[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Godfather José de Sousa, Santa Bárbara, Santa Maria

[Helda Pritchard]

I cant make out the first word after his name but soltairo means he is 
single. Creado de servir is like a butler or domestic help 

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:44:08 PM UTC-5, sm figueiredo wrote:
>
> I am in need of help with the word immediately following Godfather José de 
> Sousa, _,which I presume is his occupation, and the expression 
> following solteiro, "creado de servir"...  
>
> Lines 2-4, top left page
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1880-1889/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1880-1889_item1/P107.html
>
> The occupation, I can not quite make out the letters, and creado de servir 
>  does not seem to make sense in translating to english.
>
> Thanks,
> Denis
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Godfather José de Sousa, Santa Bárbara, Santa Maria

[Helda Pritchard]

okay I think I got it Jose de Sousa, confessed (as in had gone to 
confession), single, domestic help/servant/butler (creado de servir)
Hope this helps.
H

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:44:08 PM UTC-5, sm figueiredo wrote:
>
> I am in need of help with the word immediately following Godfather José de 
> Sousa, _,which I presume is his occupation, and the expression 
> following solteiro, "creado de servir"...  
>
> Lines 2-4, top left page
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1880-1889/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1880-1889_item1/P107.html
>
> The occupation, I can not quite make out the letters, and creado de servir 
>  does not seem to make sense in translating to english.
>
> Thanks,
> Denis
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[Helda Pritchard]

My Uncle is from S. Jorge. 

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:26:33 AM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>
> You haven't said where your uncle was from
>
>
> MITCHELL   LAURA   PERRY   1879   10   15  MONIZ   FEMALE   RE   
> ALAMEDA   1943   03   04  63   308622 
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Helda Pritchard 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been 
>> doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help 
>> find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked 
>> about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was 
>> older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the 
>> states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was 
>> living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited 
>> her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the 
>> back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their 
>> Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my 
>> uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why.
>> Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age 
>> and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would 
>> be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be 
>> coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing 
>> family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then 
>> her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would 
>> be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers 
>> side. The woman I think could be the missing Laura is in some records 
>> listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was 
>> married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in Glouchester Mass and had 
>> several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel. 
>>  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda California. 
>> Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is 
>> the right one. 
>>
>> I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
>> Helda
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[luiznoia .]

Helda,

You are getting a lot of help here, that may be wasted time because you are
withholding the most important piece of information.

What are you uncle's  parents names and birthdates?  With that we can
verify  a connection to whatever Laura we are looking for.

Eric Edgar


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:41 AM, Helda Pritchard <
heldapritchard22...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John,
> That is part of my problem. The biological father is from Riberia Sica, S.
> Jorge. However from the information Laura was not born on the island. As
> for her birthdate again no clue I know the biological father was born in
> 1845 and the half brother was born in 1892.
> The Laura Moniz/ Mitchell I found that I think may be the one
> unfortunately has several birthdates listed on US Census and in the end her
> death certificate ranging from the dates 1868 -1880. On most of the census
> her birthplace  it ranges from Azores to Westward Islands. However on the
> oldest sons birth registry it says Pico for both Frank P Mitchell and Laura.
>  Again my search is a total shot in the dark.
> My Uncle (by marriage) was asking because I have at least 7 generations
> back for both my parent maternal and paternal side with copies of marriage
> and death certificates (thanks to technology). A lot of it is because both
> my parents or from Sao Jorge and we only immigrated when I was a young
> child and my parent knew a lot of verbal history.
> Thanks for any help.
> H
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:40:18 AM UTC-5, John Raposo wrote:
>
>> Helda,
>> LL
>> Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know where
>> in the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even
>> guesses will be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not
>> matches. Thanks!
>>
>> John M. raposo
>>   On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard <
>> heldaprit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been
>> doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help
>> find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked
>> about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was
>> older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the
>> states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was
>> living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited
>> her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the
>> back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their
>> Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my
>> uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why.
>> Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age
>> and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would
>> be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be
>> coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing
>> family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then
>> her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would
>> be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers
>> side. The woman I think could be the missing Laura is in some records
>> listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was
>> married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in Glouchester Mass and had
>> several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel.
>>  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda California.
>> Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is
>> the right one.
>>
>> I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
>> Helda
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[Helda Pritchard]

Thank you so much for everyone's help. This still may be my Laura that I am 
looking for. The biological father is from Soa Jorge and not the father 
listed on the birth certificate. I could also be chasing lots of 
coincidences. I think the only way I will be able to verify the laura i am 
looking for is by finding a living relative and posting the photo I have of 
 the two oldest sons. 
I am on Family Search.org and that is how I found most of those records. 
Thank you for the people who found the additional information. I really 
appreciate everyones work.


