Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport informaiton

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Thanks so much, Diane! That sure helps when trying to read the columns.

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Diane George 
wrote:

> With the help of Google Translate, here is what I get for the columns:
>
>
>
> Date
>
>Year
>
>Month
>
>Day
>
> Passport Number
>
> Names
>
> Status
>
> Profession
>
> Age
>
> Characterisics
>
>Height
>
>Shape of Face
>
>Hair Color
>
>Eyebrow Color
>
>Eye Color
>
>Nose
>
>Mouth
>
>Coloring
>
> Destination
>
> Accompanied By
>
> Nativity
>
>Island
>
>Council
>
>Frequesia
>
> Knows How to Write (Yes or No)
>
> Name of Ship
>
> Comments
>
>
>
> I can’t decipher all the contents of the columns, but the face shape
> includes round, colors include brown, black and blue, coloring includes
> swarthy and clear. Still working on some of the others that might be
> abbreviated.
>
>
>
> I saved the page from CCA to my desktop, then used the built-in Windows
> Photo viewer (Windows 10-Photos) by double-clicking on the image. I was
> able to enlarge it to a much higher magnification than on the CCA site. The
> Photo viewer also has some built-in editing tools that allow you to enhance
> the image.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps some.
>
>
>
> Diane George
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Elizabeth Migliori
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 20, 2016 7:44 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport informaiton
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P10.html
>
> Can someone please tell me what all is said on this passport page.
>
> Both the 3rd and 4th lines from top
>
> Manuel Correia da Silva #65
>
> Jose Silveira Santa #66
>
> can only blow up so far and can't tell what columns are for
>
> Liz
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Death Certificates

[Cheri Mello]

When I used to accompany my mom to the doctor, I gave him a pedigree chart
listing the cause of death for her ancestors. Only problem with my mom's
family is mostly they were rural people and the doctors back in time
weren't like today's doctors at all.  She had a lot of people just dying of
"old age." They just didn't know back then.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Death Certificates

[carabela via Azores Genealogy]

I am a collector of death certificates for health reason for my family. I'm 
with you on that one! It is important for descendants to know what they might 
be able to prevent or watch for. Death certificates can be very helpful! They 
should be as correct as possible! 


Years ago, my Mom was having a physical & a heart issue showed up. The Dr. 
asked her if there were heart problems in the family. She told him there were 
none that she knew of. She called to tell me about her Dr. visit. I told her 
there were many heart problems on one side. I sent her a pedigree chart with 
the causes of death written on it. It was helpful to her & her Dr. 


People assume vital records are accurate. We forget that humans are filling 
them out & as we all know, "human's make mistakes". I think it is important to 
correct vital records when we find errors. Future generations may need them.
Sherry



-Original Message-
From: Theresa Entin 
To: azores 
Sent: Thu, Apr 21, 2016 8:38 am
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Death Certificates


I had the same kind of issue with my cousin’s death certificate, I was in 
charge of her estate.  The doctor at the nursing home where she died, stated 
the cause of death as breast cancer.  When I received the death certificate 
from the funeral home after her death.  I called the doctors’ office.  We had a 
go around, he didn’t want to correct it, it had already been filed at the 
State.  I said, she had lung cancer (a smoker)  first, brain and then bone.  
The cause was the lung cancer!  I felt for our descendants looking at death 
certificates there was a big difference between a lung cancer then a 
genetically passed breast cancer.  The doctor was not happy, but he finally  
issued a new certificate.




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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport informaiton

[Diane George]

With the help of Google Translate, here is what I get for the columns:

 

Date

   Year

   Month

   Day

Passport Number

Names

Status

Profession

Age

Characterisics

   Height

   Shape of Face

   Hair Color

   Eyebrow Color   

   Eye Color

   Nose

   Mouth

   Coloring

Destination

Accompanied By

Nativity

   Island

   Council

   Frequesia

Knows How to Write (Yes or No)

Name of Ship

Comments

 

I can’t decipher all the contents of the columns, but the face shape includes 
round, colors include brown, black and blue, coloring includes swarthy and 
clear. Still working on some of the others that might be abbreviated.

 

I saved the page from CCA to my desktop, then used the built-in Windows Photo 
viewer (Windows 10-Photos) by double-clicking on the image. I was able to 
enlarge it to a much higher magnification than on the CCA site. The Photo 
viewer also has some built-in editing tools that allow you to enhance the 
image. 

