[AZORES-Genealogy] name changes in america

[David Perry]

We all rue the name changes in the Azores but the tradition carried on in 
this country as well.  We're all familiar with the more common changes such 
as Pereira to Perry.  However one of my lines went from Medeiros to Medas 
to Meetis all in the span of fifty years or so.  Another changed from 
Manuel Rego to something entirely different because he didn't want to be 
confused with his cousin, another Manuel Rego in the same town.  Brick 
walls are everywhere.  
David 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Thanks! I found some possiblities
~Barbara
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:24 PM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,

   

  Go here and look.  There are over 1000 entries for the ship Azor.  

   

  
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bostonpl&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_db&_F0005959=Azor&dbOnly=_F0005959%7C_F0005959_x&uidh=612

   

  “E”

  Barbara.

   


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Eric,

I did check the passports and found this one: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html
 . He is the last one on the list. 

~Barbara
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara, 

  The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the passports 
from that end for him.

  Eric Edgar


  On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg"  
wrote:

Cheri,

Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by 
haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I 
looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

~Barbara  
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  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,

  In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


  In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of 
the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, 
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists 
and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts 
covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive 
roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 
(State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) 
are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; 
Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this 
is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  
You'll have to go to your public library to check for the details on these 
ports.


  You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
  I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it 
is though.
  http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


  You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port 
though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has 
a subscription.



  Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Nancy,

When I first saw your email I thought, at last someone who knows about Joseph 
Victorino (Vitorino Jose)! But I guess it was a different one. From what I 
could find the one I am looking for was born Feb 25, 1832 in Angústias, Horta, 
Faial, Azores. His father was Vitorino Jose dos Reis and mother was Mariana 
Luisa Candida. He did settle in New Bedford. But my relatives say it was New 
Bedford, New Jersey. I haven't verified that yet.  He supposedly came over to 
America with his older brother, Antonio Victorino in 1859.

~Barbara
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  From: nancy jean baptiste 
  To: azores group 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 3:57 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.


  For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he 
used many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name was 
Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the constant was 
his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao Jorge in 
1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw him.the Horta 
passports opened the door for me once again.


  I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the ship he 
came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says.


  Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is 
"Nol?"...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his village 
as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in 1862His 
father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de Betencurt!


  Thank you for any help with the ship name.


  Nancy Jean

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[E. Sharp]

Barbara,

 

Go here and look.  There are over 1000 entries for the ship Azor.  

 

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bostonpl 

 
&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=1&msT=1&gss=ms_db&_F0005959=Azor&dbOnly=_F0005959%7C_F0005959_x&uidh=612

 

“E”

Barbara.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Change of names

[Ubirajara Jales de Lira]

Thanks! It helps!

She really was speaking about Maria Magdalena do Rosário,  her grandmother, 
mother of her mother. I just wannted help to know if she was speaking one true 
name of family. I stopped my research over 6 years ago, because I didn't have a 
name of family, only religious names.

Ubirajara Jales de Lira.





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Change of names

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

There is no stock answer to your question. It could be that your aunt was 
referring to the family name of her father or mother. Naming traditions seem to 
change at different times and some woman started using a family name later in 
life. In some of the last records which I found my 2nd great grandmother she 
was named as Rita de Pimentel. In earlier she was named as Rita de Jesus or 
Rita dos Santos.

As you go further back in your search you could very well find the da Rocha in 
your tree.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH


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Ubirajara Jales de Lira
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Change of names

Ok, I found the records(marriage and birth) with the parents names of Josefa 
Gomes de Oliveira,  my great grandmother on the my mother's line.

On the record of birth is written the parents names: José Gomes de Oliveira and 
Maria Magdalena do Rosário; 

On the record of marriage is written: José Gomes de Oliveira and Maria 
Magdalena do Rosário. 

One my mother's cousin asked my mother's aunt the parents names of their 
grandparents and she said for him that the names are José Gomes de Oliveira and 
Maria DA ROCHA. 

The question is: Was it usual change the name of bride when she married? 

I hope a answer from some expert.
Thanks in advance! 

Ubirajara Jales de Lira.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How many family finder matches do you have?

[A Faria]

I have for some time also thought that the shared DNA could partially have 
to do with Madeirans settling in the Azores the surname Bettencourt is an 
example of that it started off in Madeira . There are others. However I 
don't match any Madeirans I don't know if many of them test there are much 
fewer of them in North America than Azoreans and that is where the bulk of 
those testing are from.

