[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Scott F. Wrote: That depends on which side of the keyboard you are sitting on. There was no biggotry implied in that statement in the least. I just typed about an assumption that (generally) holds true with phone support of computer products and peripherals. Just call the Dell or Direcway support line sometime. Gassing people because of their religion was right to some depending on what side of 1940's German politics they were on - Hitler even wrote about that. I think an apology or at least something of the sort would have been better now we have been ever so humbly blessed by your appearance on the forums - where the forum admin is outsourced I might add. Don't worry, you're not attacking me personally because I'm English, and I'm white so I speak a purer form of the dialect than you do :P Now imagine if I had wrote I phoned XYZ and got through to an English person and not a Yank! I hate to saddle the forum of this great hardware company with politics so will stop now. In closing I'll just say maybe it's best if you think more about manners rather than just distortion rates whilst reviewing, and also run them through a grammar check afterwards because whilst you might have perfect audiophile ears your writing leaves a lot to be desired. -- Jim Jim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Poor tech support is poor tech support, regardless of what part of the globe it originates from. However, couple poor support with a poor grasp of the English language, and a resultant difficulty in comprehending what the tech is saying, as I've personally encountered in some tech 'support' hotlines, and it's especially vexing. And I won't even get into my own personal opines on all this 'outsourcing'. Regardless, I think 'The Simpsons' is leaps and bounds more 'racist' than anything that poor Scott wrote. It's astonishing how thin-skinned and PC people strive to be today. -- Cleve Two-channel system; McIntosh MC2205 amplifier McIntosh MAC4100 receiver Klipsch CF-4 speakers Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck Cleve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Cleve Wrote: Poor tech support is poor tech support, regardless of what part of the globe it originates from. However, couple poor support with a poor grasp of the English language, and a resultant difficulty in comprehending what the tech is saying, as I've personally encountered in some tech 'support' hotlines, and it's especially vexing. And I won't even get into my own personal opines on all this 'outsourcing'. The thing about the review that annoyed me was that the reviewer mentioned it in the way he did. Had he written I called the tech support hotline, and to my suprise it wasn't outsourced that would have been fine. But he decided to make the entire continent of India look stupid using racial sterotypes in his idea of humour. Watch BBC World, it might suprise you that some coloured peopled speak English on par with The Queen. If there is (and sometimes I have found there is) a difficulty in you understanding a outsourced employee, or they understanding you it is not the person in India's fault, they are just looking for a job which is a an necessity for them and is more important in the scheme of things than you trying to get your luxury electrical item working. It's the company's fault for not only writing off jobs in your country to save money, they are also no doubt having people in other countries working under crap conditions to save money. But why are they doing this? So you can pay $10 less for your electrical item. So in the end it's your fault when maybe paying a little more would have been worth it if you'd have been able to find a company making more jobs for your countrymen and where support would have been easy and maybe your taxes were not quite so high due to paying for these ex-support staff's welfare. No finer example of this than Wal-Mart - if you're looking to spend $10 somewhere I'd recommend this, or at least have a read of the site: http://www.walmartmovie.com/ Cleve Wrote: Regardless, I think 'The Simpsons' is leaps and bounds more 'racist' than anything that poor Scott wrote. It's astonishing how thin-skinned and PC people strive to be today. The Simpson's is great. It's so popular they are making a special Middle Eastern version I believe, no doubt with sterotypes of white people invading countries to steal oil. But this is a cartoon, and very cleverly done humour - which if you look underneath is not actually racist but only a pi**-take at the whole of society. -- Jim Jim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Cleve Wrote: Regardless, I think 'The Simpsons' is leaps and bounds more 'racist' than anything that poor Scott wrote. It's astonishing how thin-skinned and PC people strive to be today.The thing that offended me most in his review was that he seemed to suggest that FLAC might drop a byte here and there. First and foremost, you -supposedly- don't loose any information at all. Blasphemy! And bad grammar to boot. -- mattg mattg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
pfarrell Wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 13:21 -0800, ezkcdude wrote: pfarrell Wrote: When audiophiles talk about an external DAC, they mean an external box that just does Digial to Analog Conversion. Whether the optical or SPDIF wire is used is a separate issue. So, which do you prefer? I've always heard that the coaxial output was better than toslink. I can't tell any difference at all. The Benchmark has a switch on the front to select inputs, so I ran both and flipped the switch. I can't hear any difference. YMMV -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html Pat you seem to be one of the more knowledgable and scientific audiophiles. I have auditioned the Benchmark DAC1 in a local showroom and it sounded very good to me. However with a very good listening room and good system I am sure everything sounds good. What I am wondering is, after living with Benchmark and the SB for a while, what magnitute of improvements do you hear in the Benchmark Vs a virgin SB2? I know Sean Adams does not seem