[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
I purchased a 5V 1A linear power supply to evaluate the difference between stock and upgraded ps on my SB3. I popped open the stock ps and it seems to be quite well built. The aftermarket ps has a less involved circuitry but a considerably larger transformer. I am very familiar with the performance of my SB3 and in my system the internal dac of the SB3 is superior to the dac in my receiver. I also use the internal dac on my cd player for my comparison as it performs better as well. The driving force behind the upgrade was a definite lack of detail and depth on the SB3 playing Apple Lossless Compression music compared to my cd player. The SB3's performance has improved to the point that the difference is far less apparent. Detail and depth are improved and most of the difference in the presence is due to the output level of the SB3 being down slightly. I am eager to try an outboard dac to see if I can exploit the SB3's performance even more. System cd- Denon dvd-2800 mkII rcvr- Pioneer Elite vsx-53tx (as preamp) amp- (2)Hafler 220 spk- Vandy 2c -- boxercup boxercup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9368 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
boxercup;166630 Wrote: I purchased a 5V 1A linear power supply to evaluate the difference between stock and upgraded ps on my SB3...most of the difference in the presence is due to the output level of the SB3 being down slightly... At 1A, do you think that may be a bit low for the SB? Is it getting really hot when in use? Also, I believe you saying, that the new PS has caused the output of your SB to be less loud than with the stock PS. If so, I wonder if this implies you might be overtaxing your new PS. I wonder if doing so, could ever produce distortion (?) -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
I don't know how many of you folks are aware of it, but not all linear regulators are created equal. An ideal regulated power supply should look to the load like an ideal voltage source. That means it should supply any amount of current required to maintain the constant voltage, regardless of what the load is doing or how fast it is doing it. The impedance of the supply should look like 0 Ohms over an infinite bandwidth. In the real world, the impedance should be very low over at least the audio bandwidth. If you really want to know if a linear supply matters, build one with a Jung super regulator. It is about as close to ideal as you're going to get. Check google for the circuit. I believe the transporter uses Jung regulators to power the audio circuits. I_F -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
tyler_durden;164500 Wrote: The cable length matters. Wire is inductance and resistance... As with speaker cables and interconnects, however, the 2 or 3 feet used to connect to your SB3 won't have any practical effect. Thanks for the clarification. I would prefer to have the regs in the same box as the load, but of course that means reboxing. The standard recommendation seems to be keep the cable really short, but maybe that's for noise rather than impedance. I don't expect it to turn my Sb3 into a Transporter, the on-board implementation in Transporter is sure to be far quieter (in fact I think Sean may have measured an Sb3 with off-board superregs but I don't remember the results). It does seem like the most logical first step in modding though. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Skunk;164487 Wrote: Wouldn't you need 3, one externally and one each for 5v and 9v analog, to _really_ see if a linear supply matters? At any rate I wish I had your ability to build from schematics. A single super regulator will get you most of the way there. The DAC's 5V rail is the most important - after that the returns diminish quickly. The 9V op-amp stage is far less sensitive to PS noise than the DAC. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Can anyone please explain why a linear PS should give better sound? What is the technical difference? Is the difference in sound quality significant even for a SqBox 3 with up to 192 bits MP3 files? Thanks. Svein-Helge -- shlea shlea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8990 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
shlea;164196 Wrote: Can anyone please explain why a linear PS should give better sound? What is the technical difference? Is the difference in sound quality significant even for a SqBox 3 with up to 192 bits MP3 files? Thanks. Svein-Helge Opinions vary. It is possible to make excellent switching supplies - at a cost. Linn for example. The most popular theory - that I agree with as well - is that switching supplies create RF interference that can upset other parts of the system (eg amps, DACs) that are not as well engineered as they might be. Certainly the stock unit (UK model) produces lots of RF - you can't use one near an AM radio for example. If the RF gets onto the SPDIF signal it may make the signal harder for an external DAC to handle accurately. For those using the analogue outputs, obviously the quality of the supply is fundmental