RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software

[pico]

Maria, out of curiosity, if  you renumber people, are you talking about the number that is automatically assigned to them as you enter in new people?If that's the case, then what if you decide you want person 111 to be number 10 now? What happens to the person who is already number 10? Do they switch to being number 111? Or am I on the wrong track?It might not have any relevance, but in my program, Brother's Keeper, if I want one of my own direct ancestors to have a lower number, I have to first vacate the number by entering in a new person and then renaming the person with that number. I just use X for something handy. Then I take that person named X and rename them as my own ancestor. I attach them to the right spouse, parents and children and their old number is now named X and I can use that person as another person in another family. This way I never "delete" a person and never have a false number of people in my database. I usually keep "good" numbers that I want to save for my own ancestors named X until I find an ancestor for that number.Since I don't use the other programs, this method might not be understandable and a pure waste of time to try explaining it. :-)As for the size of your database, 2000 seems impossibly small to cause any program to have problems.I'm at over 240,000 people and over 98,000 marriages and it's as fast as ever.Doug da Rocha HolmesPico & Terceira Genealogist=Get ready for NFL Fantasy Football and join me in the newly created Azores Genealogist League. Still looking for more participants.Write me here for more info: n...@rochaholmes.com=


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software
From: GS1138 
Date: Sat, June 14, 2014 10:40 am
To: "Genealogy, Azores" 

Sorry I wasn't clear.   Transcription field: A field where you can enter the transcribe information that keeps it connected with the document.  Some have a description field which isn't really meant for adding the transcription. I own the current version of Family Tree Maker. FTM is user friendly good program, but limited (godparents and witness have to be added in comments).  I've out  grown it.  Also, once my tree went past 2000 individual it started having hiccups, freezing, stop working and closing.   I was looking at the scrambled data, trying to see if I could fix it or just rebuild.  I'm finding the parish birth, marriage and deaths records are now attached to other people or not connected to anyone.  If no surname was entered it move the given name to the surname field.  It's going to be faster and easier to just rebuild.  Thankfully, I saved all my research and data in different forms so it will just take time to get everything back to where it was. I just want to avoid doing this again and find a program that meets my needs. I've down loaded the 30 day trial of TMG and was just looking at Legacy Reviews.  RootsMagic doesn't import on-line sources or let you renumber people.   Maria     es. 





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software

[Cheri Mello]

Maria,

If you feel you've outgrown FTM, you may have that same feeling with
RootsMagic (or so says the reviews).  So I'd check out TMG and Legacy.

You also may want to check out their User Groups and see if they have any
in your area.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software

[GS1138]

Sorry I wasn't clear.  

Transcription field: A field where you can enter the transcribe information 
that keeps it connected with the document.  Some have a description field which 
isn't really meant for adding the transcription. 


I own the current version of Family Tree Maker. FTM is user friendly good 
program, but limited (godparents and witness have to be added in comments).  
I've out  grown it.  Also, once my tree went past 2000 individual it started 
having hiccups, freezing, stop working and closing.  

I was looking at the scrambled data, trying to see if I could fix it or just 
rebuild.  I'm finding the parish birth, marriage and deaths records are now 
attached to other people or not connected to anyone.  If no surname was entered 
it move the given name to the surname field.  It's going to be faster and 
easier to just rebuild.  Thankfully, I saved all my research and data in 
different forms so it will just take time to get everything back to where it 
was. 

I just want to avoid doing this again and find a program that meets my needs. 

I've down loaded the 30 day trial of TMG and was just looking at Legacy 
Reviews.  RootsMagic doesn't import on-line sources or let you renumber people. 
 

Maria 

  

  

  

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To: "Genealogy, Azores"  
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:58:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software 

Maria GS1138, 

It would help to know which program you are leaving so you don't get 
recommendations for that one.  And I'm assuming you are a PC user. 

Here's your list and what I know: 
Transcription field for records in another language 
I don't know what you mean by this.  You want your software program to 
translate records for you?  None of them do that.  You want the program to say 
"Nome" "Naseu" etc?  None of them do that YET.  Legacy is the closest to being 
completed.  Then RootMagic will in a couple of years and The Master Genealogist 
or TMG is supposed to be "working on it."  However, in TMG, you can kinda make 
your own in a way. 

