[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
You could always ask these guys: http://www.world-designs.co.uk/forum/index.php -- shane shane's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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highdudgeon;151740 Wrote: Why not? I've seen Avant Gardes driven by a beefy McIntosh. They didn't melt down. It is a waste of power, yes, but it is certainly a more linear amp than the vogueish SETs out there. I've heard the Avante Garde Duo 2.2's on numerous occassions, and the only time I thought they sounded like crap (bright as heck) was when they were driven by a 150wpc solid state amp. Every other time was with either a tube or hybrid amp... -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
Jenks;151820 Wrote: The Japanese have Kiwis? We seem to have confused the world by calling the kiwifruit kiwis when exporting. The Kiwi is of course a flightless bird, that has remarkable similarities to the NZ male human - eats, roots and leaves... eats, roots and leaves? I thought that was a jazz musician :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
opaqueice;151926 Wrote: eats, shoots, and leaves - that was a panda, no? Sigh... :) -- adamslim SB3 and Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
...and do not forget to take the wife along when purchasing speakers , given the size of japanese living rooms, she might object to moving the sofa into the kitchen to make place for the new purchase... -- Darkblue Darkblue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4668 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
The best kind of amp, I think, is the kind of amp that will allow you to buy the best possible speakers within your overall budget. There are differences in amps, to be sure, and they are especially obvious when comparing tube and solid state amps (which says something about amp construction, because ideally made amps should all sound alike). However, differences between speakers are vast. I have had everything from $9 McIntosh MC-501s and a used $450 Carver A-500x paired with superlative Harbeth Monitor 40s and two Quads. The changes in speakers made more of a difference and the differences between amps was shockingly nuanced. In short, take a look at your total budget, think about what you like in music, take your room into consideration, and then pick out some optimal speakers. Buy a less expensive amp. Then, when you have more budget flexibility, by a cooler-looking, longer-living, etc., amplifier. (I have nothing against buying something because you like the way it looks...so long as you're not totally throwing your money away.) Oh, and I would say this: maybe stay away from tube amps. They don't have the same bass response and high resolution as well-made solid state amps. I'm not dissing them, either -- I own, and love, two tube amps. However, the Transporter is an extremely high definition device...so you might as well let that come through. You can always grab a tube amp (a vintage Mc is great) for a second piece down the road. I like having tube gear around. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
That's a solid piece and you can probably get a good deal on a used or demo model. gobikey;151516 Wrote: I like the looks and sound of this by my silver transporter. http://www.stereophile.com/integratedamps/205krell -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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highdudgeon;151495 Wrote: Oh, and I would say this: maybe stay away from tube amps. They don't have the same bass response and high resolution as well-made solid state amps. Outrageous flamebait :D Listen for yourself is all. Krell stuff is highly respected, but the last Krell I heard sounded laughably bland to my ears. If I owned it, I'd never play music. But that's my ears - highdudgeon's are undoubtedly different (although his choice in speakers is better ;) ), and yours will be too. It's like women. Look around, have fun, and buy the one you fall in love with. Rest assured it will be more expensive than you intended :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 and Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
adamslim;151574 Wrote: Listen for yourself is all. Krell stuff is highly respected, but the last Krell I heard sounded laughably bland to my ears. Give me a tube amp any day of the week! ;-) -- JackOfAll JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
teq;151218 Wrote: What kind of speakers - to be honest, I don't know. What different types are there? (ok, I can tell that I am going to embarrass every one now...) Some years ago, I had horn-type (folded horn - I have no idea what the correct term in English is) speakers which have an incredible bass-range, but are very large. The last speakers I had were rather small ones combined with a subwoofer. My wife would prefer something elegant (she has seen some cool BO boxes in a store) and not to large... On the size of the room, it would be about 40 square meters (about 120 square feet? I am never sure about American measurements...) Cheers, teq More like 400 square feet! (3x3 = 9) A fairly large room. Good looking speakers include semi-transparent ones, such as Martin Logan electrostats. Should be good in a large room as well, provided that they are allowed to stand clear of the wall -about a meter into the room.) -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
adamslim;151574 Wrote: Outrageous flamebait :D Listen for yourself is all. Krell stuff is highly respected, but the last Krell I heard sounded laughably bland to my ears. If I owned it, I'd never play music. But that's my ears - highdudgeon's are undoubtedly different (although his choice in speakers is better ;) ), and yours will be too. It's like women. Look around, have fun, and buy the one you fall in love with. Rest assured it will be more expensive than you intended :) Adam More expensive than women? Have you ever been married :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Me too, really. I have McIntosh solid state, which is superb, and Bryston is in the same category. I'd take either over Krell. On the other side of the spectrum, I've had Nuforce 9.02s in regular use lately and think they are great. However, I keep an audiomat arpege reference and McIntosh 275s on call. They are very different from each other and from the more linear and transparent solid state stuff. But, man, can they sing -- gorgeous midrange. When I want precision, and frankly for most of my listening, I stick to solid state. But, dim the lights, female jazz vocals, perhaps, and tubes can breathe life into the system. Also, as the other poster said, it really depends on your speaker. One thing to keep in mind -- and Krell is notorious here -- you need a lot less power than you think you do. It's instrutive to watch the needles on a Mc stay below 10w. Plinius is another great choice -- I'd go Plinius over Krell. The 9200 is a helluva piece. Pricey, though. JackOfAll;151597 Wrote: Give me a tube amp any day of the week! ;-) -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