to the quality of the output stage of the internal DAC. Whether you will hear the difference on 192Kbs MP3's I don't know - I don't have any. I'm sure someone will know... Regards Phil -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Skunk;163990 Wrote: There's not much point in using a 3 amp supply with the Radioshack type N, because it's only rated for 1 amp. Thanks Richidoo, for raising this point in another thread. Got a link for that thread? By all means, use a Switchcraft plug if you have them available at the corner store or want to order one for $10 delivered. That's why I provided the links. ;) The RatShack plug is not exactly beefy, but I would be 'shocked' :) if the relatively short connection would not conduct more than 1A in short bursts without melting. . .which would be the reason for using an oversize 3A PS -- to have current available for brief dynamic peaks without stressing the PS. The rating of the RatShack connector is probably for a steady draw of 1A all day. The SB usually draws 1A, even less with the display turned off, which is how I run it. I would look at the 1A rating of the connector in this steady-state context. I would be extremely surprised to learn that delivering bursts of, say, 2A is a problem with this connector. Squeezebox Power Requirements http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/viewtopic.php?p=219713highlight=#219713 -- ddden ddden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
aybee;164252 Wrote: Yup 'my' CPC units are both Stontronics, both ran hot and the first one (which lasted the longest don't forget) gave off a smell at first. Having read that old thread I may break one open just to see what is inside. Alan Alan - v interesting - if you do break one open I'd love to know what is (or isn't!) in there... mine is a model AD-0501500RBS...I've just checked and its not hot - slightly warm you can hold it in your hand with no discomfort - I'd say it's about 25 degrees C. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
...and I've just smelt it (having read your post again). It seems OK. I'm guessing there's not much more than a x-former, caps, a reg, diodes and a one-shot thermal fuse in there... According to the manufacturers, these things are designed to be used in schools and similar places - so you'd expect them to be OK for what they are - ie cheap!. -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
shlea;164196 Wrote: Can anyone please explain why a linear PS should give better sound? Svein-Helge Some people think they hear a difference when using a linear regulated supply. Others, such as myself, perceive no difference. The audio circuits inside the SB3 are powered from a DC-DC converter inside the SB3. A DC-DC converter is a type of switching power supply. Even if you use a linear supply external to the SB3, the internal switching supply remains. There have been numerous threads on this subject, and Slim Devices people even made a bunch of measurements that actually looked microscopically better with the stock switching supply. In short, if you WANT to hear a difference, you probably will, and if you don't really care, you probably won't. If you're listening to mp3 files, you probably don't care enough to hear a difference anyway. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
ddden;164222 Wrote: Got a link for that thread? No, but a search for 'power supply' should do the trick. The RatShack plug is not exactly beefy, but I would be 'shocked' :) if the relatively short connection would not conduct more than 1A in short bursts without melting. . .which would be the reason for using an oversize 3A PS -- to have current available for brief dynamic peaks without stressing the PS. You are probably right. Not trying to change the discussion but IMHO, if you really want tight regulation you should use the provided S+ and S- terminals, and 4 wires will be pretty hard to get onto the type 'n'. The attached photo does a pretty good job of making this clear. On the left is the type 'n'. The photo doesn't do a very good job of showing how truly flimsy the center pin connector is, and it's even on there crooked. In the middle is a 'Philmore' 5.5x2.5ID which was a dollar fifty, as well as the switchcraft on the right which was seventy five cents (local surplus). New switchcrafts are actually less than five dollars, and well worth the hassle of ordering/waiting- again IMHO. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Thanks for the pic. :) Yes, the RatShack connector is a flimsy POS. I believe those were my exact words as I struggled to attach the wires to it without breaking the tabs. The Switchcraft(part no. 760?)is less than $5. . .