On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:23:35 PM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>
>
>
>
> MITCHELL   JOHN   P   1899   04   13   MUNIZ   
>   MALE   MA   STANISLAUS   1969   09   10  70   3629541 
> MITCHELL   ARTHUR   P   1904   04   11 
> MALE   MA   ALAMEDA1976   09   12  72   4865722  
>  MITCHELL   JOSEPH   PERRY   1896   12   03   MUNIZ   MITCHELL   MALE   MA 
>   ALAMEDA1944   04   17  47   401493 
> MITCHELL   MANUEL   P   1907   01   24   MUNIZ 
>   MALE   MA   ALAMEDA1981   12   16 74   5792053  
> MENDONCA   LENORA  1899   07   29   MONIZ   MITCHELL   FEMALE   MA 
>   ALAMEDA1953   01   06 53   1323966 
> MITCHELL   ANTHONY   PERRY   1901   02   19   MONIZ   MITCHELL   MALE   MA 
>   ALAMEDA   1957   07   18  56   1801969 
>
>
> MITCHELL   FRANK   P   1894   08   15   MONIZ  MALE   MA   SOLANO   
> 1968   08   0473   3458200 
>
> 1941 Oakland city directory- Mrs  Laura M  Mitchell  on Buena Vists Ave 
> https://archive.org/stream/polksoaklandcali1941rlpo#page/663/mode/1up
>   Manuel P Mitchell on Kennedey St
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:03 AM, luiznoia . 
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> From the CCA- Laureana, it starts at bottom left, then to top next page
>>
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P24.html
>>
>> From the NEPS site, relating to this family group
>>
>>
>> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=pt;p=jose;n=moniz;oc=1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Me, too and I hope we have found Helda's "Laura". It is possible that 
>>> Laura's Dad had a first marriage.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:19 PM, "E" Sharp" 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> One of her US records says her parents were Joseph and Isabelle so that 
>>> seems to go with what you have found and the birth year you listed is 
>>> comparable with US records as well as the name Laureana on a census 
>>> record.  My hunch tells me this is her.  Maybe their family stories of her 
>>> legitimacy were incorrect.  Lord knows I have had plenty of family stories 
>>> in my own research that didn't pan out.   
>>>
>>> Helda,  Are you looking for living relatives??  if you want further 
>>> info, please email me privately.  
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>>
>>> Laureana was born in Lajes do Pico. I looked up the birth record and 
>>> there there is nothing there to indicate that the parents were not married. 
>>> And, it also says the father was from Lajes, mother was from Ribeiras, so 
>>> although we probably have the right Laura, she may not be Helda's Laura.
>>>
>>>  John
>>>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:49 AM, "E" Sharp" 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Helda,
>>>
>>> It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery 
>>> in Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed 
>>> as Laureana on one of the census records so it looks like John has found 
>>> her in Pico.  I am sure someone on the list can help you find her birth 
>>> record at the CCA site.
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[Helda Pritchard]

Thank you everyone but since this  is the Laura that I thought it might 
have been however thanks to the hard work of some of the people on this 
board who found her wedding certificate that had her parents name and then 
the birth certificate it proves it is not the Laura I was looking for. Just 
a lot of good coincidences,
Thank you again everyone for the help will have to try another Laura.

Helda

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:23:35 PM UTC-5, luiznoia wrote:
>
>
>
>
> MITCHELL   JOHN   P   1899   04   13   MUNIZ   
>   MALE   MA   STANISLAUS   1969   09   10  70   3629541 
> MITCHELL   ARTHUR   P   1904   04   11 
> MALE   MA   ALAMEDA1976   09   12  72   4865722  
>  MITCHELL   JOSEPH   PERRY   1896   12   03   MUNIZ   MITCHELL   MALE   MA 
>   ALAMEDA1944   04   17  47   401493 
> MITCHELL   MANUEL   P   1907   01   24   MUNIZ 
>   MALE   MA   ALAMEDA1981   12   16 74   5792053  
> MENDONCA   LENORA  1899   07   29   MONIZ   MITCHELL   FEMALE   MA 
>   ALAMEDA1953   01   06 53   1323966 
> MITCHELL   ANTHONY   PERRY   1901   02   19   MONIZ   MITCHELL   MALE   MA 
>   ALAMEDA   1957   07   18  56   1801969 
>
>
> MITCHELL   FRANK   P   1894   08   15   MONIZ  MALE   MA   SOLANO   
> 1968   08   0473   3458200 
>
> 1941 Oakland city directory- Mrs  Laura M  Mitchell  on Buena Vists Ave 
> https://archive.org/stream/polksoaklandcali1941rlpo#page/663/mode/1up
>   Manuel P Mitchell on Kennedey St
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:03 AM, luiznoia . 
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> From the CCA- Laureana, it starts at bottom left, then to top next page
>>
>>
>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P24.html
>>
>> From the NEPS site, relating to this family group
>>
>>
>> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=pt;p=jose;n=moniz;oc=1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>> Me, too and I hope we have found Helda's "Laura". It is possible that 
>>> Laura's Dad had a first marriage.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:19 PM, "E" Sharp" 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> One of her US records says her parents were Joseph and Isabelle so that 
>>> seems to go with what you have found and the birth year you listed is 
>>> comparable with US records as well as the name Laureana on a census 
>>> record.  My hunch tells me this is her.  Maybe their family stories of her 
>>> legitimacy were incorrect.  Lord knows I have had plenty of family stories 
>>> in my own research that didn't pan out.   
>>>
>>> Helda,  Are you looking for living relatives??  if you want further 
>>> info, please email me privately.  
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>>
>>> Laureana was born in Lajes do Pico. I looked up the birth record and 
>>> there there is nothing there to indicate that the parents were not married. 
>>> And, it also says the father was from Lajes, mother was from Ribeiras, so 
>>> although we probably have the right Laura, she may not be Helda's Laura.
>>>
>>>  John
>>>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:49 AM, "E" Sharp" 
>>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>> Helda,
>>>
>>> It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery 
>>> in Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed 
>>> as Laureana on one of the census records so it looks like John has found 
>>> her in Pico.  I am sure someone on the list can help you find her birth 
>>> record at the CCA site.
>>>
>>> "E"
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Source for purchasing Rodrigo Rodrigues' books

