[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 uncontrolled full scale output bug - still a concern?
Barry, The title of the post was Extremely loud white noise from Squeezebox?!. URL: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19309highlight=white+noise -- dmsmit1 dmsmit1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21772 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?
System 1 SB2 SPDIF out Meridian 568.2 Processor/DAC Meridian 557 Power Amp Shahinian Arcs System 2 SB1 SPDIF out Meridian D600 DSP Active Speakers System 3 SB2 Analogue Out Ion Obelisk 1 Kef Q50 Mr Perceptive -- Mr Perceptive Mr Perceptive's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1451 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21643 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Coax or Optical
Hi, my SB3 should be in the mail box very soon. what should i go for when connecting the device, coax or digital? does the system come with cables or will i need to purchase them myself? thanx Anders -- AndersR AndersR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 uncontrolled full scale output bug - still a concern?
Quoting ezkcdude [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think you should be careful, indeed. sorry about the mispost ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 uncontrolled full scale output bug - still a concern?
Is this in Bugzilla anywhere? I have only witnessed this once in normal use, when I unplugged a lamp transformer from an adjacent mains socket. This lead me to suspect that a noise spike on the mains supply had disrupted the Xilinx RAM configuration somehow, and if so it's potentially an issue for CE conformity. My experience with FPGAs is predominately with antifuse technology (eg Actel), so I don't know if is this is a common Xilinx type problem. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21772 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone recommend decent speaker cable?
crooner Wrote: I use regular 14 gauge extension cord cable from Home Depot. The brand is Commercial Electric. Hear hear! Add my vote for extension cord. -- abdomen abdomen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21750 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical
It comes with RCA and ethernet cables. YOu'll need to supply your own coax or optical digital cable. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 to Outlaw 990 preamp/controller?
My experience is that the SB3 sounds very good using its own DAC and analog section, but can sound even better when connected to a good outboard DAC or processor. Try it both ways and use whichever sounds best. As for the surround processing, yes! I rarely listen in stereo. If you'll be using surround, it's almost certainly better to use a digital connection from the SB3, since you can eliminate the D-to-A and A-to-D conversions which would be in play when using the analog RCA outs from the SB3. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21773 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Calling all audiophiles - Uncompressed or lossless?
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: ...get some audiophiles together for structured double-blind listening tests... I'd find the results more interesting if the test used ordinary people. I think Radish nailed the point about the digital stream. Compared to what's going on in a typical PC, getting the right bits in the right order at the right time to the DAC is hardly rocket science. Most decent DACS buffer and reclock the stream anyway, by which time the only thing left of our precious FLAC files is the bit value and order... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21700 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The SqueezeBox Audiophile Solution
Many have questioned why SD doesn't market an audiophile form factor SquieezeBox - there's been much talk about this and even I was posting in the past hoping for a positive response. SD maintains they need a mass market device and yes, they have one but audiophiles have championed the 19 rack standard and so have I. At some point it becomes clear the perfect solution for SD is to sell their existing SB's in a disassembled version with long leads for the display (this minimizes any new production costs and offers audiophiles just what they need a DIY SueezeBox Installation kit). I've attached some photos of my SB2 installation which involved purchasing a 2U rack panel, (1) rack shelf for the SB components, measuring the display cutout requirements and having a machinist laser cut the hole and score the panel. Not even a days work! BTW the SB is behind the top rack panel under the Monster Power conditioner. For those of you who absolutely don't want to open the SB up to remote the display you can simply sit the SB behind the panel (requires making very accurate measurements for height and width including those rubber feet). Your choice of filters should take into consideration the exiting SB filter and your lighting environment. I think you'll agree this is a solution even an audiophile will love. Next up - many of you have complained about the SB remote. We should keep in mind this is a network device which means if you really want to talk about a comprehensive solution purchase a Bluetooth PDA (i.e. Palm LifeDrive), Salling Clicker (remote client) with SlimServer and the SB - you'll be able to do nice things like everything from the PDA without needing line-of-sight to talk to the SB. You'll also be able to control lights w/Indigo, iDVD, iTunes, iPhoto and the whole freakin world. Once we put into perspective the SB firmware is updatable, the software is Open Source and they still use screws to hold the SB together we can do just about whatever we want.. Enjoy +---+ |Filename: P1000158.