Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Greetingsto who ever is the developer of ultra power nowif you are using the sounds from Old Ultra power listed below, please replace them with something else ASAP.the following audio files have been custom-made (designed/recorded/produced from the scratch) for Mason's and mine version of Ultra power by me, and I wanna see them replaced with something else ASAP:- auction- auctioncanceled- auctionwon- bid- cancelbid- cameraair- grassstep1 to 5- invswitch- key1 to 5- level- menuedge- menuenter- menumove- menumus- offline- online- v3die- v3name- v3p1- v3p2- v3p3- voff- von- wallgenerickeep in mind that I've designed most of the sounds, but these are the ones that I've made myself from the scratch.So, just replace, and I'll leave you alone to do whatever. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244788#p244788 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. @ns-studios, I find your post (post 56) highly illogical and stupid. Ultra Power shouldn't even be around any more. It's dead, alright? You don't have to come in, guns blazing, and yell at the dev of UP to change his sounds ASAP. You can't do much about it, anyways. UP is non-commertial, so you can't sue roelvdwal or the developer of this version of the game for anything, since He's gaining nothing from it. As for the rest of you, can you guys please delete this topic and all other topics related to UP? It's caused too much drama, and I feel it is time to wipe it from the forum completely. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244820#p244820 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Can you just shut up? For onese? Things wer just going back to normal... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244810#p244810 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Ok, ok, It's time to stop the drama.I respect the opinions of everyone on this forum. I understand why Sam, Ivan and Ethin want UP to die; it's been a source of non-stop drama among the community. However, I think roelvdwal is doing a good job of trying to separate UP from all the drama it's caused.@roelvdwal, you obviously know what you're doing. If you want to make UP better, go ahead. However, I'd change the name if I were you. Also, I wouldn't let the game's source code go willy-nilly around the net, unless you release it under some sort of license. (If you don't want to do that, at least put somewhere in the code that you don't want random people downloading the code and modifying it without your permition). URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244823#p244823 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-30
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Can you run the server, and criticwiew, can you modifi spawning of items? There are none. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244746#p244746 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. The server should be online, i'll check in a moment. As for items, as long as they are buggy, i cannot do much, but i'll give you an inventory... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244747#p244747 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-30
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hmm, any server does not work. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244749#p244749 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Criticview's server should work now. It's finally updated to the last version. But boy, did the server make a mess of telling us it was going to update... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244751#p244751 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. roelvdwal wrote:I think level actually doesn't determin anything about defence/damage etc. I think it's dependant on how many items you have.Not true, you can easyly see the difference between the inventory of someone with a level and someone without. On criticview there are added three items: health, damage and defence. On chars without a level, none of these items exist. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244742#p244742 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. roelvdwal wrote:I think level actually doesn't determin anything about defence/damage etc. I think it's dependant on how many items you have.Not true: take a look at the inventories of someone with a level, and someone without. Criticview for instance has three items more in his inventory: health=###, damage=### and defence=###. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244743#p244743 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. yes, but if you have let's say an ultralaser with 100 ammo, or 20 knives, that'll also increase your level. So it's just an indicator how many items someone hass. Now most of the items a high-level player will have are damage and defence and health, but weapons etc also count. Maybe I should change it so only damage/defence/health are counted.Now that I'm almost back home, I haave time to work on the code again. I'm not sure what's wrong with item spawning, have you added maps with the add_map command? if you haven't items won't spawn. Do too the feedback I'll postpown the 3d movement for now and focus on more important stuff like documentation and balancing what we have. The next update will probably feature a kustomisable store from a file and more documentation on new commands. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244768#p244768 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I think level actually doesn't determin anything about defence/damage etc. I think it's dependant on how many items you have. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244613#p244613 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. post 38 has a thumbs up from me. to be honest yes. roel is a good programmer. so guys, please stop the freaking hell this drama. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244496#p244496 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-28
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
ope. Sorry for double poasten, but the source's link doesn{t work for me, I just get an indexy page or ome kinda thing.
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-28
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
at ns studios.we've got the point. However, there's no need to really overcome with the f b i for this tiny reason. Of a code that has been leaked. Sure! blink w and vlad c sucked at there first try, but there might be a lesson for those 2 12 years olds.I hope btb gives them a really nice btb lesson as well, looking towards this that it didn{t really really worked as one expects it. It just went overm and over, and over.really guys. Just 3 thingies. A lets quit this ultramess, b lets look at roel as the official new owner of a real thing called up and c lets quit crying and throwing vlad and blink to the glue.at blink wizard.sorry, but your last post seemed so so freakin inmature. Yeah! btb might include some sort of similarities to up. Mind if I steal microsoft word 2016's source code, then edit and poo over it as you did and release a thing called makioworth? prologue:makioworth is a text editor, with a lot of advantages over th
e most popular text editors being sold in the market. It has a very similar structure to microsoft word's thing, produced by microsoft, as they have given us there code, cocks, and inspiration to leak the code, avoid security, cause drama and be arrested by the police. We thank you{ve bought our product and have fun with makioworth!really ivan. Nice, nice workie.