to be able to hear big difference in the Benchmark DAC1. What is your opinion on this? Will upgrading to the DAC1 be similar to upgrading from a Japanese junk Turntable to a Linn Sondek? (Good old days). I did that before and it was a life changing experience. Curently I have a modest but resonably decent system with Naim Nait 5i and Celetion A-1/Harbeth LS3/5A and Pioneer Elite Universal Player. Like most SBers I listening to all kinds of music. I would appreciate your opinions on this, since you have been living with these two pieces of equipment. John -- agentsmith agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 06:42 -0800, agentsmith wrote: pfarrell Wrote: The Benchmark has a switch on the front to select inputs, so I ran both and flipped the switch. I can't hear any difference. Pat you seem to be one of the more knowledgeable and scientific audiophiles. Thanks, It sometimes is a curse. See we are all engineers on http://www.pfarrell.com/farrell/us.html I have auditioned the Benchmark DAC1 in a local showroom and it sounded very good to me. However with a very good listening room and good system I am sure everything sounds good. Which gets to a critical point. Audio is clearly a place where the chain really is only as strong as the weakest link. You have to have serious speakers and room acoustics once you start tweaking. Or you won't be able to tell anything. Fixing room acoustics while keeping the WAF is hard. What I am wondering is, after living with Benchmark and the SB for a while, what magnitute of improvements do you hear in the Benchmark Vs a virgin SB2? I know Sean Adams does not seem to be able to hear big difference in the Benchmark DAC1. What is your opinion on this? My opinion is that there is a significant improvement that I can hear between my SqueezeBox 1/G direct and thru the Benchmark. But I don't have a SB2. So I can't answer your real question. The combination of a SB1 and Benchmark makes me happy. I've wired mine, so the network buffer and native flac support are not an issue. I've got $1200 in the SB1 + Benchmark and haven't had a spare $300 to pick up a SB2/3 Plus I'd rather squander the money on 25 or so more CDs. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: replaygain - Tact - SB2 - gain questions ; )
Well, whatever you do in the squeezebox will result in bit loss/resolution. So, unless the tact does things less accuratly than the squeezebox, you will have the same problem. If it is a real problem, you could try attenuating the output from the tact using a fixed pair of resistors. -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18638 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
Jim wrote: Gassing people because of their religion was right to some depending on what side of 1940's German politics they were on - Hitler even wrote about that. Hitler has been mentioned. I now invoke the tradition of Godwin's Law and call for an end to this thread. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Thanks, --rt ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
fuzzyT Wrote: Jim wrote: Gassing people because of their religion was right to some depending on what side of 1940's German politics they were on - Hitler even wrote about that. Hitler has been mentioned. I now invoke the tradition of Godwin's Law and call for an end to this thread. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Thanks, --rt Amen, Mr. T. Glad someone remembers the old Usenet rules. I agree - my last post in this thread. -- Cleve Two-channel system; McIntosh MC2205 amplifier McIntosh MAC4100 receiver Klipsch CF-4 speakers Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck Cleve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: replaygain - Tact - SB2 - gain questions ; )
The Tact losses resolution too but it converts to 48bits before it does the volume (from what I understand). SO - If I just replaygain all my flacs to say -15db that isn't affecting resolution is it? I can't seem to get and answer about this. Thanks in advance! Tony -- mantis007 mantis007's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=491 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18638 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: replaygain - Tact - SB2 - gain questions ; )
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 11:54 -0800, mantis007 wrote: The Tact losses resolution too but it converts to 48bits before it does the volume (from what I understand). SO - If I just replaygain all my flacs to say -15db that isn't affecting resolution is it? I don't know the internals of replaygain, so I can't talk in specifics. But in general, bits are bits. Changing by 15 db is about 2 and a half bits. Lowering by 15 dB on a 16 bit signal will make it be a 13.5 bit signal. Dither can help with the half bit. In a 16 bit world, lowering the signal by two bits costs you 12 dB in signal to noise ratio. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Audiophile review of SB3
But what about Quirk's exception? :P Nah, I've said more than I wanted to say so I'm willing to let this thread be. -- Jim Jim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18660 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Receiver / Speaker Recommendations?
Hey all! I have been using the slim server for about two years now, streaming music to several computers on my home network. I am now ready to make the jump from only computer use to Squeezebox and Receiver via SPDIF in my living room. I am on a tight budget for this though and have to look in the under $500 range for a receiver and speakers. Eventually, I'll upgrade as I move toward a home theater system, but this is probably going to be at least two years from now. Does anyone have any good recommendations for brands / models of a receiver and speakers in the $500 and under range? I've been out of the home audio loop for awhile, so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks! Matt -- unipus unipus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2572 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18704 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Receiver / Speaker Recommendations?