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=985| +---+ -- Masterbaron Masterbaron's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=203 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21781 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: It comes with RCA and ethernet cables. YOu'll need to supply your own coax or optical digital cable. Ok but what will give me the best sound, the coax or the optical cable? -- AndersR AndersR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: The SqueezeBox Audiophile Solution
Masterbaron Wrote: Many have questioned why SD doesn't market an audiophile form factor SquieezeBox - there's been much talk about this and even I was posting in the past hoping for a positive response. SD maintains they need a mass market device and yes, they have one but audiophiles have championed the 19 rack standard and so have I. At some point it becomes clear the perfect solution for SD is to sell their existing SB's in a disassembled version with long leads for the display (this minimizes any new production costs and offers audiophiles just what they need a DIY SueezeBox Installation kit). I've attached some photos of my SB2 installation which involved purchasing a 2U rack panel, (1) rack shelf for the SB components, measuring the display cutout requirements and having a machinist laser cut the hole and score the panel. Not even a days work! BTW the SB is behind the top rack panel under the Monster Power conditioner. For those of you who absolutely don't want to open the SB up to remote the display you can simply sit the SB behind the panel (requires making very accurate measurements for height and width including those rubber feet). Your choice of filters should take into consideration the exiting SB filter and your lighting environment. I think you'll agree this is a solution even an audiophile will love. Next up - many of you have complained about the SB remote. We should keep in mind this is a network device which means if you really want to talk about a comprehensive solution purchase a Bluetooth PDA (i.e. Palm LifeDrive), Salling Clicker (remote client) with SlimServer and the SB - you'll be able to do nice things like everything from the PDA without needing line-of-sight to talk to the SB. You'll also be able to control lights w/Indigo, iDVD, iTunes, iPhoto and the whole freakin world. Once we put into perspective the SB firmware is updatable, the software is Open Source and they still use screws to hold the SB together we can do just about whatever we want.. Enjoy Hi, looks very nice! what about the SB itself? Any tweaks like upgraded DAC, RCA, PSU etc? Anders -- AndersR AndersR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21781 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical
Anders, Check the internal dac as well before you buy an external dac. I can't hear the difference between the internal dac and the benchmark on my SB3. cheers Gus -- gusi gusi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Calling all audiophiles - Uncompressed or lossless?
Phil Leigh Wrote: I think Radish nailed the point about the digital stream. Compared to what's going on in a typical PC, getting the right bits in the right order at the right time to the DAC is hardly rocket science. This really isn't about bits, or the fact that computer networks work at higher data rates - that precisely misses the point, actually. The issue arises because digital audio transmits data isynchronously, unlike a computer network. That makes things much trickier. If you don't believe this, an very good paper on the subject is here: http://www.stereophile.com/reference/1093jitter/index.html But (as I said before) this has nothing to do with the original topic anyway. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21700 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone recommend decent speaker cable?
sebage Wrote: Anti-cable looks great. I have the anti-cables in my system. They sound fine, but my only complaint is that they -don't- look great. The wire has a degree of stiffness that's a little more malleable than coathanger wire. Once they get bent around a little, they actually look kind of cruddy. You'd have to be be very careful with them to keep them looking smooth and pretty. -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21750 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone recommend decent speaker cable?