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. HiA few things in only one poast... You ready, because here we go...- The criticview server took care of those chars without inventories. Sorry it took so long, but I had to do everything manually, and only have limited time to do so.- UP going 3d seems a very nice idea, but (and this is only my opinion) to my mind the current things that are not working as they should, have to be either removed or fixed before going on to 3d. Those things include:- Charset level: no matter how you input it, no change is made- Server changes: make them rely on a file, not from the code. Odd maybe, but gives way more flexibility to insert own changes than going through the code and maybe forgetting something.- Character logs: in order to give out banns propperly, a first thing a server admin should be able to do is find proof of unacceptable behaviour. Therefor all events including chatted messages and voiceclips should be stored for admins to review them. - Configure another way to reset peoples char passwords. Now basically admins can screw people over by changeing their passwords without them even knowing. I know i'd never do that, but do others who don't know me know that? The client should be the one iniciating a pwd change, in case of a forgotten pwd, the admin should send out the pwd file prompting the server to change it next log on.- As was said before, items should spawn on maps to encourage people to get out and find stuff to get themselves upgraded. As soon as this happens, all inventories on criticview's server will get reset because it would make no sence to find items wich you already have.- Documentation on some server.prefs items: some of them are clear. others not.Client fixes:- Make people stay in the store until they hit escape to get out. Now every time you buy an item, you have to get back in and scroll down to find what you are looking for.- In stead of 20 seconds s afety, teleport people onto different map locations as soon as they enter it, provided they do not teleport to their death.- ability to become admin on the fly instead of being admin all the time: this reduces the chat messages of admins by a serious amount of reading since "chief administrator" would disappear.That's all i can think of at the moment. I'm really enjoying this project, and cannot express enough the hope it will get beyond everyone's expectations and be a great source for bloody entertainment to all who connect. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244531#p244531 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. i can't conect to the server URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244541#p244541 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-28
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Dude, I wouldn't do that. Because UP use to store people's voice clips, and there was a bunch of drama conserning being recorded with out permition. So, yeah. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244562#p244562 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hello, I'll try to answer your questions as best as possible. I currently don't have time to code on up, the limited time was also why I used this sourcecode in the firstplace:- I don't exactly know what you mean with charset level. If it's related to the strength of players and that stuff, I'll take care of that in the next update. Should I remove a player's inventory after death? and then make items easier to find and make stuff cheaper?- server updates should work reliable now. Why would having files instead of a change in the code change anything? things like the store would be handy in a file, but do you want things like minimum client version that can connect in a file too?- character logs. Just get them with /log, and you can search on charset and stuff. More filtering would be handy to add later though. I'll also look into storing voiceclips.- Ok, will do. I've never bought much from the store, so that's why i wasn't fixed before.- this might be hard to add. Some maps are designed to be entered/exited from a specific point.- I'll also look at adding something like admin chat instead of seeing everyones title.regarding the server being down, please send me runtime error information if you get one.Regarding the sourcecode links, copy the entire line to the clipboard. don't just go to /up. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244550#p244550 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hello, I'll try to answer your questions as best as possible. I currently don't have time to code on up, the limited time was also why I used this sourcecode in the firstplace:- I don't exactly know what you mean with charset level. If it's related to the strength of players and that stuff, I'll take care of that in the next update. Should I remove a player's inventory after death? and then make items easier to find and make stuff cheaper?- server updates should work reliable now. Why would having files instead of a change in the code change anything? things like the store would be handy in a file, but do you want things like minimum client version that can connect in a file too?- character logs. Just get them with /log, and you can search on charset and stuff. More filtering would be handy to add later though. I'll also look into storing voiceclips.- Ok, will do. I've never bought much from the store, so that's why i wasn't fixed before.- this might be hard to add. Some maps are designed to be entered/exited from a specific point.- I'll also look at adding something like admin chat instead of seeing everyones title.regarding the server being down, please send me runtime error information if you get one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244550#p244550 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. HiCharset level was actually ment as /charset level , wich currently doesn't work (at least last time i checked)The only content from the server side concirning changes is the list of changes to the server. This to my mind allows for offline review as well as online one. The store in a file is a good idea though.As for voice clips being stored: if people are not agreeing with being recorded, there's an option wich allows you to disable voice chat. Both with spoken and written word characters could behave badly even so that they'd deserve a ban, in wich case you need all the proof you could get. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244610#p244610 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. @BlademanRofl, no offense, but NS-Studios, do you know anything about copyrighting and sourcecode licensing?yes darling. I know about licensing. My father is a loyer.There was no license or copyright information released with any versions of ultrapowerbecause you know about licensing so much, why don't you tell me, what's the presumed state of a product that doesn't include licensing information?Wel, because you have no idea, darling, here's what's the presumed status:if no licensing information is explicitly written, it's presumed to be basically: deriving the source code or any of the material shipped with the product (game, program, paper, book, whatever) is prohibited without the author's consent.you clame there's no copyright if the licensing info isn't explicitly provided.so what. you think that if a book doesn't state that you mustn't copy parts of it, redistribute, bla bla bla without author's consent that you are ok doing so?only if you wish to get in trouble."That's my sound! No you stole it fromme! Give it back!"They sure have it. Did they steel it from me, yes. Do they need to give it back? No. Because I've made that sound, and I'm still the author of it.game you children like to playIf you ask me, the act of leaking the source, sharing it, then letting the public fuck with it, is more then childish, and i hope it pays back to those that did it.However, I'm 20, thank you, so you can continue calling me a child only in your dreams.It's obvious that if anything you are a child, because, you, and pretty much all of the newer population hav e no idea what copyright and licensing is, and only wash your mouth with big words like that, but they have no meaning to you what so ever.You'd be like: oh is this paid? Let's see if I can find it on torrents.and last thing:4) Posting warez, cracks, serials or hacking tips is not allowed.And most important: posting a message with advertisements, spam or anything else that is off-topic, non-related to game accessibility, offensive material,p0rn etc will lead to immediate removement of the topic plus a ban of email, ip and/or ip-range.let's see what this topic has from all this:number, word, description, true/false, why1.warez- Illegally obtained or compromised software.