Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

[Shirley Allegre]

Hi Rick:   Which one of Joao & Maria's kids do you descend from?
I descend from 842 Braz da Costa, BAPT 2 Feb 1676, in Maia, Sao Miguel, 
Azores.* see below

Shirley

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Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


Hi Shirley,

If that is the case then our common ancestor would be Joao da Costa
Loureiro and Maria Vultoa.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, New Hampshire, USA
Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores


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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Allegre
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

I will check on this this coming Wednesday.  Can I assume that all of
these
births were in DES- Maia?

I have Joseph da Costa Carneiro & Maria Vultoa married 3 Feb 1721, in
Maia.
Maria Vultoa is the daughter of
(Manoel Correa Marvao from Maia & Maria da Costa Bultoa, BAPT 10 June
1674, Maia)
Maria da Costa Bultoa is the daughter of my:
(1684 Joao da Costa Loureiro X my 1685 Maria Vultoa.)

Shirley in CA


- Original Message - 
From: "JR" 

To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


These are my notes:

Maia bap- Bras, bap- Feb 2, 1676, filho de Joao da Costa and Ma 
**  see above

Vultoa, pad- Gaspar da Costa Carvalho and Ma de SantiAgo filha de Fco
Txra.

Maia bap- Ma (Maria), born- Aug 9, 1723, bap- Aug 15, filha de Joseph
da Costa Carneyro and Maria Vultoa nats Maya, Pad- Bras da Costa e sua
filha Cna de Ptel res lugar de Achada Grande. (this is to prove that
Catarina is filha of said Bras da Costa.)

On Jul 15, 6:57 pm,  wrote:

Hi All

I am looking at a record from Divino Espirito Santo in Maia and it is
the baptism of Braz. I believe this is my 5th great grandfather. I 
*Braz & Margarida de Oliveira Furtada


 are my 6th grgrandparents.

have

most all of it but would like another set of eyes to verify what I

see.


Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtados/de Sousas

[Linda Norton]

Do you have any information from the Azores on your line which might help?
They could have changed Simas to Simmiss.
 
Linda

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Kaylene Simmiss
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:59 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtados/de Sousas


Linda
 
Just reading the information in regards to the ancestral lines connected
with Simas family during the early 1700.  I am just wondering if there is a
connection as my name is Simmiss, family originated from the Azores.  Do you
have any information that this may be a connection as I have come to a stand
still with my research.
 
regards
Kaylene Simmiss

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From: Linda   Norton 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Cc: 'George Pacheco'   
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:07 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtados/de Sousas


This is from John:

The information from the index gives us a Manoel Furtado de Sousa born about
1650. He seems to be the oldest documented one till now, an ancestral of all
these Furtados de Sousa around Ponta Garca and Achada in early 1700
connected with Simas and Resende families. That Margarida de Resende, dtr of
Manuel Furtado de Sousa and Isabel de Simas, married to Manuel Pacheco do
Amaral in 1749 in Achada, must be a granddaughter of that old Manuel Furtado
de Sousa from 1605 and his wife Maria de Resende. Following Frutuoso we can
find 8 grandsons, 6 granddaughters, 2 grandgrandsons and I
grandgranddaughter of Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa around Vila Franca in
1580.

 
So George, we are connected like Manoel, Hermano, Rick, by our Furtado's
being from Vila Franca and Achada which brought down my Furtado's/Pimentels
as Rick's which in turn stemmed from the Travossos/Cabral/Velho lines on one
side. I understand there are the de Simas, Resendes, Mederios, Rebelo,
Botelho and Rego lines as well which I see we are all intertwined by those
lines, too. Am I correct on that?
 
So we are all just one big happy family!
 
Linda Borges Furtado Norton
 




 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Matias - Terceira and Alvernaz Silveira - Pico

["E" Sharp]

Anyone related to these 2 people?

Manuel Alvernaz Silveira b. abt. 1911- Sao Roque, Pico

Jose da Silva Matias b. abt. 1910 - Conceicao, Terceira d. Ribeirinha,
Terceira 1977

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry has Australia birth, marriage, death

[Cheri Mello]

 Dick Eastman posted this today.  We have some people whose Azorean
ancestors went to Australia:

http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/07/ancestrycomau-adds-australia-birth-marriage-and-death-index.html#more

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtados/de Sousas

[Kaylene Simmiss]

New Page 1Linda

Just reading the information in regards to the ancestral lines connected with 
Simas family during the early 1700.  I am just wondering if there is a 
connection as my name is Simmiss, family originated from the Azores.  Do you 
have any information that this may be a connection as I have come to a stand 
still with my research.

regards
Kaylene Simmiss
  - Original Message - 
  From: Linda Norton 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: 'George Pacheco' 
  Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 9:07 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Furtados/de Sousas


  This is from John:

  The information from the index gives us a Manoel Furtado de Sousa born about 
1650. He seems to be the oldest documented one till now, an ancestral of all 
these Furtados de Sousa around Ponta Garca and Achada in early 1700 connected 
with Simas and Resende families. That Margarida de Resende, dtr of Manuel 
Furtado de Sousa and Isabel de Simas, married to Manuel Pacheco do Amaral in 
1749 in Achada, must be a granddaughter of that old Manuel Furtado de Sousa 
from 1605 and his wife Maria de Resende. Following Frutuoso we can find 8 
grandsons, 6 granddaughters, 2 grandgrandsons and I grandgranddaughter of 
Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa around Vila Franca in 1580.


