[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
dem Wrote: Those options would generate VBR files averaging about 245 kbps. Use any equipment you like. I find it helpful to use headphones with a lot of high end, like Grados. You can find links to various ABX programs 'here' (http://www.pcabx.com). Your goal is to have the ABX program output a value of *p* which indicates a small probability that you're just guessing correctly. For example, if after about 16 trials you have p 0.1, then there's a greater than 90% chance that you weren't guessing and could really discern a difference. So if I can get this ABX program to work with my SB3 and my main system, you're OK with that? -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
SB2 dig coax out -- Musical Fidelity X-DACv3 (+ X-PSU) -- Cyrus interconnects -- Cyrus 7 (+ PSX) -- Van Den Hal M.C. CSS 122 -- Apogee Centaur + REL Strata 5 (crossing over @ 47 Hz) Server stock cheap dell tower running SuSE 10.0 with ~500G of flac sitting on a Lacie Biggest 1Tb RAID enclosure running over firewire. Am generally very happy with the whole setup. I auditioned the squeezebox using a Musical Fidelity Pre-24 that I had on trial and A/B between CD transport and Squeezebox (both using the Pre-24 converters) made me take the Pre-24 straight back to the shop. Sold my old CD player as well... -- alexfiennes alexfiennes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
highdudgeon Wrote: I'm wondering how many people have done careful listening comparing the Squeezebox with and without a high-end external DAC? IE, is there much benefit to be gained? Little? None at all? Personally, I think it sounds quite good. I do have a re-clocking DAC on order. Comments, thoughts. Also, comments and thoughts on an external power supply? Worth it? And, surely, there must be a commercial unit available that would be cheaper than one of the audiophile versions (ie, Boulder, etc.). Yes, I have tried the SB3 with and without a good DAC and the difference is fairly clear in a revealing, highish end system (my speakers are $8,000 professional monitors). The Benchmark DAC1 was ahead of the analogue outputs of the SB3 in terms of detail retrieval and perceived depth/ solidity (hard to find the right words). For me the more interesting question was whether there is a difference between using a CD player as a transport and using the SB3 as a transport. I concluded that the answer was little or possibly none. See here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=77259postcount=19 Andrew -- Andrew B. = SB3- Benchmark DAC1 - ATC CA2 pre - ATC SCM50ASL active speakers... nice! Andrew B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
As my signature says: SB2 - Rotel RC1070 preamp - RB1070 poweramp - dynaBel Exact speakers. Cables: Kimber Kable Timbre / Supra EFF-I / Kimber Kable 4TC I am currently testing different interconnects so this will change. I am also waiting for a SB3 and a linear powersupply. Tom -- tomsi42 SqueezeBox2, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
Mike Anderson Wrote: SB2 digital out - Behringer DEQ2496 digital out - Benchmark DAC1 XLR balanced out - Pathos Logos - Magnepan 1.6qr Mike, can you elaborate on your experiences with the DEQ2496? I was interested in this device to try and smooth out some minor bass humps dips in my room, but after posting a question in rec.audio.pro (where many professionals hang out), got the impression that at best it might improve matters in a single sweet spot while making things worse elsewhere in the room. While I'm here, may as well contribute to the poll. Mine is a truly minimalist setup: SB2 analogue output directly feeding a pair of ATC SCM100A active monitors. -- cliveb cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
pfarrell Wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 22:22 -0800, Brad Smith wrote: I want to jump in here with a more beginner level question... Beginners always welcome. But be warned, this can be an adiction when you are referring to an external DAC, I assume you mean using the optical out to process it by another device, such as a receiver. When audiophiles talk about an external DAC, they mean an external box that just does Digial to Analog Conversion. Whether the optical or SPDIF wire is used is a separate issue. [snip] HTH -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html I think you mean optical or coaxial. SPDIF is a digital format, not a physical connection type. So both the optical and coaxial outputs are likely to be SPDIF format in most digital outputs on consumer electronics(there are other professional formats). Sorry to be picky. Andrew -- Andrew B. = SB3- Benchmark DAC1 - ATC CA2 pre - ATC SCM50ASL active speakers... nice! Andrew B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
cliveb Wrote: Mike, can you elaborate on your experiences with the DEQ2496? I was interested in this device to try and smooth out some minor bass humps dips in my room, but after posting a question in rec.audio.pro (where many professionals hang out), got the impression that at best it might improve matters in a single sweet spot while making things worse elsewhere in the room. While I'm here, may as well contribute to the poll. Mine is a truly minimalist setup: SB2 analogue output directly feeding a pair of ATC SCM100A active monitors. Nice speaker choice... when I get minimal then I run mine off the variable output of the DAC1 - but I still have other sources to deal with. Andrew -- Andrew B. = SB3- Benchmark DAC1 - ATC CA2 pre - ATC SCM50ASL active speakers... nice! Andrew B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