- To obtain a copy of (software or other works of authorship) illegally.trueleaked source code is not legal, a nd people using it do not have the Mason's or mine approval2.or anything else that is off-topic, non-related to game accessibility, offensive material- Disagreeable to the senses: an offensive odor.- Causing anger, displeasure, resentment, or affront: an offensive gesture.- Making an attack: The offensive troops gained ground quickly.- Of, relating to, or designed for attack: offensive weapons.- Sports Of or relating to a team having possession of a ball or puck: the offensive line.- An attitude or position of attack: go on the offensive in chess.- An attack or assault: led a massive military offensive.trueMe and Mason surely don't find this topic funny, comforting or anything. It's if anything stresfull and offensiveso this topic should be deleted! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244333#p244333 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. welll ns, why did you think that i deleted the source code from my computer? because i know that you and mason don't want to happen this again. so shat's why i don't have the source code anymore, and as you i want this topic tobe deleted URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244337#p244337 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. @BlademanRofl, no offense, but NS-Studios, do you know anything about copyrighting and sourcecode licensing?yes darling. I know about licensing. My father is a loyer.There was no license or copyright information released with any versions of ultrapowerbecause you know about licensing so much, why don't you tell me, what's the presumed state of a product that doesn't include licensing information?Wel, because you have no idea, darling, here's what's the presumed status:if no licensing information is explicitly written, it's presumed to be basically: deriving the source code or any of the material shipped with the product (game, program, paper, book, whatever) is prohibited without the author's consent.you clame there's no copyright if the licensing info isn't explicitly provided.so what. you think that if a book doesn't state that you mustn't copy parts of it, redistribute, bla bla bla without author's consent that you are ok doing so?only if you wish to get in trouble."That's my sound! No you stole it fromme! Give it back!"They sure have it. Did they steel it from me, yes. Do they need to give it back? No. Because I've made that sound, and I'm still the author of it.game you children like to playIf you ask me, the act of leaking the source, sharing it, then letting the public fuck with it, is more then childish, and i hope it pays back to those that did it.However, I'm 20, thank you, so you can continue calling me a child only in your dreams.It's obvious that if anything you are a child, because, you, and pretty much all of the newer population hav e no idea what copyright and licensing is, and only wash your mouth with big words like that, but they have no meaning to you what so ever.You'd be like: oh is this paid? Let's see if I can find it on torrents.and last thing:4) Posting warez, cracks, serials or hacking tips is not allowed.And most important: posting a message with advertisements, spam or anything else that is off-topic, non-related to game accessibility, offensive material,p0rn etc will lead to immediate removement of the topic plus a ban of email, ip and/or ip-range.let's see what this topic has from all this:number, word, description, true/false, why1.warez- Illegally obtained or compromised software.- To obtain a copy of (software or other works of authorship) illegally.trueleaked source code is not legal, a nd people using it do not have the Mason's or mine approval2.or anything else that is off-topic, non-related to game accessibility, offensive material- Disagreeable to the senses: an offensive odor.- Causing anger, displeasure, resentment, or affront: an offensive gesture.- Making an attack: The offensive troops gained ground quickly.- Of, relating to, or designed for attack: offensive weapons.- Sports Of or relating to a team having possession of a ball or puck: the offensive line.- An attitude or position of attack: go on the offensive in chess.- An attack or assault: led a massive military offensive.trueMe and Mason surely don't find this topic funny, comforting or anything. It's if anything stresfullso this topic should be deleted! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244333#p244333 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2015-12-27
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Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. That wwould be cool, Roel. @NS Studios, well unfortunately, you gave thaat to Mason. Mason gave it to Colton. Colton became an author because he coded on it so that's also his work. Colton gave it out to whoever he gave it to, thus giving ownership. This was not a "leak", no server was hacked to obtain this code. It was specifically given to specific people. I'm sorry if you don't like this, but here's a nice little hint, 20 year old copyright genius. Next time? Keep your code and sounds away from 13 and 14 year old children. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244385#p244385 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hi Roel, please, before adding 3d, add item spawning to your sever. We don't have any sence to play if we don't items. And please increase how much food we have in the beginning. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244395#p244395 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I suck at math but, here's a little formula that even I understand.Steve's argument+Nikola's argument-the silly parts of each=something that actually resembles making some factual sense, which is much>than all of this idiotic background noise from the aforementioned 13 and 14-year-olds.Bias aside, I still believe that the fact of Mason essentially declaring UP abandoned more than once remains, and if, as NS stated, you don't need a document to prove that something is copyrighted, then it also follows that you don't need one to declare this copyright voided either.The point is, you can cry about it all you want and try to ruin someone else's day while your at it, but it doesn't seem to be working on this guy, so props for him...And you know what, lets be honest here, Mason sucked at dealing with the public when he was in charge of UP, and there are countless examples of this all over this very forum, you even saw some of them first hand NS, I know because I was on the server with you at the time, with Mason restarting again and again for nearly an hour making tiny changes to the maps and utterly ignoring his paying customers asking why the game was unplayable.So if this roelvdwal guy can do better, then it just isn't worth it for your reputation if nothing else to try and stop him, and since the previous disaster on that other topic is over now, it's just starting up something that doesn't exist if anyone stays in the past on this matter.Focus on SBP NS and Mason, that's where your attention belongs, and to do otherwise makes you look even more unprofessional, which is something you guys don't need based on past mishaps still being fresh in the collective memory of this community, especially since that's just starting to get turned around.I also need to check out that claim about unstated license being a license of it's own, if so t hat's interesting, but I really doubt that applies to this situation. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244406#p244406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : blink_wizard via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. @NS-studiosDude, don't bother telling people about this stuff because they seem to not have a life to understand this stuff. This community is nothing but a bunch of people, adults and kids both, drama causers! Yup, I know what's coming next, call me that all you want, I tryed to be nice to all of you, but that doesn't seem to work on hear. Does it!I have had enough of this UltraPower bullshit, and I told that guy who is developing the game to stop, but no, he just deosn't want to. BTW, that idea of UP being 3D, that was my idea. I told him in a skype call. @severestormsteve1 you sound like nothing but a no it all jerk who just likes to make others feel like crap! I have seen this in older topics of UltraPower, and some other topics as well. I have had enough of this community driven by only drama and drama only. Guys, why don't you just take a minute to think about what you have in life and be thankful for once! All you guys eem to do o n this forum is complain and wine. UltraPower seems to be a total mess that needs to die. Why are people holding on to it like its a lifeline as Sam_tupy says?Ok, end of rant URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244398#p244398 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. That would be cool, Roel. @NS Studios, well unfortunately, you gave that code to Mason. Mason gave it to Colton. Colton became an author because he coded on it so that's also his work. Colton gave it out to whoever he gave it to, thus giving ownership. This was not a "leak", no server was hacked to obtain this code. It was specifically given to specific people. I'm sorry if you don't like this, but here's a nice little hint, 20 year old copyright genius. Next time? Keep your code and sounds away from 13 and 14 year old children. And if you just can't, absolutely can't resist passing it over to them, don't cry when they give ownership to 10 different people and complain about copyright issues. Take that advice, and you'll have a less stressful life. This is stressful to you and Mason? Ah. Don't you just hate it when you make stupid mistakes and they can't be covered up with a 'sorry' or 'my bad& #039;? I sure do. Oh and another little thing. Did everyone pay for the sounds and stuff that they got that originated from you? I doubt it since so many people have obtained it. Mason probably didn't pay for it, so by giving your sounds to him you gave those sounds illegally. Now if I'm wrong and you only used your personally recorded sounds or asked the library venders if it's okay and they gave you permission to freely give your sounds to your friends? Ignore me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244385#p244385 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hello, I am looking into converting up to 3d. Please tell me if you guys are interested.I'll be unable to work on up for a few days, so I hope I can make an update with 3d and spectator mode sometime next week. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244367#p244367 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : luiscarlosgm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Yes, because I'm banned in UP, what so ever, if I'm banned, I totally agree whith you.This is getting verry annoying, since I was a player in UP, but the worst is that I was banned by some person, I try to ask many times here but no question, so no answer, so delete it because I'm not part of this ultra fucker game! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244358#p244358 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. That would be cool, Roel. @NS Studios, well unfortunately, you gave that code to Mason. Mason gave it to Colton. Colton became an author because he coded on it so that's also his work. Colton gave it out to whoever he gave it to, thus giving ownership. This was not a "leak", no server was hacked to obtain this code. It was specifically given to specific people. I'm sorry if you don't like this, but here's a nice little hint, 20 year old copyright genius. Next time? Keep your code and sounds away from 13 and 14 year old children. And if you just can't, absolutely can't resist passing it over to them, don't cry when they give ownership to 10 different people and complain about copyright issues. Take that advice, and you'll have a less stressful life. This is stressful to you and Mason? Ah. Don't you just hate it when you make stupid mistakes and they can't be covered up with a 'sorry' or 'my bad& #039;? I sure do. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244385#p244385 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Right? I wouldn't have posted here except this was at the top so I actually wanted to see if Roel had anything interesting to report. He did, but you could hardly hear it above the children crying. Stop this crap and just get over it already. This is my last word here in response to this, if I post again it will be relating to the (mature) topic of discussion, A.K.A. Development of this game. But freaking NS Studios, if you're 20 then get a job and quit acting 1/3 that age. To the people under that age, how about do some homework or something, or grow up. Please. I'm actually interested in this game's progress since it now seems we have a suitable developer running it.@Roel if you're making this 3d, is that both movement and sounds? Or is it just sounds. That would be kind of cool if the whole game was 3d, as I don't think we have many 3d platformers out here and I like the idea. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244397#p244397 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I suck at math but, here's a little formula that even I understand.Steve's argument+Nikola's argument-the silly parts of each=something that actually resembles making some factual sense, which is much>than all of this idiotic background noise from the aforementioned 13 and 14-year-olds.Bias aside, I still believe that the fact of Mason essentially declaring UP abandoned more than once remains, and if, as NS stated, you don't need a document to prove that something is copyrighted, then it also follows that you don't need one to declare this copyright voided either.The point is, you can cry about it all you want and try to ruin someone else's day while your at it, but it doesn't seem to be working on this guy, so props for him...And you know what, lets be honest here, Mason sucked at dealing with the public when he was in charge of UP, and there are countless examples of this all over this very forum, you even saw some of them first hand NS, I know because I was on the server with you at the time, with Mason restarting again and again for nearly an hour making tiny changes to the maps and utterly ignoring his paying customers asking why the game was unplayable.So if this roelvdwal guy can do better, then it just isn't worth it for your reputation if nothing else to try and stop him, and since the previous disaster on that other topic is over now, it's just starting up something that doesn't exist if anyone stays in the past on this matter.Focus on SBP NS and Mason, that's where your attention belongs, and to do otherwise makes you look even more unprofessional, which is something you guys don't need based on past mishaps still being fresh in the collective memory of this community, especially since that's just starting to get turned around.I also need to check out that claim about unstated license being a license of it's own, if so t hat's interesting, but I really doubt that applies to this situation.However, the question of legality when it comes to audio in UP is for the most part solved, no one can prove that NS didn't pay for the sounds he used that weren't recorded directly by him, and even if you could, what would be the point, most game devs and project sound designers here do the same thing. Also, Mason did encrypt the sounds when he packaged them with the game, in both Beta and Release versions, if this current source code that's being passed around includes the unprotected sounds though, than Mason can't really be blamed for that particular mistake, as it was his master development copy and was only unprotected so that sounds could easily be added and removed while coding. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244406#p244406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I suck at math but, here's a little formula that even I understand.Steve's argument+Nikola's argument-the silly parts of each=something that actually resembles making some factual sense, which is much>than all of this idiotic background noise from the aforementioned 13 and 14-year-olds.Any bias aside, I still believe that the fact of Mason essentially declaring UP abandoned more than once remains, and if, as NS stated, you don't need a document to prove that something is copyrighted, then it also follows that you don't need one to declare this copyright voided either.The point is, you can cry about it all you want and try to ruin someone else's day while your at it, but it doesn't seem to be working on this guy, so props for him...And you know what, lets be honest here, Mason sucked at dealing with the public when he was in charge of UP, and there are countless examples of this all over this very forum, you even saw some of them first hand NS, I know because I was on the server with you at the time, with Mason restarting again and again for nearly an hour making tiny changes to the maps and utterly ignoring his paying customers asking why the game was unplayable.So if this roelvdwal guy can do better, then it just isn't worth it for your reputation if nothing else to try and stop him, and since the previous disaster on that other topic is over now, it's just starting up something that doesn't exist if anyone stays in the past on this matter.Focus on SBP NS and Mason, that's where your attention belongs, and to do otherwise makes you look even more unprofessional, which is something you guys don't need based on past mishaps still being fresh in the collective memory of this community, especially since that's just starting to get turned around.I also need to check out that claim about unstated license being a license of it's own, if so that's interesting, but I really doubt that applies to this situation.However, the question of legality when it comes to audio in UP is for the most part solved, no one can prove that NS didn't pay for the sounds he used that weren't recorded directly by him, and even if you could, what would be the point, most game devs and project sound designers here do the same thing. Also, Mason did encrypt the sounds when he packaged them with the game, in both Beta and Release versions, if this current source code that's being passed around includes the unprotected sounds though, than Mason can't really be blamed for that particular mistake, as it was his master development copy and was only unprotected so that sounds could easily be added and removed while coding. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244406#p244406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I suck at math but, here's a little formula that even I understand. Steve's argument+Nikola's argument-the silly parts of each=something that actually resembles making some factual sense, which is much>than all of this idiotic background noise from the aforementioned 13 and 14-year-olds.Any bias aside, I still believe that the fact of Mason essentially declaring UP abandoned more than once remains, and if, as NS stated, you don't need a document to prove that something is copyrighted, then it also follows that you don't need one to declare this copyright voided either.The point is, you can cry about it all you want and try to ruin someone else's day while your at it, but it doesn't seem to be working on this guy, so props for him! And you know what, lets be honest here, Mason sucked at dealing with the public when he was in charge of UP, and there are countless examples of this all over this very forum, you even saw some of them first hand NS, I know because I was on the server with you at the time, with Mason restarting again and again for nearly an hour making tiny changes to the maps and utterly ignoring his paying customers asking why the game was unplayable.So if this roelvdwal guy can do better, then it just isn't worth it for your reputation if nothing else to try and stop him, and since the previous disaster on that other topic is over now, it's just starting up something that doesn't exist if anyone stays in the past on this matter.Focus on SBP NS and Mason, that's where your attention belongs, and to do otherwise makes you look even more unprofessional, which is something you guys don't need based on past mishaps still being fresh in t he collective memory of this community, especially since that's just starting to get turned around.I also need to check out that claim about unstated license being a license of it's own, if so that's interesting, but I really doubt that applies to this situation.However, the question of legality when it comes to audio in UP is for the most part solved, no one can prove that NS didn't pay for the sounds he used that weren't recorded directly by him, and even if you could, what would be the point, most game devs and project sound designers here do the same thing. Also, Mason did encrypt the sounds when he packaged them with the game, in both Beta and Release versions, if this current source code that's being passed around includes the unprotected sounds though, than Mason can't really be blamed for that particular mistake, as it was his master development copy and was only unprotected so that sounds could easily be added and removed while coding. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244406#p244406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. People are asking for this topic to be deleted. If that's the case, keep posting doesn't close the topic. It'll make the moderators delete the topic if the poor kids keep bitching at each other. People can still act like kids even if they are in the 20s, the 30s or even in the 40s. Please just leave the topic alone, and do something else than snapping at each other. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244391#p244391 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Right? I wouldn't have posted here except this was at the top so I actually wanted to see if Roel had anything interesting to report. He did, but you could hardly hear it above the children crying. Stop this crap and just get over it already. This is my last word here in response to this, if I post again it will be relating to the (mature) topic of discussion, A.K.A. Development of this game. But freaking NS Studios, if you're 20 then get a job and quit acting 1/3 that age. To the people under that age, how about do some homework or something, or grow up. Please. I'm actually interested in this game's progress since it now seems we have a suitable developer running it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244397#p244397 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I suck at math but, here's a little formula that even I understand. Steve's argument+Nikola's argument+Blake's argument-the silly parts of each=something that actually resembles making some factual sense, which is much>than all of this idiotic background noise from the aforementioned 13 and 14-year-olds.Any bias aside, I still believe that the fact of Mason essentially declaring UP abandoned more than once remains, and if, as NS stated, you don't need a document to prove that something is copyrighted, then it also follows that you don't need one to declare this copyright voided either.The point is, you can cry about it all you want and try to ruin someone else's day while your at it, but it doesn't seem to be working on this guy, so props for him! And you know what, lets be honest here, Mason sucked at dealing with the public when he was in charge of UP, and there are countless examples of this all over this very forum, you even saw some of them first hand NS, I know because I was on the server with you at the time, with Mason restarting again and again for nearly an hour making tiny changes to the maps and utterly ignoring his paying customers asking why the game was unplayable.So if this roelvdwal guy can do better, then it just isn't worth it for your reputation if nothing else to try and stop him, and since the previous disaster on that other topic is over now, it's just starting up something that doesn't exist if anyone stays in the past on this matter.Focus on SBP NS and Mason, that's where your attention belongs, and to do otherwise makes you look even more unprofessional, which is something you guys don't need based on past mishaps still being fresh in the collective memory of this community, especially since that's just starting to get turned around.I also need to check out that claim about unstated license being a license of it's own, if so that's interesting, but I really doubt that applies to this situation.However, the question of legality when it comes to audio in UP is for the most part solved, no one can prove that NS didn't pay for the sounds he used that weren't recorded directly by him, and even if you could, what would be the point, most game devs and project sound designers here do the same thing. Also, Mason did encrypt the sounds when he packaged them with the game, in both Beta and Release versions, if this current source code that's being passed around includes the unprotected sounds though, than Mason can't really be blamed for that particular mistake, as it was his master development copy and was only unprotected so that sounds could easil y be added and removed while coding. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244406#p244406 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : animal metal via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. agree with slj, age is just a number... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244421#p244421 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. hello roledwolf sorry if I am spelled incorrectly. you know what Ultra power is now secure. but there is no item in the game there is no item except a food or a knife. also in your website ultra power shown as side scroller but it is an FPS games.thanksIshan URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244465#p244465 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-27
