[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Please!

[linda]

Yup, I think Bill's correct.

I was so focused on finding the dates in the records that I missed that the 
names didn't match those in the OP.  Poor attention to detail.

thanks Bill!

On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 10:39:01 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The one you identify as Maria Terra I see as Rosa, daughter of João 
> Ferreira Goularte (using the abbreviations Ferr.a  G.te).  It is 
> consistent in both records that Ferr.a  ends with a dot under a raised 
> "a".  The dot signifies an abbreviation.  If you were thinking this was 
> Terra, I think you may have the wrong record.  
>
>
>  I could be wrong so I have attached the links to the CCA records so other 
> might take a look.
>
>
> Rosa (given on attachment as Maria Terra):  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P150.html
>  (center 
> left)
>
> and Joao: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P122.html
>  (center 
> right)
>
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 7:29:10 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>  I am not very good at reading the old records.  I was so happy to have 
>> found my great-great-grandmothers (Maria Emelia Rosa Terra) birth from 1855 
>> an another one of a brother Joao from a few years earlier. I ave no clue 
>> about the date though.  Im going to attach both.  If someone could 
>> translate both entries I would be so very appreciative!  
>> J
>>
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Please!

[bsei2816]

The one you identify as Maria Terra I see as Rosa, daughter of João 
Ferreira Goularte (using the abbreviations Ferr.a  G.te).  It is consistent 
in both records that Ferr.a  ends with a dot under a raised "a".  The dot 
signifies an abbreviation.  If you were thinking this was Terra, I think 
you may have the wrong record.  


 I could be wrong so I have attached the links to the CCA records so other 
might take a look.


Rosa (given on attachment as Maria Terra):  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P150.html
 (center 
left)

and Joao: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860/PIC-LJ-SAOJOAO-B-1841-1860_item1/P122.html
 (center 
right)


Bill

 



On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 7:29:10 PM UTC-7, j Bc wrote:
>
> Hello!
>  I am not very good at reading the old records.  I was so happy to have 
> found my great-great-grandmothers (Maria Emelia Rosa Terra) birth from 1855 
> an another one of a brother Joao from a few years earlier. I ave no clue 
> about the date though.  Im going to attach both.  If someone could 
> translate both entries I would be so very appreciative!  
> J
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Please!

[linda]

Hi J,


Welcome to the group!  And congratulations on finding those records :D  


The dates in the 19th century records are typically written out in words.  
Here's a clip of the information you asked for in Maria's record.






The birthday starts with the last word in the first line, "nasceo".  
"...nasceo aos des e seis de Fev.ro de mil outo centos cincouenta, e cinco 
em o dia vinte dad.o mez, e anno foi baptisada..."

so, Maria was born on the 16th of February 1855 and baptised on the 20th of 
the same month.

If I read it right, Joao was born on 30 April 1851 and baptized on the 6th 
of May.

The red arrows you added to point to the entries were really helpful.  I 
think the preferred protocol for posting records on this forum is to post a 
link to the CCA records, though.  It does make it easier to use the 
built-in magnification and up-scaling to view the records on a variety of 
browser platforms.

best of luck in your research!

Linda

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> Hello!
>  I am not very good at reading the old records.  I was so happy to have 
> found my great-great-grandmothers (Maria Emelia Rosa Terra) birth from 1855 
> an another one of a brother Joao from a few years earlier. I ave no clue 
> about the date though.  Im going to attach both.  If someone could 
> translate both entries I would be so very appreciative!  
> J
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with marriage and birth please.

[JR]

Are you sure the father's name has Seixas? I don't see that in the marriage 
record. The questionable name on the other side is Freytas (Freitas). Best 
advice is to look around the neighbouring parishes, like Sao Pedro or Sao 
Jose. You might even find them in Lagoa.

JR

On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 4:55:39 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:
>
> Andre Pereira fo Manoel Furtado Seixas and Maria Pereira married Joanna de 
> Espirito Santo Cabral fa Manoel Rodrigues? Teitas? and Isabel Cabral 12 Nov 
> 1735.  I cannot seem to find her parents or her birth in Sao Sebastiao.  
>
> Marriage--top left.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1732-1749/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1732-1749_item1/P23.html
>
> Andre and Joanna had a daughter, Anna, born in Sao Sebastiao and I lost 
> them.
>
> Birth--top right.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1736-1740/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1736-1740_item1/P45.html
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madrinha of Bento son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks for the beautiful pictures, Joe!


