Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

2013-06-30 Thread brownat68
There is a George Jesse in that picture, I wonder if this is the same Jesse 
family I remember growing up in North Plymouth. George had a wife Maryann.

It was said that my grandfather Joesph Furtado and George Jesse were 
cousins from a family connection back in the Azores but I do not have 
access to and cannot read the records in the Azores to see how. Do people 
on this forum have access to those records?

Joseph Michael Furtado, wife Edith
Birth 1913 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA
Death 1975 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA

Father name:
Antonio Miguel Furtado, wife Maria do Rosario Luiz
Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT
Death 21 June 1950 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA

Allen

On Friday, June 28, 2013 4:14:22 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote:


 From the 1920 census page for the Frank Jesse family The census shows they 
 arrived in Mass in 1907. ,  , I've compared the births for Massachucetts on 
 Familysearch. The mother is Frances Nunes Silva, or Francisca Nunes Silveira

 . A 1924 shiplist for the Arcadian from Bermuda to New York shows a group 
 of this family returning from a visit . their birth is shown as St 
 Michaels. The oldest shown as father is Frank Jesse 70 years. giving a 
 birthdate of 1854. 

 They give Frank Jesse's address on Prince street as destination.

 With  Frank's childrens names of Naomi, Samuel, Abraham,Ruth and Moses, 
 I'd make a guess of some Jewish origin.


 Eric Edgar


 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Dick Boba dicki...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse,  from North 
 Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. 
 Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's 
 grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to 
 great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore 
 so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and 
 his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's 
 sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their 
 early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all 
 very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an 
 accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to 
 America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as 
 boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. 
 The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on 
 Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are 
 still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area 
 and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse 
 family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at 
 a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and 
 grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to 
 North Plymouth  in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of 
 vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San 
 Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name 
 Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. 
 They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many 
 Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant 
 relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on 
 of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal 
 recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I 
 have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is 
 also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which 
 I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The 
 pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse 
 descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd 
 generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to 
 us children to piece it all together!

 I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken 
 on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. 
 Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie 
 Jesse.

 On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote:

 I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to 
 research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather 
 was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He 
 married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my 
 Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my 
 Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse 
 (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as 
 married 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

2013-06-30 Thread Shirley Allegre
I made up a list of Portuguese words that helped me to read the Portuguese ie: 
birth, marriage, death, records.
I hope that it helps.
Shirley in CA
  - Original Message - 
  From: brownat68 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family


  There is a George Jesse in that picture, I wonder if this is the same Jesse 
family I remember growing up in North Plymouth. George had a wife Maryann.


  It was said that my grandfather Joesph Furtado and George Jesse were cousins 
from a family connection back in the Azores but I do not have access to and 
cannot read the records in the Azores to see how. Do people on this forum have 
access to those records?


  Joseph Michael Furtado, wife Edith
  Birth 1913 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA

  Death 1975 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA


  Father name:
  Antonio Miguel Furtado, wife Maria do Rosario Luiz

  Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT

  Death 21 June 1950 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA


  Allen


  On Friday, June 28, 2013 4:14:22 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote:


From the 1920 census page for the Frank Jesse family The census shows they 
arrived in Mass in 1907. ,  , I've compared the births for Massachucetts on 
Familysearch. The mother is Frances Nunes Silva, or Francisca Nunes Silveira


. A 1924 shiplist for the Arcadian from Bermuda to New York shows a group 
of this family returning from a visit . their birth is shown as St Michaels. 
The oldest shown as father is Frank Jesse 70 years. giving a birthdate of 1854. 


They give Frank Jesse's address on Prince street as destination.


With  Frank's childrens names of Naomi, Samuel, Abraham,Ruth and Moses, I'd 
make a guess of some Jewish origin.




Eric Edgar



On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Dick Boba dicki...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse,  from North 
Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, 
Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren 
is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He 
is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to 
see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse 
family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided 
us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have 
not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle 
income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for 
Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided 
for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard 
in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They 
all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants 
who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island 
area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse 
family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a 
campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and 
grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to 
North Plymouth  in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel 
by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but 
before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has 
French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all 
buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves 
there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from 
Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early 
family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own 
family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide 
me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in 
this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the 
Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a 
great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 
1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's 
up to us children to piece it all together!


  I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken 
on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank 
is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse.