Andrew B. Wrote: I think you mean optical or coaxial. SPDIF is a digital format, not a physical connection type. So both the optical and coaxial outputs are likely to be SPDIF format in most digital outputs on consumer electronics(there are other professional formats). Sorry to be picky. Andrew My understanding is the S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format) specifies a 75R coaxial cable and phono connectors. The optical version (which uses the same data formatting) was developed by Toshiba and is commonly called Toslink. But I'm happy to stand corrected. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
SB3 - Onkyo NR801 (pure audio mode) - Infifnity ES250 Onkyo pre-out - Bryston BP20 BP20 Out #1 - BK r200.2 - Bose 901 BP20 Out #2 - Bryston 3bst - BW Matrix 805 -- deepblu deepblu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3456 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
No doubt iPod won't meet everyone's expectations, but I don't really see anything in your list of objections that would sway me, and I stand by my recommendation. And that's fine, I was simply pointing out that there are many legitimate reasons why people don't want iPods, and that the belief that there is nothing better is entirely subjective. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
I'll add one more shortcoming to the list: lack of support for replaygain. Any device that supports a shuffle playback mode really needs to support gain tags. Take care of that and add FLAC support for those times when I just don't want to transcode, and the iPod would be just about complete for me. For now I use one anyway. Because I already have it. It does most of what I want, and there's not anything out there that's compellingly better. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
pfarrell Wrote: Phono or is it really supposed to be BNC? (since it is hard if not impossible to stay 75 ohm with RCA) IIRC it does say RCA - but as you say it's impossible to get 75R RCAs. I think in the early days of digital, they just didn't realise it mattered. Just like even today, some people think that jitter doesn't matter. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
pfarrell Wrote: Patrick Dixon wrote: I think you mean optical or coaxial. SPDIF is a digital format, not a physical connection type. So both the optical and coaxial outputs are likely to be SPDIF format in most digital outputs on consumer electronics(there are other professional formats). My understanding is the S/PDIF (Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format) specifies a 75R coaxial cable and phono connectors. The optical version (which uses the same data formatting) was developed by Toshiba and is commonly called Toslink. That was my understanding as well, I also could be wrong. Phono or is it really supposed to be BNC? (since it is hard if not impossible to stay 75 ohm with RCA) I am also pretty sure that the AES/EBU is essentially the same digital bitstream over XLR connected three wire cable. AESS/EBU obviously doesn't even have the silly consumer anti-fair use flags, but most consumer gear can be set to ignore those flags anyway. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html There is an explanation here: http://www.answers.com/topic/s-pdif S/PDIF is specified as an RCA connector but has an optical alternative also within the S/PDIF standard. The optical alternative is known as Toslink (Toshiba link) but uses the S/PDIF rather than the AES/EBU standard as far as the control bit is concerned. But it is common to call the RCA connector version of S/PDIF SPDIF and the optical connector version of S/PDIF Toslink. The more important difference is between AES/EBU (which has a much higher voltage electrical interface) and S/PDIF. Andrew -- Andrew B. = SB3- Benchmark DAC1 - ATC CA2 pre - ATC SCM50ASL active speakers... nice! Andrew B.'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
This thread got me thinking that I never gave the internal dac of the SB3 a fair go. So I hooked the SB3 analog out into the preamp as well and am able to flick between SB3 and dac1 with the push of a button. First impressions are that they sound pretty much the same. If there is a difference it must be very subtle, perhaps one is slightly brighter or has better staging, imaging or prat. I'll have to have a few more games over the next week. Admittedly I didn't use the balanced out on the dac1 which I found sounds slightly better in a previous test. I'll have to get a cable made up for it. I am using the standard (australian) powersupply for the SB3. The rest of the system is Naim 52/250 and Linn Isobariks. Gus -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
Andrew what cables did you use on the dac1? I am wondering if I am not getting the best out of my DAC1. I really couldn't hear a clear difference between it and the SB3. Perhaps a test at volume will be more revealing but that will have to wait till tomorrow as it is the middle of the night in Aus. cheers Gus -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Apple iPod HI-FI No Threat to SB!