Are you going to want to use the reciever as a selector/amplifier for sources other than the SqueezeBox? (ie: radio,cd,tv,etc). If not, you may want to consider powered speakers (amp built into speakers, aka active speakers.) In fact, even if you are using other sources, you could still use a preamp/input-switching device that would output the chosen source at line level to the powered speakers. Do a bit of forum searching for some recommendations for powered speakers that others here have experience with. --rt ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Absolute BEST ripping combo?
I just discovered the SB3 and am itching to buy one. I am a whacko audiophile that will be using an external DAC. My question is this, what is the absolute BEST audio quality ripping process? I don't care how large the files are, it's quality that counts most for me. For everything I have read, it's uncompressed WAV files ripped via ITunes. I am on a PC/Win XP platform. Thanks. -- Horizons Horizons's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Absolute BEST ripping combo?
Horizons Wrote: For everything I have read, it's uncompressed WAV files ripped via ITunes. Seriously you came to that conclusion reading stuff here? Well my friend - the answer is EAC (Exact Audio Copy) and FLAC. Check out hydrogenaudio.org - a community of audiophiles who frighten me with their listening abilities and technical terms so I don't go there - but they'll agree for computer (file-based) audio nothing beats EAC. The lossless codec you choose is pretty much irrelavant, other than FLAC is the only one supported natively by the Squeezebox, thus saves your computer the work of decoding it, and FLAC is Open Source and free, as in free beer. www.exactaudiocopy.de http://flac.sourceforge.net -- Jim Jim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Absolute BEST ripping combo?
Wave files lack tags and are bigger then they need to be. For me it's FLAC files ripped using EAC / flac.exe. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Absolute BEST ripping combo?
Horizons Wrote: I just discovered the SB3 and am itching to buy one. I am a whacko audiophile that will be using an external DAC. My question is this, what is the absolute BEST audio quality ripping process? I don't care how large the files are, it's quality that counts most for me. For everything I have read, it's uncompressed WAV files ripped via ITunes. I am on a PC/Win XP platform. Thanks. Try http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HowtoBestAudioQuality .. this is a bit of a gem thats not easy to find in the Wiki... personal opinions from the author, but none the worse for that. Ceejay (not the author of this one!) -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Absolute BEST ripping combo?
Jim Wrote: Seriously you came to that conclusion reading stuff here? QUOTE] No, sorry - I just landed here. I got the WAV/iTunes rec from reading other reviews. EAC to FLAC, huh, and this is all compatible with the SB3? Thanks. -- Horizons Horizons's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Absolute BEST ripping combo?
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 15:27 -0800, Horizons wrote: I just discovered the SB3 and am itching to buy one. I am a whacko audiophile that will be using an external DAC. I'd suggest first getting an SB3 and listening. You might not need the external DAC, and if you decide you do, you can always add it. what is the absolute BEST audio quality ripping process? I don't care how large the files are, it's quality that counts most for me. For everything I have read, it's uncompressed WAV files ripped via ITunes. There are lots of reasons to use FLAC over wav files. Its free, native supported in the SqueezeBox, free in all senses, EAC is the accepted solution for Windows boxes. Technically, you care about 'extracting' the PCM data from the CD and then optionally compressing it with Flac. You could use other lossless compression systems, MLP, LosslessWMA or Apple Lossless, but lossless is lossless as far as quality. I am on a PC/Win XP platform. Thanks. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Receiver / Speaker Recommendations?
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 13:49 -0800, unipus wrote: I am on a tight budget for this though and have to look in the under $500 range for a receiver and speakers. Why do you want a receiver? I think you'd be a lot better off with powered speakers. The SqueezeBox can play internet radio, do you really need an FM tuner? -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Absolute BEST ripping combo?