$3.08, but Digikey has a $5 handling fee on orders less than $25, so you're probably looking at $10 with shipping. You could put together a $25 order to save the $5 handling fee and distribute the shipping cost among several items, but that's a different project. The RatShack was there. I bought it. It works. The next time I have a large order of parts, I will get a Switchcraft connector too. Are the S+ and S- terminals a feature of the specific PS you are using? -- ddden ddden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html Power input * 5.0V DC, regulated * Center positive, sleeve ground * Connector: 2.5mm ID, 5.5mm OD, 11mm long * Min supply rating: 1000mA Switchcraft makes some DC plugs. http://www.switchcraft.com/products/jack-146.html http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T063/0337.pdf but I used one of these: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102488cp Yes, the linear supply does make a difference, IME. -- ddden ddden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Skunk;163194 Wrote: I am aware of no such beast. The cheapest plug/play would be the modded elpac by Bolder, and I believe one of the mods is change the DC connector, so the stock elpac is out. You sound like you want to go about this by the book when stating your default position is there is no difference, but how will you prove otherwise? Sean has done some measurements, and IIRC the SB3 measured worse with the linear supply. Hate to disagree but this one is PP! (and it sounds great too!) http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search2/browse.jsp;jsessionid=CUEQOXQTGV4IZQFIAEXENZQ;jsessionid=CUEQOXQTGV4IZQFIAEXENZQ?Ntt=PW00187Ntk=gensearch_003N=411+59Nty=1 -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Sorry - I keep forgetting about that! -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
jan van mourik;163946 Wrote: That's cool, except it's quite a ways to ship it to the US... Darn... jan Though it's less hassle than learning to solder, risking house fire, or paying $175 for a tricked out wall wart :) Good link Phil (although it went to CPC main page..) There's not much point in using a 3 amp supply with the Radioshack type N, because it's only rated for 1 amp. Thanks Richidoo, for raising this point in another thread. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Sorry I messed up the link... http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/searchPage2.jsp?Ntt=PW00187Nty=1N=411Ntk=gensearch -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
I jumped the gun on this thinking it was wm series, will this suppy work? Noob! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150062554407rd=1rd=1 -- Nick77 Nick77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
You're looking for 5v at 1.5A. It needs to be 5V (no more or less) and at least 1.5A (higher is OK as the SB will only draw what it needs!) -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Phil Leigh;164001 Wrote: Sorry I messed up the link... http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/searchPage2.jsp?Ntt=PW00187Nty=1N=411Ntk=gensearch I'm assuming this one would not have a standard U.S. plug and expect 110V, yes? -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
jeffmeh;164034 Wrote: I'm assuming this one would not have a standard U.S. plug and expect 110V, yes? Er - yes. I'd have thought you could find an equivalent in the US with US fittings/voltage. The mains plug of course is easily changed - but really this is a UK / European solution 220-240V - apologies! -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Phil Leigh;164036 Wrote: Er - yes. I'd have thought you could find an equivalent in the US with US fittings/voltage. The mains plug of course is easily changed - but really this is a UK / European solution 220-240V - apologies! One would think so, but finding a suitable, reasonably priced, plug-n-play, US model appears to be quite a challenge. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Nick77;164018 Wrote: I jumped the gun on this thinking it was wm series, will this suppy work? Noob! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=005sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AITviewitem=item=150062554407rd=1rd=1 No. Two problems. First, the voltage is too high. The SB wants 5V, not 7.5. Second, that's a switching supply. You already have one of those and that is what the whole linear vs. switching power supply thing is about. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Phil Leigh;164001 Wrote: Sorry I messed up the link... http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/searchPage2.jsp?Ntt=PW00187Nty=1N=411Ntk=gensearch Phil, and anyone in the Uk considering this item should note my experience perhaps: I purchased two of these and while they did work out of the box both have subsequently died, the first lasted about six months and the next one only about three months. Alan -- aybee aybee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=97 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Well...you must have been unlucky because mine's been working for about 12 months now with no problems... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
I remembered a thread about power supplies failing, and I think the CPC unit may be the infamous specimen. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26937 -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Skunk;164172 Wrote: I remembered a thread about power supplies failing, and I think the CPC unit may be the infamous specimen. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26937 Skunk, I'm not sure if they are the same. My CPC unit is made by a local(ish) firm called Stontronics. It doesn't run hot as described in the other thread. Maybe someone else who has one of these could confirm? Phil -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