sebage Wrote: zooropa320 - what are you replacing with your bluejeans cable? Replacing THX certified Monster Cable. Don't know the exact spec but I needed longer cables and wanted to bi-wire my Magnepan 3.5Rs.I replaced every cable in my system with items from bluejeanscable.com including interconnects, digital coax, component video, etc. The only one I couldn't get was a toslink (optical out from my cable box) because they don't sell those. They carry a nice Canare quad cable which is good for bi-wiring. Alan was also able to make me a custom cable for my REL Strata III with a Speakon connector on one end and spades on the other for a direct connect to my amp. -- zooropa320 zooropa320's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21750 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
ezkcdude Wrote: I will wait with bated breath, as I'm sure will many of you. I have the Squeeze Box installed in my listening room, hooked up via WiFi to the Mac Mini in my test lab that serves as our household music server. SlimServer had no trouble recognizing my iTunes library and I'm currently listening to Pink Floyd's Echoes, ripped to AAC at 320kbps with the SB feeding my Levinson DAC via Toslink. I am hoping to write up my experience with the SB in the mid-March edition of the Stereophile eNewsletter, with further coverage in the June or July issues of the paper magazine. (If that sounds a long way off, we are just about to put the May issue to bed.) John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile -- John Atkinson John Atkinson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4364 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
John Atkinson Wrote: ...and I'm currently listening to Pink Floyd's Echoes, ripped to AAC at 320kbps with the SB feeding my Levinson DAC via Toslink. John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile I'm currently listening to Garcia and Grisman, ripped with EAC secure mode to FLAC tracks, at 710kbps CBR with the SB feeding a cheap tube integrated (jolida 102). It's pretty ideal for me. Good to hear you didn't have any setup issues. I'll be sure to pick up that issue. Cheers. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
Skunk Wrote: I'm currently listening to Garcia and Grisman, ripped with EAC secure mode to FLAC tracks, at 710kbps CBR What is 710kbps CBR? That's not an available mp3 bitrate limit. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical
AndersR Wrote: Ok but what will give me the best sound, the coax or the optical cable? Whichever is in your hand.. the answer is yes, it sounds best. -- kanoot kanoot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4324 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
John Atkinson Wrote: I have the Squeeze Box installed in my listening room, hooked up via WiFi to the Mac Mini in my test lab that serves as our household music server. SlimServer had no trouble recognizing my iTunes library and I'm currently listening to Pink Floyd's Echoes, ripped to AAC at 320kbps with the SB feeding my Levinson DAC via Toslink. I am hoping to write up my experience with the SB in the mid-March edition of the Stereophile eNewsletter, with further coverage in the June or July issues of the paper magazine. (If that sounds a long way off, we are just about to put the May issue to bed.) John Atkinson Editor, Stereophile Welcome, John! Because I'm slightly star-struck :), I won't belabor the point, but why aren't you using FLAC or some other lossless codec? I'm sure others besides myself would like to know whether YOU, of all the golden ears out there, could put some of these issues to rest by testing for differences between lossless codecs and lower bitrate lossy formats. Just a suggestion! If you frequent these forums enough, you will quickly realize why I proposed this. -- ezkcdude To be determined... ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone recommend decent speaker cable?
I forgot to mention that as usual, your mileage may vary. Obviously the HD didn't work out for you. I am sure expensive cables would sound much better, but IMHO, for the price you can't beat them. sebage Wrote: Funnily enough, I had tried the 14 gauge route already, to try and appease the cosmetic community... And IMHO, it sucked. Paper thin sound, no bass, no detail - so much so that the instigator of the required cosmetic changes said she would far rather live with the old biwire cable than put up with the sound of the 14 gauge. Obviously, YMMV! Anti-cable looks great. I am intrigued by the fact that the manufactur says it is OK to run odd lengths. Cat5 looks a bit beyond my DIYing skills. And pateince! Great idea tho. zooropa320 - what are you replacing with your bluejeans cable? Thanks all for your replys. -- crooner Squeezebox 3 with DIY Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC Pioneer SX-1980 Vandersteen 2Ce Signature Vandersteen 2W crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21750 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Linear Power Supply DIY Weekend Project
Here are my assesments: The SB3's bass performance has indeed been enhanced. I find bass much more tuneful, tighter. Very musical. Midrange performance is comparable to my earlier supply. Buttery smooth with very convincing portrayal of female vocals. Nice texture around percussive instruments. Highs are extended but not fatiguing at all. You only find high-end extension on recordings that have it. The subtle sound of triangles are nicely reproduced. The depth on the first part of Andreas Vollenweider's Caverna Magica was realistically reproduced. I have found the SB3 is now less forgiving of bad recordings. If the recording has faults they will be evident on the SB3. On the same token, high bitrate MP3s of good recordings still sound decent. In all, a worthwhile upgrade to the stock switcher. I am now a believer! -- crooner Squeezebox 3 with DIY Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC Pioneer SX-1980 Vandersteen 2Ce Signature Vandersteen 2W crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
JJZolx Wrote: What is 710kbps CBR? That's not an available mp3 bitrate limit. The file is FLAC so has been (lossly) compressed - I guess this is the average bitrate for the file after it has been compressed. - Simon. -- brookheather brookheather's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4317 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Linear Power Supply DIY Weekend Project
crooner Wrote: In all, a worthwhile upgrade to the stock switcher. I am now a believer! Great news. The reason I asked, is that I have ordered a linear powersupply myself. I am getting a Calex unit (32005A) that looks very similar to the power one unit. -- tomsi42 SqueezeBox2, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
JJZolx wrote: Skunk Wrote: I'm currently listening to Garcia and Grisman, ripped with EAC secure mode to FLAC tracks, at 710kbps CBR What is 710kbps CBR? That's not an available mp3 bitrate limit. It's the average equivalent bitrate of the flac file - this various between files. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review in the works!