  So George, we are connected like Manoel, Hermano, Rick, by our Furtado's 
being from Vila Franca and Achada which brought down my Furtado's/Pimentels as 
Rick's which in turn stemmed from the Travossos/Cabral/Velho lines on one side. 
I understand there are the de Simas, Resendes, Mederios, Rebelo, Botelho and 
Rego lines as well which I see we are all intertwined by those lines, too. Am I 
correct on that?

  So we are all just one big happy family!

  Linda Borges Furtado Norton






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

[Michelle]

Dear Nancy,

How elated you must be. I'm so happy he was receptive and he's going to send 
you pictures too...Fantastic!!!

Regards,
Michelle
  - Original Message - 
  From: nancy jean baptiste 
  To: azores group 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia


  Greetings Group,
   
  Just an update regarding finding Annie's descendants.
   
  When I called Wed. and got the recording I left my name and message that I 
lived in Arkansas and would like to speak to Frank Gracie...(I pronounced it 
GRAHCYhe says GRAYCY)...no other info regarding my reason for calling. He 
didn't call me back so last night I called him again and he was waiting for my 
call. (He'd googled me! Found out I was an artist in Ar.not too scary)
   
  I began by saying that his grandmother, Annie and my grandfather, John were 
siblingshis response was "OHwow!"...and it went very well from there. 
He knew nothing of my families existencehe knew there was some kind of a 
link to the Baptiste name but he didn't know what it was.he and his father 
both use the name Frank S. Gracie..he and his dad never knew for sure what 
the S. stood for! They just used it because of Annie's husband, Frank S. 
senior..he said his father thought it might stand for Silva or Soares and I 
was able to confirm that it is Soares and that his grandfather came from Sao 
Jorge in 1905 as a boarder to Annie's mothers rooming house and got her 
pregnant when she was 16 and married he when she was 17 a few days before Mary, 
the first of their 5 children was born.he had no idea! He also said that 
his father, Frank thought the family name might really be Gracia but they 
weren't sure! ( I think Azoreans prefer "E to A" since my family went from 
Baptista to Baptiste and his from Gracia to Gracie) The family left New 
Bedford for Dartmouth in 1927 and have been Gracie ever since.
   
   He confirmed that Annie's youngest daughter, Dorothy, b. 1930, is still 
alive, married and summering in Nova Scotia but lives in Mass. I'm hoping to 
talk with her. There are female descendants from Annie's 4 daughters so 
hopefully sometime in the future I will be able to have Catarina's MTDNAOne 
of these is a young genealogist and he's putting us in touch!
   
  I asked him if he might have an old photo's of his grandmother, Annie or her 
parentshe said he has a couple of boxes of old stuff in the attic but 
doesn't know if there might be any photos. I hope Dorothy or some of the 
children will have a picture of Caterina, Antonio and Annie and John.just a 
long shot but I so much would love to see them.
   
  The greatest piece of info he had was regarding my grandfather, 
John.since my dad and uncle were estranged from him I have no idea what he 
looked like or where he is interredat one point in our conversation Frank 
said..."Oh, that explains who that is buried in our family plot..his name 
is John Baptiste" Wowhe's going to go to the cemetary and take pictures 
for me and who knows he might even find Antonio.I think Caterina was buried 
at Mt. Carmel instead of St. Johns.not sure.
   
  So he was as pleased to hear from me as I was to find him and we will remain 
in touch via email etc..we were both born in 19496 months apart. I told 
him a bit about Caterina's connection to King Afonso VI and some of her other 
illustrious ancestors and also a bit about Antonio's connection to noble 
families in eons past. He said he'd never had any previous interest in 
genealogy but as he's gotten older he's realized that it's important to know 
where and who you come from for self understanding and that this whet his 
interest. He had no idea which islands his ancestors were from.
   
  We talked for a good hour and could have gone on longer but my voice was 
wearing out!..so again, my sincerest thanks to all of you who have helped 
me so very much..you are my truest Azorean family.
   
  Nancy Jean
   

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  From: tnkra...@roadrunner.com
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  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:33:37 -0700


  I LOVE to hear stuff like this!!! Good luck Nancy ~ hope he is the right 
person and he will be helpful to you!! J



  Tracy



  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
nancy jean baptiste
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:57 PM
  To: azores group
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia



  Oh my gosh..I just saw this and googled as you suggested! I'm amazed to 
think it might be possible to talk with this missing family link. I'll keep you 
posted. "E", you have helped me so much the last few years! Thank you, thank 
you, thank you!
   