Antonio Faria


 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

I was looking for Antonio Victorino and his brother Joseph (or Vitorino Jose)

Where did you find it on Ancestry.com? I have had no luck finding the Ship Azor 
(or Asor or Acor)

~Barbara
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  To: azores 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  I found the ship Azor on Ancestry with passengers listed.  What is the name 
you are looking for?


  "E"


  On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:16 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

Barbara, 

The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the 
passports from that end for him.

Eric Edgar


On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg"  
wrote:

  Cheri,

  Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by 
haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I 
looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

  ~Barbara  
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From: Cheri Mello 
To: Azores Genealogy 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


Barbara,

In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of 
the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, 
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists 
and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts 
covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive 
roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 
(State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) 
are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; 
Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this 
is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  
You'll have to go to your public library to check for the details on these 
ports.


You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good 
it is though.
http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port 
though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has 
a subscription.



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.

[luiznoia .]

Nancy,

Jose I Victorino did make it onboard the Paladin for that sailing. he is
found on this page from the Ancestry Massachucetts Passenger lists


http://interactive.ancestry.com/8745/MAM277_90-0201/4273266?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.com%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fgst%3d-6&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults

There is no date on the manifest, but Ancestry has it as 13 Aug 1883.

He is listed as Jose I Victorino, 21 yrs old.  He is just below Francisca J
de Bettencourt. On the Horta passport, she is at line 561.

You can also see on the arrival list, Francisco I Pimentel that matches the
Francisco Ignacio Pimentel at line 572 of the Horta list


Eric Edgar

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:57 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he
> used many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name
> was Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the
> constant was his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao
> Jorge in 1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw
> him.the Horta passports opened the door for me once again.
>
> I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the ship
> he came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says.
>
> Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is
> "Nol?"...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his
> village as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in
> 1862His father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de
> Betencurt!
>
> Thank you for any help with the ship name.
>
> Nancy Jean
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Change of names

[Ubirajara Jales de Lira]

Ok, I found the records(marriage and birth) with the parents names of Josefa 
Gomes de Oliveira,  my great grandmother on the my mother's line.

On the record of birth is written the parents names: José Gomes de Oliveira and 
Maria Magdalena do Rosário; 

On the record of marriage is written: José Gomes de Oliveira and Maria 
Magdalena do Rosário. 

One my mother's cousin asked my mother's aunt the parents names of their 
grandparents and she said for him that the names are José Gomes de Oliveira and 
Maria DA ROCHA. 

The question is: Was it usual change the name of bride when she married? 

I hope a answer from some expert.
Thanks in advance! 

Ubirajara Jales de Lira.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogy workshops in the US - 2015

['joao ventura' via Azores Genealogy]

This is a remind about the workshops I will be giving in the US on March and 
April:
Pawtucket, RI - March 16 and 17 - 4 different workshops
Escalon, CA - MArch 28 and 29 - 4 different worshops
Salt Lake City, UT - April 6 to 10 - Azores Genealogy research trip.
For details on the workshops, please contact me privatly.
Bio:
João Manuel Dinis da Silva Ventura has been immersedin Azorean genealogy for 
more than 25 years.  He hasworked for the Government of the Azores in thefield 
of genealogy and is currently the archivist of Direção Regionalda Cultura 
(Regional Directorate of Culture). João was responsiblefor scanning church 
records for Terceira, São Jorge andGraciosa, and supervised the digitizing of 
records for Faial, Pico,Corvo and Flores.  He studied at the University of 
Coimbra where he earned undergraduatedegrees in English and German and a 
postgraduate degree in Archivology. He has successfully completed genealogy 
research for government entities,fellow genealogists, and individuals.  João 
has also givengenealogy workshops and lectures in São Miguel,Terceira, Faial, 
Graciosa, as well as in Tulare, Berkeley, Hayward, Turlockand San Jose, 
California.
João VenturaTerceira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

["E" Sharp]

I found the ship Azor on Ancestry with passengers listed.  What is the name
you are looking for?

"E"

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:16 PM, luiznoia .  wrote:

> Barbara,
>
> The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the
> passports from that end for him.
>
> Eric Edgar
>  On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg" 
> wrote:
>
>>  Cheri,
>>
>> Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by
>> haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues.
>> I looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the
>> olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the
>> ship Name of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or
>> Acor arriving on Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to
>> keep researching.
>>
>> ~Barbara
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Cheri Mello 
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
>>
>>   Barbara,
>>
>> In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
>> 1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
>> 1890-1954).
>>
>> In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of
>> the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
>> published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
>> exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
>> abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
>> National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
>> mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
>> coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
>> Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
>> CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
>> in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
>> library to check for the details on these ports.
>>
>> You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
>> I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
>> is though.
>> http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml
>>
>> You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port
>> though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC
>> has a subscription.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[luiznoia .]