  On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote:
I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to 
research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

2013-06-30 Thread carmen furtado
hi dick
 
aztec's family is related to me by marriage
 
here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders
 
http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm
 
click on anna jesse's name
 
internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other browsers and 
internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files
 
i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have deleted most of 
the clickable links
 
i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these people
 
thanks
 
carmen

   
 
    
 


 From: Dick Boba dickieb...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Cc: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
  


Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse,  from North Plymouth, 
Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted 
and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my 
cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not 
into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him 
at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family 
was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with 
verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully 
processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, 
which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese 
immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their 
families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North 
Plymouth. The Jesse boat building
 business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North 
Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in 
the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are 
very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) 
ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My 
mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John 
and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth  in the late 1800s, around 
1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they 
came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that 
from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to 
trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, 
Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. 
A distant relative from Plymouth has
 given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I 
have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. 
I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an 
email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog 
posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores 
connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great 
mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st 
and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up 
to us children to piece it all together!

I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my 
grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is 
the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote:
I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to 
research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather 
was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He 
married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my 
Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my 
Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse 
(Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as 
married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from 
Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can 
anyone help me with my research? 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Participants in Azores DNA Group only

2013-06-30 Thread E Sharp
If you are a participant through the Azores group for your DNA study, do
the results show only the other participants of the Azores group or results
overall
for all FTDNA partcipants.

If this is true, where does one also join to get results overall as well as
those on the Azores? I am assuming one might pick up some exact matches
where not expected in this case.

E

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Participants in Azores DNA Group only

2013-06-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Elaine,

There's a setting that you can control.  The default is to show all matches
within the entire FTDNA database.  If you want to filter it to show matches
with the Azores DNA project only or the Madeira only or the Smith DNA only
(if you had a Smith line), you can do that.

There are other filters too for Family Finder (In Common With, Not In
Common With, New Since ___) etc.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like

2013-06-30 Thread Elisabeth Costa
Hi Cheri!  Thank you for this discussion, it is helpful.  One question:  On my 
results (I did family finder) I have several people with the same surname 
bolded (Dickenson).  That is not one of my surnames, is it highlighted because 
of similarity to a surname I have or because quite a few people on my matches 
have it?
 
Thanks!
 
Elisabeth
 
From: gfsche...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:19:27 -0700
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results 
look like
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Here's my post from last year about Family Finder.
Cheri
=

Here's some screen shots from their Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs): 
http://goo.gl/Rhrvw



There's the Home page, the Matches page, and the Population Finder page.



The FAMILY FINDER HOME PAGE that you see in the link above is just a home page.

The MATCHES page:
You'll see that the first match on this page is Mark Doe. IF this were a real 
person on your page, you could click on his name to get a little bit more info 
that he filled out on his profile.  Email, location, research interests, 
haplogroups (if tested Y or mtDNA), etc.  Under his name you see an envelope 
which is another way to email Mark Doe.  The orange icon says TiP.  That's an 
acronym for Time Prediction.  It's the Time Predictor Calculator (a real 
statistical thing) for those who have taken the Y-DNA test and want gory detail 
on the Time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA) is.  Or sometimes you 
see MRCA for Most Recent Common Ancestor.  The 3rd button is green with a 
check.  It was a notepad with a pencil but this one has a note on it.  If you 
matched Mark Doe, you may have put a note that says Common ancestors are 
Manuel Silva and Maria Furtada, or whatever note you want to make about the 
person.  The blue button under Mark's name lets you know his Gedcom has been 
uploaded. THIS IS CRUCIAL FOR FAMILY FINDER PARTICIPANTS!  Click on the button 
and start exploring Mark's family tree.  After the buttons, you see Y-DNA 111 
FMS.  Mark has also tested his Y-DNA up to the 111 marker level.  He also took 
the Full MitochondrialDNA Sequence (FMS) test.





The next section has headings.  
Match date: The date that your match appeared.
Relationship range:  A suggested range that the geneticists thinks your DNA 
falls into.
Suggested relationship:  What they really think the relationship is.




Shared cM:  Total shared centoMorgans.  A centoMorgan is a unit of measure, 
like an inch or a centimeter, but something microscopic.  The total helps the 
geneticists with the relationship range and the suggested relationship.




Longest block: The longest block you and Mark Doe have in common.  This too 
helps the geneticists with the range and suggested relationshp.  The screen 
default is sorted by this field.  You can click on the top of any heading to 
sort by that heading.  If it's backwards, click it again and it will reverse 
sorting directions.



