[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] what happens to HiRez files inside squeezebox?
I have a squeeze box, only used fixed digital output to feed my external DAC. I fed 176.4K files, 96K files (downloaded from reference recordings, verified by reading the tags) into the squeeze box from squeeze center. these files played both through the analog output and the SPDIF output. But my external DAC displayed 44.1K. My question, does anyone know what happened to the hirez files inside the squeeze box? did it just down convert to 44.1K? Is the squeezesbox capable of higher than 44.1K data? Where would I find information on this? thanks. -- mmc mmc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69993 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] what happens to HiRez files inside squeezebox?
mmc;474220 Wrote: I have a squeeze box, only used fixed digital output to feed my external DAC. I fed 176.4K files, 96K files (downloaded from reference recordings, verified by reading the tags) into the squeeze box from squeeze center. these files played both through the analog output and the SPDIF output. But my external DAC displayed 44.1K. My question, does anyone know what happened to the hirez files inside the squeeze box? did it just down convert to 44.1K? Is the squeezesbox capable of higher than 44.1K data? Where would I find information on this? thanks. What version of the server software are you running, and what hardware is the server running on? SOX is used on recent server versions but only on platforms that can support it (e.g. some NAS don't). This will downsample according a multiple of the original file rate, so 176.4 will go down to 44.1, 96 will go down to 48. SB devices can only output 24/48 max (apart from Transporter and Touch) If you are really seeing a 24/96 file going down to 44.1, that implies that SOX is not being used. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69993 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] what happens to HiRez files inside squeezebox?
which squeeze box SB2/3 can do 24/48 SB1 is said to have 16 or 20 bits up to 48kHz transporter does 24/96 -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69993 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] what happens to HiRez files inside squeezebox?
Mnyb;474253 Wrote: which squeeze box SB2/3 can do 24/48 SB1 is said to have 16 or 20 bits up to 48kHz transporter does 24/96 SB2/3 can do 24/48. SB1 has other issues... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69993 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
I'm moving from Europe to the US, so I need to replace my amps for my squeezeboxes, I have an old Creek amp and a Rega amp (actually this amp may work, I'll see when I get there), both are British made and give great sound. Obviously I can keep my existing speakers. Are there similar audiophile manufacturers in the US? If so who are they? Or do I need to buy imports of all the same stuff I get over here, like Creek, Rega, Mission, Musical Fidelity, NAD etc. etc. -- Seineseeker SlimServer: 6.3.1 + AlienBBC. Amp: Rega Mira (Salon) / Creek 4040 (Pallier). Speakers: JMLAB Chorus (Salon) / Scandyna MiniPods (Pallier). Clients: 2 Squeezebox 3 Seineseeker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
Check the back of your units: they may have switchable power supplies (50/60Hz; 120/240V) and all you need do is replace the power cord if it's detachable or use an adapter. Contact the companies. Maybe you can ship the units in and they will refit them for US power requirements and ship them right to your US address. Alternatively, you can probably get some sort of power adapter to convert US mains to what you need, but that seems ugly. Still may be a good idea if your anticipated stay in the US is short. All that stuff is available to some extent in the US although you may have to search around for it. Good luck. Conrad Johnson France (French Creek Distributor) 5 Rue de Martainville 27120 Le Cormier France Email: conrad-johnson-fra...@wanadoo.fr Tel: +33 2 3226 0185 GT Audio (French Rega Distributor) B.P. 59 95420 MAGNY EN VEXIN France Tel: +33 1302 72777 Fax: +33 1302 72778 E-Mail: cont...@gt-audio.fr Web: www.gt-audio.fr -- Apesbrain Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
Sometimes it's only the connections of the main transformers windings that differs. Contact creek and rega about it. It is not unusual to use two 115v windings that could work either in parallel or series depending on market, not so often in large power amps but not unusual in pre amps cds or tape decks etc and smaller amps. As Apesbrain said this could be connected to a switch on the backside. But sometimes you need to open the amp and possible have a circuit diagram. Sometimes you can change the internal transformer itself (and keep the old ones if you move back ) . Small signal,stuff like CD's and preamps can fed trough 110/230 transformers . But I would no do that for a power amp , the needed transformer will be expensive and bulky ( and uggly ). If you are really lucky you can have switch mode PSU's meaning that you only have to change the cables. My DVD and preamp have 100-240V 50-60Hz PSU's. -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter
cmarin;473482 Wrote: For what it's worth, I find the Transporter to be an excellent server and use it to send its digital output to an outboard dac. My own model is a modwright transporter with a wonderful tube/analog output section. If it could handle 24/192 files, IMHO it would be an excellent alternative to other high resolution music server solutions that are being proposed. That is all. Please don't take offence, I'm not trying to trip you up, but you do know that by using the digital out on the Transporter, you are bypassing all the cool stuff that the Modwright is there to do, right? FWIW, I'll hopefully be going down the Modwright path myself shortly. And I think 24/192 would be a nice to have future development. -- browellm Transporter Kondo M7 Art Audio Quintet, Border Patrol PS Living Voice IBX/R2 browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
Thanks. I think the Rega will work, it says 110/240 on the back, but until I try it. I contacted Creek and they said I would need to replace the PSU, which is a bit much for 17 year old amp. I'll keep it in case we ever came home. I was really asking what are the good audiophile amps you can get easily in the US. I can't find Mission in the US at all for example, but I have found Creek. There must be some US manufacturers of quality stuff! -- Seineseeker SlimServer: 6.3.1 + AlienBBC. Amp: Rega Mira (Salon) / Creek 4040 (Pallier). Speakers: JMLAB Chorus (Salon) / Scandyna MiniPods (Pallier). Clients: 2 Squeezebox 3 Seineseeker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
Seineseeker wrote: I was really asking what are the good audiophile amps you can get easily in the US. I can't find Mission in the US at all for example, but I have found Creek. There must be some US manufacturers of quality stuff! Classe (really canadian) and Bryson are easy to find in high end shops. Conrad Johnson is made just a mile from where I live, in suburban Washington DC. Manley Labs is out in the desert east of Los Angelos. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter version question
nojstev...@mac.com;474402 Wrote: Hello, I am about to buy a Transporter. Has there been any changes in the specification of these over the years that I need to ensure it is a specific version? or has the spec stayed the same all the time? Is there any difference between the Logitech branded one and the Slim one? Jon no - yes - no -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70008 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter version question
nojstev...@mac.com;474402 Wrote: Hello, I am about to buy a Transporter. Has there been any changes in the specification of these over the years that I need to ensure it is a specific version? or has the spec stayed the same all the time? Is there any difference between the Logitech branded one and the Slim one? Jon I just bought another brand new Transporter. The unit says it is manufactured in Mountain View, California and is Logitech logo'd. So I would say that things are the same as they have always been on the inside with just a Logo change on the outside. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70008 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter version question
The only change I can think of is that under the Logitech banner, Transporters are UL (Underwriters Laboratories, a US safety compliance organization) certified. Whether the UL logo affects the holographicity or atmosphericalness of the sound, I must leave to the listeners. :) However, the units are still made here in our 'back room' to Sean's design. Best regards, -- ChrisOwens Christopher Owens QA Manager ch...@slimdevices.com ChrisOwens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70008 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter version question
ChrisOwens;474465 Wrote: Whether the UL logo affects the holographicity or atmosphericalness of the sound, I must leave to the listeners. :) lol, you're in the right forum for this ! :) -- Themis SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70008 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter version question
ChrisOwens;474465 Wrote: The only change I can think of is that under the Logitech banner, Transporters are UL (Underwriters Laboratories, a US safety compliance organization) certified. Whether the UL logo affects the holographicity or atmosphericalness of the sound, I must leave to the listeners. :) However, the units are still made here in our 'back room' to Sean's design. Best regards, Now that you mention it, I did think I heard more sound coming from the New Transporter but I had chalked it up to not being Burned in yet. Being UL listed must make the unit not as afraid to take more current therefore accounting for the extra sound. ;=} . . For those that don't know better, I am only joking. Both my Slim Devices TP and Logitech TP sound the same! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70008 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
There are a ton of high end amps over here to chose from and some very good MidFi stuff also. What are you looking for as in what sound do you like/prefer? Values, Solid State, or Hybrid? Just a few of each: Values/Tubes: Cary, Conrad Johnson, VTL, Audio Research, Manley, McIntosh, Quicksilver Audio, Balance Audio Technology Solid State: Ayre, Bryston, Classe, Krell, Levinson, McIntosh, Roland, Pass Labs, VeraStarr -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
Roland? -- konut konut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter wish list...