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : animal metal via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. agree with slj, age is just a number...and this guy seams cool, so might try this version out. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244421#p244421 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-26
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : luiscarlosgm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Seriously guys!I'm being to mutherfucked here sorry for bad language. As I was saying, I've banned from UP like in november or december, or, like october?Well, I was pissed of when I sarted UP, the game tolld me that I was banned, so I cannot play if anybody unband me, or I tell them to delete UP immidiately, because that developers can't do this.Blink, I will tell dark to moderate you. Yes believe me!If however cannnot give the sorce code, why not! say to mason with permissions? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244235#p244235 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Guys, just stop this, seriously. You give out the source code, then all of you begin to cry. It is you who gave the source code to more than your private team, and you're now paying for it. Roel, you're doing a good job. go on. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244110#p244110 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I deleted it too.That game just represented, represents and will represent the haunted disturbing thing.If I were you, I would move on and show people your real programming skills (ahem), and just start the project from the scratch.And there're many reasons for this:- you have no security because people that have seen the decryption key can play with the server however they wanna- people that have the source can easily evade the banns, by changing the banning systemand not just the banns, they can play with the server side control how they want- the includes that are the part of the u p come from different places - colton, mason and sam, so using them, people wouldn't like it.- as I said, sounds.most of the sounds in ultra power have been designed by me. either that be create the effect from the scratch (like auction sounds, menu sounds, voice chat sounds, etc.), or take a sound from my collection of sound libraries I 've bought, and edit it to better fit the game.Yes, there are a couple of swamp sounds that mason added, like drown, but there are no rtr sounds, at least not copied from rtr - they just may be the same sounds from the same source.so you would be using the sounds you haven't designed/made/edited, and sounds from the commercial libraries that you don't own yourself.All in all, you would be putting yourself in too much shit.about the copyright, audio work, like sounds, songs, etc. never get copyrighted, as, for example, a piece of software would.audio work copyright is subject to be proven, rather than legally copyrighted.anyway, as I've already stated, just because it has laeked, the source shouldn't be presumed to have become public copyright.There was the Madonna case recently, where she was about to release her new album Rebbel heart.But a few days prior to the scheduled release date, a hacker got into her computer, and got all of the tracks and they leaked.So, you're saying that now those songs, just because they leaked are public copyright?Maybe not... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244127#p244127 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I deleted it too.That game just represented, represents and will represent the haunted disturbing thing.If I were you, I would move on and show people your real programming skills (ahem), and just start the project from the scratch.And there're many reasons for this:- you have no security because people that have seen the decryption key can play with the server however they wanna- people that have the source can easily evade the banns, by changing the banning systemand not just the banns, they can play with the server side control how they want- the includes that are the part of the u p come from different places - colton, mason and sam, so using them, people wouldn't like it.- as I said, sounds.most of the sounds in ultra power have been designed by me. either that be create/record the effect from the scratch (like auction sounds, menu sounds, voice chat sounds, grass footsteps, etc.), or take a sound from my collect ion of sound libraries I've bought, and edit it to better fit the game.Yes, there are a couple of swamp sounds that mason added, like drown, but there are no rtr sounds, at least not copied from rtr - they just may be the same sounds from the same source.so you would be using the sounds you haven't designed/made/edited, and sounds from the commercial libraries that you don't own yourself.All in all, you would be putting yourself in too much shit.about the copyright, audio work, like sounds, songs, etc. never get copyrighted, as, for example, a piece of software would.audio work copyright is subject to be proven, rather than legally copyrighted.anyway, as I've already stated, just because it has laeked, the source shouldn't be presumed to have become public copyright.There was the Madonna case recently, where she was about to release her new album Rebbel heart.But a few days prior to the scheduled release date , a hacker got into her computer, and got all of the tracks and they leaked.So, you're saying that now those songs, just because they leaked are public copyright?Maybe not... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244127#p244127 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Rofl, no offense, but NS-Studios, do you know anything about copyrighting and sourcecode licensing? From your previous posts, I'm sorry but I have to assume the answer is no.There was no license or copyright information released with any versions of ultrapower, and aside from the endless "That's my sound! No you stole it from me! Give it back!", game you children like to play, there are no legal ramifications of any of this.There are, of course, also creative commons licenses for content other than sourcecode, and if you seriously want to protect your current and future work, I highly suggest you look into this, as well as other licensing topics. Now I'm not particularly knowledgeable about legalees, licensing, and copyright in general, but this definitly seems like something that, as a game developer, you would really want to address.Okay, we now return you to your normal bitching interspersed with amusing commentary, please enjoy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244173#p244173 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Rofl, no offense, but NS-Studios, do you know anything about copyrighting and sourcecode licensing? From your previous posts, I'm sorry but I have to assume tne answer is no.There was no license or copyright information released with any versions of ultrapower, and aside from the endless "That's my sound! No you stole it from me! Give it back!", game you children like to play, there are no legal ramifications of any of this.There are, of course, also creative commons licenses for content other than sourcecode, and if you seriously want to protect your current and future work, I highly suggest you look into this, as well as other licensing topics. Now I'm not particularly knowledgeable about legalees, licensing, and copyright in general, but this definitly seems like something that, as a game developer, you would really want to address.Okay, we now return you to your normal bitching interspersed with amusing commentary, please enjoy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244173#p244173 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I just am stunned by how you guys think that just because the source code has leaked, that it suddenly became ok to do whatever with it.Wouldn't even be surprised if someone made money off this. rofl.every normal person would think that doing something like this is illegal/not what you should be doing, but hey, what do I know.Do whatever you wanna do, but if you get in trouble, don't cry out for your mommy.Let him try, he wasn't the developer or ultra power before?What the fucking hell.so this is like comunity driven project now?sure. only if you don't use anything from the original source and rewrite it on your own.Because, sounds that I made for u p are still mine, they aren't comunity's, neither are classes, functions and includes that me and/or mason or sam wrote. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244024#p244024 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-24