Known Relationship:  Once you figure out this is your 1st cousin, aunt, 
wwhatever, click the button and chose the relationship.  The other person has 
to accept the relationship too.


Known Genealogy: Ancestral Surnames:
Here's the CRUCIAL PART.  You can upload your Gedcom and FTDNA will compare 
your surnames to your matches and the bolded ones on top will be your common 
names (not shown here). Or you can go crazy typing them all in by hand.  A lot 
of people do neither.  As soon as someone orders a DNA kit through the Azores 
project, the welcome letter goes out that suggests you get your Gedcom in 
order.  The Gedcom can be uploaded before your results come in.  I recommend 
this.  That way, when your results do come in, your common surnames will be 
bolded and on top (unlike the screen shot shown in the URL above).




Now, if your match is Judy Thompson, and Judy has NOT uploaded her Gedcom, you 
may just skip over her looking for some other Portuguese name.  Thompson isn't 
Portuguese, but her maiden name is.  You would not know that by looking at the 
name Judy Thompson.  Unless you remember her posting here.  It's pretty time 
consuming (and I'm pretty behind), but I try to email people and tell them who 
their Portuguese matches are.  You can tell instantly if you upload your 
Gedcom.  And Judy has uploaded her Gedcom (although there seems to be a glitch 
on the FTDNA side - I reported it) so when her results come in, you'll see 
which surnames you match her on (sorry for using you as an example, Judy)!




FAMILY FINDER - POPULATION FINDER page:
This is the 3rd screen shot in the URL provided above.  It shows you your 
ethnic percentages and a map where the poppulation geneticists think you came 
from.  This is in beta.  Only 4 western European populations have been tested: 
French, Basque, Spain, and Sicily (I think).  At the genealogy Jamboree a 
couple of weeks ago, Bennett Greenspan, founder and CEO of FTDNA said the 
Population Finder is 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like

2013-06-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Elisabeth C,

I really need to ask FTDNA about that.  They have some type of weird
Soundex or similarity system that they match the names with.  And some of
it just doesn't make sense to me at all.  But I guess they are trying to
capture the largest audience.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like

2013-06-30 Thread E Sharp
Cheri,

By the way, I thought I would tell you the phone call was from my sis who
is in Hudson at a festa and she called to brag about the malasadas, sopas,
and the women carrying bread on their heads and all that great food she is
eating.

Eat you hearts out everyone...as I am...

E


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:28 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Cheri.  I did as you said and the all matches have dots in them
 so I guess it is all his matches. Oh, the things you learn..when you
 have someone who knows what they are doing...

 E


 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Elisabeth C,

 I really need to ask FTDNA about that.  They have some type of weird
 Soundex or similarity system that they match the names with.  And some of
 it just doesn't make sense to me at all.  But I guess they are trying to
 capture the largest audience.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

2013-06-30 Thread brownat68
Thanks

Allen

On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:04:14 AM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote:

  I made up a list of Portuguese words that helped me to read the 
 Portuguese ie: birth, marriage, death, records.
 I hope that it helps.
 Shirley in CA

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* brownat68 javascript: 
 *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Sent:* Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:48 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

 There is a George Jesse in that picture, I wonder if this is the same 
 Jesse family I remember growing up in North Plymouth. George had a wife 
 Maryann. 

 It was said that my grandfather Joesph Furtado and George Jesse were 
 cousins from a family connection back in the Azores but I do not have 
 access to and cannot read the records in the Azores to see how. Do people 
 on this forum have access to those records? 

  Joseph Michael Furtado, wife Edith
 Birth 1913 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA
 Death 1975 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA

 Father name:
  Antonio Miguel Furtado, wife Maria do Rosario Luiz
 Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT
 Death 21 June 1950 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA

 Allen

 On Friday, June 28, 2013 4:14:22 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: 


 From the 1920 census page for the Frank Jesse family The census shows 
 they arrived in Mass in 1907. ,  , I've compared the births for 
 Massachucetts on Familysearch. The mother is Frances Nunes Silva, or 
 Francisca Nunes Silveira

 . A 1924 shiplist for the Arcadian from Bermuda to New York shows a group 
 of this family returning from a visit . their birth is shown as St 
 Michaels. The oldest shown as father is Frank Jesse 70 years. giving a 
 birthdate of 1854. 

 They give Frank Jesse's address on Prince street as destination.

 With  Frank's childrens names of Naomi, Samuel, Abraham,Ruth and Moses, 
 I'd make a guess of some Jewish origin.


