RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to mess up the archives/message board/forum
Ouch!! I am the guilty party here(so sorry!!). So to start a new thread do I have to log into the group at Google? Eileen Leite From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:35 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to mess up the archives/message board/forum People are doing much, much better on starting a new email when starting a new topic/message/idea/thread. However, for people who read via the archives/message board/forum this can get to be really confusing. I'm also still get emails about people hijacking their thread. I know it's not done on purpose. So for everyone (90% of this list) who don't use the archives/message board/forum, here is how it's getting messed up. Look at the attached screen shot. Notice the title that says the topic/thread is about Lemas. That lasts for 2 posts. Then in red, I've circled that the topic was changed to Rhode Island (I've blurred the names to protect the innocent!) Seven posts continue about Rhode Island (more or less). Then it's changed to Cape Verde for 11 posts. Then back to Rhode Island for a post and then back to Cape Verde. I don't think the changes back were actual changes, I think they were a response back to a previously titled post. The threading of the groups causes those changes. So, if you are out on the Internet, researching your Lemas, and you come across this post, what are learning about Lemas? Or if you are a digest person or are reading via the board, this main topic isn't what you think it is. There are also 5 hijacks on this thread (you can't see one of them on page 2). I know none of them are intentional. I think what is happening (and I'm not in your house/work looking over your shoulder) is someone went to start a new topic or meant to refine the topic, so they hit reply to the email (because they were in email mode) and left the address to Azores@googlegroups.com in tact and changed the subject of the email and typed up the email. Don't ask me how Google Groups knows that the original email was titled Lema, I'm not a computer programmer. But somehow, it knows to follow the path back to the original. Please, DON'T DO THIS. If you are reading about the Lemas in Seekonk and it reminds you of your Costas in California, start a fresh email. I'm not upset and I'm not picking on anyone. I just want the group to understand a little bit more about how our posts and messages wind up on the other end. Thanks for everyone's help! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How to mess up the archives/message board/forum
Hi Eileen, If you want to log into the group at Google, you can. That's one way. Or just go to your email, click compose email, type in Azores@googlegroups.com, type in a subject, and away you go. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor...
Something else I should have added to my post about my great grandfather coming by train from Massachusetts to California is that we are fairly certain that he already had at least one brother and maybe cousins here in California. He only stayed in Massachusetts to pay off his passage to the US. I really would like to know who the first one was who came and maybe I will find out someday. Mary Bordi On Jan 23, 2011, at 7:52 PM, gracefalc...@aol.com wrote: thank-you mary this is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Most of my azorean ancestors settled in Fall River, Swansea, and New Bedford. In my attempts to locate any that may have headed West. I am fascinated with how our azorean peoples migrated with little to nothing after leaving the islands and got to California and elsewhere. best, grace In a message dated 1/23/2011 7:04:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, geneal...@hununu.org writes: On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:19 PM, gracefalc...@aol.com wrote: (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. I am not sure this is what you are looking for but... My great grandfather (from Sao Jorge) came to Massachusetts around 1871 and worked several years there before coming to California. When he did, he came by train and he told my mother that the Indians played tricks on the train as they were passing by. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
I don't think this is too off subjectMy father told me his dad used to walk over the hill to the mines. At this point in time they lived in either Milpitas (San Jose, CA area). I think, from the back of my mind, that it was a sulfur mine. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks, Sam in Maz -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Bordi Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 2:59 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
is there anyway you could scan the broadsheet and attach a copy? Edward Rodrigues Mary Bordi geneal...@hununu.org On Jan 24, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Mary Bordi wrote: Regarding Brokers and Jobbers-- I got an broadsheet published by Murray and Ready, SF California in August 1905 that advertised (their words not mine) White male help of all kinds furnished free of charge. It was issued four times daily and I imagine posted various places for people to see and sent to outlying areas, perhaps. All sorts of jobs were listed by category, such as waiters, blacksmiths, cooks, laborers, ranch hands, Saw mills, boys, married help etc. Something that might have appealed to our Azorean ancestors might be: Man run gang plow s. Joaquin Co. $1.25 day bd 4 Teamsters 2 horses Solano Co $1.50 fare Hay baler JM press 50c fare 14ctn Boy milk 3 cows and work on ranch 50c fare Milker 24-28 cows run hand separator feed etc. Merced Co fare 4.25 Farmer and wife 5 people to cook for $45 fd There were also city jobs and railroad jobs. Another broadsheet, undated, was a Special list of corporations, syndicates, trusts and banking corporations jobs (all labor, not office) and had this ad in Spanish, German, Greek, French, Italian and Portuguese: Do you want secure and steady work? We need 100 Portuguese in 5 states and 2 territories, including all counties in California. If you want to work see Murray Ready. At the bottom of each ad it said In 1902 we found jobs for 45,000 men. Since we were on the subject I thought this might interest some folks. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor...