 

Hope this helps some.

 

Diane George

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Elizabeth Migliori
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 7:44 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport informaiton

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P10.html

Can someone please tell me what all is said on this passport page.

Both the 3rd and 4th lines from top

Manuel Correia da Silva #65

Jose Silveira Santa #66

can only blow up so far and can't tell what columns are for

Liz

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA's DNA Day Sale (Through Tuesday, April 26, 11:59 pm CDT)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross-posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes)

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has given us admins a few hours warning on this
sale.

To commemorate the discovery of DNA, Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) is having a
sale! They gave us admins a few hours warning.

The sale will begin today, Thursday, April 21, no later than 5 pm CDT. The
sale will end on Tuesday, April 26, at 11:59 pm CDT.

If you have already tested and would like a different type of DNA test, log
into your existing kit and order and upgrade.  If you are brand new to DNA
testing, order through your respective project (if you have both Azores and
Madeira ancestry, just pick one. You can join the 2nd one later. Drop one
of us an email and we can tell you how to join a 2nd project).

Existing customers: Log into your DNA page.
Azores: https://goo.gl/mb7nJ6
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Cape Verde: https://goo.gl/1IpkIl

Below is what is on sale (beginning around 5 pm CDT). Add $12.95 S&H to
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*Product*

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  $268

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  $359

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  $575

$460

SNP Packs

  $119

$109

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Passport informaiton

[Liz Migliori]

I'll try it.   Thx

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2016, at 10:14 PM, linda  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Liz,
> 
> Are you using a PC?  If so, try holding down the CTRL key on your keyboard 
> and scrolling your mouse-wheel down at the same time.  Doing that should 
> enlarge the whole picture on your screen.
> 
> 
> Characteristics look like:
> 
>  Altura/height, [/can't read], Cabelho/hair, [?/maybe eyebrows??],  
> olhos/eyes,  Nariz/nose,  Bocca/mouth, Cor/[complexion] color
> 
> :)
> 
> Linda
> 
>> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 9:44:09 PM UTC-7, Lizmig wrote:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P10.html
>> 
>> Can someone please tell me what all is said on this passport page.
>> Both the 3rd and 4th lines from top
>> Manuel Correia da Silva #65
>> Jose Silveira Santa #66
>> 
>> can only blow up so far and can't tell what columns are for
>> 
>> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Passport informaiton

[Liz Migliori]

Thx yes really blurry and small even when blown up. 
Wish I knew what it said in the columns. Only could figure Preto.   Guessing 
for hair or eyes or something
Thx

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Date (year month day)
> Number of passaporte
> Names
> Status (single, married)
> Profession
> Age
> That Signaes caracteristicos...they are describing their characteristics. 
> It's gets too blurry on me. The first one is height, next one might be shape 
> of face (not sure), next one might be hair color (not sure), 4th one is color 
> of something, next one is eyes, nose, mouth, last one I can't tell.
> 
> Next page:
> Destination
> Who is accompanying them
> Nativity (Island, council, freguesia)
> Know how to write (can't make out subcolumns)
> Name of ship
> Observations
> 
> Hopefully, someone can get the other columns.
> 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
> Achada
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Elizabeth Migliori  
>> wrote:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P10.html
>> 
>> Can someone please tell me what all is said on this passport page.
>> Both the 3rd and 4th lines from top
>> Manuel Correia da Silva #65
>> Jose Silveira Santa #66
>> 
>> can only blow up so far and can't tell what columns are for
>> 
>> Liz
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Death Certificates

[Theresa Entin]

I had the same kind of issue with my cousin’s death certificate, I was in 
charge of her estate.  The doctor at the nursing home where she died, stated 
the cause of death as breast cancer.  When I received the death certificate 
from the funeral home after her death.  I called the doctors’ office.  We had a 
go around, he didn’t want to correct it, it had already been filed at the 
State.  I said, she had lung cancer (a smoker)  first, brain and then bone.  
The cause was the lung cancer!  I felt for our descendants looking at death 
certificates there was a big difference between a lung cancer then a 
genetically passed breast cancer.  The doctor was not happy, but he finally  
issued a new certificate.