Barbara,

The ship Azor left out of Hora a few times around then . Check the
passports from that end for him.

Eric Edgar
 On Feb 10, 2015 2:15 PM, "Barbara Mecklenburg" 
wrote:

>  Cheri,
>
> Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by
> haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues.
> I looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the
> olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the
> ship Name of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or
> Acor arriving on Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to
> keep researching.
>
> ~Barbara
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
>
>   Barbara,
>
> In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1890-1954).
>
> In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of
> the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
> published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
> exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
> abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
> National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
> mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
> coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
> Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
> CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
> in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
> library to check for the details on these ports.
>
> You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
> I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
> is though.
> http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml
>
> You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port
> though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC
> has a subscription.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

["E" Sharp]

Have you tried this website:  He might have come on a whaler but it did not
find a ship Asor but maybe you can search by his name.

http://www.newbedford-ma.gov/library/special-collections/whaling-archives/

"E"

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Barbara Mecklenburg <
bamecklenb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Cheri,
>
> Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by
> haven't been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues.
> I looked at the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the
> olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the
> ship Name of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or
> Acor arriving on Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to
> keep researching.
>
> ~Barbara
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships
>
>   Barbara,
>
> In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
> 1890-1954).
>
> In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of
> the chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
> published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
> exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
> abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
> National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
> mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
> coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
> Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
> CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
> in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
> library to check for the details on these ports.
>
> You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
> I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
> is though.
> http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml
>
> You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port
> though.  If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC
> has a subscription.
>
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.

["E" Sharp]

Nancy Jean,

There is also this one from Fayal (different middle name):

Name:Jose De preitas victorinoGender:MaleEstimated birth year:abt
1864Age:19Port
of Departure:Fayal, Azores, PortugalShip Name:PaladiaArrival Date:13 Aug
1883Port of Arrival:Boston, Massachusetts

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 3:17 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Nancy Jean,
>
> Ancestry has this one and a couple more:
>
> Name:Jose Ignacio VictorianoGender:MaleEthnic Background:S georgeEstimated
> birth year:abt 1863Age:20Port of Departure:St Michael, AzoresShip Name:
> AcorianaArrival Date:16 Oct 1883Port of Arrival:Boston, Massachusetts
>
> "E"
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:57 PM, nancy jean baptiste <
> fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he
>> used many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name
>> was Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the
>> constant was his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao
>> Jorge in 1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw
>> him.the Horta passports opened the door for me once again.
>>
>> I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the
>> ship he came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says.
>>
>> Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is
>> "Nol?"...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his
>> village as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in
>> 1862His father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de
>> Betencurt!
>>
>> Thank you for any help with the ship name.
>>
>> Nancy Jean
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.

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Nancy Jean,

Ancestry has this one and a couple more:

Name:Jose Ignacio VictorianoGender:MaleEthnic Background:S georgeEstimated
birth year:abt 1863Age:20Port of Departure:St Michael, AzoresShip Name:
AcorianaArrival Date:16 Oct 1883Port of Arrival:Boston, Massachusetts

"E"

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fishsongf...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he
> used many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name
> was Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the
> constant was his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao
> Jorge in 1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw
> him.the Horta passports opened the door for me once again.
>
> I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the ship
> he came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says.
>
> Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is
> "Nol?"...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his
> village as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in
> 1862His father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de
> Betencurt!
>
> Thank you for any help with the ship name.
>
> Nancy Jean
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with final brick wall please.

[nancy jean baptiste]

For years I've tried to find my great grandfather, Jose Enos Vetorino, he used 
many names in his records in New Bedford.he said his father's name was 
Thome Oliveira...he also said Vieira, Enos and Bettencourt...the constant was 
his mothers name, Anna Joaquina and that he was born in Sao Jorge in 
1863I've searched all villages for 1863 and never saw him.the Horta 
passports opened the door for me once again.
I found him, Jose Ignacio Victorino. I need some help identifying the ship he 
came on since it's abbreviated and I can't tell what it says.
Horta Passports1876-1889page 0139he's # 571...the ship is 
"Nol?"...I'd like to find him on a ships listthe passports gave his village 
as Santo Amaro, Sao Jorge. I found his baptism.he was born in 1862His 
father is Thome de Oliveira and his mother, Anna Joaquinna de Betencurt!
Thank you for any help with the ship name.
Nancy Jean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Cheri,

Thanks for all the info! I have a world membership on Ancestry.com by haven't 
been able to find anything. That is why I am trying other avenues. I looked at 
the Castle Garden and it didn't have anything - neither did the 
olivetreegenealogy.com. I was able to find (on a Portuguese site) the ship Name 
of Asor arriving in Boston, Mass on June 10, 1859 and Azor or Acor arriving on 
Aug 20, 1859 but no list of passengers. I will have to keep researching.