brookheather Wrote: The file is FLAC so has been (lossly) compressed - I guess this is the average bitrate for the file after it has been compressed. - Simon. I think he meant 320kbps is the highest bitrate you can select in EAC, when using external compression. It's rather confusing to me, I'll admit. I wan't even sure if AAC was the apple lossless format or not, so I didn't mention it. Since I'm posting here again I may as well add that I hope the Squeezebox gets put of the jitter analyzer, if possible. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21628 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Linear Power Supply DIY Weekend Project
Great! I am sure you will find the improvement worthwhile. -- crooner Squeezebox 3 with DIY Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC Pioneer SX-1980 Vandersteen 2Ce Signature Vandersteen 2W crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Linear Power Supply DIY Weekend Project
crooner Wrote: Great! I am sure you will find the improvement worthwhile. Is it quiet as a mouse and cooler than the other side of the pillow? -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Linear Power Supply DIY Weekend Project
No transformer is completely silent. However, you have to stick your ear to the case to hear the hum! It's running much cooler than the other supply, only getting warm on the side that's bolted to the enclosure. Not totally cool like the switcher, obviously... I took the top cover off and touched the transformer and it was quite warm after 24 hours of burn-in. I also found the output drifted to 5.04 volts. I readjusted it to exactly 5 volts again. I have to stop worrying about this and leave it alone! -- crooner Squeezebox 3 with DIY Linear Power Supply Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC Pioneer SX-1980 Vandersteen 2Ce Signature Vandersteen 2W crooner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3379 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21505 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Coax or Optical
AndersR Wrote: Hi, my SB3 should be in the mail box very soon. what should i go for when connecting the device, coax or digital? does the system come with cables or will i need to purchase them myself? thanx Anders If you have an optical cable, as well as a coax, hook it up with both at the same time. Switch between them. If you can't hear any difference, unhook the coax and listen to the optical. Can you now hear any difference compared to before? If yes, go with the optical! If no, go with the optical anyway! If, on the other hand, you could actually hear a difference when both coax and optical were connected at the same time, then you have to choose based on comparing optical (with disconnected coax!), to coax. Why all this strange reasoning? Well, I've come to the conclusion that at least in my system the act of connecting the SB to the DAC galvanically (electrically) makes a bigger difference to the sound than the actual path the digital information takes! So the coax is a bad influence even if I'm actually listening to the optical. -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Patrick Dixon Wrote: Here's a photo of my brother's system (from top: SB2+ PLAYER, PSU, SERVER, AMP), and a close up of the MiniITX server: You do nice work, and I'm always interested in your posts here and on PFmedia (where i only lurk). Just wanted to retract my statement re: the attractiveness of your enclosures. Cheers. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone recommend decent speaker cable?
Mike Anderson Wrote: I just ordered some of these from Parts Express: http://tinyurl.com/rl67b The glass optical cables work well, and don't cost an arm and a leg. this one? DAYTON GOC-1.5 GLASS OPTICAL DIGITAL CABLE -- zooropa320 zooropa320's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21750 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB-3 and external DAC
Still can't report on this as the dealer had sent back the DAC to Chord as they had no interest in the Chord gear they had in stock. So - did listen to a Cyrus DAC-X and I won't be buying one. Not suprising as I listened to their CD8X CD player with the PSX-R psu and that went back to the dealer as I couln't live with it. Will keep trying (comments about the Benchmark DAC noted) Cheers Paul -- paulf1965 paulf1965's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4186 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone recommend decent speaker cable?