> On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:56 PM, Elizabeth Migliori  wrote:
> 
> Glad you fought to fix it.   
> I had to fix my mother's maiden last name on record of birth in town hall.  
> It was entered 1 year and 1 month after her birth and they put the wrong 
> name.  I had to find her father's baptism from Cedros Fayal to prove it.  Now 
> it's fixed for all generations to come.  That was when I was just beginning 
> to search.Wish everyone cared enough to make things right.
> 
> Liz
> 
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:01 PM, carabela via Azores Genealogy 
> mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
> My Mom pre-paid for her cremation way back in the 80's. I was the person that 
> was to contact the funeral home when she died.My Mom passed away 2 years ago. 
> When I got a copy of her death certificate I noticed her birth place was 
> wrong. She was the one that gave all the information but on the death 
> certificate it said I was the informant. I called the town hall, they had me 
> call the funeral home. The lady at the funeral home was sure that was what it 
> said on the paperwork that she had. I had my Mom's copy & my copy & told her 
> that wasn't what the paperwork said. I told her I know my Mom knew where she 
> was born & I didn't want it to look like I didn't know where my own mother 
> was born, being a genealogist! She went & looked at the paper work & she had 
> made a mistake. It was corrected but all the original copies of the death 
> certificate had to be collected & a corrected one was issued. It delayed 
> things & was annoying that the lady was so sure she didn't make a mistake. I 
> was glad to get it all fixed!
> Sherry
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>>
> To: Azores Genealogy  >
> Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2016 9:02 pm
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Death Certificates
> 
> Death certificates are a primary source for the date of death only. Anything 
> else you get off of a death certificate (decedent's birth date, the names of 
> the decedent's parents, etc) are considered secondary sources. The decedent 
> is dead and can't provide the information, therefore the rest becomes the 
> secondary source. This is in basic how-to genealogy books and taught in 
> genealogy classes. I teach it in my classes. Until today. I'm changing my 
> tune to "it depends." The death certificate is still a primary source for the 
> date of death. Anything else you get off the death certificate may be a 
> secondary source depending on a few things.
> 
> My dad informed me a few days ago about pre-planning for his and his current 
> wife's final plans. Kicking the bucket, is what he says. When he called 
> today, I answered the phone.
> 
> Dad: Betty and I just got back from the funeral home here and everything is 
> now done. You just call up the funeral home and they'll take care of it all. 
> Well, depending on which one of us kicks the bucket first.
> Me: (Thinking, geez, Dad): That's great, but I don't know what funeral home 
> to call.
> 
> My dad gives me the name, the address, and tells me how to drive there (it's 
> in another state)! Then he goes on
> 
> Dad: And all the questions they asked! I couldn't believe it. They even asked 
> for my mother's maiden name.
> 
> Me: (In disbelief): They asked for her maiden name?
> 
> Dad: Yes. I don't know what for.
> 
> Me: Your death certificate is going to ask for your parents' names. They have 
> now obtained that information from you. If your mom died when you were 5 
> years old and I never knew her, I may not know what to tell them for her name 
> on your death certificate. 
> 
> I don't know if all funeral homes do this if someone is pre-planning their 
> funeral. I think it is a really good idea, as the information is obtained 
> directly. So, from now on, the information on the death certificate could 
> possibly be from the decedent. It will depend on the funeral home and 
> pre-planned arrangements.
> 
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What is the feminine form of Simon?

[Sandra Perez]

Thank you.

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:36 AM, JR  wrote:

> The name I see most often is Simoa and occasionally, Simiana, which is
> probably a derivative of Simao/ Simoa.
>
> JR
>
> On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:44:12 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:
>>
>> Simona?
>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge 1696 marriage Sao Miguel VFDC

[Erica Botelho]

Thank you, Cheri! They are my husband’s 8th greats also.

Erica

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:52 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gaspar Rebelo and Maria Jorge 1696 marriage Sao 
Miguel VFDC

 

They are my 8th greats.

Gaspar Rebelo, son of Manuel Rebello and Maria Sampaio

Maria Jorge, daughter of father unknown and Isabel Jorge.

I don't go any further back (or did not enter it into the computer).

Gaspar & Maria had at least 9 kids.




Cheri Mello
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Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: What is the feminine form of Simon?

[JR]

The name I see most often is Simoa and occasionally, Simiana, which is 
probably a derivative of Simao/ Simoa.

JR 

On Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:44:12 PM UTC-4, Sandra Perez wrote:
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> Simona?
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> Sandra Perez
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