  Nancy Jean
   
  > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:52:50 -0700
  > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
  > From: bellema...@gmail.com
  > To: Az

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

[celeste perry]

And, Elaline, we have not yet found a common ancestor!!!  Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Fri, 7/16/10, "E" Sharp  wrote:


From: "E" Sharp 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 5:03 PM



I guess I should make a correction to my post, Cheri put in countless hours 
helping me find my niece's family from 1920 to 1930 in census, directory and 
cemetery records.  So thank you so much, Cheri, for all your help and countless 
hours of research with this family.  
 
And thank you Celeste for your help with my Victor family records and always 
being there for me when I lose faith I will ever find my grandmother's baptism 
record and through my surgery last year.
 
Elaine
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

["E" Sharp]

I guess I should make a correction to my post, Cheri put in countless hours
helping me find my niece's family from 1920 to 1930 in census, directory and
cemetery records.  So thank you so much, Cheri, for all your help and
countless hours of research with this family.

And thank you Celeste for your help with my Victor family records and always
being there for me when I lose faith I will ever find my grandmother's
baptism record and through my surgery last year.

Elaine

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

[celeste perry]

I am so happy for you, Elaine.  I know of no one who has put more time, effort 
and money too into finding family members.  It is about time you receive your 
just dues!  Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Fri, 7/16/10, "E" Sharp  wrote:


From: "E" Sharp 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 11:19 AM


Rosemarie and Nancy,

Speaking of pictures, I have been researching a niece's family from
Illinois via Scotland and England.  Her dad did not know his family at
all as parents were divorced at an early age and there was no contact
with the father's family.  I has taken me a few months, but I found
her family records, made contact with a family member who sent me a
picture of her great-great-great-aunt and just yesterday I heard from
the local genealogy society that they have a picture of her
great-great-grandmother and her great-aunt's family (yes, Celeste, the
ones we cannot find after 1930 who came to California) and numerous
other interesting items and I am anxiously awaiting these goodies.

"E"

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

[rfrancispimentel]

Hi Shirley,

If that is the case then our common ancestor would be Joao da Costa
Loureiro and Maria Vultoa.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, New Hampshire, USA
Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 

-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shirley Allegre
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

I will check on this this coming Wednesday.  Can I assume that all of
these 
births were in DES- Maia?

I have Joseph da Costa Carneiro & Maria Vultoa married 3 Feb 1721, in
Maia.
Maria Vultoa is the daughter of
(Manoel Correa Marvao from Maia & Maria da Costa Bultoa, BAPT 10 June
1674, 
Maia)
Maria da Costa Bultoa is the daughter of my:
(1684 Joao da Costa Loureiro X my 1685 Maria Vultoa.)

Shirley in CA


- Original Message - 
From: "JR" 
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


These are my notes:

Maia bap- Bras, bap- Feb 2, 1676, filho de Joao da Costa and Ma
Vultoa, pad- Gaspar da Costa Carvalho and Ma de SantiAgo filha de Fco
Txra.

Maia bap- Ma (Maria), born- Aug 9, 1723, bap- Aug 15, filha de Joseph
da Costa Carneyro and Maria Vultoa nats Maya, Pad- Bras da Costa e sua
filha Cna de Ptel res lugar de Achada Grande. (this is to prove that
Catarina is filha of said Bras da Costa.)

On Jul 15, 6:57 pm,  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I am looking at a record from Divino Espirito Santo in Maia and it is
> the baptism of Braz. I believe this is my 5th great grandfather. I
have
> most all of it but would like another set of eyes to verify what I
see.
>
> Rick
>
> Richard Francis Pimentel
>
> Epping, New Hampshire, USA
>
> Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
> Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores
>
> Document2.tif
> 366KViewDownload

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

[Shirley Allegre]

That is something that I am going to check on this coming Wednesday.
I will let you know what I find out.
Shirley in CA
- Original Message - 
From: "Linda Norton" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


Shirley,

Where does Bras Costa Loureiro b. 1682 m. Hermina Pimentel connected to your
Joao da Costa Loureiro? Hermina carried Rick's and my Pimentel line down. My
ggrandfather dropped the Pimentel and carried Furtado from his mother which
I thought I always was or am, but now I see I should be a Loureiro or maybe
de Sousa, Rodrigues or really Furtado as I go back further.

I can't believe that we can be carrying the female surnames and not the male
surnames as Americans do. It's amazing to me.

Linda Borges ?Furtado Norton

-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Shirley Allegre
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

I will check on this this coming Wednesday.  Can I assume that all of these
births were in DES- Maia?