My great grandparents (grandfather's parents) Victorino (B:Nov 17, 1883, d Jan. 1951) and Mary Gomes traveled through the horn to Honolulu, HI in 1906. My Great-great grandparents Manuel and Mary Rodrigues traveled through the horn between 1887 and 1889. I have not researched the ship records for when the Cabral side of the family made the same trip, however both of my great grandmother from the Cabral and my great grandfather from th Rodrigues side (mentioned in the previous pargraph) were born in Hawaii. I wonder if there are relatives in the tree that immigrated to the East Coast instead of Hawaii. But that is for another thread. Eric Gomes Castro Valley, CA On Jan 24, 2011, at 11:11 AM, cakemom...@aol.com wrote: My grandmother, Maria de Gloria Silveira from Praia do Almoxirife in Faial, came to Massachusetts in 1892. She lived there for about 8 years and then she lost her job in one of the mills. Her uncle, Manuel Vargas, lived here in Sacramento and he was friends with Francisco Jose Luis who had just lost his wife and was from Pedra Miguel a nearby area in the Faial. My grandmother was in her late twenties and not married. When she wrote and told her uncle that she had lost her job, I'm guessing he told her to come west and meet this widower he knew. She came across country by train and told my aunt that train robbers had tried to stop the train. She arrived in Sacramento and shortly after married my grandfather, Francisco Jose Luis and became step-mother to his 6 almost grown children. She had 4 children of her own, two of which died in infancy. Mary Ann M. -Original Message- From: Mary Bordi geneal...@hununu.org To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Jan 24, 2011 10:18 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azor... Something else I should have added to my post about my great grandfather coming by train from Massachusetts to California is that we are fairly certain that he already had at least one brother and maybe cousins here in California. He only stayed in Massachusetts to pay off his passage to the US. I really would like to know who the first one was who came and maybe I will find out someday. Mary Bordi On Jan 23, 2011, at 7:52 PM, gracefalc...@aol.com wrote: thank-you mary this is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. Most of my azorean ancestors settled in Fall River, Swansea, and New Bedford. In my attempts to locate any that may have headed West. I am fascinated with how our azorean peoples migrated with little to nothing after leaving the islands and got to California and elsewhere. best, grace In a message dated 1/23/2011 7:04:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, geneal...@hununu.org writes: On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:19 PM, gracefalc...@aol.com wrote: (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. I am not sure this is what you are looking for but... My great grandfather (from Sao Jorge) came to Massachusetts around 1871 and worked several years there before coming to California. When he did, he came by train and he told my mother that the Indians played tricks on the train as they were passing by. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Brokers/Jobers, how immigrants found work
On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Edward Rodrigues wrote: is there anyway you could scan the broadsheet and attach a copy? That occurred to me as I was typing in the few examples I gave. The paper is larger than my scanner, so I would have to stitch two scans together. I will put it on my list of things to do. I know it was really interesting to me and I would love to share with anyone else who is interested. In fact, the papers themselves have been folded for many years and scanning them would at least preserve the information on them and save folding and unfolding in order to access that info. Mary Bordi PS If I don't get around to it in a month or so and anyone remembers, send me a reminder! -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