adamslim;151574 Wrote: Outrageous flamebait :D Listen for yourself is all. Krell stuff is highly respected, but the last Krell I heard sounded laughably bland to my ears. If I owned it, I'd never play music. But that's my ears - highdudgeon's are undoubtedly different (although his choice in speakers is better ;) ), and yours will be too. It's like women. Look around, have fun, and buy the one you fall in love with. Rest assured it will be more expensive than you intended :) Adam I wouldn't compare Krell's KAV line with the FPBs or their other class A (operating mode, not rating) amps. BTW, my FPB200 sounded a bit dull until I lifted the lid and did a little internal housekeeping. After that it blew away my Bryston 7B ST, which I sold on. -- P Floding P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
Check out the latest Absolute Sound. They do a comparison of class D amps. Nu-Force, Rowland and a # of others. Very interesting. If you like the class D sound ,you might want to audition some of these. Some people do think class D amps sound different just as tubes sound different, but I don't know, haven't tried comparing. I really did like the Rowland integrated, though. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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That article is pretty odd -- I think most of the reviewers are being overly biased. Chris Maartins really likes the Nuforce...and TAS did give it a Golden Ear award. I think it is a solid performer and pretty much indistinguishable from other good solid state amps. Bass is extremely good, highs are perfectly linear (I know; I measure this stuff), music has lots of life and sounds accurate. Besides, they're small, they run cool, and they're cute. The TP with a pair of Nuforces looks great and sounds great. YMMV. Some people can't abide the technology. tomjtx;151636 Wrote: Check out the latest Absolute Sound. They do a comparison of class D amps. Nu-Force, Rowland and a # of others. Very interesting. If you like the class D sound ,you might want to audition some of these. Some people do think class D amps sound different just as tubes sound different, but I don't know, haven't tried comparing. I really did like the Rowland integrated, though. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
highdudgeon;151662 Wrote: That article is pretty odd -- I think most of the reviewers are being overly biased. Chris Maartins really likes the Nuforce...and TAS did give it a Golden Ear award. I think it is a solid performer and pretty much indistinguishable from other good solid state amps. Bass is extremely good, highs are perfectly linear (I know; I measure this stuff), music has lots of life and sounds accurate. Besides, they're small, they run cool, and they're cute. The TP with a pair of Nuforces looks great and sounds great. YMMV. Some people can't abide the technology. I agree their discussions sound vey biased at at times contradict their reviews. For my ears, the Rowland was very musical and I heard things more clearly than before, rythmic articulation was especially impressive. I would love to hear the nuforce..hey, HD, xmas is coming up. are ya feeling like Santa? :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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JackOfAll;151597 Wrote: Give me a tube amp any day of the week! ;-) It's purely a subjective (i.e. personal) choice - nothing to do with ANY kind of science thank goodness. If you like bananas eat bananas. If you don't ..don't. Tube amps can sound great as can SS ones. Life just ain't that simple. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
highdudgeon;151495 Wrote: The best kind of amp, I think, is the kind of amp that will allow you to buy the best possible speakers within your overall budget. There are differences in amps, to be sure, and they are especially obvious when comparing tube and solid state amps (which says something about amp construction, because ideally made amps should all sound alike). However, differences between speakers are vast. I have had everything from $9 McIntosh MC-501s and a used $450 Carver A-500x paired with superlative Harbeth Monitor 40s and two Quads. The changes in speakers made more of a difference and the differences between amps was shockingly nuanced. In short, take a look at your total budget, think about what you like in music, take your room into consideration, and then pick out some optimal speakers. Buy a less expensive amp. Then, when you have more budget flexibility, by a cooler-looking, longer-living, etc., amplifier. (I have nothing against buying something because you like the way it looks...so long as you're not totally throwing your money away.) Oh, and I would say this: maybe stay away from tube amps. They don't have the same bass response and high resolution as well-made solid state amps. I'm not dissing them, either -- I own, and love, two tube amps. However, the Transporter is an extremely high definition device...so you might as well let that come through. You can always grab a tube amp (a vintage Mc is great) for a second piece down the road. I like having tube gear around. If you end up with high-efficiency speakers (eg. horns, like he owned before), then tubes might be the ideal amplifier choice for him...I know I certainly wouldn't run a pair of 100+db sensitive speakers with a high-powered solid state or Class D amp! -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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On one level I don't totally agree with you Highdudgeon. Yes the differences between speakers is vast, in terms of tonal flavour, extension, dynamics, etc. But I have heard very few speakers that cannot be made to sound musical. I cannot so easily say that of amps. In blind tests different speakers will be obvious and different amps will be hard to pick, yes. But over a period of a week, what can sound like a small initial change between two amps can amount to a lot in terms of whether I am enjoying the music. So my point is I think getting the right speaker for your room is really hard and really important, but it doesn't necessarily require a lot of money. Sadly getting a musically fine amp can cost a lot of money. My sense is I must be able to adjust to the sound of speakers more easily than to the sound of amps, even though the latter appear to be more accurate by any conventional measurements. -- Jenks Jenks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3413 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