I have Joseph da Costa Carneiro & Maria Vultoa married 3 Feb 1721, in Maia.
Maria Vultoa is the daughter of
(Manoel Correa Marvao from Maia & Maria da Costa Bultoa, BAPT 10 June 1674,
Maia)
Maria da Costa Bultoa is the daughter of my:
(1684 Joao da Costa Loureiro X my 1685 Maria Vultoa.)

Shirley in CA


- Original Message -
From: "JR" 
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


These are my notes:

Maia bap- Bras, bap- Feb 2, 1676, filho de Joao da Costa and Ma
Vultoa, pad- Gaspar da Costa Carvalho and Ma de SantiAgo filha de Fco
Txra.

Maia bap- Ma (Maria), born- Aug 9, 1723, bap- Aug 15, filha de Joseph
da Costa Carneyro and Maria Vultoa nats Maya, Pad- Bras da Costa e sua
filha Cna de Ptel res lugar de Achada Grande. (this is to prove that
Catarina is filha of said Bras da Costa.)

On Jul 15, 6:57 pm,  wrote:

Hi All

I am looking at a record from Divino Espirito Santo in Maia and it is
the baptism of Braz. I believe this is my 5th great grandfather. I have
most all of it but would like another set of eyes to verify what I see.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

[Linda Norton]

Shirley,

Where does Bras Costa Loureiro b. 1682 m. Hermina Pimentel connected to your
Joao da Costa Loureiro? Hermina carried Rick's and my Pimentel line down. My
ggrandfather dropped the Pimentel and carried Furtado from his mother which
I thought I always was or am, but now I see I should be a Loureiro or maybe
de Sousa, Rodrigues or really Furtado as I go back further.

I can't believe that we can be carrying the female surnames and not the male
surnames as Americans do. It's amazing to me.

Linda Borges ?Furtado Norton

-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Shirley Allegre
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 2:04 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

I will check on this this coming Wednesday.  Can I assume that all of these
births were in DES- Maia?

I have Joseph da Costa Carneiro & Maria Vultoa married 3 Feb 1721, in Maia.
Maria Vultoa is the daughter of
(Manoel Correa Marvao from Maia & Maria da Costa Bultoa, BAPT 10 June 1674,
Maia)
Maria da Costa Bultoa is the daughter of my:
(1684 Joao da Costa Loureiro X my 1685 Maria Vultoa.)

Shirley in CA


- Original Message -
From: "JR" 
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


These are my notes:

Maia bap- Bras, bap- Feb 2, 1676, filho de Joao da Costa and Ma
Vultoa, pad- Gaspar da Costa Carvalho and Ma de SantiAgo filha de Fco
Txra.

Maia bap- Ma (Maria), born- Aug 9, 1723, bap- Aug 15, filha de Joseph
da Costa Carneyro and Maria Vultoa nats Maya, Pad- Bras da Costa e sua
filha Cna de Ptel res lugar de Achada Grande. (this is to prove that
Catarina is filha of said Bras da Costa.)

On Jul 15, 6:57 pm,  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I am looking at a record from Divino Espirito Santo in Maia and it is
> the baptism of Braz. I believe this is my 5th great grandfather. I have
> most all of it but would like another set of eyes to verify what I see.
>
> Rick
>
> Richard Francis Pimentel
>
> Epping, New Hampshire, USA
>
> Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
> Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores
>
> Document2.tif
> 366KViewDownload

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Furtados/de Sousas

[Linda Norton]

This is from John:

The information from the index gives us a Manoel Furtado de Sousa born about
1650. He seems to be the oldest documented one till now, an ancestral of all
these Furtados de Sousa around Ponta Garca and Achada in early 1700
connected with Simas and Resende families. That Margarida de Resende, dtr of
Manuel Furtado de Sousa and Isabel de Simas, married to Manuel Pacheco do
Amaral in 1749 in Achada, must be a granddaughter of that old Manuel Furtado
de Sousa from 1605 and his wife Maria de Resende. Following Frutuoso we can
find 8 grandsons, 6 granddaughters, 2 grandgrandsons and I
grandgranddaughter of Martim Anes Furtado de Sousa around Vila Franca in
1580.

 
So George, we are connected like Manoel, Hermano, Rick, by our Furtado's
being from Vila Franca and Achada which brought down my Furtado's/Pimentels
as Rick's which in turn stemmed from the Travossos/Cabral/Velho lines on one
side. I understand there are the de Simas, Resendes, Mederios, Rebelo,
Botelho and Rego lines as well which I see we are all intertwined by those
lines, too. Am I correct on that?
 
So we are all just one big happy family!
 
Linda Borges Furtado Norton
 




 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MARQUES from S. Miguel

[Linda Norton]

I found another Marques on my chart.
 
6774.  Cosme Marques  was born in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores. He
died20  on 4 Oct 1614 in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel, Açores. He married21
Isabel Medeiros Fernandes on 7 Nov 1610 in Rosario, Lagoa, São Miguel,
Açores. 