 Eric Edgar


 On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Dick Boba dicki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse,  from North 
 Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. 
 Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's 
 grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to 
 great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore 
 so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and 
 his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's 
 sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their 
 early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all 
 very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an 
 accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to 
 America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as 
 boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. 
 The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on 
 Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are 
 still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area 
 and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse 
 family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at 
 a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and 
 grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to 
 North Plymouth  in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of 
 vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San 
 Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name 
 Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. 
 They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many 
 Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant 
 relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on 
 of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal 
 recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I 
 have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is 
 also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which 
 I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The 
 pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse 
 descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd 
 generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to 
 us children to piece it all together! 

 I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken 
 on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. 
 Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie 
 Jesse.

 On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: 

 I am new to this group so 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Jacinto, Nunes da Silva from Sao Miguel to Plymouth, Massachusetts

2013-06-30 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for browna...@gmail.com (no name given; no name signed at bottom of
email)

I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to
research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather
was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He
married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my
Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my
Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse
(Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as
married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from
Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can
anyone help me with my research?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

2013-06-30 Thread eric edgar
Carmen,

In the Jesse tree there are the Nunes and Silva families with records in
Madelena, Pico.

In a search of the NEPS site for PIco, I can find no records to match these.
What is the source of the information?

Eric Edgar


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:34 AM, carmen furtado carmen_furt...@yahoo.comwrote:

 hi dick

 aztec's family is related to me by marriage

 here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders

 http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm

 click on anna jesse's name

 internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other browsers
 and internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files

 i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have deleted most
 of the clickable links

 i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these people

 thanks

 carmen




 **


*From:* Dick Boba dickieb...@gmail.com
 *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
 *Cc:* Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32 AM
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

 Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse,  from North
 Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers.
 Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's
 grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to
 great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore
 so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and
 his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's
 sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their
 early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all
 very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an
 accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to
 America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as
 boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth.
 The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on
 Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are
 still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area
 and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse
 family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at
 a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and
 grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to
 North Plymouth  in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of
 vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San
 Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name
 Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back.
 They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many
 Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant
 relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on
 of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal
 recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I
 have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is
 also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which
 I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The
 pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse
 descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd
 generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to
 us children to piece it all together!

 I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on
 my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s.
 Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie
 Jesse.

 On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote:

 I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to
 research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather
 was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He
 married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my
 Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my
 Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse
 (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as
 married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from
 Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can
 anyone help me with my research?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

2013-06-30 Thread Seekgene
H.i Carmen,
 
This is Marie Pleasant, Dick's wife.  I am the one with Portuguese  
connections however I am sorry to say that I have not been able to find a  
connection with your jesse family although I do have a lot of Pico  ancestors, 
especially in Lajes and S. Mateus.  Some of mine are from  Faial also.  Going 
way 
back, there are some Teceira connections.   I have heard that there are S. 
Miguel connections, too but I can't  confirm that.  Boa sorte.  I hope you 
find your ancestors.Marie Machado/Marshall/Pleasant
 
 
In a message dated 6/30/2013 8:34:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
carmen_furt...@yahoo.com writes:

 
hi dick h
 
aztec's family is related to me by marriage
 
here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders
 
http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm
 
click on anna jesse's name
 
internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other  browsers 
and internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files
 
i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have  deleted most 
of the clickable links
 
i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these  people
 
thanks
 
carmen

 
 
 











 
 

From: Dick Boba  dickieb...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Cc: Azores Genealogy  Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32  AM
Subject:  [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family


Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse,  from North 
Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four  brothers. Manual, 
Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of  Frank's 
grandchildren 
is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the  family to great 
length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth  anymore so I 
don't 
get to see him at all so most of what he told me about  Frank and his wing 
of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My  mother's sisters have 
recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of  their early family 
history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all  very fiercly proud 
hard workers, middle income, which was quite an  accomplishment in the 
early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America,  so you can be proud 
of 
that. They provided for their families as boat builders  and fishermen. 
They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat  building 
business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in  North 
Plymouth, 
Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly  populated in the 
eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the  cousins are very 
strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's  descendants) ave a 
family reunion every year in August at a campground in New  Hampshire. My 
mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's  parents) were 
John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth  in  the late 1800s, 
around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of  Bermuda. It is 
confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that  Portugal and even 
before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots)  but we have not 
been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine  Hills cemetery 
in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have  visited and 
examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a  database 
and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been  
combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would  
be 
glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email  address 
(privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog  posting 
that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores  connections 
and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great  mystery to 
us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st  and 2nd 
generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up  to 
us children to piece it all together!  