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On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Joe Matias  wrote:

> The other word I believe is Do Convento (Convent)
> Here is a picture of the Convent
> https://goo.gl/YlaZn3
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Joe Matias 
> wrote:
>
>> Could be an  abbreviation for nun (Freira)
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Erica Botelho <
>> audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Baptismal record for Bento, son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo
>>> Andre – Right side, bottom entry
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P98.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the madrinha, Reverend Mother Anna Margarida Joaquina of the
>>> religious order Santo Andre of Villa Franca? I am confident of her name, it
>>> is the abbreviations before her name and the two words after her name that
>>> I am unsure of.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> Erica Botelho
>>>
>>> Vancouver, WA
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please!

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Dear Bc,

It would be a lot easier for us to try and read if you posted the link to
the CCA record. That way we can make the image larger and zoom in on what
is needed.


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> Hello!
>  I am not very good at reading the old records.  I was so happy to have
> found my great-great-grandmothers (Maria Emelia Rosa Terra) birth from 1855
> an another one of a brother Joao from a few years earlier. I ave no clue
> about the date though.  Im going to attach both.  If someone could
> translate both entries I would be so very appreciative!
> J
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madrinha of Bento son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre

[Erica Botelho]

Thank you Joe and Sandra!

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe 
Matias
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 10:06 AM
To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madrinha of Bento son of Jose Francisco and 
Jacinta de Santo Andre

 

The other word I believe is Do Convento (Convent)

Here is a picture of the Convent

https://goo.gl/YlaZn3

 

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Joe Matias  wrote:

Could be an  abbreviation for nun (Freira)

 

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Erica Botelho 
 wrote:

Baptismal record for Bento, son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre – 
Right side, bottom entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P98.html

 

Is the madrinha, Reverend Mother Anna Margarida Joaquina of the religious order 
Santo Andre of Villa Franca? I am confident of her name, it is the 
abbreviations before her name and the two words after her name that I am unsure 
of.

 

Thank you in advance,

Erica Botelho

Vancouver, WA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madrinha of Bento son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre

[Joe Matias]

The other word I believe is Do Convento (Convent)
Here is a picture of the Convent
https://goo.gl/YlaZn3

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Joe Matias  wrote:

> Could be an  abbreviation for nun (Freira)
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Erica Botelho <
> audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:
>
>> Baptismal record for Bento, son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo
>> Andre – Right side, bottom entry
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P98.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the madrinha, Reverend Mother Anna Margarida Joaquina of the religious
>> order Santo Andre of Villa Franca? I am confident of her name, it is the
>> abbreviations before her name and the two words after her name that I am
>> unsure of.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> Erica Botelho
>>
>> Vancouver, WA
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] ancestors from Santo Antonio Sao Miguel

[anaroots689]

I am currently researching my ancestor Francisca de Viveiros born Sep 12 
1650 died Nov 8 1717 in santo Antonio , sao Miguel  I am currently looking 
for anything about her any information any one can help with. Please and 
thank you 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Big help

[bsei2816]

Groom: Jose Silveira, son of Matheus Silveira, deceased, and his wife Rita 
Maria
Bride:   Rita Maria, daughter of Jose?(J.e?) Garcia, deceased, and his wife 
Anna Maria
Bride and Groom are both from this parish.

The reference to 1836 is about lent obligations.  Bride and groom were both 
"disobrigado" for the lent of 1836 at this parish and the groom was for the 
last two also.  The bride was "disobrigada" for the last two at Nossa 
Senhora da Conceicao in the city of Horta.  I'm not sure if I am stating 
this correctly because I am familiar with church practices and am not sure 
what being disobligated for the last three lents really means; but I know 
that it is usually stated in these records.  Someone in this group posted a 
record recently that showed a dispensation given so some who had not 
satisfied this could marry.

Bill

On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 6:46:54 AM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847_item1/P65.html
>
> Top right  
>  I'm at a loss with this one.  
> It's not who I thought it was so if you could give it to me completely.
> Jose Silveira  filho of Mathew Silveira???Rita Maria??
> August 3, 1838  At least I got that
> Then it says something about 1836?
>
> Bride and Groom
> Parents of Bride  
> Parents of Groom
>
> THX
> Liz
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with marriage and birth please.

[Sandra Perez]

Andre Pereira fo Manoel Furtado Seixas and Maria Pereira married Joanna de
Espirito Santo Cabral fa Manoel Rodrigues? Teitas? and Isabel Cabral 12 Nov
1735.  I cannot seem to find her parents or her birth in Sao Sebastiao.

Marriage--top left.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1732-1749/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1732-1749_item1/P23.html

Andre and Joanna had a daughter, Anna, born in Sao Sebastiao and I lost
them.

Birth--top right.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1736-1740/SMG-PD-SAOSEBASTIAO-B-1736-1740_item1/P45.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madrinha of Bento son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre

[Sandra Perez]

I think you are correct.

