RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship
Thanks for the information. It's still unclear if a language exam will be necessary. Does anyone know? Nancy Jean From: m...@nyu.edu Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:27:28 -0400 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: Azores@googlegroups.com Here is information I received from the Portuguese Citizenship Reconnect organization. Attached are two documents with specific information. Hope this helps! MaryAnn -- Forwarded message -- From: Portuguese Citizenship ptcitizens...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu Good afternoon Ms. MaryAnn Santos, I hope this e-mail finds you well. On 29 July an alteration to the Portuguese Nationality Act was approved in order to consider the grandchildren of Portuguese citizens Portuguese by origin. In sum, under the newly enacted law, obtaining citizenship depends on three requirements: (i) knowledge of the Portuguese language; (ii) regular visits to Portugal; and (iii) the applicant cannot have been found guilty of a crime with a prison sentence over 3 years. I attach hereto our Legal News Alert on the new law. If you feel you meet these requirements, kindly complete the assessment form attached hereto. Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. Best Regards, Lisette-- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - Joam Ignacio de Loura death record
You may be misinterpreting the term testamento. For the purpose of this record, the testament is not a will, but requests and offerings for the priests of the parish to say prayers, such as litanies, masses, communions, and other services, for the repose of his soul, and, deceased members of his family, notably, his wife and children. Remember, this is a religious document - not a state legal document bequeathing money, property, or title to his survivors. On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-4, Ângela Loura wrote: Hi again. I'm trying to read the top right death record for Joam Ignacio de Loura. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835_item1/P71.html I know that at some point it talks about his 'testamento', so i'm curious... Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation on damaged record
Paulo [Pallos] Fernandes and Maria Tavares. Manoel Em domingo, 16 de agosto de 2015 21:44:51 UTC-3, Cheri Mello escreveu: Dad's first name almost looks like Carlos, but I don't think that's it. I can see 11 of May. Godfather Capt. Manuel de _?? Hope this is in Rodrigues or Frutoso. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Ângela Loura angel...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Josepha, daughter of (???) Fernandes and his wife Maria Tavares (?) (...) born... Jesus... what a cy record... A lot of Santa Maria's records look like this or even worse... Such a disappointment :( 2015-08-17 0:52 GMT+01:00 brownat68 brow...@gmail.com javascript:: Hello Can anyone translate the first record on the top right side? It is heavily damaged. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1670-1707/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1670-1707_item1/P49.html This is a distant cousin on mine. My family must have either came from Portugal to both Sao Miguel and Santa Maria or they branched off Sao Miguel to Santa Maria. Todd -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship
Thank you for the information mary Ann Santos. Since I do not speak Portuguese, I guess that leaves me out. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the information. It's still unclear if a language exam will be necessary. Does anyone know? Nancy Jean -- From: m...@nyu.edu Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:27:28 -0400 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: Azores@googlegroups.com Here is information I received from the Portuguese Citizenship Reconnect organization. Attached are two documents with specific information. Hope this helps! MaryAnn -- Forwarded message -- From: *Portuguese Citizenship* ptcitizens...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu Good afternoon Ms. MaryAnn Santos, I hope this e-mail finds you well. On 29 July an alteration to the Portuguese Nationality Act was approved in order to consider the grandchildren of Portuguese citizens Portuguese by origin. In sum, under the newly enacted law, obtaining citizenship depends on three requirements: (i) knowledge of the Portuguese language; (ii) regular visits to Portugal; and (iii) the applicant cannot have been found guilty of a crime with a prison sentence over 3 years. I attach hereto our Legal News Alert on the new law. If you feel you meet these requirements, kindly complete the assessment form attached hereto. Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. Best Regards, Lisette -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Community: Citizenship granted to grandchildren of Portuguese expats – Portugal
