Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
There is a George Jesse in that picture, I wonder if this is the same Jesse family I remember growing up in North Plymouth. George had a wife Maryann. It was said that my grandfather Joesph Furtado and George Jesse were cousins from a family connection back in the Azores but I do not have access to and cannot read the records in the Azores to see how. Do people on this forum have access to those records? Joseph Michael Furtado, wife Edith Birth 1913 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA Death 1975 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA Father name: Antonio Miguel Furtado, wife Maria do Rosario Luiz Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Death 21 June 1950 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Allen On Friday, June 28, 2013 4:14:22 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: From the 1920 census page for the Frank Jesse family The census shows they arrived in Mass in 1907. , , I've compared the births for Massachucetts on Familysearch. The mother is Frances Nunes Silva, or Francisca Nunes Silveira . A 1924 shiplist for the Arcadian from Bermuda to New York shows a group of this family returning from a visit . their birth is shown as St Michaels. The oldest shown as father is Frank Jesse 70 years. giving a birthdate of 1854. They give Frank Jesse's address on Prince street as destination. With Frank's childrens names of Naomi, Samuel, Abraham,Ruth and Moses, I'd make a guess of some Jewish origin. Eric Edgar On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Dick Boba dicki...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse, from North Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to us children to piece it all together! I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse. On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as married
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
I made up a list of Portuguese words that helped me to read the Portuguese ie: birth, marriage, death, records. I hope that it helps. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: brownat68 To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family There is a George Jesse in that picture, I wonder if this is the same Jesse family I remember growing up in North Plymouth. George had a wife Maryann. It was said that my grandfather Joesph Furtado and George Jesse were cousins from a family connection back in the Azores but I do not have access to and cannot read the records in the Azores to see how. Do people on this forum have access to those records? Joseph Michael Furtado, wife Edith Birth 1913 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA Death 1975 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA Father name: Antonio Miguel Furtado, wife Maria do Rosario Luiz Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Death 21 June 1950 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Allen On Friday, June 28, 2013 4:14:22 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: From the 1920 census page for the Frank Jesse family The census shows they arrived in Mass in 1907. , , I've compared the births for Massachucetts on Familysearch. The mother is Frances Nunes Silva, or Francisca Nunes Silveira . A 1924 shiplist for the Arcadian from Bermuda to New York shows a group of this family returning from a visit . their birth is shown as St Michaels. The oldest shown as father is Frank Jesse 70 years. giving a birthdate of 1854. They give Frank Jesse's address on Prince street as destination. With Frank's childrens names of Naomi, Samuel, Abraham,Ruth and Moses, I'd make a guess of some Jewish origin. Eric Edgar On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Dick Boba dicki...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse, from North Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to us children to piece it all together! I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse. On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
hi dick aztec's family is related to me by marriage here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm click on anna jesse's name internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other browsers and internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have deleted most of the clickable links i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these people thanks carmen From: Dick Boba dickieb...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse, from North Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to us children to piece it all together! I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse. On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can anyone help me with my research? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Participants in Azores DNA Group only
If you are a participant through the Azores group for your DNA study, do the results show only the other participants of the Azores group or results overall for all FTDNA partcipants. If this is true, where does one also join to get results overall as well as those on the Azores? I am assuming one might pick up some exact matches where not expected in this case. E -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Participants in Azores DNA Group only
Elaine, There's a setting that you can control. The default is to show all matches within the entire FTDNA database. If you want to filter it to show matches with the Azores DNA project only or the Madeira only or the Smith DNA only (if you had a Smith line), you can do that. There are other filters too for Family Finder (In Common With, Not In Common With, New Since ___) etc. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like