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:31 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MARQUES from S. Miguel



Digo 28 Sep 1699 in NS Anunciacao, Achada Grande

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:34 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MARQUES from S. Miguel

 

Hi Linda

 

 Yes that is right. Their daughter Isabel Resende married Sebastiao Michado
28 Sep 1699 in Estrela.

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Linda Norton
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:11 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MARQUES from S. Miguel

 

Manuel Soares Resende was married to Anna Marques b. abt. 1659 my 20th
grandmother on my father's paternal side. Would that be right Rick?

 

Linda

 

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From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
mances
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 12:51 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MARQUES from S. Miguel

Hi Eliseu,

 

I have Marques from Ribeira Grande and Lagoa.

 

See below.

 

Manoel Cesar Furtado

 

 

 

 

Ahnentafel Chart for Beatriz Nunes [Marques]

 

 
First Generation

 

  1. Beatriz Nunes . Beatriz married Miguel Rodrigues  son of Manuel
Viegas and Maria Rodrigues on 29 Jun 1656 in Matriz-Ribeira Grande. 

 

 

Second Generation

 

  2. Simão Marques  was born in morador Matriz-Ribeira Grande. He died
before 1656. He married Isabel Nunes on 26 Apr 1620 in Matriz-Ribeira
Grande. 

 

  3. Isabel Nunes  was born in moradora Matriz-Ribeira Grande. She died
before 1656. 

 

 

Third Generation

 

  4. Domingos Marques  was born in morador Ribeira Grande. He married
Maria Jorge. 

 

  5. Maria Jorge  was born in moradora Ribeira Grande. 

 

  6. Manuel Nunes  was born in morador Ribeira Grande. He married
Beatriz Travassos. 

 

  7. Beatriz Travassos  was born in moradora Ribeira Grande. She died
before 1612. 

 

 

Fourth Generation

 

14. Fernão Pires do Quental .Fernão married Beatriz Velho. 

 

15. Beatriz Velho .

 

___

 

 

Ahnentafel Chart for Manuel Marques

 


First Generation

  1. Manuel Marques  was born in Lagoa - NS Rosario. Manuel married
Maria da Costa  daughter of Manuel da Costa de Sampaio? and Ana da Costa on
6 Apr 1716 in São Roque. Maria was born in São Roque. 

 

Second Generation

  2. Antonio Pacheco  was born in Lagoa - NS Rosario. He married Barbara
Marques on 31 Mar 1689 in Lagoa - NS Rosario. 

 

  3. Barbara Marques  was born in Lagoa - NS Rosario. 

 

Third Generation

  4. Domingos Roiz  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. He married
Maria Pacheco on 27 Dec 1654 in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

  5. Maria Pacheco  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

  6. Francisco Fragoso  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. He married
Barbara Marques on 12 Jun 1662 in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

  7. Barbara Marques  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

Fourth Generation

  8. Aleixo Roiz (ausente)  was born in Matriz-Ribeira Grande. He
married Isabel Roiz. 

 

  9. Isabel Roiz  was born in Matriz-Ribeira Grande. 

 

10. Roque Alves  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. He married Maria
Pacheco on 29 Apr 1624 in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

11. Maria Pacheco  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

12. Francisco Pereira  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. He married
Ana Fragoso on 

5 Aug 1632 in Lagoa - Matriz. 

 

13. Ana Fragoso  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

14. Baltazar de Morais  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. He married
Maria Marques. 

 

15. Maria Marques  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

 

Fifth Generation

20. Simão Álvares  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. He married
Guiomar Lopes. 

 

21. Guiomar Lopes  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do Rosário. 

 

22. Domingos Gonçalves .Domingos married Maria Pacheco on 27 Sep 1587 in
Lagoa - Matriz. 

 

23. Maria Pacheco  was born in Lagoa - N. S. do 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Festa do Espirito Santo in Artesia, CA July 23 - 25

[John Vasconcelos]

Hi Tracy,
By all means come to the Festa. I will be there too. I will be the
balding old man playing the Bass Trombone in the Artesia band along with
Cheri. Hope to see you there.
John Vasconcelos
Founder of the Flores Geneaolgy and Drinking Society

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Tracy Krause wrote:

>  Hello cheri,
>
> Is this the FESTA you were telling me about in SLC? Is there  a web site
> that tells about this? I will have to share this with my mom!
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Cheri Mello
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:41 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Festa do Espirito Santo in Artesia, CA
> July 23 - 25
>
>
>
> Correction to Fri, July 23rd (it was late and I was tired and left this
> off):
> 7pm is the presentation of the queens (we get to play for that).
> 9pm is Fados (those are singers and it doesn't involve the band).
>
> Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Festa do Espirito Santo in Artesia, CA July 23 - 25

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Tracy,

Yes, this is the one with the sopas on Sunday.