Godparents fields:  You can create one in Legacy (I think) if it's not standard 
& TMG has Godparents for sure. 
Witness fields: Standard in TMG.  I think you can create one in Legacy if it's 
not standard. 
Website creation:  Included in Legacy.  With TMG you have to buy a supplemental 
program, Second Site. 
DNA results (not a must have): TMG & Legacy. 

Someone who uses RootsMagic (like Mel or someone else) can speak to that 
program.  I don't know it that well.  Likewise for Family Tree Maker.  But like 
I said, if we knew which program you were coming from, then we can skip that 
whole part. 

If you wind up being stuck between 2 programs, I suggest you download the free 
trial version and play around with them until you make up your mind. 
Legacy:  www.legacyfamilytree.com   Their standard edition is free (Deluxe has 
100 more bells and whistles). 
RootsMagic: www.rootsmagic.com/essentials   Their Essentials is free.  I'm 
guessing their regular one has about 100 more bells and whistles. 
The Master Genealogist: www.whollygenes.com   Full program free to try for 30 
days and then it locks you out. 
Family Tree Maker:  No free version.  They suggest you play with the Trees on 
Ancestry.com, but to me, that's no where near the FTM program. 
Cheri Mello 
Listowner, Azores-Gen 
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada 


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa for da Vega

[BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy]

Hi I am looking for  help with translation of the link below for Manoel 
Espionla da Vega and Filomena  Olivia da Gloria, I know the year is 1895  
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-C-1892
-1911/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-C-1892-1911_item1/P23.html
 
 
 
 

Thank  you
Bob Camacho




Researching the Island of Terceira for
da Costa,  Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera
Researching the Island  of Graciosa for
Reis
Researching the Island  of Madeira for
Camacho
Researching Brazil  for
Evangelho

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

[IslandRoutes]

Margaret,
I think you missed my post a couple of days ago.  There was some confusion 
over whether there was one or two Miguel do Monte's in Achada.  It turns 
out there were two, father and son, and both married women of the same 
name.  The births from 1758 onward belong to the son and his wife.  It was 
sorted out by the birth place of the parents: Miguel do Monte, the father, 
was born in Achadinha, and his wife, Thereza Furtado was born in Agua 
Retorta.  Miguel do Monte, the son, and his wife Thereza Furtada were born 
born in Achada.  This was also clarified by the use of Mancebo after the 
son's name in the baptismals which someone defined as meaning "the 
younger".  

Miguel do Monte, the father, died 16 Jul 1764,  Achada, and his wife 
Thereza Furtada died 15 Jan 1762 in Achada   

Miguel do Monte, the son, died 28 Apr 1810, Achada and his wife, Thereza 
Furtada died 9 Nov 1806, Achada


These are the children of Miguel do Monte, the son, and Thereza Furtada:
1-Miguel do MONTE II-2007
b: May 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl.
d: 28 April 1810, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl.
+Thereza FURTADA-10883
b: circa 1730, Achada, Nordeste, Sao Miguel Isl.
m: circa 1755, Sao Miguel Isl., Azores
. . . . 2-Maria FURTADO?-2019
b: 4 May 1756, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Manoel da COSTA Twin-2022
b: 19 May 1759, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Isabel FURTADO? Twin-2023
b: 19 May 1759, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Antonio FURTADO?-2024
b: 25 January 1762, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Pascoal FURTADO?-2025
b: 22 April 1764, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Jose FURTADO?-2026
b: 11 April 1766, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Joze FURTADO-2005 <- My ancestor married Antonia Pimenetel
b: 13 September 1767, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Maria FURTADO-2027
b: 12 May 1770, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Pedro FURTADO?-2028
b: 11 October 1775, Achada Grande, Sao Miguel, Acores
. . . . 2-Maria FURTADA-10108