Tanya, this is Keith Pimental. What is your connection to Pimental. You can start a new post I guess. or pm me. Sent from Windows Mail From: Tanya Smith Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 1:20 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Would this be possible for me? In my case, it is my mothers father and mother's parents or my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmothers (2 of them). They were all born in the Acores and immigrated to Hawaii when they were children. Tanya Researching Raposo, De Amaral, Pimental On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Jose Medeiros manueljoselj...@gmail.com wrote: Marylyn I would start with a birth certificate of your grandfather or grandmother born in Portugal, Açores or Madeira Then I would get a birth certicicate of your dad or mother that have the names of your grandfather and grandmother Last your own birth certificate with your dad and mother With these 3 documents there should not be any problems proving you are a decendant of Portuguese grandparents On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:32:10 PM UTC-4, HK Pimental wrote: I suggest that you check the Portuguese Consulate webpage which is in English Sent from Windows Mail From: Marilyn Thompson Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 5:58 PM To: azo...@googlegroups.com Would you please post a list of the requirements? Not in full detail, but enough so those who are considering applying will know if they meet the requirements. Thanks On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:16 AM, kpsre...@gmail.com wrote: I haave had much better experiences with the consulates. It is the rule that you must go to the consulate that is assigned your area. So, when we moved from Utah to Portugal 23 years ago we had to use the San Francisco Consulate. We could have done everything by mail but since it was convenient for us we went to SF for the final arrangements. We had no problems and the person in charge of visas was very accommodating and helpful. It has been our experience here in Portugal with the Serviço Estrangeiros and Fronteiras., SEF, that everyone has been very helpful whenever we have needed anything. I am applying for citizenship based on my great grandparents and my desire to live in Portugal. I have a lawyer and everything has been smooth so far. I may have to wait til I have been a residente 5 years unless they grant me a waiver. They occaionally do that if you live in the country and can prove that you have basic language proficiency and a desire to be a part of Portugal. I suggest that you have all of the proff you need and follow the instructions as the consulate gives them to you. I think that if you understand that it is a diferente country with defferent procedures and methods than the USA you will not have any problems. I have certainly found it to be true that I would rather deal with any Portuguese government employee than the department of motor vehicles in any US state From: Jose Medeiros Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 1:43 PM To: azo...@googlegroups.com In dealings w/them very difficult and they think ( not all ) they are a superior being to you I am sure you will not show up at a consulate and say John Smith was my grandfather, born in the Azores and I desire Portuguese citizenship. You better have birth certificates of your family that ties all and all lead to you as the grandchild of your grandfather born in the Azores The consulates in USA especially in the East coast of USA are ridiculous I have a family member that lives in Minnesota and she has to go to Washington DC when she needs the consulate She comes often to Massachusetts yet the consulate in Boston WILL NOT let her do anything there She is lucky because she works for an airline and can get flights to Washington, DC but imagine taking all your family just to do a passport or whatever paper you need and they will not do it in Boston but you have to go to Washington,DC. RIDICULOUS On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 12:19:14 AM UTC-4, Ellen Ade wrote: How difficult? Are there consulates in the US? I currently have a euro passport and Irish citizenship as my azores grandfather married my Irish grandmother - both immigrated, so I am 2nd generation on both sides. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - Joam Ignacio de Loura death record
My great-grandmother did the same. But still, i can't read the document, i don't know what it says besides testamento feito. 2015-08-19 6:13 GMT+01:00 Dano dpai...@gmail.com: You may be misinterpreting the term testamento. For the purpose of this record, the testament is not a will, but requests and offerings for the priests of the parish to say prayers, such as litanies, masses, communions, and other services, for the repose of his soul, and, deceased members of his family, notably, his wife and children. Remember, this is a religious document - not a state legal document bequeathing money, property, or title to his survivors. On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-4, Ângela Loura wrote: Hi again. I'm trying to read the top right death record for Joam Ignacio de Loura. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835_item1/P71.html I know that at some point it talks about his 'testamento', so i'm curious... Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - Joam Ignacio de Loura death record