[Cheri Mello]

Erica B,

They might be in print, but not available in the U.S.  I seem to remember
them being $400 or $500 USD.

Cheri


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audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a source for purchasing Rodrigo Rodrigues’ books in
> the U.S.?  I would like to ask my husband for one for my birthday (since I
> am researching his paternal family I am hoping he will like the idea).  Are
> they still in print? Are they available outside of the Azores?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Erica Botelho
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bad link/ file directory not found

[Cheri Mello]

Tammy M-J,

They all work for me.  Maybe you need to clear your cache, cookies, etc.

I accessed them at 9:43 pm PDT on a PC with Mozilla's Firefox.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] FW: What surname is getz an abbreviation for

[Erica Botelho]

 

Is getz another abbreviation for Gonzalves, along with Glz, or is it
shorthand for something else?

 

I meant LEFT side bottom entry is the record I am looking at.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1
701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P96.html

 

Thank you,

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[AZORES-Genealogy] What surname is getz an abbreviation for

[Erica Botelho]

Is getz another abbreviation for Gonzalves, along with Glz, or is it
shorthand for something else?

 

Right side bottom entry is the record I am looking at.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1
701/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1630-1701_item1/P96.html

 

Thank you,

Erica Botelho

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Godfather José de Sousa, Santa Bárbara, Santa Maria

[Denis Meals]

I am in need of help with the word immediately following Godfather José de
Sousa, _,which I presume is his occupation, and the expression
following solteiro, "creado de servir"...

Lines 2-4, top left page
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1880-1889/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-B-1880-1889_item1/P107.html

The occupation, I can not quite make out the letters, and creado de servir
 does not seem to make sense in translating to english.

Thanks,
Denis

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Wanderley in Brasil

[pico]

I'm not sure if there is a person on this list named Wanderley, but it's a unique name that I remember from somewhere years ago from a genealogist in Brasil.So today I was looking through records of Brasil and found an Henrique Wanderley and wife Isabel whose daughter Sarah was married.If you are interested, let me know.I think the reason I remember it was that this Wanderley genealogist has Piedade, Pico ancestors and is probably somehow related to me.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Source for purchasing Rodrigo Rodrigues' books

[Erica Botelho]

Does anyone know of a source for purchasing Rodrigo Rodrigues' books in the
U.S.?  I would like to ask my husband for one for my birthday (since I am
researching his paternal family I am hoping he will like the idea).  Are
they still in print? Are they available outside of the Azores?

 

Thank you,

Erica Botelho

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bad link/ file directory not found

[pico]

Tammy,I also saw that.What you must do is study how the URL is listed on working records. Then use that same system and replace the wrong dates with the right dates and all your records will now be available to you.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


 Original Message 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bad link/ file directory not found
From: Tygerzgirl1976 
Date: Wed, May 21, 2014 11:00 am
To: "azores@googlegroups.com" 

Hi all

I've been buried deep in the Graciosa baptisms however the one book I really need to see is 1890-1902 and I can't open it. Wondering if it's just me?? 

Tammy Medeiros-Jesso 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Bad link/ file directory not found

[Tygerzgirl1976]

Hi all

I've been buried deep in the Graciosa baptisms however the one book I really 
need to see is 1890-1902 and I can't open it. Wondering if it's just me?? 

Tammy Medeiros-Jesso 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[luiznoia .]