Hope this helps sort it out.  If you connect to Joze Furtado and Antonia 
Pimentel, then we are related as these are my ancestors.  I descend from 
their daughter, Rosa Pimentel who married Jose Francisco de Mello.
Mel
On Friday, June 13, 2014 9:54:38 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Miguel do Monte and Teresa Furtado had more children after 1758.  
>
> I have in my tree their son, Jose Furtado born Sep 13 1767 
> (SMG-ND-ACHADA-B-1751-1770_0118) he married Antonia de Pimentel in Achada 
> Grande, Nordeste (CCA-SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1788-1818_0018)
>
>
>
>
>  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cardoso - info 2 - Pico

[Dennis Marshall]

Hi Alice, I don't have much on Cardoso's but have some on Barbara Da
Conceicao who is 2nd cousin 3x.  Many familiar names listed for Pontas
Negras though.  Let me know if I can add anything.  Located in San Diego.
Dennis


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Alice Tibbetts 
wrote:

> I sent the other before I added additional information for Jose Pereira
> Cardoso (born 1878 died at age 78)  and Barbara Da Conceicao (died at age
> 92)
>
> Jose Pereira Cardosa's parents were Francisco Pereira Cardozo (Birth and
> death unknown)  -  married Florinda Rosa (Birth and death unknown) - I am
> trying to find out info on them.
>
> I am trying to locate information on Jose Periera's Cardosa's brother -
> Peter who lived in Mass. USA
>
>
>
> children of Jose Pereira Cardosa Jr. B 12/12/1910 Pontas Negras and died
> 12/20/1988 in Toronto Canada  - marred Deolinda Melo - born 2/28/1914 in
> Santa Cruz, Pico and died 2000 in Toronto Canada
>
>children -  Mary Alice Cardosa -   born 4/28/1934  Pontas
> Negras - currently lives in San Diego CA USA
> Manuel Andriel Cardosa   born Jun 1937   Santa
> Cruz, Pico -  moved back to the Azores  -
>
>   Manuel married Maria
> Carmelina
> child -
> Nelson Cardosa
> Fernando Melo Cardosaborn 12/21/1943
> Santa Cruz, Pico
> Adelia Oliveria Cardosa   born 7/13/1950
> Santa Cruz Pico
> Maria Jose Cardosaborn 6/18/1939 Santa
> Cruz, Pico
>
>Either Manuel Andriel Cardosa or
> Fernando Melo Cardosa moved back to Pontas Negras or Santa Cruz in the last
> 5 years ?
>
>
> Alcino Pereira Jorge B 1917 Pontas Negras   Died in Pontas Negras   
> married Maria Do Carmo at age 50.
>children of Alcino Jorge -
> Maria Jose Jorge
> Albertina Maria Jorgeb 1957 married Germano Gomes
> Pimentel  -
>   child - Heldete Sonia Jorge
> Pimentel  b 1978
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

[IslandRoutes]

Aaron,
Okay, now I remember looking at this record.  I have it in my notes, but it 
hasn't gotten into my database yet.  I think with all the Miguel do Monte 
records I've seen the last two weeks that my brain blanked.

Thanks
Mel
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 12:06:05 AM UTC-7, Aaron Pereira wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Here is the link to what is suspected as being the marriage record of 
> Miguel de Monte and Maria Furtada
>
> bottom recordpage is torn, so you can only make out the groom's name 
> as Miguel.  January 17, 1717.  I think a lister had found a marriage record 
> of a possible brother or sister of Miguel de Monte.  I got the year and day 
> of marriage from the Canto index Cheri had posted.
>
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P93.html
>>
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software

[Diane George]

Maria,

 

Legacy does not have a “transcription” field, however there is a field to 
record the data from a source so you could do the transcription in that field 
or copy it from some other source into that field. The information would appear 
in the Source detail for the fact supported. For example, if you have a baptism 
record, you would include the transcription/translation in the Source detail 
for the baptism, birth and any other information in the record.

 

You can create additional Event/Fact fields for the Godparents and Witnesses.

 

As Cheri indicated, you can generate web pages from your data and there is a 
way to store DNA results.