Angela, The obit describes a legal will and testament registered by the solicitor at law (Tabiliao) on the 12th day of Sep 1828 confirmed/approved by the Judge Doctor (something like Geraldo? Jose de Almeida Goncalves Cabral and opened by said Solicitor Jose de Sousa and it goes on to outline how it was to be distributed with a 1/3 going to his daughter, and in first place to his son Antonio was to be the executor with his son in law second etc.. Looking at this priest's writing I see the surname as Laura. Perhaps it is Loura but not how he's writing his O's and A's. I'm away and unable to translate it in detail but at least you have the gist of it. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ângela Loura angelalo...@gmail.com wrote: My great-grandmother did the same. But still, i can't read the document, i don't know what it says besides testamento feito. 2015-08-19 6:13 GMT+01:00 Dano dpai...@gmail.com: You may be misinterpreting the term testamento. For the purpose of this record, the testament is not a will, but requests and offerings for the priests of the parish to say prayers, such as litanies, masses, communions, and other services, for the repose of his soul, and, deceased members of his family, notably, his wife and children. Remember, this is a religious document - not a state legal document bequeathing money, property, or title to his survivors. On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-4, Ângela Loura wrote: Hi again. I'm trying to read the top right death record for Joam Ignacio de Loura. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835_item1/P71.html I know that at some point it talks about his 'testamento', so i'm curious... Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride Groom's Parents
Jessica, First I want to tell you that I didn't research this family. It was done by my husband's cousin, Sister Sandra Ann Silva SHF. I guess she is also your cousin too.. I hope this is not too confusing. I didn't know if you wanted any children of these couples, but I included them. Ignore them if you want. You line seems to match up with my husbands. Have you tested your DNA. If so you may find a Joseph A. Salvador listed as a cousin and you will have a clue where the matches are. 1. Manoel de Barcelos bp. May 24, 1698 Santa Barbara, Fonte Bastardo, son of (2)Domingos de Aguiar de Andrade and (3) Lucrecia Camella b. Sao Sebastiao . He married Maria de Santa Antonio. 2. Domingos de Aguiar de Andrade b. ? d. Aug. 8, 1706 F.B. son of (4) Manoel de Barcelos de Andrade and (5) Catarina Ferreira de Avila. 3 Lucrecia Camella b. ? Sao Sebastiao d. Oct. 2, 1734 F.B. dg. of (6) Sebastiao da Costa of Sao Sebastiao and (7) Maria Pacheco, F.B. 4. Manoel de Barcelos de Andrade 5.Catarina Ferreira de Avila 6. Sebastiao da Costa b. Sao Sebastiao 7 Maria Pacheco b. F.B. d. Jul 10, 1724 F.B. Domingos de Andrade and Lucrecia Camella children i Manoel de Barcelos bp. May 24, 1693 married Jan. 8, 1720, FB Maria de Santa Antonio b. Jun 17, 1698 F.B. d. Feb. 17,1736 F.B. ii Joanna bp.. Sep 13, 1695 iii Josefa bp. Mar. 23, 1698 FB iv Antonio bp. Apr 24, 1700 FB v Maria da Conceicao bp. Apr. 24, 1700 FB m. Aug. 1, 1714 FB to Joao Vieira vi Joanna b. Mar 16, 1701 FB Manoel de Barcelos and Maria de Santa Antonio dg. of Joao Toste, Sargento, and Angela de Aguiar b. Jul 26, 1692 children i Maria de Sao Joseph b. Nov. 2, 1720 m. Manoel Machado Corvelho on Jul 22, 1748 FB ii Andre b. Nov. 23, 1722 FB iii Antonio b. Oct. 15, 1724 FB iv Manoel b. Oct. 15, 1724 FB v Manoel b. Apr 4. 1727 FB vi Joseph b. Jan 23, 1728 FB vii Rosa b. Feb. 2, 1730 FB viii Sebastiao b. Jan 12, 1732 ix Catarina b. Nov 14, 1733 x Pedro b/ Dec 5, 1735 Joao Toste, Sgt. bp Jul 15, 1668 FB son of Nicolao Toste and Maria Gomes of Cabo da Praia m. ? Angela de Aguiar, bp.Jul 26, 1682 d. Apr 8, 1712 FB Children i Nicolas Toste bp. Sep. 16, 1696 FB ii Maria de Santa Antonia bp Jun 17, 1698, d. Feb. 17,1736 FB m. Jan.8, 1720 FB Manoel de Barcelos iii Josefa Maria b. Oct. 13, 1700 m. Manoel Ferreira of Lages on Nov. 12, 1725 FB son of Manoel Ferreira and Ignes Vieira of Lages iv Rosa Maria b. Jun 29,1703 d. Dec 27, 1705 FB v Joao b. Mar. 29, 1705 FB vi Antonio b Apr 25, 1707 FB vii Rosa Maria b. Dec 7, 1708 FB Nicolas Toste b. Sep.10, 1627FB, d. Nov.5, 1686 FB son of Joao Vaz FB and Barbara Toste, He married Maria Gomes, on Nov. 26, 1657. She was bp. Jun 9, 1633,and died on Jan 22, 1693 Cabo da Praia, . she was the dg. of Manoel Goncalves of Cabo da Praia and Apolonia Gomes of Cabo da Praia. Children of Nicolas and Maria Gomes I Maria bp Sep 1,1658 FB ii Manoel bp. May 16, 1660 FB iii Joseph ? d. 3/20/1669 FB vi Joao Toste, Sgt. bp. Jul 15, 1668 FB v Joseph bp. Oct. 26,1672 vi Joseph bp. 1680 vii Nicolas bp. ? m. Antonio de Aguiar Jesica, let me know if I can help you. You may ask me anything. I didn't want to go further because I know these four couples are you ancestors, but I wasn't sure if you branched off somewhere. Helen Vierra Salvador Fremont, CA -Original Message- From: Jessica Lima socialb...@hotmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Aug 18, 2015 2:56 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride Groom's Parents Hi Helen, Thank you for the clarification on the names. I would LOVE some more information! Maria de Sao Antonio is from the 10th generation of a maternal line that reaches my great-grandfather,Julio Goncalves da Costa, in Fonte Bastardo. Any added information about Manuel Maria would be greatly cherished. Thanks so much, Jessica Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 03:04:45 -0400 From: azores@googlegroups.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride Groom's Parents Jessica, The groom is Manuel de Barcellos son of Domingos de Aguiar de Andrade and Lucrecia Camella. The bride is Maria de Sao Antonio dg. of Joao Toste and Angela de Aguiar. Manuel is my husband's 6th great grandfather. I have more info if you would like, Helen Salvador Fremont, Ca. researching Terceira, Santa Maria, Pico, Graciosa and Flores his...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Jessica Lima socialb...@hotmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2015 2:55 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Names of Bride Groom's Parents Jessica
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with names in Faial
Line by line: On the 20 and 9 day of the month of January of the year (hyphenated) year 1000 900 and 3, in this Church parish of Nossa Senhora das Dores, fre- guesia of Praia do Norte, council of Hor- ta, Diocese of Angra, in my presence some- thing the betrothed =Manuel Francisco d'Andrade and Angelina Emilia d'Andrade (church stuff here for 2 lines...something along the lines of he properly knows them and they have the correct papers in the current format/style) without impediment canonical or civil he, of 20 and 9 years of age, single worker, native and living in this fre- guesia, where he was baptized, son legitimate of Jose Francisco d'Andrade and Angelica Emilia da Conceicao of this fre- guesia and baptized in the freguesia of Capel- lo of this same council and Diocese, and she, also single, of the profession domestic, of 20 years of age... The next part I can't literally translate, but the father is giving his permission for her to marry. They also fulfilled their Lenten duties... 6th line from bottom: daughter legitmate of Francisco Sil- veira de Mattos and Maria Angelica do Corocao de Jesus, natives and living in- this referenced freguesia It goes on saying stuff like they did the marriage according to the rites of the Holy Catholic Church. Page 2 has the witnesses. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:32 PM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com wrote: I was off on his birth year. It is neither of them above and I'm not sure what year he was born. I confirmed him and his wife's name through my grandfather's birth certificate, This should be his wedding information: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-C-1861-1910/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-C-1861-1910_item1/P144.html I can make out a couple of names which I think are his parents, but I want to be sure. Are Angeleica Emilia's parents listed here too or just Manuel's? Thanks! On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 4:46:20 PM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote: Thanks! I do know this site. On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:32:57 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Sean, it is now called the CITCEM-GHP site. We usually call it by the old acronym, NEPS. The link is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html After a few page clicks, you will get to the British flag for English. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What is the uminho site? Thanks! On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 8:50:46 AM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: Go to the uminho site, find the town on the Faial list, use the names you know, find the recording of this entry...compare to the record. Eric Edgar On Aug 17, 2015 9:10 PM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I came across these two baptisms for Manuel in Faial. they are both in 1898 but I am having trouble with the names and relationships. It looks like some of the names are d'andrade, but I am having trouble making out everything else. Any help is greatly appreciated. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P50.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P53.html Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?