>From the CCA- Laureana, it starts at bottom left, then to top next page

http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P24.html

>From the NEPS site, relating to this family group

http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=pt;p=jose;n=moniz;oc=1












On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Me, too and I hope we have found Helda's "Laura". It is possible that
> Laura's Dad had a first marriage.
>
> John
>
>   On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:19 PM, "E" Sharp" 
> wrote:
>
>
> John,
>
> One of her US records says her parents were Joseph and Isabelle so that
> seems to go with what you have found and the birth year you listed is
> comparable with US records as well as the name Laureana on a census
> record.  My hunch tells me this is her.  Maybe their family stories of her
> legitimacy were incorrect.  Lord knows I have had plenty of family stories
> in my own research that didn't pan out.
>
> Helda,  Are you looking for living relatives??  if you want further info,
> please email me privately.
>
> "E"
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Laureana was born in Lajes do Pico. I looked up the birth record and there
> there is nothing there to indicate that the parents were not married. And,
> it also says the father was from Lajes, mother was from Ribeiras, so
> although we probably have the right Laura, she may not be Helda's Laura.
>
> John
>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:49 AM, "E" Sharp" 
> wrote:
>
>
> Helda,
>
> It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery in
> Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed as
> Laureana on one of the census records so it looks like John has found her
> in Pico.  I am sure someone on the list can help you find her birth record
> at the CCA site.
>
> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[Helda Pritchard]

Hi John,
That is part of my problem. The biological father is from Riberia Sica, S. 
Jorge. However from the information Laura was not born on the island. As 
for her birthdate again no clue I know the biological father was born in 
1845 and the half brother was born in 1892. 
The Laura Moniz/ Mitchell I found that I think may be the one unfortunately 
has several birthdates listed on US Census and in the end her death 
certificate ranging from the dates 1868 -1880. On most of the census her 
birthplace  it ranges from Azores to Westward Islands. However on the 
oldest sons birth registry it says Pico for both Frank P Mitchell and Laura.
 Again my search is a total shot in the dark. 
My Uncle (by marriage) was asking because I have at least 7 generations 
back for both my parent maternal and paternal side with copies of marriage 
and death certificates (thanks to technology). A lot of it is because both 
my parents or from Sao Jorge and we only immigrated when I was a young 
child and my parent knew a lot of verbal history.
Thanks for any help.
H

 
On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:40:18 AM UTC-5, John Raposo wrote:

> Helda,
> LL
> Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know where 
> in the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even 
> guesses will be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not 
> matches. Thanks!
>
> John M. raposo
>   On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard <
> heldaprit...@gmail.com > wrote:
>  
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been 
> doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help 
> find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked 
> about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was 
> older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the 
> states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was 
> living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited 
> her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the 
> back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their 
> Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my 
> uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why.
> Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age 
> and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would 
> be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be 
> coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing 
> family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then 
> her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would 
> be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers 
> side. The woman I think could be the missing Laura is in some records 
> listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was 
> married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in Glouchester Mass and had 
> several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel. 
>  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda California. 
> Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is 
> the right one. 
>
> I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
> Helda
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge Island vital records index

['Frank or JoElayne Johnson' via Azores Genealogy]

Wow! That is so generous of you. Almost all of my known ancestors come from 
Ribeira Seca. I will have to check how far back my lines go. I need 
documentation!
 
JoElayne Ferre' Johnson




 From: Marilyn Thompson 
To: Cheri Mello  
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca, Sao Jorge Island vital records 
index
 


Thank you for that generous offer. I will have to check my Sao Jorge lines. I 
know some are in Ribeira Seca. I may not be back to the time periods you have 
extracted, but I will check

Marilyn



On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Repost for Suzanne, climbatree2 at gmail.com
>
>I have Sao Jorge Ribeira Seca marriages extracted from 1698 through a 
portion of 1767;  baptisms from 1623 through a portion of 1676; and some
 of the death records as well.
>
>If anyone has a need, contact me.   My goal is to eventually have all of 
>records in Calheta district extracted.
>
>Suzanne
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[luiznoia .]

MITCHELL   JOHN   P   1899   04   13   MUNIZ
  MALE   MA   STANISLAUS   1969   09   10  70   3629541
MITCHELL   ARTHUR   P   1904   04   11
MALE   MA   ALAMEDA1976   09   12  72   4865722
 MITCHELL   JOSEPH   PERRY   1896   12   03   MUNIZ   MITCHELL   MALE   MA
  ALAMEDA1944   04   17  47   401493
MITCHELL   MANUEL   P   1907   01   24   MUNIZ
  MALE   MA   ALAMEDA1981   12   16 74   5792053
MENDONCA   LENORA  1899   07   29   MONIZ   MITCHELL   FEMALE   MA
  ALAMEDA1953   01   06 53   1323966
MITCHELL   ANTHONY   PERRY   1901   02   19   MONIZ   MITCHELL   MALE   MA
  ALAMEDA   1957   07   18  56   1801969


MITCHELL   FRANK   P   1894   08   15   MONIZ  MALE   MA   SOLANO
1968   08   0473   3458200

1941 Oakland city directory- Mrs  Laura M  Mitchell  on Buena Vists Ave
https://archive.org/stream/polksoaklandcali1941rlpo#page/663/mode/1up
  Manuel P Mitchell on Kennedey St




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:03 AM, luiznoia .  wrote:

>
>
> From the CCA- Laureana, it starts at bottom left, then to top next page
>
>
> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1868-1875_item1/P24.html
>
> From the NEPS site, relating to this family group
>
>
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=Lajes;lang=pt;p=jose;n=moniz;oc=1
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:30 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Me, too and I hope we have found Helda's "Laura". It is possible that
>> Laura's Dad had a first marriage.
>>
>> John
>>
>>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:19 PM, "E" Sharp" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> John,
>>
>> One of her US records says her parents were Joseph and Isabelle so that
>> seems to go with what you have found and the birth year you listed is
>> comparable with US records as well as the name Laureana on a census
>> record.  My hunch tells me this is her.  Maybe their family stories of her
>> legitimacy were incorrect.  Lord knows I have had plenty of family stories
>> in my own research that didn't pan out.
>>
>> Helda,  Are you looking for living relatives??  if you want further info,
>> please email me privately.
>>
>> "E"
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Laureana was born in Lajes do Pico. I looked up the birth record and
>> there there is nothing there to indicate that the parents were not married.
>> And, it also says the father was from Lajes, mother was from Ribeiras, so
>> although we probably have the right Laura, she may not be Helda's Laura.
>>
>>  John
>>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:49 AM, "E" Sharp" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Helda,
>>
>> It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery
>> in Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed as
>> Laureana on one of the census records so it looks like John has found her
>> in Pico.  I am sure someone on the list can help you find her birth record
>> at the CCA site.
>>
>> "E"
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[luiznoia .]

You haven't said where your uncle was from


MITCHELL   LAURA   PERRY   1879   10   15  MONIZ   FEMALE   RE
ALAMEDA   1943   03   04  63   308622



On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Helda Pritchard <
heldapritchard22...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been
> doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help
> find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked
> about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was
> older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the
> states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was
> living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited
> her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the
> back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their
> Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my
> uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why.
> Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age
> and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would
> be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be
> coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing
> family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then
> her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would
> be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers
> side. The woman I think could be the missing Laura is in some records
> listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was
> married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in Glouchester Mass and had
> several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel.
>  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda California.
> Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is
> the right one.
>
> I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
> Helda
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['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

Me, too and I hope we have found Helda's "Laura". It is possible that Laura's 
Dad had a first marriage.

John


On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:19 PM, "E" Sharp"  wrote:
 


John,

One of her US records says her parents were Joseph and Isabelle so that seems 
to go with what you have found and the birth year you listed is comparable with 
US records as well as the name Laureana on a census record.  My hunch tells me 
this is her.  Maybe their family stories of her legitimacy were incorrect.  
Lord knows I have had plenty of family stories in my own research that didn't 
pan out.   

Helda,  Are you looking for living relatives??  if you want further info, 
please email me privately.  

"E"



On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

Laureana was born in Lajes do Pico. I looked up the birth record and there 
there is nothing there to indicate that the parents were not married. And, it 
also says the father was from Lajes, mother was from Ribeiras, so although we 
probably have the right Laura, she may not be Helda's Laura.
>
>
>John
>
>On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:49 AM, "E" Sharp"  wrote:
> 
>
>
>Helda,
>
>
>It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery in 
>Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed as Laureana 
>on one of the census records so it looks like John has found her in Pico.  I 
>am sure someone on the list can help you find her birth record at the CCA site.
>
>
>"E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

["E" Sharp]

John,

One of her US records says her parents were Joseph and Isabelle so that
seems to go with what you have found and the birth year you listed is
comparable with US records as well as the name Laureana on a census
record.  My hunch tells me this is her.  Maybe their family stories of her
legitimacy were incorrect.  Lord knows I have had plenty of family stories
in my own research that didn't pan out.

Helda,  Are you looking for living relatives??  if you want further info,
please email me privately.

"E"


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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Laureana was born in Lajes do Pico. I looked up the birth record and there
> there is nothing there to indicate that the parents were not married. And,
> it also says the father was from Lajes, mother was from Ribeiras, so
> although we probably have the right Laura, she may not be Helda's Laura.
>
> John
>   On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:49 AM, "E" Sharp" 
> wrote:
>
>
> Helda,
>
> It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery in
> Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed as
> Laureana on one of the census records so it looks like John has found her
> in Pico.  I am sure someone on the list can help you find her birth record
> at the CCA site.
>
> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

Laureana was born in Lajes do Pico. I looked up the birth record and there 
there is nothing there to indicate that the parents were not married. And, it 
also says the father was from Lajes, mother was from Ribeiras, so although we 
probably have the right Laura, she may not be Helda's Laura.

John

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:49 AM, "E" Sharp"  wrote:
 


Helda,

It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery in 
Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed as Laureana 
on one of the census records so it looks like John has found her in Pico.  I am 
sure someone on the list can help you find her birth record at the CCA site.