~Barbara  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,

  In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1820-1890 
(Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about 1890-1954).


  In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of the 
chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book, published 
1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what exists and what's 
missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or abstracts covering 22 
Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the National Archive roll number.  
That film is indexed in M334.  It also mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) 
are indexed in M265.  Other east coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, 
MD; Bristol & Warren, RI; Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New 
Bedford, MA; New Haven, CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; 
Ellis Island was NOT in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to 
your public library to check for the details on these ports.


  You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
  I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it is 
though.
  http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml


  You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port though.  
If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has a 
subscription.



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogies of Sao Miguel -Rodrigo Rodrigues

['John Raposo' via Azores Genealogy]

240º means 240th. º and ª correspond to the(masculine or feminine). §1 means 
section 1 (first generation.) The number before theperson’s name indicates the 
generation from the first person.  If it becomes too cumbersome to follow 
morethan one child from the same generation, then another section is begun, e.g 
§2º,3º, etc.Here is an example:CAPÍTULO 24.º (24thchaplter) DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE 
PEDRO VIEIRA DA SILVA§ 1.º (1st section)1 (firstgeneration) -   Pedro 
Viera daSilva , Fidalgo da Casa Real, que veio de Portugal para a Ilha de S. 
Miguel porse casar em Lisboa contra a vontade do pai (Vide Cristóvão Alão 
Morais,“Pedatura Lusitana”, pág. 402 Vol. I, Tomo III, e Felgueiras 
Gaio,“Nobiliário”, Tomo XV, pág. 70). Voltou para Portugal no tempo de D. João 
II,que o mandou embaixador a Castela, deixando em S. Miguel os filhos já 
casados.Era filho bastardo legitimado de Duarte Galvão, Cronista-mór do Reino 
eembaixador de D. João II ao Imperador Maxilimiliano e ao Preste João (Nota 
N.º1) (Vide D. António Caetano de Sousa, “História Genealógica da Casa 
RealPortuguesa”, Tomo XII, pág. 422). Deste Pedro Vieira da Silva trata Diogo 
Gomesda Figueiredo na obra Famílias do Reino de Portugal, Título Galvões, e 
LourençoAnastácio de Mexia Galvão na sua História Genealógica da família 
Galvão,manuscrito, Cap.º XXXVI. Casou em Portugal, mas ignora-se o nome da 
mulher.Sabe-se quefoi seu filho:2 (2nd generation)-   Fernão Vieira da Silva, 
que segue:2 (2ndgeneration) -    Fernão Vieirada Silva, de Água de Pau. 
Teve foro de Fidalgo da Casa Real (Frutuoso, Livro IVCap.º XC, e Felgueiras 
Gaio, “Nobiliário”, Tomo XV, pág. 73). Casou com EvaLopes (Cap.º 19.º § 1.º, 
N.º 2).Tiveram:3 (3rdgeneration) -    Manuel Vieira Galvãoou Manuel Vieira, que 
segue:3 (3rdgeneration) -    Luzia Vieira, quesegue no § 12.º. (continues in 
12thsection, number 3)3 (3rdgeneration) -    Bárbara Vieira, quesegue no § 
28.º. (continues in 28ththsection, number 3)3 (3rdgeneration) -    Catarina 
Vieira,casou com Gonçalo Moniz.3 (3rdgeneration) -    Maria Vieira citadano 
testamento do avô, Álvaro Lopes, do Vulcão (Frutuoso, Livro IV, Cap.º XX).Casou 
com João Rebelo.3(3rdgeneration)  -    Mécia Afonso, citado no testamento do 
avô,Álvaro Lopes, do Vulcão.3(3rdgeneration)  -    Pedro Vieira, sem mais 
notícia.3 (3rdgeneration) -    António Vieira, idem.I hope this helps. 