I believe it is a lugar in the freguesia of São Sebastião. Bill Seidler On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 8:04:02 PM UTC-7, Jessica Lima wrote: Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out where Manuel's mother is from. His baptism (bottom left) lists his mother Maria Felicia from Ribeira Seca? I know it's in Terceira but that isn't a freguesia is it? And if it is a freguesia it doesn't have church books? Jessica http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796_item1/P96.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-B-1846-1851_item1/P180.html I’m having a little trouble reading the dates of the birth and baptism of my Great Granfather. I believe the birth is 14 January 1851 and the baptism is 25 January 1851. I’m also trying to understand which family is from Rosto de Cão and which is from Rabo de Peixe. Any translation help is greatly appreicated. Thanks! Joanne Grota Mercier -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation - Manoel Martins de Gouveia Baptism 1851, Rabo de Peixe
I see the dates exactly as you see them. I believe the father, José Martins de Gouveia and his parents, Manuel Martins de Gouveia and Maria da Luz are all from Senhor Bom Jesus, Rabo de Peixe. I believe the mother, Barbara da Concepção and her parents, Luiz Pereira and Catherina Izabel are all from Nossa Senhora do Livramento, Rosto do Cão. Bill Seidler -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship
I would not worry so much as to speak fluently A few words and you must understand some Like the old days of US citizenship I live in the white house I have a car Most important are those papers connecting you to your ancestors On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 11:19:51 AM UTC-4, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Thank you for the information mary Ann Santos. Since I do not speak Portuguese, I guess that leaves me out. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:46 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishso...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks for the information. It's still unclear if a language exam will be necessary. Does anyone know? Nancy Jean -- From: ma...@nyu.edu javascript: Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 06:27:28 -0400 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Here is information I received from the Portuguese Citizenship Reconnect organization. Attached are two documents with specific information. Hope this helps! MaryAnn -- Forwarded message -- From: *Portuguese Citizenship* ptciti...@gmail.com javascript: Date: Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Interested in Portuguese citizenship To: MaryAnn Santos ma...@nyu.edu javascript: Good afternoon Ms. MaryAnn Santos, I hope this e-mail finds you well. On 29 July an alteration to the Portuguese Nationality Act was approved in order to consider the grandchildren of Portuguese citizens Portuguese by origin. In sum, under the newly enacted law, obtaining citizenship depends on three requirements: (i) knowledge of the Portuguese language; (ii) regular visits to Portugal; and (iii) the applicant cannot have been found guilty of a crime with a prison sentence over 3 years. I attach hereto our Legal News Alert on the new law. If you feel you meet these requirements, kindly complete the assessment form attached hereto. Feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns. Best Regards, Lisette -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santo Espirito, Santa Maria - Joam Ignacio de Loura death record
Thanks Margaret! Em quarta-feira, 19 de agosto de 2015, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com escreveu: Angela, The obit describes a legal will and testament registered by the solicitor at law (Tabiliao) on the 12th day of Sep 1828 confirmed/approved by the Judge Doctor (something like Geraldo? Jose de Almeida Goncalves Cabral and opened by said Solicitor Jose de Sousa and it goes on to outline how it was to be distributed with a 1/3 going to his daughter, and in first place to his son Antonio was to be the executor with his son in law second etc.. Looking at this priest's writing I see the surname as Laura. Perhaps it is Loura but not how he's writing his O's and A's. I'm away and unable to translate it in detail but at least you have the gist of it. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Ângela Loura angelalo...@gmail.com wrote: My great-grandmother did the same. But still, i can't read the document, i don't know what it says besides testamento feito. 2015-08-19 6:13 GMT+01:00 Dano dpai...