[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help w/Father's Name on Topo Baptism

2013-11-04 Thread mances
Mateus (Matheus).

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 4 de novembro de 2013 03h28min50s UTC-2, 2si...@gmail.com 
escreveu:

 If anyone has a minute to check out this baptismal record for Maria 
 daughter of __ Silveira and Maria de Souza.  I am looking for 
 children of Mateus Silveira Agueda and Maria de Sousa and am wondering if 
 this is one of them...
  
 Can't read the father's first name.
  

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719_item1/P117.html
  
 Thank you,
 Fawn Silva
 St. Louis, MO


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Silva/Silveiro Family

2013-11-04 Thread Joy Hughes
Many thanks Isabella, that was most helpful.

Joy




On 04/11/2013, at 4:03 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote:

 To the eyes of the church a natural son - Filho natural - was a child born 
 from parents that were not married at the time for some reason, they may have 
 married later, you need later research on that. Notice that the father 
 recognizes the son and gave his name to him.
 
 Isabella Baltar
 myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help w/Father's Name on Topo Baptism

2013-11-04 Thread Isabella Baltar
Good morning Fawn,
 
Yes, Matheus Silveira is the father and Maria de Souza the mother.
 
She was  born 28 May 1710 and baptized on the 1 Jun 1710..
 
Isabella Baltar
myportuguesegen.blogspot.com
 

On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:28:50 AM UTC-5, 2si...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anyone has a minute to check out this baptismal record for Maria 
 daughter of __ Silveira and Maria de Souza.  I am looking for 
 children of Mateus Silveira Agueda and Maria de Sousa and am wondering if 
 this is one of them...
  
 Can't read the father's first name.
  

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719_item1/P117.html
  
 Thank you,
 Fawn Silva
 St. Louis, MO


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results

2013-11-04 Thread Frederick Souza
this is basic science.  

Your DNA is only 50% from one parent, and that goes back forever.  So the mixes 
keep happening.  Just like one brother can have blue eyes and blonde hair and 
the other one green eyes and brown hair, none of us (except identical twins) 
have the same DNA.  However, if the preponderence is of one and that is true of 
someone else, you are probably related through one parent (sometimes in 
Portuguese and other European lineages, through both because second and third 
cousins often married) which is not illegal (even in the US) and rarely leads 
to birth defects or genetic disease like cystic fibrosis (which comes from DNA 
that is too much alike and may carry recessive genes that when combined are no 
longer recessive but become dominant)  Perhaps someone can clarify for me how 
the DNA genealogy test works since it would appear the only way to get much of 
a clear lineage is if there is a preponderence of similar genes.

Fred
On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:09 PM, his...@aol.com wrote:

  
  
  
  
 Cheri,
  
 Amusing and confusing!  When I talked to you on the phone, I asked if it 
 would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I assumed we 
 would be identical, and you said it might be different.  You were right. I 
 have 97.59% Western European and 2.41% Africa.  My brother has 86.76.% 
 Western Europe and 13.24% Middle Eastern (Northern Africa)  On the map, my 
 Africa is in the French West Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana 
 and Nigeria.  and the southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and 
 Kenya.  It even list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). Bantu 
 Kenya, Bantu So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka.   My brother doesn't list 
 any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern.  As far as I know all my 
 grandparents were Portuguese, except I don't know about my grandfathers 
 parents.  I'm assuming his mother was Portuguese, but his father could have 
 been some seaman on a ship that docked in Angra.  My grandfather had blue 
 eyes.
  
 I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff.  All I wanted was to find 
 my grandfathers incognito's
  
 Helen Salvador
 Fremont, CA
 -Original Message-
 From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
 To: azores azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am
 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
 
 Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish, and 
 Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the reference 
 population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until they roll out 
 the new Population Finder with more reference populations, there not much to 
 say about the Population Finder, except that it is amusing. Cheri
 On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome cnsp...@aol.com wrote:
 Doug,
  
 I keep trying to figure it out too.  I came out 99.23% French.
 My fathers parents were from the Azores.  His mother's side had some Flemish 
 names.
 My mothers parents were Irish and English.
 I guessed maybe the Irish were from France.
 I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in there 
 from a distant cousin.  Along that line the Basque provinces are in France 
 and Spain.
  
 I now have kinder thoughts about the French.  Genealogy is humbling.  I guess 
 it goes to what part of the DNA we inherited.
  
 Pat Nostrome
 Irvine, California
  
 -Original Message-
 From: pico p...@dholmes.com
 To: azores azores@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results
 
 My father's came up as 93% Spanish.
 Mine is 97% French.
 
 Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I suppose 
 when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French. Interesting math: 
 Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French.
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria - Andrade

2013-11-04 Thread Denis Meals
Probably 4 for his time period, the fifth - Almagreira, appearing in the
very early 1900's.

Steve-  for any realistic help, you'll have to get back to pre-1883, for
that is the end date of the Mormon filming, from which most of us work.
 That said, the surname Andrade is quite common in Santa Bárbara Parish, so
parental information is also necessary.  In genealogy, more information is
always helpful.
Denis




On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steve A,

 Start with this how to guide here:
 http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/HowTo.html

 Then post back and tell you what you've done.  You need the freguesia to
 begin researching over there.  Santa Maria has 4 or 5 freguesias
 (villages), I believe (going off the top of my head here).

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna results

2013-11-04 Thread TheMOM8682
Fred  all others reading his post,
 
Basically what you have written is true. However, as a registered nurse who 
 cares for neonates in the ICU, I have to clarify what you said about 
cousins  marrying rarely leading to birth defects or genetic diseases.  While 
there  may be many times that such problems do not occur, at some point the  
intermarrying does lead to birth defects or genetic diseases often in the  
form of inborn errors of metabolism or other obscure defects that are not  
obviously apparent to the casual observer.  Sometimes these defects do  
not declare themselves for a couple of generations.  
 
Lisa
 
 
In a message dated 11/4/2013 7:21:13 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
fsouz...@comcast.net writes:

this is  basic science.


Your DNA is only 50% from one parent, and that goes back forever.  So the 
mixes keep happening.  Just like one brother can have blue  eyes and blonde 
hair and the other one green eyes and brown hair, none of us  (except 
identical twins) have the same DNA.  However, if the  preponderence is of one 
and 
that is true of someone else, you are probably  related through one parent 
(sometimes in Portuguese and other European  lineages, through both because 
second and third cousins often married) which  is not illegal (even in the US) 
and rarely leads to birth defects or genetic  disease like cystic fibrosis 
(which comes from DNA that is too much alike and  may carry recessive genes 
that when combined are no longer recessive but  become dominant)  Perhaps 
someone can clarify for me how the DNA  genealogy test works since it would 
appear the only way to get much of a clear  lineage is if there is a 
preponderence of similar genes.


Fred

On Nov 3, 2013, at 8:09 PM, _hisalv@aol.com_ (mailto:his...@aol.com)  wrote:



 




Cheri,
 
 
 
 
 
 

Amusing and confusing!  When I talked to you on the phone, I asked  if it 
would be useless to test my brother with family finder, because I  assumed we 
would be identical, and you said it might be  different.  You were right. I 
have 97.59% Western European and 2.41%  Africa.  My brother has 86.76.% 
Western Europe and 13.24% Middle  Eastern (Northern Africa)  On the map, my 
Africa is in the French West  Africa including Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast Ghana 
and Nigeria.  and the  southern part including South Africa, Mozambique and 
Kenya.  It even  list the African tribes (if that's what their called?). 
Bantu Kenya, Bantu  So. Africa, Biaka Pygmy and Mandenka.   My brother doesn't 
list  any of these, and I don't have any Middle Eastern.  As far as I know  
all my grandparents were Portuguese, except I don't know about my  
grandfathers parents.  I'm assuming his mother was Portuguese, but his  father 
could 
have been some seaman on a ship that docked in Angra.  My  grandfather had 
blue eyes.
 
I don,t think I'll every understand this DNA stuff.  All I wanted  was to 
find my grandfathers incognito's
 
Helen Salvador
Fremont, CA


-Original  Message-
From: Cheri Mello _gfscherim@gmail.com_ (mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com) 
To: azores  _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) 
Sent:  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:39 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Dna  results


Pat N, The 4 reference populations used are: French, Basque, Spanish,  and 
Orkney Islands (off of Scotland). There is NO Portuguese in the  reference 
population. I think Portuguese Azoreans get put wherever. Until  they roll 
out the new Population Finder with more reference populations,  there not much 
to say about the Population Finder, except that it is  amusing. Cheri
On Nov 3, 2013 10:34 AM, Chuck Nostrome _cnsport@aol.com_ 
(mailto:cnsp...@aol.com)  wrote:

Doug,
 
I keep trying to figure it out too.  I came out 99.23%  French.
My fathers parents were from the Azores.  His mother's side had  some 
Flemish names.
My mothers parents were Irish and English.
I guessed maybe the Irish were from France.
I heard a story that our Anselmo Vieiras had Basque or Spanish Jew in  
there from a distant cousin.  Along that line the Basque provinces  are in 
France and Spain.
 