tv69;471833 Wrote: Hi Keymaster, I guess a plugin could be created for this functionality. In addition you could also have tag info per track to convey this info so that polarity can be controlled independently and not remain locked down. The reason for this is that not all studios release their music with a polarity of zero. In many cases, some record labels, including audiophile labels release their material at a polarity of 180 degrees. And probably even more cases exist (especially with multi track recordings) where the polarity of all individual tracks is not maintained to be the same, either all tracks at zero polarity or all tracks at 180 degree polarity, and thus switching polarity may not show any improvement on these. This often happens in many cases because many external processors used in studios flip the polarity unknowingly and in the end you may not know where you are at after many levels of equalization, compression, reverb, etc... In addition, mic feeds and mic preamps could also be responsible for flipping polarity. Studio mics are typically use XLR connections and there are two standards for connections. Pin 1 is always ground, and typically pin 2 is positive and pin 3 is negative. However some studios flip pin 2 and 3 around, thus flipping polarity. As for a front panel switch, yes it could be avoided. I probably made that suggestion due to often seeing other audio components with a dedicated polarity switch. If a dedicated button or control is available on a remote that is easy to get to, then a dedicated switch on the Transporter may not be necessary. I don't know if the polarity inversion pre or post D/A would make a difference? I would guess that since all you are doing is inverting the waveform, it may not matter where in the chain it happens. It could happen downstream even in your preamp in the analog domain. Another thing that I would like to see is the format/bitdepth/frequency of the file being played on the front panel display. My mp3 player does this and it is very handy to know what you are listening to at a glance. For example FLAC/16bit/44.1kHz or mp3/192... TV I've got a studio @ home and have worked in a few as well...I get all of that (and I routinely flip phase for a number of reasons), but I wouldn't have thought it to be so prevalent an issue to warrant a phase switch on the TP...mastering engineers, I'm looking at you ;). I started out (and still have) on a Soundtracs FMP desk which is Pin3 hot (and caused me grief until I figured it out). That being said...I was trolling through the main strings.txt file in slimserver and noticed that polarity reversal is listed as an item in there. I haven't managed to find it on the unit itself, but it might very well already be there. Have a look around! I suggested flipping phase in the digital domain only because in the absence of a physical switch, it's the most likely way to pull this off with the unit that you have (plus I would think that any extra switch would be cause for audiophiles to rebel). You're talking to a guy who went and revisited the whole Beatles catalog after discovering phase; I fully respect and appreciate where you're coming from :) Cheers, have fun, and thanks for the debate!! I -- Keymaster Keymaster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30281 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69447 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
It depends on what you are looking for but for my money the class T amps are the best bang for the buck. I have the Winsome Labs Mouse and I'm fixing to biwire\bimap them. I have the maggies MMG's - modded - The T sound is awesome. At 45 WPC its not bad. 90 is better - so I'm going to rewire the maggies to do biwire. Not a big deal since I have already replaced the wires and crossovers. I'm dragging my heals because the sucker sounds so freaking awesome now! It's just a little limited on ultra clean volume (my hearing is probably better off for it!) I'm a rocker so there is that need for volume. One other thing on the T amp thing. Very good for tweakers. At 3-400 bucks a pop you can afford to screw with it (and possibly screw it up). I shorted the mouse out more than a few times but it keep coming back for more. Replaced the jumpers and the caps. I have these huge Mundorf caps sitting on top of it. The sound is freeking perfect! Forget tubes - go with T! -- earwaxer Waxer Transporter Winsome labs mouse (modified) Maggie MMG's (modified) JPS Labs power cords Audioquest Granite speaker wire Silver Bullet interconnect HSU research sub earwaxer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32040 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] US Amplifier advice please
konut;474663 Wrote: Roland? Yes Rowland! Jeff has designed and produced some of the best solid state amps available. When I owned Apogee Acoustic speakers, a pair of Jeff Rowland Design Model 7 mono blocks put an amazing 1200 watts into those speakers. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