Hi Cheri! Thank you for this discussion, it is helpful. One question: On my results (I did family finder) I have several people with the same surname bolded (Dickenson). That is not one of my surnames, is it highlighted because of similarity to a surname I have or because quite a few people on my matches have it? Thanks! Elisabeth From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:19:27 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like To: azores@googlegroups.com Here's my post from last year about Family Finder. Cheri = Here's some screen shots from their Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs): http://goo.gl/Rhrvw There's the Home page, the Matches page, and the Population Finder page. The FAMILY FINDER HOME PAGE that you see in the link above is just a home page. The MATCHES page: You'll see that the first match on this page is Mark Doe. IF this were a real person on your page, you could click on his name to get a little bit more info that he filled out on his profile. Email, location, research interests, haplogroups (if tested Y or mtDNA), etc. Under his name you see an envelope which is another way to email Mark Doe. The orange icon says TiP. That's an acronym for Time Prediction. It's the Time Predictor Calculator (a real statistical thing) for those who have taken the Y-DNA test and want gory detail on the Time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor (TMRCA) is. Or sometimes you see MRCA for Most Recent Common Ancestor. The 3rd button is green with a check. It was a notepad with a pencil but this one has a note on it. If you matched Mark Doe, you may have put a note that says Common ancestors are Manuel Silva and Maria Furtada, or whatever note you want to make about the person. The blue button under Mark's name lets you know his Gedcom has been uploaded. THIS IS CRUCIAL FOR FAMILY FINDER PARTICIPANTS! Click on the button and start exploring Mark's family tree. After the buttons, you see Y-DNA 111 FMS. Mark has also tested his Y-DNA up to the 111 marker level. He also took the Full MitochondrialDNA Sequence (FMS) test. The next section has headings. Match date: The date that your match appeared. Relationship range: A suggested range that the geneticists thinks your DNA falls into. Suggested relationship: What they really think the relationship is. Shared cM: Total shared centoMorgans. A centoMorgan is a unit of measure, like an inch or a centimeter, but something microscopic. The total helps the geneticists with the relationship range and the suggested relationship. Longest block: The longest block you and Mark Doe have in common. This too helps the geneticists with the range and suggested relationshp. The screen default is sorted by this field. You can click on the top of any heading to sort by that heading. If it's backwards, click it again and it will reverse sorting directions. Known Relationship: Once you figure out this is your 1st cousin, aunt, wwhatever, click the button and chose the relationship. The other person has to accept the relationship too. Known Genealogy: Ancestral Surnames: Here's the CRUCIAL PART. You can upload your Gedcom and FTDNA will compare your surnames to your matches and the bolded ones on top will be your common names (not shown here). Or you can go crazy typing them all in by hand. A lot of people do neither. As soon as someone orders a DNA kit through the Azores project, the welcome letter goes out that suggests you get your Gedcom in order. The Gedcom can be uploaded before your results come in. I recommend this. That way, when your results do come in, your common surnames will be bolded and on top (unlike the screen shot shown in the URL above). Now, if your match is Judy Thompson, and Judy has NOT uploaded her Gedcom, you may just skip over her looking for some other Portuguese name. Thompson isn't Portuguese, but her maiden name is. You would not know that by looking at the name Judy Thompson. Unless you remember her posting here. It's pretty time consuming (and I'm pretty behind), but I try to email people and tell them who their Portuguese matches are. You can tell instantly if you upload your Gedcom. And Judy has uploaded her Gedcom (although there seems to be a glitch on the FTDNA side - I reported it) so when her results come in, you'll see which surnames you match her on (sorry for using you as an example, Judy)! FAMILY FINDER - POPULATION FINDER page: This is the 3rd screen shot in the URL provided above. It shows you your ethnic percentages and a map where the poppulation geneticists think you came from. This is in beta. Only 4 western European populations have been tested: French, Basque, Spain, and Sicily (I think). At the genealogy Jamboree a couple of weeks ago, Bennett Greenspan, founder and CEO of FTDNA said the Population Finder is
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like
Hi Elisabeth C, I really need to ask FTDNA about that. They have some type of weird Soundex or similarity system that they match the names with. And some of it just doesn't make sense to me at all. But I guess they are trying to capture the largest audience. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: What Family Tree DNA's Family Finder results look like
Cheri, By the way, I thought I would tell you the phone call was from my sis who is in Hudson at a festa and she called to brag about the malasadas, sopas, and the women carrying bread on their heads and all that great food she is eating. Eat you hearts out everyone...as I am... E On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:28 AM, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Cheri. I did as you said and the all matches have dots in them so I guess it is all his matches. Oh, the things you learn..when you have someone who knows what they are doing... E On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Elisabeth C, I really need to ask FTDNA about that. They have some type of weird Soundex or similarity system that they match the names with. And some of it just doesn't make sense to me at all. But I guess they are trying to capture the largest audience. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