I agree completely with your statements, Greg. Which is why I am trying to locate a source for an inexpensive, linear, plug-and-play power supply. I will approach the comparison between linear vs. stock with an open mind but I do feel that the default position has to be that there is no difference. This can, of course, be proven wrong, hence the need to try it out. El Duderino/OtoDoc -- El Duderino El Duderino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
El Duderino;163190 Wrote: Which is why I am trying to locate a source for an inexpensive, linear, plug-and-play power supply. I am aware of no such beast. The cheapest plug/play would be the modded elpac by Bolder, and I believe one of the mods is change the DC connector, so the stock elpac is out. You sound like you want to go about this by the book when stating your default position is there is no difference, but how will you prove otherwise? Sean has done some measurements, and IIRC the SB3 measured worse with the linear supply. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
When changing to a linear psu did any one notice a slightly softer / maybe not so much bite in the treble department ? I know I need to have a bash myself, but just wondering. -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Tyler, That is a terrific post especially since you don't think these PS's make a difference. It is very interesting how cheap they are. I got my Elpac for 17.00 when everyone else was paying 40.00 Why? The electronics store I bought from didn't yet know about the Audiofool demand for the Elpac :-) Tom -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
A quick question. Are the 5 pin DIN connectors plug-and-play compatible with the Squeezebox? I am referring to the power supply referenced in Tyler's second link. I have an aversion to any soldering/fiddling that may be necessary. Thanks in advance. El Duderino/OtoDoc -- El Duderino El Duderino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
El Duderino;163137 Wrote: A quick question. Are the 5 pin DIN connectors plug-and-play compatible with the Squeezebox? I am referring to the power supply referenced in Tyler's second link. I have an aversion to any soldering/fiddling that may be necessary. Thanks in advance. No. A 5-pin DIN connector looks like this: http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/full/24516i0.jpg But the Squeezebox's power plug looks like this: http://www.hardware-one.com/reviews/nexland_pro800turbo/power_adapter_110V.jpg You would have to solder. It would be easy, but there's no way around it. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Well.. there is crimping, which isn't soldering- but you'd need a multimeter to check polarity, which is fiddling. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
Thanks for the rapid replies. I would like to give a linear power supply a try at some point but I am not entirely convinced by the arguments put forth in support of the Bolder modded Elpac. That is not to say that no difference exists... Ideally, I'd like to test out any potential improvement for a low-cost price. If there is any improvement, I would then consider purchasing pricier options. So, with that in mind, any plug and play, inexpensive, linear power supplies readily available these days? El Duderino/OtoDoc -- El Duderino El Duderino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8171 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: brand new 5V 6A linear power supply source
El Duderino;163144 Wrote: Thanks for the rapid replies. I would like to give a linear power supply a try at some point but I am not entirely convinced by the arguments put forth in support of the Bolder modded Elpac. That is not to say that no difference exists... Ideally, I'd like to test out any potential improvement for a low-cost price. If there is any improvement, I would then consider purchasing pricier options. So, with that in mind, any plug and play, inexpensive, linear power supplies readily available these days? El Duderino/OtoDoc I believe there is a substantial difference between the standard PSU and other alternatives for a SB3, at least on my system. I've tried linear supplies, batteries and a computer PSU. I wouldn't dismiss any particular topology because one example wasn't good. For example, my old $5 XT computer PSU sounds very good, as good or better than other options I have tried, but it does introduce hum and other very unusual background noises. Different regulators also seem to make a difference. Forget about argumnets, you need to try for yourself to see if you can hear a difference. BTW: I'm using my Transporter as a benchmark. regards Greg -- Greg Erskine Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30703 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