"E"



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[pico]

Hi Helda,Since your original quest was to find your uncle's aunt Laura, I think you accomplished your goal and might not have any further interest.But if you ever want to discover her as a passenger to the US, then I can tell you most from Pico departed from the port of Horta on the island of Faial (usually spelled Fayal in the records of that time). And the passport records of Horta are not yet available online. They are completely scanned and ready for posting, but they were given to the people who are responsible to upload them and that just hasn't been accomplished yet. When my brother was at the archive in Horta exactly a year ago, he was told to expect to see those records in a month, but that's long ago passed, of course.But that's not a surprise, because similarly, I got information two years ago this summer that all the Graciosa Island baptisms were scanned and to expect them to appear online in six more months. Well, just this week the last of the Graciosa baptisms got uploaded. So that again was a two year lag.Even though the passports are one online, it doesn't mean you can't find her on the passenger ship lists, assuming that matters to you. They have been online for a very long time. She might have arrived through Ellis Island, or maybe Providence, RI, or maybe also Boston. Those are the most likely three ports, but others are also possible.As for Laura's ancestors, I'm sure I could find them for you, but I haven't looked yet.Good luck.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my
uncle.
From: "\"E\" Sharp" 
Date: Wed, May 21, 2014 6:56 am
To: azores 

Helda,Frank P. MASON 24, and Laura A. MONIES 23, were married November 20, 1892, at Our Lady of Good Voyages Church in Gloucester by Father Francisco Viera de Bem.  They are both listed as born in Western Isles (Azores on census records).  His parents are Manuel P. and Mary.  Her parents are Joseph and Isabelle.  The 1910 census lists 11 children born, 7 living.  Joseph 14, Leonora 12, John 11, Anthony 9, Arthur 7, Manuel 3.  All the children born in Massachusetts.  I have also found them in 1920, 1930 and 1940 census Laura Mitchell is a widow.  Census records show she came to US 1887/1889 so it would be around that time.  I will try and find children birth record info to see if anything else is listed on her birthplace.  I will also try to find her on ship's manifest. You might try and get a copy of their marriage record from them to see if it may give more info on her birthplace.  You can google the church and their phone number/address are listed   They moved to CA between 1908 and 1920.   "E" On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Denis Meals  wrote: Helda:The San Francisco Genealogy California Death Index 1940-1997 lists the following, which you perhaps already know, since it confirms some of your posted information.                                           MITCHELL  LAURA  PERRY  03  04  1943  ALAMEDA  F  0  10  15  1879  OTHER COUNTRY    MONIZ Denis On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:40 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy  wrote:   Helda, Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know where in the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even guesses will be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not matches. Thanks!  John M. raposo On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard  wrote: Hello Everyone,I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why. Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers sid

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

["E" Sharp]

Helda,

It looks like many in this family are buried at Holy Supulchre Cemetery in
Hayward CA.  You can see stones at findagrave.com  Laura is listed as
Laureana on one of the census records so it looks like John has found her
in Pico.  I am sure someone on the list can help you find her birth record
at the CCA site.

"E"

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

This is the closest thing I found in Pico:

Laureana, born in Pico on 5 October 1868 to José Moniz and Isabel da Conceição 
Teresa.

Of course, if Laura's birth name was Maria, you are in for a very long search. 

Laura's father's name may be listed on the birth record. If both parents were 
single, the child would be listed as "filha natural", rather than "filha 
ilegítima". It seems she had a well established relationship with her father's 
side of the family.

Sorry I cannot be of more help.

John

On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:56 AM, "E" Sharp"  wrote:
 


Helda,

Frank P. MASON 24, and Laura A. MONIES 23, were married November 20, 1892, at 
Our Lady of Good Voyages Church in Gloucester by Father Francisco Viera de Bem. 
 They are both listed as born in Western Isles (Azores on census records).  His 
parents are Manuel P. and Mary.  Her parents are Joseph and Isabelle.  The 1910 
census lists 11 children born, 7 living.  Joseph 14, Leonora 12, John 11, 
Anthony 9, Arthur 7, Manuel 3.  All the children born in Massachusetts.  I have 
also found them in 1920, 1930 and 1940 census Laura Mitchell is a widow.  
Census records show she came to US 1887/1889 so it would be around that time.  
I will try and find children birth record info to see if anything else is 
listed on her birthplace.  I will also try to find her on ship's manifest. You 
might try and get a copy of their marriage record from them to see if it may 
give more info on her birthplace.  You can google the church and their phone 
number/address are
 listed   They moved to CA between 1908 and 1920.  

"E"

 



On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Denis Meals  wrote:

Helda:
>
>
>The San Francisco Genealogy California Death Index 1940-1997 lists the 
>following, which you perhaps already know, since it confirms some of your 
>posted information.
>
>
> 
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>MITCHELL  
> LAURA  
> PERRY  
> 03  
> 04  
> 1943  
> ALAMEDA  
> F  
> 0  
> 10  
> 15  
> 1879  
> OTHER COUNTRY  
>   
> MONIZ  
>
>
>Denis
>
>
>
>On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:40 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy 
> wrote:
>
>Helda,
>>
>>
>>Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know where in 
>>the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even guesses 
>>will be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not matches. 
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>John M. raposo
>>
>>On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>Hello Everyone,
>>
>>
>>I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been doing 
>>our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help find 
>>his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked about 
>>"Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was older then 
>>the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the states she was 
>>born  several years before her younger half brother. She was living in 
>>California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited her and sent 
>>his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the back these are 
>>Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their Uncles age. Another 
>>clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my uncles grandfathers 
>>records but with no correspondence to why.
>>Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age and 
>>did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would be 
>>about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be coincidences. 
>>I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing family research and 
>>stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then her father would be 
>>listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would be able to provide 
>>Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers side. The woman I think 
>>could be the missing Laura is in some records listed as Laura Moniz sometimes 
>>she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was married to a Frank P Mitchell they 
>>lived in Glouchester Mass and had several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), 
>>John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel.  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda 
>>California. 
>>Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is the 
>>right one. 
>>
>>
>>I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
>>Helda
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

["E" Sharp]

Helda,

I found the birth records for 6 of their children so far.  The record for
their son Joseph lists the both his father and mother as born in PICO.  All
the others say Western Islands.  All children b. Gloucester.

Antone b. 2/19/1901
Joseph b. 10/2/1895 parents b. PICO
Nora b. 7/29/1897
John b. 4/13/1899
Arthur b. 4/11/1904
Manuel P. 1/24/1907

You can see these at familysearch.org.  Just put in the last name Mitchell,
Gloucester, Massachusetts, father Frank, mother Laura and they will
all come up for you as well as census record info.  Hope this helps.  I
have not been able to find her US ship's manifest and am not good at
reading the Passportes records and don't know where she would have sailed
from in the Azores if she came from Pico.  I am sure others on the list can
help you with this and you could search 1887 to 1889 range.  Will take some
time.

"E"


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Helda,
>
> Frank P. MASON 24, and Laura A. MONIES 23, were married November 20, 1892,
> at Our Lady of Good Voyages Church in Gloucester by Father Francisco Viera
> de Bem.  They are both listed as born in Western Isles (Azores on census
> records).  His parents are Manuel P. and Mary.  Her parents are Joseph and
> Isabelle.  The 1910 census lists 11 children born, 7 living.  Joseph 14,
> Leonora 12, John 11, Anthony 9, Arthur 7, Manuel 3.  All the children born
> in Massachusetts.  I have also found them in 1920, 1930 and 1940 census
> Laura Mitchell is a widow.  Census records show she came to US 1887/1889 so
> it would be around that time.  I will try and find children birth record
> info to see if anything else is listed on her birthplace.  I will also try
> to find her on ship's manifest. You might try and get a copy of their
> marriage record from them to see if it may give more info on her
> birthplace.  You can google the church and their phone number/address are
> listed   They moved to CA between 1908 and 1920.
>
> "E"
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Denis Meals  wrote:
>
>> Helda:
>>
>> The San Francisco Genealogy California Death Index 1940-1997 lists the
>> following, which you perhaps already know, since it confirms some of your
>> posted information.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> MITCHELL
>> LAURA
>> PERRY
>> 03
>> 04
>> 1943
>> ALAMEDA
>> F
>> 0
>> 10
>> 15
>> 1879
>> OTHER COUNTRY
>>
>> MONIZ
>>
>> Denis
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:40 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Helda,
>>>
>>> Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know
>>> where in the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even
>>> guesses will be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not
>>> matches. Thanks!
>>>
>>> John M. raposo
>>>   On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard <
>>> heldapritchard22...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been
>>> doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help
>>> find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked
>>> about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was
>>> older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the
>>> states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was
>>> living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited
>>> her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the
>>> back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their
>>> Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my
>>> uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why.
>>> Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right
>>> age and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that
>>> would be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be
>>> coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing
>>> family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then
>>> her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would
>>> be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers
>>> side. The woman I think could be the missing Laura is in some records
>>> listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was
>>> married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in Glouchester Mass and had
>>> several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel.
>>>  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda California.
>>> Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is
>>> the right one.
>>>
>>> I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
>>> Helda
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

["E" Sharp]

Helda,

Frank P. MASON 24, and Laura A. MONIES 23, were married November 20, 1892,
at Our Lady of Good Voyages Church in Gloucester by Father Francisco Viera
de Bem.  They are both listed as born in Western Isles (Azores on census
records).  His parents are Manuel P. and Mary.  Her parents are Joseph and
Isabelle.  The 1910 census lists 11 children born, 7 living.  Joseph 14,
Leonora 12, John 11, Anthony 9, Arthur 7, Manuel 3.  All the children born
in Massachusetts.  I have also found them in 1920, 1930 and 1940 census
Laura Mitchell is a widow.  Census records show she came to US 1887/1889 so
it would be around that time.  I will try and find children birth record
info to see if anything else is listed on her birthplace.  I will also try
to find her on ship's manifest. You might try and get a copy of their
marriage record from them to see if it may give more info on her
birthplace.  You can google the church and their phone number/address are
listed   They moved to CA between 1908 and 1920.

