Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to confirm marriage date for Domingos Pereira Evangelho
Hi Mary, I am not sure if there is any sort of connection, but I thought I would share the info I have in my tree. I have a Matias F. Evangelho married to a Domingas Pereira. I do not have birth or death dates for either. They had a daughter, Beatriz Maciel, who died in 1712. She was married to Manuel da Costa Goulart Gigante. He was born in 1683. He died 5 February 1731 in Sao Mateus, Pico. I am wondering if they had other children and that one of them might have been Domingos Pereira Evangelho, the name you mentioned in your query. Have you had your DNA tested? We might discover if we are a match that way. Please keep me in mind if you find any information and I will do the same. Best, Deblooking4roots at yahoo dot com When I searched for ancestors, I found friends! On Sunday, May 17, 2015 2:21 PM, goodwnos via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: Mary, I'm not sure if you've received an answer to your query, but I'll add my two cents for what its worth (assuming you won't mind.) If you look at line four you'll see the word onze meaning eleven. It's a bit confusing as the abbreviated word freguesia on line 3 shows the g coming down into the fourth line. After seeing this, I also went back to my book Evoluçao Demográfica de Trés Paróquias do Sul do Pico and then to the CITCEM website to double check the book. Both of these sources also show the eleventh as the date. Word of caution, CITCEM is based on the book so its not a second independent source. I've attached the webpage source for you to peruse. Hope this helps. Gayle P.S. I have several lines from Sao Mateus, although your folks aren't mine. If you ever want to compare notes, let me know. I might be able to help. Also, I have a considerable number of ancestors from neighboring Candelaria, where I've done a lot of extractions for marriages and deaths, if you connect into this freguesia and want assistance. -Original Message- From: Mary Pimentel Wheeler pimwh...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 2:40 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to confirm marriage date for Domingos Pereira Evangelho I found a date of marriage in another tree as 1 NOV 1765, Sao Matus, Pico. I am trying to confirm through CCA. I found the following record, but it is one of those hard to read ones, so I wanted to check in and see if anyone can tell if this is even the right record. If so, I will try to translate the rest myself - I need the practice :-) But, I could use your help confirming if this is even the right one. Link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1748-1795/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1748-1795_item1/P87.html It is the one of the bottom of the left hand page. Looking for casamento for Domingos Pereira Evangelho, 11 NOV 1765, to Maria Jacinta. Thanks, Mary -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. Domingos Pereira Evangelho.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
[AZORES-Genealogy] First degree of consanguinity--two records Sao Jorge
I ran across two records from 1909 Norte Grande, Sao Jorge that mention dispensations for first degree (primeira grau) consanguinity! As far as I know they are not in my line--I just thought they were interesting. I'm not looking for a translation but feel free to discuss if you are interested. (I hope my spelling is somewhere near correct...) Two records state the couple terem sido dispensados do primeiro grau mixto de segundo de consanguinidade colateral desigual. Record #1 on the left hand page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911_item1/P82.html Record #6 on the right hand page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911_item1/P86.html -- Another interesting nearby record is the marriage of the brother of the groom in record #1 to another cousin dispensados do segundo grau attingente a primeira de consanguinidade em linha collateral desigual. Record #9 on the left hand page: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911_item1/P89.html - As I said, I'm just posting as a matter of interest. I did not know that first degree was allowed. Also among the records is the marriage of a Joao de Mello Pires from Porto Judeu, Terceira, in case anyone is looking for him! Record starts bottom right: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911/SJR-VL-NORTEGRANDE-C-1900-1911_item1/P90.html When I see the record of a marriage or a death of someone from another island I always wonder if someone is looking for them! Mary -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Newspapers Link
My link to searching the Portuguese newspapers is inoperable. Does someone have the current link handy. I am interested in CA papers if there is a difference. Lisa Caetano Harley Southern Cal -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Bartholomeu Pacheco marriage to Margarida Nunes, Ribeirinha (Terceira) 1718