I now have kinder thoughts about the French.  Genealogy is  humbling.  I 
guess it goes to what part of the DNA we  inherited.
 
Pat Nostrome
Irvine, California
 


-Original  Message-
From: pico _pico@dholmes.com_ (mailto:p...@dholmes.com) 
To: azores  _azores@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) 
Sent:  Sat, Nov 2, 2013 1:43 pm
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree  Dna results


 
My father's came up as 93% Spanish.
Mine is 97% French.


Since my mother is 50% German, about 25% Hungarian and 25% Slovak, I  
suppose when mixed with my father's Spanish, that equals French.  Interesting 
math: Spanish + German/Hungarian/Slovak = French.















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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria - Andrade

2013-11-04 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Hi Denis and Steve,
 
Denis, for some reason I only see part of your message to Steve but no Andrade 
names or dates.
 
I have some Santa Maria Andrade's behind my great grandmother, Catarina Cabral, 
born 1852 in Almagreira to Maria Isabel Moreira and Jose Inacio Cabral married 
Jan. 31, 1849.
 
Behind Jose is:
Valerio Andrade married to Barbara Laurencia I have no dates except his 
daughter married in 1812.
 
Behind Maria Isabel are a couple more:
Matias Andrade married to Francisca Andrade...their daughter married in 1751.
 
In that same generation:
Isabel de Andrade married to Francisco Velho Dias. I have no dates for their 
daughters marriage.
 
I anxiously await the Santa Maria records.
 
Nancy Jean 
 
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:21:34 -0800
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Maria - Andrade
From: deni...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Probably 4 for his time period, the fifth - Almagreira, appearing in the very 
early 1900's.
Steve-  for any realistic help, you'll have to get back to pre-1883, for that 
is the end date of the Mormon filming, from which most of us work.  That said, 
the surname Andrade is quite common in Santa Bárbara Parish, so parental 
information is also necessary.  In genealogy, more information is always 
helpful.
Denis 



On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

Steve A,
Start with this how to guide here: 
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/HowTo.html




Then post back and tell you what you've done.  You need the freguesia to begin 
researching over there.  Santa Maria has 4 or 5 freguesias (villages), I 
believe (going off the top of my head here).



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mormons

2013-11-04 Thread Cheri Mello
Jose A.M,

When the Genealogy Society of Utah (GSU as they were called back in the
day) negotiated the contract and went to the Azores, it was in the
mid-1980s.  They went to the archives to film.  The archives hold all
records except those for the last 100 years.  Those are held by the Civil
Registry.  So, in the 1980s, they could film up to about the 1880s, more or
less.  Some island got filmed up to the 1870s.  It depends on what books
were shipped from the Civil Registries and were cataloged by the archive at
the time of filming.

No contracts have been renegotiated by Family Search (as they are now
called) and the Azorean government. (to my knowledge).  But the records are
slowing coming on line up to about 1910 or so.  So we have to wait for the
Azorean government to bridge the gap between the 1870s/1880s time period
and 1910, or hire a researcher for those records.

Cheri Mello
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Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GeneWeb to Gedcom

2013-11-04 Thread Cheri Mello
Freddy G,

I'm not sure what you mean by GeneWeb.  Is your genealogy in the cloud?
There should be a command of File Export and you can create a Gedcom that
way.

Ancestral Quest was supposed to be the next program after PAF.

Everyone will tell you that their program is the best, of course!  The 4
most popular genealogy software programs on the market (for a PC) are
Family Tree Maker (FTM) by Ancestry.com (no free trial), Legacy Family Tree
(their standard edition is free), RootsMagic (their Essentials is free),
and The Master Genealogist (TMG) which is free for a 30 day trial period.

Download Legacy, RM, and TMG and play with them all.  Make up some people
(George Washington, Bugs Bunny), have Daisy Duck married to Donald and a
child by Bugs Bunny and see how the software handles it.  Have people with
the same name (3 or 4 George Washingtons - one born 1722, another born
1799, another born 1850, and the last one born 1900 and see how to
distinguish between them all).

Legacy has a fairly intuitive interface and is pretty powerful.  RM has the
smallest learning curve and has a portability option (RootsMagic to Go)
with their paid version.  TMG has the largest learning curve, is the most
powerful, is completely customizable and has really good filters for
handing people of the same name.

When I give my Genealogy Software Review speech, I tell those who are
nervous computer users to try RM first (Essentials) and see how they like
it.  I tell people who don't want to spend too much time learning a program
but want it to do more to try Legacy.  I tell people who are annoyed that
their program won't do this or that and who are comfortable with the
computer to try out TMG.  Because FTM doesn't have a free trial it's hard
to say what to do with that program.  If you go to your local genealogy
society, someone probably has it and can show you what it looks like and
what is does.