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : blink_wizard via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. *sigh*why is this game even still a thing. Damn, I was the idiot who gave out the source code and now look at this. everyone is gonna have a copy of UP. soon there will be like 30 topics in the New releases and claimin: "O, look guys! I released a new version of UltraPower. Why don't you just go off and delete the source code off your hard drive. I've even deleted it. UltraPower, no more on my machine. when you search for UltraPower, the only thing you will find is emails from this topic and other 3 topics. Why are the mods not even doing what they should be doing and take this damn stupid game, buggy as all hell, off the damn web sight! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244028#p244028 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hi everyoneFirst off: i didn't even know this game existed before reading this topic, and honestly I don't care much who originally started this etc etc. The most important thing is that someone is trying to get a project going, wich for this small comunity should be something to selebrate and not stump into the ground. As for the server: i've added criticview's server and it ^should^ be up all the time, even after it crashes. For those who connected earlyer on: i've given you all an inventory to work with. Levels are currently all at 0, but i'm guessing that if you join the killing that will change too. If you want to have a chat while fireing away, go to criticview.duckdns.org on teamtalk 5 (use default ports). See yall later URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244022#p244022 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Using a leaked source is not always ideal, unless the project became abandoned. As for sounds, if they still are the same as the original, there would at least be issues with Aprone (few of them came out of swamp), Gorthalon (one out of rtr) etc etc etc. Besides, you can only clame ownership of something when it's either copyrighted, or patented and I didn't see anything of that written anywhere, so it will get very hard to prove anything at this point. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244026#p244026 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. I just am stunned by how you guys think that just because the source code has leaked, that it suddenly became ok to do whatever with it.Wouldn't even be surprised if someone made money off this. rofl.every normal person would think that doing something like this is illegal/not what you should be doing, but hey, what do I know.Do whatever you wanna do, but if you get in trouble, don't cry out for your mommy.Let him try, he wasn't the developer or ultra power before?What the fucking hell.so this is like comunity driven project now?sure. only if you don't use anything from the original source and rewrite it on your own.Because, sounds that I made for u p are still mine, they aren't comunity's, neither are classes, functions and includes that me and/or mason or sam wrote.-- oh look! I got this leaked source code and now I got sam's inventory code, but now it's mine!or maybe not. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244024#p244024 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. *sigh* Roel, Just keep doing what you're doing, I mean I get why some might just want the game to die but seriously guys, try to break away from the drama. I've played Roel's games before, he's definitely a dev who knows what he's doing. Mason and Sam have done a nicely coded game, that's gone through some phases of bugginess, but try to give Roel a chance, before this he had nothing to do with ultrapower development. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=244007#p244007 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hi,I've just released client version 11.12 and server version 13.04. This fixes server updating, so anyone running version 13.02 of the server or lower will have to manually update to 13.04.The client update should be automatic. Client version 11.12 can only connect to server version 13.04 and older client versions can only connect to server versions 13.03 and earlier. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243997#p243997 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hello, The new encryption is still a bit bugged so the server is still giving runtime errors often. Sorry about that.@post 11:I am not saying that ultrapower is mine, read post 1.Also, you can be assured that ultrapower is secure. If you don't trust me, go ahead and look at the code. The only thing you will have to trust me on is that the encryption key is long, and it most certainly is. I generated it with a random generator, and it's very, very long, I even put it into it's own include which is not given with the source.I'm still wundering, what is Ultrapower? specifically, What gives ultrapower such a bad reputation, and how do I break away from it? do I simply rename the game? Why do so many people want it to die off?Also, I just don't have the time/don't want to start from scratch. I have a 2 weak break that gives me the chance to work on something, and this genre of game is just not worthwhile coding from scratch, in my opinion. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243955#p243955 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Nods, I feel like it's just the expected drama that people think of when you say, "ultrapower".And nods, I can't create a character on your server.Also, you might want to modify the server so it has an option to automatically join the list if it's up for, say, more than an hour or 2. That way, people can add their servers to a list automatically instead of having you manually do it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243964#p243964 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hello,Since ultrapower's source code was leaked I decided that I might as well try to clean up the code and make the game more secure.I introduced the following:- A server list is back.- everyone now has an unique encryption key for each session. This prevents snooping. The generic encryption key was updated too, with a very strong one. It's longer than 100 characters.Player's passwords are now hashed. This basically allows the server to compare if 2 passwords are equal, but its impossible to know what the password is, even with the source code. Previously you could easily decrypt all passwords with the source code, making the leaks even more dangerous. There’s also a completely new website for the game. After this release i plan to improve the balancing of the game, especially the level differences, as well as some sound improvements.If you are interested and want to try the game, check it out at http://roelvdwal.ddns.netNote: there might still be some bugs because of the changed encryption. The rank system was also reintroduced a while ago and certain commands might not work. Please report these issues so they can be fixed. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243834#p243834 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Very well. It's currently uploading. You could have asked a little more nicely. I'm obviously not going to include the encryption string. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243861#p243861 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Post your source or your just another kid dev with a dream URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243857#p243857 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. So, I want to point out that this following post will probably appear very harsh to some people. I'm saying this after I've taken a deep breath, after writing. I still want to say what I rote below because it's what I think, and I simply can't refrain from saying it anymore. If I offend anyone to much here i'm sorry. I've tried to make sure i'm not pointing fingers at anyone in particular here, and if I am i'd like to apologise, but everyone has a different view on stuff so... With out ferther ado... The ultrapower rant.Ok, I have to go on a bit of a rant here. Seeings as I was the reason ultrapower even exists. It was masons idea. Though I doubt much is left, that code is a very, very, very, like 0.03 early, version of survive the wild. It's been messed up and screwed over so bad now it's not the same so I feel safe there, and i'm not saying my encryption is like that, lol. But anyway, can't this game just... Die? Plase? If you are trying to fix the hole thing in the passed by making the game your own... Can't you just make a game from scratch if that's what you want? I will never ever, feel secure on that game. You guys seriously hold onto that game like a freeking lifeline. Can't you let it go? I mean, seriously? I think every version, every copy, every bit of source should be deleted and we should start over with some other game. Hell, maybe i'll make a shooting