 

Go to http://legacyfamilytree.com to see which features are in the Standard 
(free) edition versus the Deluxe ($29.95 for the download version and $39.95 
for the CD version).

 

Let me know if you want more details.

 

Diane George

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GS1138
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 7:35 AM
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software

 

My genealogy software program crashed last night.  When I was finally able to 
get it back up all the data was scrabbled.  Luckily I have older back up and 
gedcom files.  so it's not a total loss.

Since I'm forced to start over I was wondering if anyone knows of a software 
program that has the following features:

 

Transcription field for records in another language

Godparents fields

Witness fields

Website creation

DNA results (not a must have)

 

 

Thank you for any recommendations.

 

Maria

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

[Cheri Mello]

Aaron,

Before anyone asks, it's my own file in Excel that I typed up from Canto's
index (amended by Rodrigo Rodrigues (RR)).  It goes from 168x (date can't
be read) to 1729 if memory serves me correctly.  It's not posted anywhere,
I  have to email it to you.  Remember, you'll need Excel to read it.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software

[Cheri Mello]

Maria GS1138,

It would help to know which program you are leaving so you don't get
recommendations for that one.  And I'm assuming you are a PC user.

Here's your list and what I know:
Transcription field for records in another language
I don't know what you mean by this.  You want your software program to
translate records for you?  None of them do that.  You want the program to
say "Nome" "Naseu" etc?  None of them do that YET.  Legacy is the closest
to being completed.  Then RootMagic will in a couple of years and The
Master Genealogist or TMG is supposed to be "working on it."  However, in
TMG, you can kinda make your own in a way.

Godparents fields:  You can create one in Legacy (I think) if it's not
standard & TMG has Godparents for sure.
Witness fields: Standard in TMG.  I think you can create one in Legacy if
it's not standard.
Website creation:  Included in Legacy.  With TMG you have to buy a
supplemental program, Second Site.
DNA results (not a must have): TMG & Legacy.

Someone who uses RootsMagic (like Mel or someone else) can speak to that
program.  I don't know it that well.  Likewise for Family Tree Maker.  But
like I said, if we knew which program you were coming from, then we can
skip that whole part.

If you wind up being stuck between 2 programs, I suggest you download the
free trial version and play around with them until you make up your mind.
Legacy:  www.legacyfamilytree.com  Their standard edition is free (Deluxe
has 100 more bells and whistles).
RootsMagic: www.rootsmagic.com/essentials  Their Essentials is free.  I'm
guessing their regular one has about 100 more bells and whistles.
The Master Genealogist: www.whollygenes.com  Full program free to try for
30 days and then it locks you out.
Family Tree Maker:  No free version.  They suggest you play with the Trees
on Ancestry.com, but to me, that's no where near the FTM program.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy Software

[GS1138]

My genealogy software program crashed last night.  When I was finally able to 
get it back up all the data was scrabbled.  Luckily I have older back up and 
gedcom files.  so it's not a total loss. 
Since I'm forced to start over I was wondering if anyone knows of a software 
program that has the following features: 
  
Transcription field for records in another language 
Godparents fields 
Witness fields 
Website creation 
DNA results (not a must have) 
  
  
Thank you for any recommendations. 
  
Maria 
  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Graciosa ancestors

[Dolores]

Does anyone have this couple in their tree? Simao de Sousa da Silva b Praya 
28Dec 1722 m Maria de Sao Jose dos Reis  on 2Dec 1769 in Luz, Graciosa. She was 
his 3rd wife b 19 Jan 1731.  Thank you. Hope someone can respond. Their history 
is interesting.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Anyone researching Antonio do Monte/Agada Rapozo Achada/Nordestinho?

[Aaron Pereira]

Hello,

Here is the link to what is suspected as being the marriage record of 
Miguel de Monte and Maria Furtada

bottom recordpage is torn, so you can only make out the groom's name as 
Miguel.  January 17, 1717.  I think a lister had found a marriage record of 
a possible brother or sister of Miguel de Monte.  I got the year and day of 
marriage from the Canto index Cheri had posted.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728/SMG-ND-ACHADA-C-1690-1728_item1/P93.html
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