"E"




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Denis Meals  wrote:

> Helda:
>
> The San Francisco Genealogy California Death Index 1940-1997 lists the
> following, which you perhaps already know, since it confirms some of your
> posted information.
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> LAURA
> PERRY
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> 04
> 1943
> ALAMEDA
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> 10
> 15
> 1879
> OTHER COUNTRY
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> Denis
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> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:40 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Helda,
>>
>> Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know where
>> in the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even
>> guesses will be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not
>> matches. Thanks!
>>
>> John M. raposo
>>   On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard <
>> heldapritchard22...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been
>> doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help
>> find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked
>> about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was
>> older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the
>> states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was
>> living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited
>> her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the
>> back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their
>> Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my
>> uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why.
>> Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age
>> and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would
>> be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be
>> coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing
>> family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then
>> her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would
>> be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers
>> side. The woman I think could be the missing Laura is in some records
>> listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was
>> married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in Glouchester Mass and had
>> several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel.
>>  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda California.
>> Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is
>> the right one.
>>
>> I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
>> Helda
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

[Denis Meals]

Helda:

The San Francisco Genealogy California Death Index 1940-1997 lists the
following, which you perhaps already know, since it confirms some of your
posted information.













































MITCHELL
LAURA
PERRY
03
04
1943
ALAMEDA
F
0
10
15
1879
OTHER COUNTRY

MONIZ

Denis

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:40 AM, 'John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Helda,
>
> Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know where
> in the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even
> guesses will be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not
> matches. Thanks!
>
> John M. raposo
>   On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard <
> heldapritchard22...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been
> doing our family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help
> find his missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked
> about "Tia Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was
> older then the half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the
> states she was born  several years before her younger half brother. She was
> living in California in the early 1920's as her half brother had visited
> her and sent his father photos, one of them had two men and it said on the
> back these are Laura's two oldest sons the boys were close to the their
> Uncles age. Another clue we have is the year 1943 that was written on my
> uncles grandfathers records but with no correspondence to why.
> Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age
> and did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would
> be about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be
> coincidences. I am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing
> family research and stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then
> her father would be listed as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would
> be able to provide Laura's family with 5 generations back on the fathers
> side. The woman I think could be the missing Laura is in some records
> listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is listed as Laura Mitchell. She was
> married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in Glouchester Mass and had
> several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel.
>  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda California.
> Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is
> the right one.
>
> I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
> Helda
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help to solve a mystery for my uncle.

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

Helda,

Can you give us an approximate place of birth and also, do you know where in 
the Azores (parish and island) Laura would have been born in? Even guesses will 
be helpful and would help filter out the Lauras who are not matches. Thanks!

John M. raposo

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:33 PM, Helda Pritchard 
 wrote:
 


Hello Everyone,

I am trying to help my Uncle find his aunt. As my mom and I have been doing our 
family tree my Uncle who is in his 80's has asked if I could help find his 
missing aunt. My Uncle's father and Grandfather had always talked about "Tia 
Laura". His grandfather had her before he married so she was older then the 
half brother. All we know is that Laura had gone to the states she was born  
several years before her younger half brother. She was living in California in 
the early 1920's as her half brother had visited her and sent his father 
photos, one of them had two men and it said on the back these are Laura's two 
oldest sons the boys were close to the their Uncles age. Another clue we have 
is the year 1943 that was written on my uncles grandfathers records but with no 
correspondence to why.
Doing research I found a Laura Moniz/Mitchell that is about the right age and 
did live in California at about the right time. She had sons that would be 
about the right age and she did die in 1943. These could all be coincidences. I 
am hoping that maybe one of her family members is doing family research and 
stumbles upon this. As Laura was a illegitimate then her father would be listed 
as incongnito on her birth certificate.  I would be able to provide Laura's 
family with 5 generations back on the fathers side. The woman I think could be 
the missing Laura is in some records listed as Laura Moniz sometimes she is 
listed as Laura Mitchell. She was married to a Frank P Mitchell they lived in 
Glouchester Mass and had several children Joseph, Leonora (Nora), John, 
Anthony, Aurthur and Manuel.  She died on March 4th, 1943 in Alameda 
California. 
Again I would happily scan the photo online to prove that this Laura is the 
right one. 

I know this is a long shot but you never know unless you ask.
Helda


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

thank you pam

i had a hard time saving the document to my computer

i was on the page but another page kept repeatingly getting save

carmen


   
    


On Sun, 5/18/14, Pam Santos  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]
 To: "azores@googlegroups.com" 
 Date: Sunday, May 18, 2014, 4:58 PM
 
 31 Mar
 1905 birth and  24 Apr 1905 for baptism. you had the wrong
 page for your link
 
 On Sat,
 May 17, 2014 at 7:50 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy 
 wrote:
 
 
 hi i can't make out some
 words on this one 
http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/page&view=arg6BAP2&id=1&img=3&size=1
  faustino son of jacinto
 furtado march 31 or 21, 1905
 birthapril 24, 1905
 baptism is it March 21 or
 31? thanks
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