ceejay Wrote: Try http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HowtoBestAudioQuality .. this is a bit of a gem thats not easy to find in the Wiki... personal opinions from the author, but none the worse for that. Ceejay (not the author of this one!) This Beginners FAQ is proving very useful from an early stage, so well done again Ceejay. I've amended this bit as the ripping word is the wrong one to use - changed to compression as that is important. Added note about ripping to say for MP3 not to important what you use, for lossless important to use stuff like EAC. the settings you use for ripping MP3 are massively important so it's worth investing time in finding the best for you. The settings used for a lossless encoding are less critical as the only really affect compression and encoded size. -- Jim Jim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
Mike Anderson Wrote: ^^^ Thanks for the advice. Thinking about it more, I figure I ought to save up my pennies and think about trading up my MMGs for the 1.6qr's, because I'm not sure how big a difference a new DAC would make if I don't have true hi-fi speakers anyway. Well, I have played with a number of DACs and transports and find the differences minor compared to speakers. I upgraded from MMGs to 1.6's and the difference dwarfed any changes in DACs that I ever tried. By a mile. -- Horizons Horizons's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 6.2.2 - Volume Bug Patch
I'm new to the SB and have been reading about the fix gor the volume bug that was reported. What I want to know is what file do I need to download that has the fix for windows? Is it the flie marked: SlimServer_v2005-12-01.exe 01-Dec-2005 01:32 13M Windows Executable Thanks Brad -- BNAL BNAL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2582 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18652 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 6.2.2 - Volume Bug Patch
This one is the 6.2.2 nightly release with the fix in: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.2.2/ SlimServer_v2005-12-01.exe ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
^^^ Thanks. Yeah, that's my plan at this point, get the 1.6's and then think about DACs. By then they will have dropped in price even further! -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Accuracy of EAC
Like most folks, I've taken on faith the accuracy with which Exact Audio Copy rips CDs and have ripped a large number of CDs using it over the past few years. Recently, I picked up a Plextor Plexwriter Premium CD-RW drive primarily to get a much faster ripping speed without (hopefully) loss of accuracy. To my surprise however, I found that the vast majority of rips using the Plextor were bit-wise different from those CDs I had previously ripped with EAC (I used the Foobar 'Bit Compare Tracks' feature to determine this). I was understandably concerned since I was led to believe that Plextools with the Plextor drive was capable of producing extremely accurate results. In reading some forum posts, I ran across references to AccurateRip (www.accuraterip.com) that provides a software plug in for EAC that will compare the rips (CRCs?) to an online database of collected results and report the correlation. I installed this and re-ripped several CDs with EAC, and AccurateRip indicated that the rips were not accurate (confidence value of 1). On the forth of fifth CD it asked if I wanted to use that CD to set the read offsets for the drive (why it didn't do this with the first few CDs is a mystery to me). I did this and found that it had changed the read offset settings in EAC for the drive from 0 to +30. I ripped the CD and lo and behold I received an indication that the rip was accurate (confidence = 9). I re-ripped the previous few CDs and the results from them were also listed as accurate. I compared these files with those from the Plextor drive and sure enough, the decoded audio data in all of them were identical. I took a peek at the Drive Options - Offset/Speed page in EAC and there is a button on the page that will presumably detect the read sample offset for the drive, but unfortunately it states that the drive is not in its database and it does nothing. This result was the same with the other 3 drives I have, and their offsets remained at 0 as well. So it appears that EAC is NOT entirely accurate unless the read offsets are correctly set, and this is not being done by default. Without AccurateRip, I would not have known this, and I would definitely not know what the proper offsets should be. Sigh... - Ken ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
ezkcdude Wrote: So, which do you prefer? I've always heard that the coaxial output was better than toslink. I recently did an A/B test between a Wireworld SuperNova 5 glass toslink cable and an Acoustic Zen Silver Byte coax digital cable and strongly preferred the AZ Silver Byte. Deeper soundstage, more open sound, etc. A friend also did the same test in his system and preferred the Wireworld toslink; felt it had better pace and immediacy. So...personal taste has a lot to do with it... -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC
Interesting. This is definitely something I missed. However, I've tried a dozen or so reasonably popular CDs with EAC and none have been recognized as key disks. Is there a list of these someplace? - Ken Mike Anderson wrote: So it appears that EAC is NOT entirely accurate unless the read offsets are correctly set, and this is not being done by default. This is nothing new. You should have read the instructions for setting up EAC beforehand. You're supposed to use a key disc to calibrate the read offset. Somewhere on the hydrogenaudio forum there's a post with the instructions for setting up EAC properly. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Accuracy of EAC
kjg Wrote: So it appears that EAC is NOT entirely accurate unless the read offsets are correctly set, and this is not being done by default. Without AccurateRip, I would not have known this, and I would definitely not know what the proper offsets should be. Right. The discrepancy is because you hadn't set the drive offset correctly before you did your original rips. There are probably very few drives with 0 read and write offsets. My Plextor PX-712A also has a read offset correction of +30 samples. How are you supposed to know that? Beats me. I guess it helps to follow some HydrogenAudio or EAC discussion groups for a while, then find your drive in some drive features table, which is what I've always done. I've never gone the testing route to determine my drive's offsets. http://www.daefeatures.co.uk EAC isn't the most user friendly program in the world. In fact, I think the user interface sucks pretty badly. I've been using it for years and I still don't understand the implications of many of oddly placed and cryptically worded settings. I wouldn't worry about it, though, since 30 samples is only 30/44100 (0.00068) seconds - less than 1/1000th of a second. If you could find a program to shift those files that infinitesimally small amount, then I'm pretty sure you'd find the rips to be identical. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