Thank you Cheri. Philippe: Thank you for all the information. Do you have a document that has Barthomeu Pacheco using the Galhado surname? I have only seen it used for his father, Antonio Fernandes Galhado, on Bartholomeu's marriage to Margarida Nunes. All other records I have found for Antonio show his name as Antonio Fernandes Pacheco. All records I have found for Bartholomeu only show him as Bartholomeu Pacheco. I am especially interested in this because Antonio Fernandes Pacheco and his wife Iria de Azevedo are great grandparents to my 4G-grandfather Manuel Vaz Diniz (married to Catharina Ignacia) through their son João Vaz Pacheco. Antonio Fernandes Galhado and his wife Iria de Azevedo are great grandparents to my 4G-grandmother Catharina Ignacia (married to Manuel Vaz Diniz) through their son Bartholomeu Pacheco. My contention is that Antonio Frz Pacheco and Antonio Frz Galhado are the same person married to the same Iria de Azevedo, which would make Manuel Vaz Diniz and his wife Catharina Ignacia 2nd cousins. In their marriage the priest mentions a 3rd degree dispensation. Another point of confusion I faced was with Pedro Alves/Alvares Rebello because Alves and Alvares seemed to be used interchangeably. I did find a Portuguese Wikipedia entry that seems to explain that Alves originated as an abbreviation for Alvares. Today, I think Alves and Alvares are separate surnames, but I guess that wasn't always the case; they were the same name. Thank you, Bill -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Newspapers Link
Lisa, here is Cheri's shortcut: goo.gl/E19d0e That's a zero after the small d. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 9:39 PM, lisahbskt via Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com wrote: My link to searching the Portuguese newspapers is inoperable. Does someone have the current link handy. I am interested in CA papers if there is a difference. Lisa Caetano Harley Southern Cal -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Little help with Translation
Hi I am looking for a little help with some translation. I understand the child name is Jose Correa d' Azevedo, born to Manoel Correa d' Azevedo and Maria Josefina I know the year, but I do not know the following The date and month Jose was born and the village is Santa Barbara. I think I see something about the Island of Pico but I cannot read all the names of the grandparents. Here are the two links Item #66 on the bottom of page 29 and finish up on page 30 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-B-1 870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-B-1870-1879_item1/P67.html _http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-B- 1870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-B-1870-1879_item1/P68.html Thank you Bob Camacho _ (http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-B-1870-1879/TER-AH-SANTABARBARA-B-1870-1879_item1/P68.html) Researching the Island of Terceira for da Costa, Evangelho, Pacheco, Ferriera Researching the Island of Graciosa for Reis Researching the Island of Madeira for Camacho Researching Brazil for Evangelho -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Bartholomeu Pacheco marriage to Margarida Nunes, Ribeirinha (Terceira) 1718
2nd cousins = 3rd degree of cosanguinity. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to confirm marriage date for Domingos Pereira Evangelho
Mary, I'm not sure if you've received an answer to your query, but I'll add my two cents for what its worth (assuming you won't mind.) If you look at line four you'll see the word onze meaning eleven. It's a bit confusing as the abbreviated word freguesia on line 3 shows the g coming down into the fourth line. After seeing this, I also went back to my book Evoluçao Demográfica de Trés Paróquias do Sul do Pico and then to the CITCEM website to double check the book. Both of these sources also show the eleventh as the date. Word of caution, CITCEM is based on the book so its not a second independent source. I've attached the webpage source for you to peruse. Hope this helps. Gayle P.S. I have several lines from Sao Mateus, although your folks aren't mine. If you ever want to compare notes, let me know. I might be able to help. Also, I have a considerable number of ancestors from neighboring Candelaria, where I've done a lot of extractions for marriages and deaths, if you connect into this freguesia and want assistance. -Original Message- From: Mary Pimentel Wheeler pimwh...@gmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, May 15, 2015 2:40 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Trying to confirm marriage date for Domingos Pereira Evangelho I found a date of marriage in another tree as 1 NOV 1765, Sao Matus, Pico. I am trying to confirm through CCA. I found the following record, but it is one of those hard to read ones, so I wanted to check in and see if anyone can tell if this is even the right record. If so, I will try to translate the rest myself - I need the practice :-) But, I could use your help confirming if this is even the right one. Link: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1748-1795/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1748-1795_item1/P87.html It is the one of the bottom of the left hand page. Looking for casamento for Domingos Pereira Evangelho, 11 NOV 1765, to Maria Jacinta. Thanks, Mary -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. Domingos Pereira Evangelho.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help reading Bartholomeu Pacheco marriage to Margarida Nunes, Ribeirinha (Terceira) 1718