Go here:
http://www.artesiades.org/home/

Click on the red program that has the crowns on it and scroll down.

Let me know if you are coming!

Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Ship Information

[Hughes Roselyn]

Oh no!  Yes, I did mess up the year of birth.  It was actually 1884. Except
for his age everything else his father and brothers are all correct
including their final destination.  I'll go back and look again at the CCA
site.  Thank you so so so very much for taking the time to help.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:26 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> I think this might be them?, but Jose birthdate 1814? think you mean 1894?
>
> SS Germania leaving Angra de Heroismo May 10, 1914, arriving
> Providence RI May 17, 1914.
>
> Jose Coelho Pinheiro, 20, proprietor/laborer, going to Los Banos CA,
> leaving his father Manuel Pinheiro, Altares, Terceira, going to his
> brother Joaquim Pinheiro Lourenco, Los Banos CA, b. Altares, Terceira,
> Maria Lourdes Pinheiro, 20, domestic.
>
> go back to CCA site and start searching from April 1, 1914you can
> also go backwards from May 10.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> "E"
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[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Pacheco MELRINHO - Furnas and Água de Pau

[Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva]

 

Thank you very very much to all who responded to my request!

(Obrigado a todos os que responderam ao meu pedido!)

 

 

Muito Obrigado

(Thank you very much)

 

eliseu

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

["E" Sharp]

Rosemarie and Nancy,

Speaking of pictures, I have been researching a niece's family from
Illinois via Scotland and England.  Her dad did not know his family at
all as parents were divorced at an early age and there was no contact
with the father's family.  I has taken me a few months, but I found
her family records, made contact with a family member who sent me a
picture of her great-great-great-aunt and just yesterday I heard from
the local genealogy society that they have a picture of her
great-great-grandmother and her great-aunt's family (yes, Celeste, the
ones we cannot find after 1930 who came to California) and numerous
other interesting items and I am anxiously awaiting these goodies.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

["E" Sharp]

Nancy Jean,

Another successful story!  I hope we can hear of many more of them
from other listers.  This is what makes me believe, that one day I
will find my grandmother's baptism record.

I have St. John's Cemetery book if you want me to do any lookups or if
any other listmembers wants a lookup.  Please give me names and
possible birth and/or death dates.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Nancy Jean, it just goes to show that your persistence has paid off. Hopefully 
you will see some photos of the "missing" family soon! 

Rosemarie 

  - Original Message - 
  From: nancy jean baptiste 
  To: azores group 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia


  Greetings Group,
   
  Just an update regarding finding Annie's descendants.
   
  When I called Wed. and got the recording I left my name and message that I 
lived in Arkansas and would like to speak to Frank Gracie...(I pronounced it 
GRAHCYhe says GRAYCY)...no other info regarding my reason for calling. He 
didn't call me back so last night I called him again and he was waiting for my 
call. (He'd googled me! Found out I was an artist in Ar.not too scary)
   
  I began by saying that his grandmother, Annie and my grandfather, John were 
siblingshis response was "OHwow!"...and it went very well from there. 
He knew nothing of my families existencehe knew there was some kind of a 
link to the Baptiste name but he didn't know what it was.he and his father 
both use the name Frank S. Gracie..he and his dad never knew for sure what 
the S. stood for! They just used it because of Annie's husband, Frank S. 
senior..he said his father thought it might stand for Silva or Soares and I 
was able to confirm that it is Soares and that his grandfather came from Sao 
Jorge in 1905 as a boarder to Annie's mothers rooming house and got her 
pregnant when she was 16 and married he when she was 17 a few days before Mary, 
the first of their 5 children was born.he had no idea! He also said that 
his father, Frank thought the family name might really be Gracia but they 
weren't sure! ( I think Azoreans prefer "E to A" since my family went from 
Baptista to Baptiste and his from Gracia to Gracie) The family left New 
Bedford for Dartmouth in 1927 and have been Gracie ever since.
   
   He confirmed that Annie's youngest daughter, Dorothy, b. 1930, is still 
alive, married and summering in Nova Scotia but lives in Mass. I'm hoping to 
talk with her. There are female descendants from Annie's 4 daughters so 
hopefully sometime in the future I will be able to have Catarina's MTDNAOne 
of these is a young genealogist and he's putting us in touch!
   
  I asked him if he might have an old photo's of his grandmother, Annie or her 
parentshe said he has a couple of boxes of old stuff in the attic but 
doesn't know if there might be any photos. I hope Dorothy or some of the 
children will have a picture of Caterina, Antonio and Annie and John.just a 
long shot but I so much would love to see them.
   
  The greatest piece of info he had was regarding my grandfather, 
John.since my dad and uncle were estranged from him I have no idea what he 
looked like or where he is interredat one point in our conversation Frank 
said..."Oh, that explains who that is buried in our family plot..his name 
is John Baptiste" Wowhe's going to go to the cemetary and take pictures 
for me and who knows he might even find Antonio.I think Caterina was buried 
at Mt. Carmel instead of St. Johns.not sure.
   