I belong to a Users Group for my genealogy software program.  People come
to our meetings who are checking out the other programs because they don't
like the one that they are currently using.  See if there are any User
Groups in your area.  RM, Legacy, and TMG has a User Groups tab on their
respective web sites.



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GeneWeb to Gedcom

2013-11-04 Thread Marilyn Thompson
I agree with Cheri, try out the sample programs. I however am an Ancestral
Quest user. There is a free version of AQ available online to download. It
is usable, but does not include all of the goodies that come with the
full version.

I am biased because AQ is written by a friend of mine. He is the one that
originally wrote the PAF program.

On the AQ website, I believe there is a place to email questions or a phone
number to call with questions.

Marilyn


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 Freddy G,

 I'm not sure what you mean by GeneWeb.  Is your genealogy in the cloud?
 There should be a command of File Export and you can create a Gedcom that
 way.

 Ancestral Quest was supposed to be the next program after PAF.

 Everyone will tell you that their program is the best, of course!  The 4
 most popular genealogy software programs on the market (for a PC) are
 Family Tree Maker (FTM) by Ancestry.com (no free trial), Legacy Family Tree
 (their standard edition is free), RootsMagic (their Essentials is free),
 and The Master Genealogist (TMG) which is free for a 30 day trial period.

 Download Legacy, RM, and TMG and play with them all.  Make up some people
 (George Washington, Bugs Bunny), have Daisy Duck married to Donald and a
 child by Bugs Bunny and see how the software handles it.  Have people with
 the same name (3 or 4 George Washingtons - one born 1722, another born
 1799, another born 1850, and the last one born 1900 and see how to
 distinguish between them all).

 Legacy has a fairly intuitive interface and is pretty powerful.  RM has
 the smallest learning curve and has a portability option (RootsMagic to Go)
 with their paid version.  TMG has the largest learning curve, is the most
 powerful, is completely customizable and has really good filters for
 handing people of the same name.

 When I give my Genealogy Software Review speech, I tell those who are
 nervous computer users to try RM first (Essentials) and see how they like
 it.  I tell people who don't want to spend too much time learning a program
 but want it to do more to try Legacy.  I tell people who are annoyed that
 their program won't do this or that and who are comfortable with the
 computer to try out TMG.  Because FTM doesn't have a free trial it's hard
 to say what to do with that program.  If you go to your local genealogy
 society, someone probably has it and can show you what it looks like and
 what is does.

 I belong to a Users Group for my genealogy software program.  People come
 to our meetings who are checking out the other programs because they don't
 like the one that they are currently using.  See if there are any User
 Groups in your area.  RM, Legacy, and TMG has a User Groups tab on their
 respective web sites.



 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mormons

2013-11-04 Thread Jose A Medeiros
Thank you Cheri for the reply

On Monday, 4 November 2013 17:35:12 UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Jose A.M,

 When the Genealogy Society of Utah (GSU as they were called back in the 
 day) negotiated the contract and went to the Azores, it was in the 
 mid-1980s.  They went to the archives to film.  The archives hold all 
 records except those for the last 100 years.  Those are held by the Civil 
 Registry.  So, in the 1980s, they could film up to about the 1880s, more or 
 less.  Some island got filmed up to the 1870s.  It depends on what books 
 were shipped from the Civil Registries and were cataloged by the archive at 
 the time of filming.

 No contracts have been renegotiated by Family Search (as they are now 
 called) and the Azorean government. (to my knowledge).  But the records are 
 slowing coming on line up to about 1910 or so.  So we have to wait for the 
 Azorean government to bridge the gap between the 1870s/1880s time period 
 and 1910, or hire a researcher for those records.

 Cheri Mello
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 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GeneWeb to Gedcom

2013-11-04 Thread Maria Lima
Cheri: 

I was thinking he could use the familysearch.org then register to use family 
tree right on that website.  Now you can download pictures and they keep on 
improving it; it's free and any one in the world can connect with his line.  

Maybe I'm missing something here but I stopped using legacy and PAF.  

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 4, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Freddy G,
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by GeneWeb.  Is your genealogy in the cloud?  
 There should be a command of File Export and you can create a Gedcom that 
 way.  
 
 Ancestral Quest was supposed to be the next program after PAF.
 
 Everyone will tell you that their program is the best, of course!  The 4 most 
 popular genealogy software programs on the market (for a PC) are Family Tree 
 Maker (FTM) by Ancestry.com (no free trial), Legacy Family Tree (their 
 standard edition is free), RootsMagic (their Essentials is free), and The 
 Master Genealogist (TMG) which is free for a 30 day trial period.  
 