Hi Bill, All I have about Bartolomeu Pacheco and Iria de Azevedo. I hope that help you. Philippe GARNIER Paris - France *Ahnentafel Chart for Maria do Espirito Santo * *First Generation* 1.* Maria do Espirito Santo* was born in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). Maria married1 *Antônio VIEIRA DA COSTA*, son of Antônio VIEIRA DA COSTA and Maria DE SOUSA, on 31 May 1756 in São Miguel o Archanjo das Lajes - Terceira (Açores). Antônio was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). *Second Generation* 2.* Bartholomeo PACHECO GALHARDO* was christened2 in Sep 1694 in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). He died3 on 26 Mar 1785 in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). Bartholomeo married4 Margarida NUNES on 2 Oct 1718 in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Ilha Terceira (Açores). 3.* Margarida NUNES* was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). She died5 on 12 Apr 1740 in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). *Third Generation* 4.* Antônio FERNANDES PACHECO* was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). He married Iria DE AZEVEDO. ou Fernandes Galhardo (casamento de Bartholomeo) 5.* Iria DE AZEVEDO* was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). 6.* Pedro ALVERES REBELO* was born6,7 in Aug 1651 in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). He died8,9 on 15 Sep 1717 in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). Pedro married10,11 Barbara LUCAS VIEIRA on 3 Jul 1678 in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). 7.* Barbara LUCAS VIEIRA*12 was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Ilha Terceira (Açores) and was christened13 on 3 Feb 1657 in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). She died14,15 on 25 Aug 1716 in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Ilha Terceira (Açores). *Fourth Generation* 9.* Maria FERNANDES*16 was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). 11.* Barbara GONSALVES*17 was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). 12.* Pedro ALVERES REBELO*18,19 was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). He married20 Margarida NUNES COELHO on 22 Jun 1637 in São Pedro dos Biscoitos - Terceira (Açores). 13.* Margarida NUNES COELHO*21 was born in São Pedro da Ribeirinha - Terceira (Açores). 14.* Fructuoso PIRES* was born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). He died22 on 8 Dec 1674 in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). Fructuoso married23,24 Margarida NUNES on 2 Feb 1643 in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). 15.* Margarida NUNES* was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). She died25 on 26 Jun 1679 in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). *Fifth Generation* 28.* Asenço RODRIGUES VIEIRA* was born30 in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). He married Catarina DIAS. 29.* Catarina DIAS*31 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). 30.* Andre AFONSO*32,33 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). He married Isabel LUCAS. 31.* Isabel LUCAS*34,35 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). She died36 on 17 Feb 1645 in Esprito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). *Sixth Generation* 60.* Gaspar AFONSO*37 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). He married Andreza DIAS. 61.* Andreza DIAS*38 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). 62.* Salvador LUCAS DE AGUIAR*39,40 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). He married Domingas NUNES COELHO. 63.* Domingas NUNES COELHO*41 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). *Seventh Generation* 124.* Domingos FERREIRA DE AGUIAR*42 was born in Espirito Santo da Vila Nova - Terceira (Açores). He married Maria LUCAS. 125.* Maria LUCAS*43 was born in Santa Barbara das Nove Ribeiras - Terceira (Açores). 126.* Gaspar MARTINS RATINHO*44 was born in São Roque dos Altares - Terceira (Açores). He married Briolanja NUNES COELHO. 127.* Briolanja NUNES COELHO*45,46. *Appendix A - Sources* 1. Arquivos de Angra - Lajes, Livro dos casamentos 1753-1781, fl. 20. 2. Arquivos de Angra - Ribeirinha, ph. 187. 3. Arquivos de Angra - Ribeirinha, L° dos obitos 1746-1790, ph. 155. 4. Arquivos de Angra - Ribeirinha, Livro dos casamentos 1695-1728, fl. 69v. 5. Arquivos de Angra - Ribeirinha, L° dos obitos 1729-1746, ph. 22. 6. Mensagem de Mary Blake, pp. 23-4-2006. 7. Arquivos de Angra - Ribeirinha, ph. 34. 8. Mensagem de Mary Blake, pp. 23-4-2006. 9. Arquivos de Angra - Ribeirinha, ph. 64. 10. Mensagem de Mary Blake, pp. 24-4-2006. 11. Arquivos de Angra - Vila Nova, L° dos casamentos 1673-1721, ph. 12. 12. Mensagem de Mary Blake, pp. 23-4-2006. 13.
