so you'll have to install espeak with sighted assistance. I don't want to unintentionally spread missinformation here, so do take what I said above with a grain of sault.Btw, if you go this road of installing the opensource version of the os, be warned that not every feature available in the cromebooks will be by default integrated in your thing. Kind of what happens with installing the opensource version of android, without google APIs. For example, you won't be able to use the admin console, neither to use it your self, or to be controlled by it. This can be either a good or bad thing, depending how you're looking at it. Next, you can't run android or linux apps, like you could with the cromebooks. I DK more things off the top of my head, but I guess this would already make this only a fancy web browser spanning an entire OS. DK, it might be good for some people, but I never really liked the concept of crome OS and what it stands for.If you still want to install a variant of the crome OS with most features back and kind of like the same as on the cromebooks, look at cloudready's solution. They kind of reimplemented the missing features from the public build of crome OS, making them as similar to cromebooks as possible.Be ware, though, I never tested that, so you might not get cromevox installed on that, or, again even if you do, you might not have any tts included.Another option is to use the android emulator, it can emulate the crome OS too. Look at the avd(android virtual device manager) It should be in your android sdk, if not, check in the sdk manager, you might have forgotten to install the package with the emulator. If the command line doesn't work, I am afraid you will have to use an ide like android studio or vs with xamarin tools, which is a pain in the but for anyone who doesn't do programming in android land. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605302/#p605302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? i'm pritty sure, unleas its changed, you cant just install chrome os URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605297/#p605297 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? Your best place for everything Chromevox (including videos, the mailing list, etc), can be found at http://chromevox.com/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605296/#p605296 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: can you tell me more about chrome os? Hi.I don't know much about it, but I have had my hands on a Chrome book before.In answer to your first question, the screen reader is called ChromeVox, and it comes built into the OS. Just press Control Alt Z to enable it.As for how good it is, it may have improved, but the last time I used it I did not have a good experience URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/605266/#p605266 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