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Erica Botelho <
audiosource...@qwestoffice.net> wrote:

> Baptismal record for Bento, son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo
> Andre – Right side, bottom entry
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P98.html
>
>
>
> Is the madrinha, Reverend Mother Anna Margarida Joaquina of the religious
> order Santo Andre of Villa Franca? I am confident of her name, it is the
> abbreviations before her name and the two words after her name that I am
> unsure of.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Erica Botelho
>
> Vancouver, WA
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Madrinha of Bento son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre

[Erica Botelho]

Baptismal record for Bento, son of Jose Francisco and Jacinta de Santo Andre
- Right side, bottom entry

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1
776/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1769-1776_item1/P98.html

 

Is the madrinha, Reverend Mother Anna Margarida Joaquina of the religious
order Santo Andre of Villa Franca? I am confident of her name, it is the
abbreviations before her name and the two words after her name that I am
unsure of.

 

Thank you in advance,

Erica Botelho

Vancouver, WA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Was this woman employed as something, rather than being a domestic?

['Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy]

Wow, that is great information on the grooms' father's and brides father! 
 Thank you all for your help!  I was hoping that the brides daughter 
learned her spintress vocation from her mother that's why I asked.  Thanks 
again!
Lillian

On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 6:47:28 AM UTC-7, mlmg0812 wrote:
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> Lillian,
> That's what I coul read:
>
> "...ela, de idade de vinte e um annos, cuja ocupação ordinária é o serviço 
> doméstico, natural de ..."
>
> ...she, 21 years old, single, whose regular occupation is domestic 
> service...
>
> (Domestic services - 6th line from botton to top, right side).
>
> Marcelo
>
> Enviado do meu iPhone
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> Em 12 de mar de 2016, às 20:18, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > escreveu:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1860-1869/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1860-1869_item1/P85.html
>
> On the right hand side, for Albano Caetano de Pimentel and Marianna 
> Augusta, 10th line down, usually I see domestica but this says something 
> else.  Anyone have an idea?  Her daughter was a spinstress of wool or flax 
> if that's a clue.
>
> Much appreciated.
>
> Lillian
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Was this woman employed as something, rather than being a domestic?

[Marcelo Goncalves]

Lillian,
That's what I coul read:

"...ela, de idade de vinte e um annos, cuja ocupação ordinária é o serviço 
doméstico, natural de ..."

...she, 21 years old, single, whose regular occupation is domestic service...

(Domestic services - 6th line from botton to top, right side).

Marcelo

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> Em 12 de mar de 2016, às 20:18, 'Lillian Palko' via Azores Genealogy 
>  escreveu:
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1860-1869/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1860-1869_item1/P85.html
> 
> On the right hand side, for Albano Caetano de Pimentel and Marianna Augusta, 
> 10th line down, usually I see domestica but this says something else.  Anyone 
> have an idea?  Her daughter was a spinstress of wool or flax if that's a clue.
> 
> Much appreciated.
> 
> Lillian
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help

[Liz Migliori]

Thank you so much for your help
Hard time reading those crummy and smaller records.  
I think this might possibly be a connection just have to dig a bit more

Again Thx
Liz

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> On Mar 12, 2016, at 9:21 AM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:
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> The top left is Antonio, filho de Antonio da Roza and his wife Maria Ritta 
> born 17 December 1819, baptized on 19 December. 
> 
> If you meant the top right, that is Antonio, filho de Thomas Francisco and 
> his wife Maria Rita.  The dates are as you wrote.  Grandparents are not 
> listed.  Correia is not listed as part of the father's name but it still 
> could be who you are looking for.
> 
>> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 8:40:15 PM UTC-8, Lizmig wrote:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823/FAL-HT-CEDROS-B-1813-1823_item1/P78.html
>> 
>> top left.
>> Does this read
>> Antonio son of Thomas Francisco Correia and Maria Rita 
>> born Nov 26, 1819  Bap Nov 29?
>> Are there grandparents there or is this some of those years that only have 
>> godparents?  Really messy.
>> 
>> thx
>> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help

[Elizabeth Migliori]

Well OK then.   I could have sworn I was on the right track.
I am sorry for the inconvenience.

Liz

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> I'm not going to look again. The Antonio you requested was NOT the son of
> the people you are looking for.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Big help

[Elizabeth Migliori]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847_item1/P65.html

Top right
 I'm at a loss with this one.
It's not who I thought it was so if you could give it to me completely.
Jose Silveira  filho of Mathew Silveira???Rita Maria??
August 3, 1838  At least I got that
Then it says something about 1836?

Bride and Groom
Parents of Bride
Parents of Groom

THX
Liz

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