No serious audio company need worry about this. The same people that buy these units probably think there's no need to buy CDs for $11.99 when they can buy an album of 128 kbps AAC files from the Itunes store. I purchased a song from the Itunes store today - just to test - it's only 128 kpbs and sub-par sonic quality. Ok for a portable radio or computer, but inadequate for home audio. -- Cleve Two-channel system; McIntosh MC2205 amplifier McIntosh MAC4100 receiver Klipsch CF-4 speakers Denon DR-M3 Cassette Deck Cleve's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21595 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
P Floding Wrote: So if I can get this ABX program to work with my SB3 and my main system, you're OK with that? These programs generally work using your computer's sound card. I don't think you could get them to work with the SB3. -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
fuzzyT Wrote: I'll add one more shortcoming to the list: lack of support for replaygain. Any device that supports a shuffle playback mode really needs to support gain tags. iTunes has a feature similar to ReplayGain called 'Sound Check' (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61655). I haven't tried it, as I use 'mp3gain' (http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net) to normalize the volume of my MP3 files in a device-independent way. -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
gusi Wrote: Seeing that the SBs also have a tuner it would be tempting to run it straight into a poweramp and use its local volume control. Has anyone tried it? Are there any impedance issues? Yes, my SB2 directly drives the power amps in ATC active speakers, and works fine (with the proviso that you need a separate ground strap to prevent the balanced inputs on the ATC interpreting the slight ripple on the screen as signal and amplifying it into a fairly alarming hum!). However, if you're using Naim power amps, this might not be a good idea. Naim power amps rely on a bandwidth-limited preamp to avoid instability problems. Don't know how they might react to a naked SB analogue signal. -- cliveb cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BK and JM Lab! (+SB3 Treo650 G5???)
I'm thinking of picking this thing up, it looks like it may finally be what I've been waiting for. I think I have a recipe for a great sound system. So, I will proceed to explain my resourceful blend of componentry: I picked up a slightly older but fantastic audiophile grade receiver from Audiogon.com, a sort of forum and swapmeet for used and new gear. It's the BK 307, that would be 7 x 150w. By now the BK 507-II is out and I'm sure that's even better, but all good things in time. I also picked up a slightly older set of JM Lab (french, but what the hell) Cobalt 815's, as well as Cobalt SR800 and matching sub and center. I'll complete the 67 channels later this year. Now this receiver has a zillion optical ports on it. This is the first system I've ever owned where I can actually see the music, that is, the stage is so huge and I could be standing over the ride-cymbal or right next to the cello strings, it's really a whole new understanding and experience as I enter my 30's. Something I dont' see myself appreciating a few years ago. And now I understand that bigger wattage isn't for VOLUME!!!...it's for fullness and soundstage and all that good stuff. On to the computer.. I've been a Mac head now since the original iMacs of '98, and have watched the OS evolve into something spectacular, and my iTunes library has mushroomed into a 6,300+ collection. I have a mid-'05 G5 along with a Comcast Cable-modem, but have never gone wireless. I have a Powerbook for business though, that's all ready to go with it's Airport Card, so a wireless router wouldn't hurt. And finally, the phone So I picked up the new Treo 650 Sprint phone, and from what I'm gathering, it looks as if I can use it as a remote control for the SB3??? Jeezus. So does anyone have any input, experience, or anything to add to this idea I'm culling? Is there truly to be no loss in quality going from my iTunes in the bedroom to the receiver in the frontroom? What kind of configuring should I need to do on my Mac with the router? Which kind of router should I pick up? Will the SB3 just read the router and that's that? It has wireless already built into it right? OK! thought I'd share this setup to get some ideas, and maybe even give some too. Hope to hear from people! Ciao. -matt in Chicago -- headshot headshot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4303 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21682 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
radish Wrote: And that's fine, I was simply pointing out that there are many legitimate reasons why people don't want iPods, and that the belief that there is nothing better is entirely subjective. Hey, the original poster solicited opinions. I gave mine. You have a different one. I'm cool with that. we can still be friends, right? :cheers: -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Olive Musica
hahaha, okay that tops robin's mispost last night. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Olive Musica