fps or something, because there fun and people like those kinds of games. But I was one of the people who have gotten kicked out of the dev team, and I did a lot of that work, a lot of the lag improvements... That was back when I thought this game had a chance. Like, back before 2.0. Then, mason kicked me from the project like so many others. I wish I had never worked on it or even heard of it, it's just going to be an incriminating piece of code for who ever has it. Just, copy the sounds, and code something completely different if you need some memory, but I think it's time this game just goes away. Theres many coders who could make a game like that, Like I said I might do it. But I almost got my self sucked into this mess when ivan took it from mason, and hell I might be doing that again. But I know mason and possibly even colton agree at this point, it needs to have never existed. Seriously guys, look at the big picture. Sence when has it been, oh, sence the source code of this offle game has been leaked, it's now my game. I mean, how many versions and UP servers are currently running? Ivans? Yours? Others? The more I read about this the dummer I feel for ever letting mason use my sourcecode from stw V 0.03. I now feel like if it wern't for me, this game would have never existed in the first place, and I'm begging you guys, just let go of this stupid thing that apparently everyone needs for life. Make something new! Hell I probs shouldn't e ven be posting this here because I don't know what most people will think about it but well... I hope I didn't just get my self into a mess of shit. But in summary, if all you people have to do is fight over a babies chewed up toy, then I wonder... How lazy has this world become? You have to fight over this piece of crap because you want an online game whare you press control to fire your weapon and kill someone? Really, think about it... Can someone please explain a valid reason for all this bullshit? Just someone? One person? 0.5? Come on people, just please forget about it! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243914#p243914 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Ah, nice. I realize I could have come off as rude in my previous posts. Sorry, in general I have no patience with this game and it's pervious developers, good to see your changing that.Also, a tiney bit of advice, I hope your keeping this under some sort of version control, like git. You could put the server and client on github so everyone could keep up to date, instead of just distributing links to zip files. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243910#p243910 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Ah, nice. I realize I could have come off as rude in my previous posts. Sorry, in general I have no patience with this game and it's previous developers, good to see your changing that.Also, a tiney bit of advice, I hope your keeping this under some sort of version control, like git. You could put the server and client on github so everyone could keep up to date, instead of just distributing links to zip files. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243910#p243910 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Lol you guys are still bringing this up. If it deserves to die, don't you think it also doesn't deserve your attention?As much drama as this game has caused, to be honest, this guy (whoever he is), has done more work in the time that he's had it than I've seen any of the dev team do with UP since I've been playing.Sam, while it might be a "baby version of STW" running things, this guy looks like he knows what he's doing. I think your problem is with the developers, not the game, and in any case, what does it matter?If this dude wants to make something out of this heap of spaghetti code, then more power to him. I do stand by my earlier post though, if your gonna be doing any serious development with this I wanna see it on github. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243929#p243929 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : blink_wizard via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. HiSo, I agree with Sam Tupy. I really shouldn't of gave out the source to Vlad. He gave it to this guy and look at it now! Dude, can't you just make it die already? Please! just for all of us, kill UP completely. I killed it myself and I started working on a new game. I'm not gonna tell you guys what it is, I'll just leave it at that. Hell, it all started because of Colton being so mad at mason and I asked him for UP's source code and he gave it to me, just like that. I realized that yeah, people might not want it, but still, at the time I really wanted to release this because I myself don't agree with what Mason's doing. But I'm just gonna say this once, dude, if you plan to continue UP, get ready to be hated on and people trying to put you down. ok? thanks.Hell, if you want I'll let you in my dev team, but then again, I'll really have to get to know you. But yeah, just do us all a favor and kill UP completely.Ivanemail me: blinkwizar...@gmail.comskype: blinkwizard23twitter: blinkwizard23 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243918#p243918 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Sorry bout that, but when it comes to this game, your immature and not worth time until proven otherwise in my book. If it turns out that you are, in fact, mature and worth my time, I'll sincerely apologize. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243868#p243868 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Please tell me why you consider me being immature just by taking this sourcecode and using it. I realize ultrapower doesn't have a good name, but that's, from what I can gather ,mainly of all the drama. If you believe I played a wrong part in that drama, then I understand where you're coming from. But I don't get why you are comparing me to other people who have previously worked on this project.Regarding the source, here is a link:http://roelvdwal.ddns.net/up dev team (1) - modified.zipI've also just released version 11.1 of the client, fixing some bugs and readding weapon switching with the number row.I also accidentally didn't update the server's update mechanism properly, so you'll have to download version 13.02 of the server manually which fixes runtime errors. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243873#p243873 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : ultrocity_audio via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. *sigh* URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243895#p243895 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Probably because there have been like 4 people who claim to have released ultra power now. Though you aren't really associated with mason at all before now, so this actually is a bit better. You haven't been kicked off his dev teams or anything like that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243896#p243896 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. yeah, I get it as well, the game is a blight on the forum, so I get why you would seem immature until you prove otherwise in association with the Ultra Power game. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243907#p243907 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hmm. This guy actually seems like he knows what he's doing? I'll keep a close eye on this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243909#p243909 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : severestormsteve1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. By posting posts of, "Let this game die", as you've done on the previous UP topic and the one before and the one before that, you are doing little more for the people reading it then adding extra headings to the page. You've already asked that question and look what that turned into on the old topic. Unfortunately, there's nothing that can really be done, except by Roel himself. So rather than repeating the question of "Can this game just die?", due to it having been asked 3 or 4 times prior to today, skip over the title. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243931#p243931 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it.
2015-12-23
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AudioGames . net Forum — New releases room : RTR_Assassin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Ultrapower. Here it is, for those who want it. Hi roelvdwal,I just downloaded the game and the server, but I still cannot create a character because your server appears to be down. Am I doing something wrong? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=243939#p243939 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