Jenks;151741 Wrote: On one level I don't totally agree with you Highdudgeon. Yes the differences between speakers is vast, in terms of tonal flavour, extension, dynamics, etc. But I have heard very few speakers that cannot be made to sound musical. I cannot so easily say that of amps. In blind tests different speakers will be obvious and different amps will be hard to pick, yes. But over a period of a week, what can sound like a small initial change between two amps can amount to a lot in terms of whether I am enjoying the music. So my point is I think getting the right speaker for your room is really hard and really important, but it doesn't necessarily require a lot of money. Sadly getting a musically fine amp can cost a lot of money. My sense is I must be able to adjust to the sound of speakers more easily than to the sound of amps, even though the latter appear to be more accurate by any conventional measurements. Jenks, my impression is that you would be in the minority with that view(not that that means anything) so I am curious if you know anyone who shares your opinion? Or. is it because your British and drive on the wrong side of the road :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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A kiwi and drive on the wrong side of the world. -- Jenks Jenks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3413 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
Jenks;151747 Wrote: A kiwi and drive on the wrong side of the world. I'm sorry, I don't get that, where are you from. Sorry to be so dense (I'll blame it on the flu. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Yes, I live in New Zealand (or middle earth to some), sorry about being so cryptic when you are ridden with the flu. -- Jenks Jenks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3413 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
Actually you don't want to use balanced connections if you don't use a pre amp. The attenuation jumpers inside the TP affect the unbalanced connectors only. You might want to consider the Jeff Rowland integrated amplifier. It matches well visually and even has a cool knob :-) It also sounds great. You can also by pass it's built in pre amp if you want Good luck on your purchase -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
If you're in Japan, you're in an audio gear nirvana...! The most important decision in choosing an amp is to know what kind of speakers the amp will be driving. Depending on the sensitivity and other characteristics of the speakers, you would need to find an amp that is designed to work well with those speakers. Once you narrow it down to that, then you can start thinking about how it matches with the Transporter... So...what kind of speakers are you going to be using? Also, how big is the room? -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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PhilNYC;151210 Wrote: If you're in Japan, you're in an audio gear nirvana...! The most important decision in choosing an amp is to know what kind of speakers the amp will be driving. Depending on the sensitivity and other characteristics of the speakers, you would need to find an amp that is designed to work well with those speakers. Once you narrow it down to that, then you can start thinking about how it matches with the Transporter... So...what kind of speakers are you going to be using? Also, how big is the room? What kind of speakers - to be honest, I don't know. What different types are there? (ok, I can tell that I am going to embarrass every one now...) Some years ago, I had horn-type (folded horn - I have no idea what the correct term in English is) speakers which have an incredible bass-range, but are very large. The last speakers I had were rather small ones combined with a subwoofer. My wife would prefer something elegant (she has seen some cool BO boxes in a store) and not to large... On the size of the room, it would be about 40 square meters (about 120 square feet? I am never sure about American measurements...) Cheers, teq -- teq teq's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8266 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
teq;151218 Wrote: What kind of speakers - to be honest, I don't know. What different types are there? (ok, I can tell that I am going to embarrass every one now...) Some years ago, I had horn-type (folded horn - I have no idea what the correct term in English is) speakers which have an incredible bass-range, but are very large. The last speakers I had were rather small ones combined with a subwoofer. My wife would prefer something elegant (she has seen some cool BO boxes in a store) and not to large... On the size of the room, it would be about 40 square meters (about 120 square feet? I am never sure about American measurements...) My advice: Get to a good dealer and listen to some stuff. Don't stop listening until you find a sound that you really love. Listen a little, but not much, outside your price range - have something to aspire to. Never buy on the spot. Always try more than one dealer if you're starting off. Don't buy BO. It looks great, is a joy to operate but the sound is pants. Buying BO in Japan would be a tad eccentric :) 40 square meters is about 400 square feet, for the Americans. Don't get too big a speaker - maybe over 8 inches for the woofer would be overkill, but that's a very broad brush approach. Final bit of advice: listen to valve kit. My wife loves the look of my system, which has allowed me licence to spend more than if I were buying black boxes... In Japan, you're well served with such products. Adam -- adamslim SB3 and Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Suggested amplifier for Transporter?
Now that you have a Transporter, pick your speakers next. Then, you'll know what you need for an amp. Just for reference, the Parasound Halo line has balanced inputs and individual gain adjustment per channel. This makes using it without a preamp simple. -Ben -- Ben Diss Ben Diss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29239 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