gobikey Wrote: i'm still laughing. That's the kind of email error that can kill product lines. If that turned up in a magazine of newspaper it could do a lot of harm to their reputation. I guess you could always forward it to the parent German company... -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Mobile Music
dem Wrote: These programs generally work using your computer's sound card. I don't think you could get them to work with the SB3. ok! As luck would have it I also have a LynxONE sound card.. ;-) -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21370 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Olive Musica
Wow Gobikey, looks like you have a bit of leverage at this point... Use it. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Olive Musica
You know, I have a feeling that email may get around a little :) -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
pfarrell Wrote: Using a EQ, or better a DSP, can make it better at one spot. And doing that may make you happy. The whole point is to be happy. Right - when I'm sitting in my listening spot, I can switch the EQ on or off, to see how the sound changes. It changes pretty dramatically, and I prefer it when it's on. So whether the thing is fixing the frequency response anywhere else in the room is irrelevant to me. And I was also aware that it's not a particularly rugged unit, but it doesn't do anything but sit on a table for me, so I'm not terribly worried about it. It doesn't cost a fortune in any case. -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
pfarrell Wrote: One warning, any EQ that mortals can afford will change the phase of the signal at some or many frequencies. What would this sound like? -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
Squeeze box II Diyparadise Monica 2 DAC Bottlehead S.E.X. tube amp DIY aperiodic vent boxes w/ Visaton B200 drivers. The use of the DAC made all the difference in the world. Without, the Squeeze box was basically at the same sonic level as my 80 dollar toshiba dvd player. (Even before the DAC, I really dug the Squeeze box however. I use it as a wireless bridge every day to relay internet from our nursery office, 600 feet across the property, to our current residence - a 30 ft. trailer. Thanks to the squeeze box, I have streaming internet and streaming audio. Very, very cool.) Scott. -- scott_m scott_m's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] EQ considered not audiophile
Mike Anderson wrote: pfarrell Wrote: One warning, any EQ that mortals can afford will change the phase of the signal at some or many frequencies. What would this sound like? Depends a huge amount on what frequencies are effected and by how much. Phase is time. Phase is how we humans tell direction of sounds. The good news is that for this application, killing standing waves, etc. the majority of the sounds in question are low frequency, typically 50Hz or lower. And for the most part, since the wave lengths are 20 or more feet, phase is irrelevant. Which is why true low frequencies are not directional. At the worst case, playing with phase is what all the 70s stoner rock and roll (Moody Blues, ELP, etc.) played with. They would zoom sounds around your head with phase. This totally destroys 'imaging' and proper placement of instruments in a sound stage. At a lesser level, it can kill the spacial image that you have of the music, destroy the illusion that there are real instruments in real space before you. Phase games are how small speakers or two speakers throw the illusion of surround sound. It is most of what the 'hall modes' of most AV receivers do. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Olive Musica
gobikey Wrote: update: still hadn't heard back from Olive about an $253.05 unexplained difference in my refund until today. i got this. must have been an internal message mistakenly sent to me. i'm still laughing. - - - From: Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mar 2, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: Re: rma To: (my name and email) should i tell him to go F--k himself? this is the jackass who wrote the horrible review On Mar 1, 2006, at 12:41 PM, (my name) wrote: I haven't heard back from anyone about this. Please clear up the recent billing mistake and the shipping billing error from months ago. (my name) - - - i guess they read my cnet review. ; ) OT How is the mdhtlabs Paradiso DAC sounding compared the the stock and/or modded SB3? -- rajacat rajacat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Apple iPod HI-FI No Threat to SB!
For someone who is already sucked into the iPod/iTunes vortex, this is the next logical step. They probably already have a way to play their iPod through the car stereo; now they can replace their bedroom or dorm stereo with one of these boomboxes. For people who carry their whole music collection on the iPod, and for whom the music is more important than the sound quality, this HiFi pod is ideal, really. I'm sure there are millions who'll be happy with it, and it's probably quite listenable - better than the cheapo systems with all the flashing blue lights. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21595 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