You might take a look at the Mapleshade speaker wires. http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/audioproducts/speakercable.php Very nice sounding in my system. I had tried fat braided copper bi-wires and DIY Cat5 before these. They were a big upgrade over both. Plus versions are, I believe, cryo'd. --rt ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 uncontrolled full scale output bug - still a concern?
95bcwh Wrote: Thanks Dan dmsmit1 for pointing me to the right direction. As I read those threads, it does seems to me that although this white noise thing rarely occured, but the consequence can be extremely severe. However, I also noted that it seems like Slimdevices had then introduce a Preamp volume control function that will help to lower the risk, please correct me if I'm wrong. I had white noise through the digital output. The preamp volume was already developed by then, but it does not affect the digital outputs. So the preamp volume control did not stop the noise. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21772 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 to Outlaw 990 preamp/controller?
Pale Blue, May I ask what surround processor you use? I'd like to find one with audio-only, don't need video switching or processing since my video sources would go direct to the TV. So far the only audio only ones I've found are very expensive. Pale Blue Ego Wrote: My experience is that the SB3 sounds very good using its own DAC and analog section, but can sound even better when connected to a good outboard DAC or processor. Try it both ways and use whichever sounds best. As for the surround processing, yes! I rarely listen in stereo. If you'll be using surround, it's almost certainly better to use a digital connection from the SB3, since you can eliminate the D-to-A and A-to-D conversions which would be in play when using the analog RCA outs from the SB3. -- dmsmit1 dmsmit1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21773 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ripping Quality
Does the CD model matter a lot? Tricks suggestions? -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Ripping Quality
Some people swear by their Plextor drives but using EAC in secure mode along with AccurateRip levels the playing field as far as I'm concerned. -- zooropa320 zooropa320's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3420 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 to Outlaw 990 preamp/controller?
I'm just using a mid-fi NAD T760 receiver, which has 24bit/96kHz DACs from Crystal. I do like NAD's E.A.R.S. processing for creating 5.1 from stereo signals (Enhanced Ambient Recovery System). It creates a very natural-sounding surround spread, not like those horrid STADIUM, HALL, CLUB settings you get with ProLogic I. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21773 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 to Outlaw 990 preamp/controller?
I think the answer to this question is that it depends. I have both an HT setup and a Music setup. The DAC in my BK Ref 50 is very respectable in terms of specs. However, for music, it just doesn't sound as good as my dedicated music DAC. For music, I prefer to listen in Stereo - most of the effects just sound so artificial. So when you compare the cost of a Benchmark to an Outlaw, remember that the Outlaw does a lot more - A/V switching, DSP processing, etc. It does these things well, but it is not focused as the Benchmark is on two channel output. I would think that you are probably getting better jitter control, and better analog output from the Benchmark. You are getting more versatility from the Outlaw. So figure out where you place value. Since this is an Audiophile forum, you may find that people will sacrafice convenience for fidelity or whatever they perceive as better sound. In my case, I have done that with my SB2. YMMV. -- mamsterla mamsterla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=469 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21773 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 uncontrolled full scale output bug - still a concern?
Dan, Can you help me to understand just one last thing, which still doesn't make sense to me. I keep reading that the volume control on SB3 is digital. If it's strictly digital, doesn't it mean when we lower the volume, the analog output voltage should remain unchanged, because all we do is changing the amplitude of the digital signal? After reading so many posts, it now seems to me that SB3 has three different volume control: (1) The volume control done via the remote is actually an analog volume control, which will change the analog output voltage from 0 to 2.1Vrms (full-scale)? (2) We can adjust the digital volume on the web interface which does not change the output voltage? (3) We can further adjust the analog volume via the preamp volume control function on the web interface, which will change the analog output voltage from 0 to 2.1Vrms? I put question marks on all the above.. because I am not sure of the answer at all. Thank you for your patience. Barry -- 95bcwh 95bcwh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21772 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Anyone recommend decent speaker cable?
zooropa320 Wrote: this one? DAYTON GOC-1.5 GLASS OPTICAL DIGITAL CABLE Yup, that's it. -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21750 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