Thanks Allen On Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:04:14 AM UTC-4, Shirley Allegre wrote: I made up a list of Portuguese words that helped me to read the Portuguese ie: birth, marriage, death, records. I hope that it helps. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* brownat68 javascript: *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:48 AM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family There is a George Jesse in that picture, I wonder if this is the same Jesse family I remember growing up in North Plymouth. George had a wife Maryann. It was said that my grandfather Joesph Furtado and George Jesse were cousins from a family connection back in the Azores but I do not have access to and cannot read the records in the Azores to see how. Do people on this forum have access to those records? Joseph Michael Furtado, wife Edith Birth 1913 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA Death 1975 in Plymouth County, Massachusetts, USA Father name: Antonio Miguel Furtado, wife Maria do Rosario Luiz Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Death 21 June 1950 in Plymouth, Plymouth, Massachusetts, USA Allen On Friday, June 28, 2013 4:14:22 PM UTC-4, luiznoia wrote: From the 1920 census page for the Frank Jesse family The census shows they arrived in Mass in 1907. , , I've compared the births for Massachucetts on Familysearch. The mother is Frances Nunes Silva, or Francisca Nunes Silveira . A 1924 shiplist for the Arcadian from Bermuda to New York shows a group of this family returning from a visit . their birth is shown as St Michaels. The oldest shown as father is Frank Jesse 70 years. giving a birthdate of 1854. They give Frank Jesse's address on Prince street as destination. With Frank's childrens names of Naomi, Samuel, Abraham,Ruth and Moses, I'd make a guess of some Jewish origin. Eric Edgar On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:32 AM, Dick Boba dicki...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse, from North Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to us children to piece it all together! I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse. On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: I am new to this group so
[AZORES-Genealogy] Jacinto, Nunes da Silva from Sao Miguel to Plymouth, Massachusetts
Repost for browna...@gmail.com (no name given; no name signed at bottom of email) I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can anyone help me with my research? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
Carmen, In the Jesse tree there are the Nunes and Silva families with records in Madelena, Pico. In a search of the NEPS site for PIco, I can find no records to match these. What is the source of the information? Eric Edgar On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:34 AM, carmen furtado carmen_furt...@yahoo.comwrote: hi dick aztec's family is related to me by marriage here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm click on anna jesse's name internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other browsers and internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have deleted most of the clickable links i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these people thanks carmen ** *From:* Dick Boba dickieb...@gmail.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Cc:* Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32 AM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse, from North Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to us children to piece it all together! I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse. On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can anyone help me with my research? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
H.i Carmen, This is Marie Pleasant, Dick's wife. I am the one with Portuguese connections however I am sorry to say that I have not been able to find a connection with your jesse family although I do have a lot of Pico ancestors, especially in Lajes and S. Mateus. Some of mine are from Faial also. Going way back, there are some Teceira connections. I have heard that there are S. Miguel connections, too but I can't confirm that. Boa sorte. I hope you find your ancestors.Marie Machado/Marshall/Pleasant In a message dated 6/30/2013 8:34:45 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carmen_furt...@yahoo.com writes: hi dick h aztec's family is related to me by marriage here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm click on anna jesse's name internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other browsers and internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have deleted most of the clickable links i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these people thanks carmen From: Dick Boba dickieb...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse, from North Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to us children to piece it all together! I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse. On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and Francis came from Pico. My mother always said her mother had a sister in California. Can anyone help
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family
edgar at ancestry.com - search frances n. jesse - new york passenger list - arrival october 5, 1933 - ship augustus - look at the second page of the manifest - mother-in law - mary nunes silva - pico - bandeiras - azores carmen From: eric edgar noblankt...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family Carmen, In the Jesse tree there are the Nunes and Silva families with records in Madelena, Pico. In a search of the NEPS site for PIco, I can find no records to match these. What is the source of the information? Eric Edgar On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:34 AM, carmen furtado carmen_furt...@yahoo.com wrote: hi dick aztec's family is related to me by marriage here's what i have on the jesse family - boat builders http://home.comcast.net/~carmen_furtado/ances-tree/2_1922aj_t.htm click on anna jesse's name internet explorer 9 or previous versions are needed as the other browsers and internet explorer 10 can only read html5 files i am in the process of redoing all my files to html5 and have deleted most of the clickable links i would appreciate any photo scans of any of these people thanks carmen From: Dick Boba dickieb...