  So he was as pleased to hear from me as I was to find him and we will remain 
in touch via email etc..we were both born in 19496 months apart. I told 
him a bit about Caterina's connection to King Afonso VI and some of her other 
illustrious ancestors and also a bit about Antonio's connection to noble 
families in eons past. He said he'd never had any previous interest in 
genealogy but as he's gotten older he's realized that it's important to know 
where and who you come from for self understanding and that this whet his 
interest. He had no idea which islands his ancestors were from.
   
  We talked for a good hour and could have gone on longer but my voice was 
wearing out!..so again, my sincerest thanks to all of you who have helped 
me so very much..you are my truest Azorean family.
   
  Nancy Jean
   

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  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:33:37 -0700


  I LOVE to hear stuff like this!!! Good luck Nancy ~ hope he is the right 
person and he will be helpful to you!! J



  Tracy



  From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
nancy jean baptiste
  Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:57 PM
  To: azores group
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia



  Oh my gosh..I just saw this and googled as you suggested! I'm amazed to 
think it might be possible to talk with this missing family link. I'll keep you 
posted. "E", you have helped me so much the last few years! Thank you, thank 
you, thank you!
   
  Nancy Jean
   
  > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:52:50 -0700
  > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
  > From: bellema...@gmail.com
  >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

[Shirley Allegre]

I will check on this this coming Wednesday.  Can I assume that all of these 
births were in DES- Maia?


I have Joseph da Costa Carneiro & Maria Vultoa married 3 Feb 1721, in Maia.
Maria Vultoa is the daughter of
(Manoel Correa Marvao from Maia & Maria da Costa Bultoa, BAPT 10 June 1674, 
Maia)

Maria da Costa Bultoa is the daughter of my:
(1684 Joao da Costa Loureiro X my 1685 Maria Vultoa.)

Shirley in CA


- Original Message - 
From: "JR" 

To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


These are my notes:

Maia bap- Bras, bap- Feb 2, 1676, filho de Joao da Costa and Ma
Vultoa, pad- Gaspar da Costa Carvalho and Ma de SantiAgo filha de Fco
Txra.

Maia bap- Ma (Maria), born- Aug 9, 1723, bap- Aug 15, filha de Joseph
da Costa Carneyro and Maria Vultoa nats Maya, Pad- Bras da Costa e sua
filha Cna de Ptel res lugar de Achada Grande. (this is to prove that
Catarina is filha of said Bras da Costa.)

On Jul 15, 6:57 pm,  wrote:

Hi All

I am looking at a record from Divino Espirito Santo in Maia and it is
the baptism of Braz. I believe this is my 5th great grandfather. I have
most all of it but would like another set of eyes to verify what I see.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores

Document2.tif
366KViewDownload


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

[nancy jean baptiste]

Greetings Group,

 

Just an update regarding finding Annie's descendants.

 

When I called Wed. and got the recording I left my name and message that I 
lived in Arkansas and would like to speak to Frank Gracie...(I pronounced it 
GRAHCYhe says GRAYCY)...no other info regarding my reason for calling. He 
didn't call me back so last night I called him again and he was waiting for my 
call. (He'd googled me! Found out I was an artist in Ar.not too scary)

 

I began by saying that his grandmother, Annie and my grandfather, John were 
siblingshis response was "OHwow!"...and it went very well from there. 
He knew nothing of my families existencehe knew there was some kind of a 
link to the Baptiste name but he didn't know what it was.he and his father 
both use the name Frank S. Gracie..he and his dad never knew for sure what 
the S. stood for! They just used it because of Annie's husband, Frank S. 
senior..he said his father thought it might stand for Silva or Soares and I 
was able to confirm that it is Soares and that his grandfather came from Sao 
Jorge in 1905 as a boarder to Annie's mothers rooming house and got her 
pregnant when she was 16 and married he when she was 17 a few days before Mary, 
the first of their 5 children was born.he had no idea! He also said that 
his father, Frank thought the family name might really be Gracia but they 
weren't sure! ( I think Azoreans prefer "E to A" since my family went from 
Baptista to Baptiste and his from Gracia to Gracie) The family left New 
Bedford for Dartmouth in 1927 and have been Gracie ever since.

 

 He confirmed that Annie's youngest daughter, Dorothy, b. 1930, is still alive, 
married and summering in Nova Scotia but lives in Mass. I'm hoping to talk with 
her. There are female descendants from Annie's 4 daughters so hopefully 
sometime in the future I will be able to have Catarina's MTDNAOne of these 
is a young genealogist and he's putting us in touch!

 

I asked him if he might have an old photo's of his grandmother, Annie or her 
parentshe said he has a couple of boxes of old stuff in the attic but 
doesn't know if there might be any photos. I hope Dorothy or some of the 
children will have a picture of Caterina, Antonio and Annie and John.just a 
long shot but I so much would love to see them.