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 wrote:
   

 I have been working with the Genealogies of 
Sao Miguel by Rodrigo Rodrigues and have been trying to make some sense of how 
it is broken up.   I am working with this section.CAPÍTULO 240.ºDA DESCENDÊNCIA 
DE GONÇALO ENES§ 1.ºI know this is chapter 240 but I am not sure what the 
symbol is after the 240. The title is “The Descendants of Goncalo Enes.  But 
the symbol below it with the number 1 has me puzzled.    It is very hard to 
follow. The numbered paragraphs which follow as it does not seem to make any 
sense to me.   I am using the copy that Cheri passed out at the workshop in RI 
this past fall. It is not easy to work with and hard to follow but it has given 
me a number of generations before the time when Achada records began  The file 
Cheri passed out is searchable so that helps.      Rick  Richard Francis 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Genealogies of Sao Miguel -Rodrigo Rodrigues

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have been working with the Genealogies of Sao Miguel by Rodrigo Rodrigues
and have been trying to make some sense of how it is broken up. 

 

I am working with this section.

CAPÍTULO 240.º

DA DESCENDÊNCIA DE GONÇALO ENES

§ 1.º

I know this is chapter 240 but I am not sure what the symbol is after the
240. The title is “The Descendants of Goncalo Enes.  But the symbol below it
with the number 1 has me puzzled.  

 

It is very hard to follow. The numbered paragraphs which follow as it does
not seem to make any sense to me. 

 

I am using the copy that Cheri passed out at the workshop in RI this past
fall. It is not easy to work with and hard to follow but it has given me a
number of generations before the time when Achada records began

 

The file Cheri passed out is searchable so that helps.

 

 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online

['Dee' via Azores Genealogy]

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Sonia Pacheco  wrote:

>p { margin: 0; }
>
>Just to put a plug in for the UMass site, the newspapers available on it were 
>all scanned from the original copies (including the Hawaiian ones), so the 
>quality of the images (and readability) will be much clearer; as well, the U 
>of Manoa site does not allow you to search within the newspapers, so you need 
>to download each individual PDF in order to search for an individual, location 
>or event. 
>
>Sonia
>
>Sónia Pacheco
>Librarian Archivist
>Ferreira-Mendes Portuguese American Archives
>Claire T. Carney Library
>University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
>285 Old Westport Road
>N. Dartmouth, MA 02747
>Tel. 508-999-8695
>Fax  508-999-8424
>Email spach...@umassd.edu
>Web site: http://library.umassd.edu/paa 
>
>
>From: "Cheri Mello" 
>To: "Azores Genealogy" 
>Cc: islandrou...@googlegroups.com, prt-made...@rootsweb.com
>Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:09:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online
>
>Kalani,
>
>They are also on the UMass Portuguese American Newspaper web site.  Maybe 
>access will be better?
>http://library.umassd.edu/paa/portuguese-american-digital-newspaper-collections
>
>Cheri
>
>
>On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Kalani N  wrote:
>
>Wow, they added more.  
>
>But that site always has problems downloading.  Not sure if anyone else has 
>the same problem.  
>
>K
>
>
>
>On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
>(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>
>I can't remember who asked me for this, but here is Eric Edgar's original post 
>about where to access the Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online.
>
>Cheri
>
>
>You can browse through, but not search a large collection of Hawaiian 
>newspapers in the Portuguese language here:
>
>
>http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10524/31854
>
>
>The following are available
>
>
>
>O Luso Hawaiiano (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English). August 
>1885 to December 1890
>Aurora Hawaiiana [Hawaiian Dawn] (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese) 
>August 1889 to March 1891
>A Uniao Lusitana Hawaiiana (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese). March 1892 
>to February 1896
>A Sentinella [Sentinel] (Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English).1892 to 
>1896, but only three issues survive: April to September 1892
>O Luso (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese and English). The 
>longest-running Portuguese-language paper, with the largest circulation. 
>February 1896 to October 1897, October 1910 to Jan. 1920
>A Setta [Arrow] (Hilo weekly, Portuguese, some English). Ran from 1903 to 
>1921, but only six issues survive. 1905, 1906, 1908, 1920
>O Popular (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English). July 1911 to 
>January 1913
>O Facho [The Torch] (four-page Hilo weekly, Portuguese). Ran from 1906 to 
>1927, but only one issue survives: February 2, 1927
>
>
>
>Eric Edgar
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online

[robertjm]

The Library of Congress has a huge selection of papers online from across 
the country, and they are text searchable!

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/

While I think these are all pretty much English language papers, they're 
still a great source.