I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken  on 
my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s.  
Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie  Jesse.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote:  
I  am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to  
research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather  
was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He  
married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my  
Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my  
Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse  
(Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as  
married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from  
Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can  
anyone help 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family

2013-06-30 Thread carmen furtado
edgar
 
at ancestry.com  - search frances n. jesse - new york passenger list - arrival 
october 5, 1933 - ship augustus - look at the second page of the manifest - 
mother-in law - mary nunes silva - pico - bandeiras - azores
 
carmen

 
 
    
 


 From: eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
  


Carmen, 

In the Jesse tree there are the Nunes and Silva families with records in 
Madelena, Pico.

In a search of the NEPS site for PIco, I can find no records to match these. 
What is the source of the information?

Eric Edgar



On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:34 AM, carmen furtado carmen_furt...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

hi dick
  
aztec's family is related to me by marriage
 
here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders
 
http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm 
 
click on anna jesse's name
 
internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other browsers and 
internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files 
 
i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have deleted most of 
the clickable links
 
i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these people
 
thanks
 
carmen 

 
  
 
     

 
 From: Dick Boba dickieb...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Cc: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32 AM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
 


Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse,  from North Plymouth, 
Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted 
and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my 
cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is 
not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see 
him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse 
family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided 
us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have 
not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle 
income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for 
Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided 
for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard 
in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat
 building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in 
North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated 
in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are 
very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) 
ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My 
mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John 
and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth  in the late 1800s, around 
1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they 
came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that 
from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to 
trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, 
Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. 
A distant relative from Plymouth
 has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. 
I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family 
photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with 
an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this 
blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores 
connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great 
mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st 
and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up 
to us children to piece it all together!


I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my 
grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is 
the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse.

On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote:
I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to 
research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather 
was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He 
married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my 
Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my 
Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse 
(Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as 
married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tomorrow is the first of the month Time for Backup

2013-06-30 Thread E Sharp
Rick,

Thanks for the reminder.

I have an external hard drive daily backup, also have a 32 gb memory stick
in my safe deposit box which I backup once a month.

E


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

 *Hi all *

 * *

 *I just wanted to remind everyone that tomorrow is the first of the month
 and to back up your computer.*

 * *

 *Backups work! I had a hard drive go on life support two weeks ago and
 was able to restore ALL my files on my new computer. If I lost anything I
 haven’t missed it. I had been doing a daily backup and was up to date.*

 * *

 *Having an external hard drive and using windows 8 which works in the
 background is easy; I never have to worry about my files.*

 * *

 *Cheri is in the same situation and will be replacing her Hard
 Drive/Computer this week. She has a backup also.*

 * *

 *If I consider the countless hours I have spent with my genealogy files
 having a backup is priceless.*

 * *

 * *

 * *

 *Rick*

 * *

 *Richard Francis Pimentel*

 *Spring, TX*

 *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire *

 * *

 *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
 Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*

 * *

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help w/ Madalena, Pico baptism

2013-06-30 Thread Fawn Silva
Hello Group,

I have not posted for quite a while but need some help with a baptism I
just found.  This is for Vincencia Roza, who was left on a doorstep @ birth
at the home of Joseph de Rosa and his wife __ Maria and was baptized in
Madalena, Pico.

I can't read all of it but what I got out of it was:

Vicenta, daughter of unknown parents September 5, 1785, was laid at the
door of Joseph da Rosa and his wife _  Maria, residents of _
natives of this parish __Madelena, Pico, and was baptized on the
6thday of the same month, godfather was grandson, Joseph Ignatio_
Fayal

But in her Sept 1811 Santa Luzia, Pico, marriage record Vincentia is listed
as the legitimate daughter of Joze  Roza and Maria Francisca.  Did they
adopt her and so she became legitimate?  Was Maria Francisca a different
wife than the __ Maria in the baptism record?

Also, when you come across someone who has been adopted, do you then follow
the adopted family line?  That sounds like what I would like to do since
they obviously became her parents.

I don't know how to attach these baptism  marriage records but here are
the sites:

Baptism:

***
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html
*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html

Marriage:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815_item1/P267.html



Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!!

Thank you,

Fawn Silva

St. Louis, MO

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