 

The greatest piece of info he had was regarding my grandfather, John.since 
my dad and uncle were estranged from him I have no idea what he looked like or 
where he is interredat one point in our conversation Frank said..."Oh, that 
explains who that is buried in our family plot..his name is John 
Baptiste" Wowhe's going to go to the cemetary and take pictures for me 
and who knows he might even find Antonio.I think Caterina was buried at Mt. 
Carmel instead of St. Johns.not sure.

 

So he was as pleased to hear from me as I was to find him and we will remain in 
touch via email etc..we were both born in 19496 months apart. I told 
him a bit about Caterina's connection to King Afonso VI and some of her other 
illustrious ancestors and also a bit about Antonio's connection to noble 
families in eons past. He said he'd never had any previous interest in 
genealogy but as he's gotten older he's realized that it's important to know 
where and who you come from for self understanding and that this whet his 
interest. He had no idea which islands his ancestors were from.

 

We talked for a good hour and could have gone on longer but my voice was 
wearing out!..so again, my sincerest thanks to all of you who have helped 
me so very much..you are my truest Azorean family.

 

Nancy Jean
 


From: tnkra...@roadrunner.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:33:37 -0700







I LOVE to hear stuff like this!!! Good luck Nancy ~ hope he is the right person 
and he will be helpful to you!! J
 
Tracy
 


From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
nancy jean baptiste
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 3:57 PM
To: azores group
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
 
Oh my gosh..I just saw this and googled as you suggested! I'm amazed to 
think it might be possible to talk with this missing family link. I'll keep you 
posted. "E", you have helped me so much the last few years! Thank you, thank 
you, thank you!
 
Nancy Jean
 
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:52:50 -0700
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia
> From: bellema...@gmail.com
> To: Azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> Nancy Jean,
> 
> Don't know if you got my message I sent to your email address. If you
> google Frank S. Gracie, Dartmouth, you will info for Frank S. 3rd or
> 4th, who apparently is living. I would call/write him and see what he
> has to say about the family. There are also some family obit, etc.
> posted using google. Use www.switchboard.com to find phone # and
> address.
> 
> "E"
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for Ship Information

["E" Sharp]

I think this might be them?, but Jose birthdate 1814? think you mean 1894?

SS Germania leaving Angra de Heroismo May 10, 1914, arriving
Providence RI May 17, 1914.

Jose Coelho Pinheiro, 20, proprietor/laborer, going to Los Banos CA,
leaving his father Manuel Pinheiro, Altares, Terceira, going to his
brother Joaquim Pinheiro Lourenco, Los Banos CA, b. Altares, Terceira,
Maria Lourdes Pinheiro, 20, domestic.

go back to CCA site and start searching from April 1, 1914you can
also go backwards from May 10.

Hope this helps.

"E"

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

[rfrancispimentel]

Thank You Margaret and JR,

 

I wanted to make sure I had it right. Braz was not a common name but I
am convinced they are the right people. I have the marriage record of
Braz from Achada and it was in such poor condition I could not read his
father’s first name and his mother’s second name. 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, New Hampshire, USA

Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Margaret Vicente
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:32 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

 

Rick,

 

The document agrees with JR's notes:  (Translation)

 

"on the 2nd day of the month of February year 1676 (02-Feb-1676) I
baptized Bras son of João da Costa and of his wife Maria Vultoa.
Godparents were Gaspar da Costa Carvalho and Maria de Santiago daugther
of Francisco Teixeira and for/by truth I sign it era est supra.

 

Margaret

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:17 PM,  wrote:

Hi JR,

Did you try Microsoft Office Document Imaging?


Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, New Hampshire, USA
Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores



-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

Of JR
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:11 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

Rick I have most of that info, but I can't open you files. My programs
say you compression is unsupported. I have word, Photoshop, nothing
works.

JR

On Jul 15, 6:57 pm,  wrote:
> Hi All
>
>  I am looking at a record from Divino Espirito Santo in Maia and it is
> the baptism of Braz. I believe this is my 5th great grandfather. I
have
> most all of it but would like another set of eyes to verify what I
see.
>
> Rick
>
> Richard Francis Pimentel
>
> Epping, New Hampshire, USA
>
> Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
>
>  Document2.tif
> 366KViewDownload

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Festa do Espirito Santo in Artesia, CA July 23 - 25

[Tracy Krause]

Hello cheri,

Is this the FESTA you were telling me about in SLC? Is there  a web site
that tells about this? I will have to share this with my mom!

Tracy

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:41 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Festa do Espirito Santo in Artesia, CA July
23 - 25

 

Correction to Fri, July 23rd (it was late and I was tired and left this
off):
7pm is the presentation of the queens (we get to play for that).
9pm is Fados (those are singers and it doesn't involve the band).

Cheri

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