On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>
> I can't remember who asked me for this, but here is Eric Edgar's original 
> post about where to access the Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online.
> Cheri
> 
> You can browse through, but not search a large collection of Hawaiian 
> newspapers in the Portuguese language here:
>
> http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10524/31854
>
> The following are available
>
>
>
>- O Luso Hawaiiano (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some 
>English). August 1885 to December 1890
>- 
>- Aurora Hawaiiana [Hawaiian Dawn] (four-page Honolulu weekly, 
>Portuguese) August 1889 to March 1891
>- 
>- A Uniao Lusitana Hawaiiana (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese). 
>March 1892 to February 1896
>- 
>- A Sentinella [Sentinel] (Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some 
>English).1892 to 1896, but only three issues survive: April to September 
>1892
>- 
>- O Luso (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese and English). The 
>longest-running Portuguese-language paper, with the largest circulation. 
>February 1896 to October 1897, October 1910 to Jan. 1920
>- 
>- A Setta [Arrow] (Hilo weekly, Portuguese, some English). Ran from 
>1903 to 1921, but only six issues survive. 1905, 1906, 1908, 1920
>- 
>- O Popular (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English). 
>July 1911 to January 1913
>- 
>- O Facho [The Torch] (four-page Hilo weekly, Portuguese). Ran from 
>1906 to 1927, but only one issue survives: February 2, 1927
>
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Cheri Mello]

Barbara,

In America, the Customs Passenger Lists cover the period from about
1820-1890 (Immigration Passenger Lists cover the period from about
1890-1954).

In Michael Tepper's "American Passenger Arrival Records," at the end of the
chapter titled "Customs Passenger Lists" (it's Chapter 3 in my book,
published 1993), it lists the ports and years covered, as well was what
exists and what's missing.  For example, it says that Boston has copies or
abstracts covering 22 Sep 1820- 31 Mar 1874 (gaps) M277.  M277 is the
National Archive roll number.  That film is indexed in M334.  It also
mentions that 1848-1891 (State Lists) are indexed in M265.  Other east
coast ports (up in New England) are Baltimore, MD; Bristol & Warren, RI;
Edgartown, MA; Fall River, MA; Nantucket, MA; New Bedford, MA; New Haven,
CT; Newport, RI; New York, NY (this is Castle Garden; Ellis Island was NOT
in existence); and Providence, RI.  You'll have to go to your public
library to check for the details on these ports.

You can search Castle Garden: http://www.castlegarden.org/
I also googled: ships 1859 and came up with this.  Don't know how good it
is though.
http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/tousa1854-1860.shtml

You can search Ancestry too.  I don't believe they have every port though.
If you don't have a subscription, your local public library or FHC has a
subscription.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships

[Barbara Mecklenburg]

Cheri,

I have looked at the passports and found my gr gr gr grandfather, Antonio 
Victorino in Horta in March 7, 1859. I am now trying to find his arrival in 
America. It looks like the ship is Asor and he arrived in (I think) Boston from 
family records. But supposedly his brother Joseph (VItorino Jose) arrived with 
him and I can't find him. So do you know if there is a passenger list for the 
ship Asor landing in America in 1859? This is the url for the passport I found: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1856-1859_item1/P60.html
 Antonio Victorino is the last entry on the page.

Thanks for any help! 

Barbara
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  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships


  Barbara,


  The 3 ports for the Azores are Ponta Delgada (on Sao Miguel), Angra, and 
Horta.  Only Ponta Delgada and Horta are online.  Ponta Delgada doesn't go back 
to 1859.  I don't know about Angra.  You can access the passaportes here: 
http://tombo.pt/d/acores



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online

[Sonia Pacheco]

Just to put a plug in for the UMas s site , the newspapers a v aila ble on it 
were all scanned from the original copies (including the Hawaiian o nes) , so 
the quality of the images (and read ability) will be much clearer ; as well, 
the U of Manoa site does not allow you to search within the newspapers, so you 
need to download each individual PDF in order to search for an individual, 
location or e vent. 

Sonia 




Sónia Pacheco 
Librarian Archivist 
Ferreira-Mendes Portuguese American Archives 
Claire T. Carney Library 
University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 
285 Old Westport Road 
N. Dartmouth, MA 02747 
Tel. 508-999-8695 
Fax 508-999-8424 
Email spach...@umassd.edu 
Web site: http://library.umassd.edu/paa 

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From: "Cheri Mello"  
To: "Azores Genealogy"  
Cc: islandrou...@googlegroups.com, prt-made...@rootsweb.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:09:21 AM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online 




Kalani, 

They are also on the UMass Portuguese American Newspaper web site. Maybe access 
will be better? 
http://library.umassd.edu/paa/portuguese-american-digital-newspaper-collections 

Cheri 



On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Kalani N < mamoah...@gmail.com > wrote: 



Wow, they added more. 

But that site always has problems downloading. Not sure if anyone else has the 
same problem. 