 Download Legacy, RM, and TMG and play with them all.  Make up some people 
 (George Washington, Bugs Bunny), have Daisy Duck married to Donald and a 
 child by Bugs Bunny and see how the software handles it.  Have people with 
 the same name (3 or 4 George Washingtons - one born 1722, another born 1799, 
 another born 1850, and the last one born 1900 and see how to distinguish 
 between them all).
 
 Legacy has a fairly intuitive interface and is pretty powerful.  RM has the 
 smallest learning curve and has a portability option (RootsMagic to Go) with 
 their paid version.  TMG has the largest learning curve, is the most 
 powerful, is completely customizable and has really good filters for handing 
 people of the same name.  
 
 When I give my Genealogy Software Review speech, I tell those who are nervous 
 computer users to try RM first (Essentials) and see how they like it.  I tell 
 people who don't want to spend too much time learning a program but want it 
 to do more to try Legacy.  I tell people who are annoyed that their program 
 won't do this or that and who are comfortable with the computer to try out 
 TMG.  Because FTM doesn't have a free trial it's hard to say what to do with 
 that program.  If you go to your local genealogy society, someone probably 
 has it and can show you what it looks like and what is does.
 
 I belong to a Users Group for my genealogy software program.  People come to 
 our meetings who are checking out the other programs because they don't like 
 the one that they are currently using.  See if there are any User Groups in 
 your area.  RM, Legacy, and TMG has a User Groups tab on their respective web 
 sites.
 
 
 
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
 Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GeneWeb to Gedcom

2013-11-04 Thread Cheri Mello
Maria L,

When Freddy posted about computer programs, I responded with computer
programs.  He didn't ask for cloud-based programs.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help w/Father's Name on Topo Baptism

2013-11-04 Thread Fawn Silva
Thank you so much Manoel and Isabella.  I'm glad you could read it!!

Fawn Silva
St. Louis, MO


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Isabella Baltar
myportuguese...@gmail.comwrote:

 Good morning Fawn,

 Yes, Matheus Silveira is the father and Maria de Souza the mother.

 She was  born 28 May 1710 and baptized on the 1 Jun 1710..

 Isabella Baltar
 myportuguesegen.blogspot.com


 On Monday, November 4, 2013 12:28:50 AM UTC-5, 2si...@gmail.com wrote:

 If anyone has a minute to check out this baptismal record for Maria
 daughter of __ Silveira and Maria de Souza.  I am looking for
 children of Mateus Silveira Agueda and Maria de Sousa and am wondering if
 this is one of them...

 Can't read the father's first name.

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
 CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719/SJR-CH-TOPO-B-1704-1719_item1/P117.html

 Thank you,
 Fawn Silva
 St. Louis, MO

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes.....Salanca? Is it a name or a place?

2013-11-04 Thread Terri
I was searching on the CCA site for a death record for someone in my 
Ginetes line.  I thought I had the right person but now I see another word/ 
name in the documents after his name that makes me wonder. I have a 
marriage record for Manuel de Sousa Carvalho x Anna da Estrella . But 
in the death record I found, I read  'Manuel Carvalho Salanca' who 
was married to Anna de Estrella .Sometimes I am seeing ' Lomba' after some 
names and I assume this is a place but is there an area of Ginetes called ' 
Salanca?'   or could this be a last name and maybe I have the wrong death 
record.
 
Terri Santos
researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca Sao Pedro and 
Sao Miguel, 
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ginetes.....Salanca? Is it a name or a place?

2013-11-04 Thread Altino Demelo
Terri, I tried google translate and my Portuguese English dictionary and 
couldn't find a translation for that word.

I have an Amaro Cardoso m. to Catarina de Carvalho (or Ferreira) [my 9th great 
grandparents]
No parents for him, but Catarina's parents were Gaspar de Carvalho and Isabel 
Ferreira.

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 I was searching on the CCA site for a death record for someone in my Ginetes 
 line.  I thought I had the right person but now I see another word/ name in 
 the documents after his name that makes me wonder. I have a marriage record 
 for Manuel de Sousa Carvalho x Anna da Estrella . But in the death record I 
 found, I read  'Manuel Carvalho Salanca' who was married to Anna de Estrella 
 .Sometimes I am seeing ' Lomba' after some names and I assume this is a place 
 but is there an area of Ginetes called ' Salanca?'   or could this be a last 
 name and maybe I have the wrong death record.
  
 Terri Santos
 researching Agua d'Alto, Agua de Pau, Ginetes, Vila Franca Sao Pedro and Sao 
 Miguel,
  
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