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com; aztec1...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:32 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Plymouth, MA Family Hi Aztec. My mother's maiden name is Jesse. Frank Jesse, from North Plymouth, Massachusetts is my great-uncle. There were four brothers. Manual, Frank, Ted and Antoine. Antoine is my grandfather. One of Frank's grandchildren is my cousin Scott Jesse, and we have discussed the family to great length. He is not into computers and I don't live in Plymouth anymore so I don't get to see him at all so most of what he told me about Frank and his wing of the Jesse family was verbal and in my memory. My mother's sisters have recently provided us with verbal recordings (tapes) of their early family history which I have not fully processed yet. They were all very fiercly proud hard workers, middle income, which was quite an accomplishment in the early 20th century for Portuguese immigrants to America, so you can be proud of that. They provided for their families as boat builders and fishermen. They had their own boatyard in North Plymouth. The Jesse boat building business survives to this day. They all lived on Castle Street in North Plymouth, Ma. They have many descendants who are still strongly populated in the eastern Massachusetts and Rhode Island area and many of the cousins are very strongly connected. Our wing of the Jesse family (Antone's descendants) ave a family reunion every year in August at a campground in New Hampshire. My mother has told me her grandfather and grandmother (Frank's parents) were John and Mary (Jesse) that they came to North Plymouth in the late 1800s, around 1880 or 1890 from some kind of vessel by way of Bermuda. It is confirmed they came from Azores (San Miguel) but before that Portugal and even before that from France (the name Jacinth has French roots) but we have not been able to trace that far back. They are all buried in Vine Hills cemetery in Plymouth, Ma. There are many Jesse graves there, that I have visited and examined myself. A distant relative from Plymouth has given me a database and photos he was working on of the early family tree. I have been combining this with the verbal recordings and our own family photos. I would be glad to send everything I have to you if you provide me with an email address (privately). There is also a wealth of information in this blog posting that I did not have which I will pencil in concerning the Azores connections and locations. The pre-Plymouth history has always been a great mystery to us Jesse descendants. Our parents simply do not know, and the 1st and 2nd generations have all long since passed and kept no records. So it's up to us children to piece it all together! I have attached a photo of the four brothers, which I am told was taken on my grandfather's wedding day in Fall River, MA, sometime in the 1930s. Frank is the one with the dark moustache. They also called him Blackie Jesse. On Wednesday, March 4, 2009 5:56:26 PM UTC-6, Aztec wrote: I am new to this group so please be patient. I have been trying to research my Portuguese roots with little to no lucky. My Grandfather was a ship builder in Plymouth named Frank Jesse (Jacintho?). He married Francis Nunes de Silva. I have the Ellis island report of my Grandfather coming to the US (twice) but am having no luck with my Grandmother. My GGrandfather was also Frank (Francisco?) Jesse (Jacintho?). His wife was Jacintha Jacintho (maiden name same as married name). Both Franks came from San Miguel, and
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tomorrow is the first of the month Time for Backup
Rick, Thanks for the reminder. I have an external hard drive daily backup, also have a 32 gb memory stick in my safe deposit box which I backup once a month. E On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote: *Hi all * * * *I just wanted to remind everyone that tomorrow is the first of the month and to back up your computer.* * * *Backups work! I had a hard drive go on life support two weeks ago and was able to restore ALL my files on my new computer. If I lost anything I haven’t missed it. I had been doing a daily backup and was up to date.* * * *Having an external hard drive and using windows 8 which works in the background is easy; I never have to worry about my files.* * * *Cheri is in the same situation and will be replacing her Hard Drive/Computer this week. She has a backup also.* * * *If I consider the countless hours I have spent with my genealogy files having a backup is priceless.* * * * * * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * ** ** -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help w/ Madalena, Pico baptism
Hello Group, I have not posted for quite a while but need some help with a baptism I just found. This is for Vincencia Roza, who was left on a doorstep @ birth at the home of Joseph de Rosa and his wife __ Maria and was baptized in Madalena, Pico. I can't read all of it but what I got out of it was: Vicenta, daughter of unknown parents September 5, 1785, was laid at the door of Joseph da Rosa and his wife _ Maria, residents of _ natives of this parish __Madelena, Pico, and was baptized on the 6thday of the same month, godfather was grandson, Joseph Ignatio_ Fayal But in her Sept 1811 Santa Luzia, Pico, marriage record Vincentia is listed as the legitimate daughter of Joze Roza and Maria Francisca. Did they adopt her and so she became legitimate? Was Maria Francisca a different wife than the __ Maria in the baptism record? Also, when you come across someone who has been adopted, do you then follow the adopted family line? That sounds like what I would like to do since they obviously became her parents. I don't know how to attach these baptism marriage records but here are the sites: Baptism: *** http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html Marriage: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815_item1/P267.html Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you, Fawn Silva St. Louis, MO -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.