K 



On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote: 




(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists) 

I can't remember who asked me for this, but here is Eric Edgar's original post 
about where to access the Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online. 
Cheri 
 
You can browse through, but not search a large collection of Hawaiian 
newspapers in the Portuguese language here: 


http://evols.library.manoa. haw aii .edu/handle/10524/31854 



The following are available 






* O Luso Hawaiiano (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English). 
August 1885 to December 1890 
* 
* Aurora Hawaiiana [ Hawaiian Dawn] (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese) 
August 1889 to March 1891 
* 
* A Uniao Lusitana Hawaiiana (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese). March 
1892 to February 1896 
* 
* A Sentinella [Sentinel] (Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English).1892 
to 1896, but only three issues survive: April to September 1892 
* 
* O Luso (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese and English). The 
longest-running Portuguese-language paper, with the largest circulation. 
February 1896 to October 1897, October 1910 to Jan. 1920 
* 
* A Setta [Arrow] (Hilo weekly, Portuguese, some English). Ran from 1903 to 
1921, but only six issues survive. 1905, 1906, 1908, 1920 
* 
* O Popular (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English). July 
1911 to January 1913 
* 
* O Facho [The Torch] (four-page Hilo weekly, Portuguese). Ran from 1906 to 
1927, but only one issue survives: February 2, 1927 





Eric Edgar 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How many family finder matches do you have?

[Cheri Mello]

I use the total cMs as a guide too, but the chart on the ISOGG wiki is off,
at least with most of the cases I see.  53 cMs is 3rd cousins or 2nd
cousins twice removed??  I find 50ish cMs as more like 6th cousins.

I swear I saw a cM chart with ranges with a lot of overlap which made
better sense.  Of course I can't find it.  Grrr.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online

[Kalani N]

I just tried the new "newspapers" made available, and it just hung there.  
I tried it in Chrome and it downloaded immediately. 

It's only that site. Before I'd also try to save rather than open, and it 
still would just sit there.  I'll have to figure out why that site I have 
problems with Firefox.  So I have it bookmarked now on Chrome.  I was 
trying to access that site last month while trying to get statistics 
(Hawaii's population) from some of their almanacs there. :)

Kalani

On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 7:09:53 AM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Kalani,
>
> They are also on the UMass Portuguese American Newspaper web site.  Maybe 
> access will be better?
>
> http://library.umassd.edu/paa/portuguese-american-digital-newspaper-collections
>
> Cheri
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Kalani N 
> > wrote:
>
>> Wow, they added more.  
>>
>> But that site always has problems downloading.  Not sure if anyone else 
>> has the same problem.  
>>
>> K
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>>>
>>> I can't remember who asked me for this, but here is Eric Edgar's 
>>> original post about where to access the Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers 
>>> online.
>>> Cheri
>>> 
>>> You can browse through, but not search a large collection of Hawaiian 
>>> newspapers in the Portuguese language here:
>>>
>>> http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10524/31854
>>>
>>> The following are available
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>- O Luso Hawaiiano (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some 
>>>English). August 1885 to December 1890
>>>- 
>>>- Aurora Hawaiiana [Hawaiian Dawn] (four-page Honolulu weekly, 
>>>Portuguese) August 1889 to March 1891
>>>- 
>>>- A Uniao Lusitana Hawaiiana (four-page Honolulu weekly, 
>>>Portuguese). March 1892 to February 1896
>>>- 
>>>- A Sentinella [Sentinel] (Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some 
>>>English).1892 to 1896, but only three issues survive: April to September 
>>>1892
>>>- 
>>>- O Luso (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese and English). The 
>>>longest-running Portuguese-language paper, with the largest circulation. 
>>>February 1896 to October 1897, October 1910 to Jan. 1920
>>>- 
>>>- A Setta [Arrow] (Hilo weekly, Portuguese, some English). Ran from 
>>>1903 to 1921, but only six issues survive. 1905, 1906, 1908, 1920
>>>- 
>>>- O Popular (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English). 
>>>July 1911 to January 1913
>>>- 
>>>- O Facho [The Torch] (four-page Hilo weekly, Portuguese). Ran from 
>>>1906 to 1927, but only one issue survives: February 2, 1927
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric Edgar
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online

[Cheri Mello]

Kalani,

They are also on the UMass Portuguese American Newspaper web site.  Maybe
access will be better?
http://library.umassd.edu/paa/portuguese-american-digital-newspaper-collections

Cheri

On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Kalani N  wrote:

> Wow, they added more.
>
> But that site always has problems downloading.  Not sure if anyone else
> has the same problem.
>
> K
>
>
> On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>>
>> I can't remember who asked me for this, but here is Eric Edgar's original
>> post about where to access the Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online.
>> Cheri
>> 
>> You can browse through, but not search a large collection of Hawaiian
>> newspapers in the Portuguese language here:
>>
>> http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10524/31854
>>
>> The following are available
>>
>>
>>
>>- O Luso Hawaiiano (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some
>>English). August 1885 to December 1890
>>-
>>- Aurora Hawaiiana [Hawaiian Dawn] (four-page Honolulu weekly,
>>Portuguese) August 1889 to March 1891
>>-
>>- A Uniao Lusitana Hawaiiana (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese).
>>March 1892 to February 1896
>>-
>>- A Sentinella [Sentinel] (Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some
>>English).1892 to 1896, but only three issues survive: April to September
>>1892
>>-
>>- O Luso (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese and English). The
>>longest-running Portuguese-language paper, with the largest circulation.
>>February 1896 to October 1897, October 1910 to Jan. 1920
>>-
>>- A Setta [Arrow] (Hilo weekly, Portuguese, some English). Ran from
>>1903 to 1921, but only six issues survive. 1905, 1906, 1908, 1920
>>-
>>- O Popular (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English).
>>July 1911 to January 1913
>>-
>>- O Facho [The Torch] (four-page Hilo weekly, Portuguese). Ran from
>>1906 to 1927, but only one issue survives: February 2, 1927
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric Edgar
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online

[Kalani N]

Wow, they added more.  

But that site always has problems downloading.  Not sure if anyone else has 
the same problem.  

K

On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 1:02:13 PM UTC-8, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)
>
> I can't remember who asked me for this, but here is Eric Edgar's original 
> post about where to access the Portuguese Hawaiian Newspapers online.
> Cheri
> 
> You can browse through, but not search a large collection of Hawaiian 
> newspapers in the Portuguese language here:
>
> http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/handle/10524/31854
>
> The following are available
>
>
>
>- O Luso Hawaiiano (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some 
>English). August 1885 to December 1890
>- 
>- Aurora Hawaiiana [Hawaiian Dawn] (four-page Honolulu weekly, 
>Portuguese) August 1889 to March 1891
>- 
>- A Uniao Lusitana Hawaiiana (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese). 
>March 1892 to February 1896
>- 
>- A Sentinella [Sentinel] (Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some 
>English).1892 to 1896, but only three issues survive: April to September 
>1892
>- 
>- O Luso (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese and English). The 
>longest-running Portuguese-language paper, with the largest circulation. 
>February 1896 to October 1897, October 1910 to Jan. 1920
>- 
>- A Setta [Arrow] (Hilo weekly, Portuguese, some English). Ran from 
>1903 to 1921, but only six issues survive. 1905, 1906, 1908, 1920
>- 
>- O Popular (four-page Honolulu weekly, Portuguese, some English). 
>July 1911 to January 1913
>- 
>- O Facho [The Torch] (four-page Hilo weekly, Portuguese). Ran from 
>1906 to 1927, but only one issue survives: February 2, 1927
>
>
>
> Eric Edgar
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] How many family finder matches do you have?

[Kalani N]

I actually don't go by the predicted relationship, and really don't look at 
that but rather the total shared cM.  Then I use this as a guide.

http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_statistics

So if you have a match you share 50cM or less, to me that is from 3rd 
cousins and beyond.  Definitely not 2nd cousins, as that chart mentions 
212.50cM for 2nd cousins.  I have cousins who are 2nd cousins to each other 
and they share 185.46cM total, 37.35cM for the longest block and 24 
segments according to FTDNA (on GEDmatch it's 152.7cM total, 40.4cM largest 
segment on 7 segments).  And what is important to look is the longest block 
in order to gauge how distant the relationship may be.  Small blocks 
totaling high totals with a lot of segments indicate endogamy.

On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 4:23:30 PM UTC-8, A Faria wrote:
>
> I have 19 pages half of what you have.
>
> I can't figure out how I match some of my suggested 2-4 cousins some of 
> them didn't even know they were Portuguese until that got their results 
> some of them were adopted. I have noticed that if the suggested 
> relationship is 2-4 cousins and my match is from the same island we are 
> more like 5-6th cousins, that is if a link can be found. I don't know about 
> all the other islands but where I was from people frequently married their 
> 3-4th cousins sometimes second cousins, first cousins did occur at times 
> but was frowned upon usually, unless the families had a lot of land and 
> didn't want to split it up.
>
> What island(s) is your family from?
>
>
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