@gmail.com: You may be misinterpreting the term testamento. For the purpose of this record, the testament is not a will, but requests and offerings for the priests of the parish to say prayers, such as litanies, masses, communions, and other services, for the repose of his soul, and, deceased members of his family, notably, his wife and children. Remember, this is a religious document - not a state legal document bequeathing money, property, or title to his survivors. On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 11:51:25 AM UTC-4, Ângela Loura wrote: Hi again. I'm trying to read the top right death record for Joam Ignacio de Loura. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-O-1820-1835_item1/P71.html I know that at some point it talks about his 'testamento', so i'm curious... Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Margaret M Vicente -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with names in Faial
I was off on his birth year. It is neither of them above and I'm not sure what year he was born. I confirmed him and his wife's name through my grandfather's birth certificate, This should be his wedding information: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-C-1861-1910/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-C-1861-1910_item1/P144.html I can make out a couple of names which I think are his parents, but I want to be sure. Are Angeleica Emilia's parents listed here too or just Manuel's? Thanks! On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 4:46:20 PM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote: Thanks! I do know this site. On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 1:32:57 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: Sean, it is now called the CITCEM-GHP site. We usually call it by the old acronym, NEPS. The link is here: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html After a few page clicks, you will get to the British flag for English. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What is the uminho site? Thanks! On Tuesday, August 18, 2015 at 8:50:46 AM UTC-7, luiznoia wrote: Go to the uminho site, find the town on the Faial list, use the names you know, find the recording of this entry...compare to the record. Eric Edgar On Aug 17, 2015 9:10 PM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I came across these two baptisms for Manuel in Faial. they are both in 1898 but I am having trouble with the names and relationships. It looks like some of the names are d'andrade, but I am having trouble making out everything else. Any help is greatly appreciated. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P50.html http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911/FAL-HT-PRAIADONORTE-B-1893-1911_item1/P53.html Thanks! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?
Jessica Ribeira Seca is located between Fonte Bastardo and Sao Sebastiao on the map. Don't know anything about a church there Helen -Original Message- From: Jessica Lima socialb...@hotmail.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Aug 19, 2015 8:04 pm Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira? Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out where Manuel's mother is from. His baptism (bottom left) lists his mother Maria Felicia from Ribeira Seca? I know it's in Terceira but that isn't a freguesia is it? And if it is a freguesia it doesn't have church books? Jessica http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796_item1/P96.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?
Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out where Manuel's mother is from. His baptism (bottom left) lists his mother Maria Felicia from Ribeira Seca? I know it's in Terceira but that isn't a freguesia is it? And if it is a freguesia it doesn't have church books? Jessica http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796_item1/P96.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Where is Ribeira Seca in Terceira?
Jessica, You need to go to Kathy Cardoza's site: AzoresGenWeb and download the map of Terceira and below if you scroll down you will see all the villages and church names. Everyone needs to do this everytime they search a new Island. Kathy has gone to a lot of trouble to help us in this way we all need to use it! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:03 PM, Jessica Lima socialb...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I am trying to figure out where Manuel's mother is from. His baptism (bottom left) lists his mother Maria Felicia from Ribeira Seca? I know it's in Terceira but that isn't a freguesia is it? And if it is a freguesia it doesn't have church books? Jessica http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796/TER-PV-FONTEDOBASTARDO-B-1722-1796_item1/P96.html -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
