[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with part of a Casamento

[Sue Q]

This record is 
at 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-C-1755-1789/GRA-SC-SANTACRUZ-C-1755-1789_item1/P41.html
and it's the one on the left page for Antonio Pereira da Cunha.

Starting on the line where the name in the margin is, I have:

"...Antonio Pereira da Cunha, son of Antonio da Cunha da Vasconcellos and 
his wife Maria Medina, and Quiteria Maria de Jesus, daughter of Manuel 
 Vasconcellos and Maria de Jesus de Vieira?? parishioner of ?? (can't tell 
the word) of this mentioner island of Graciosa..." I don't understand the 
rest and think it might have something important in it. 

I'd be grateful for any help.

Sue Q

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Confession Rolls

[Cheri Mello]

The CCA does not have them, so they are at the church. You would have to go
there or hire someone to go there and search for you.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Freddy Garcia 
wrote:

> Hi, has anyone ever come across Confession Rolls for Madalena Pico ? Does
> anyone know how i would be able to view them ? Thanks
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Confession Rolls

[Freddy Garcia]

Hi, has anyone ever come across Confession Rolls for Madalena Pico ? Does 
anyone know how i would be able to view them ? Thanks

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Meaning of "filho familias

[Joseph Mendonca]

Thank you Philippe!

On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Philippe Garnier <
philippegarnier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joseph,
>
> "filho familias" means that the son is not married and is less than 25
> years old (majority age).
>
> Philippe Garnier
> Paris - France
>
>
> Le samedi 1 avril 2017 16:59:01 UTC+2, jemendonca642 a écrit :
>>
>> What is the exact meaning when the term "filho familias de" is used in a
>> record?  Does it mean "the child of"?
>>
>> Example: "foi padrinho Francisco de Sousa filho familias de Antonio de
>> Sousa"
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Meaning of "filho familias

[Philippe Garnier]

Hi Joseph,

"filho familias" means that the son is not married and is less than 25 
years old (majority age). 

Philippe Garnier
Paris - France

Le samedi 1 avril 2017 16:59:01 UTC+2, jemendonca642 a écrit :
>
> What is the exact meaning when the term "filho familias de" is used in a 
> record?  Does it mean "the child of"?
>
> Example: "foi padrinho Francisco de Sousa filho familias de Antonio de 
> Sousa"
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Attention J-M267 DNA testers (who got the SNP Pack email)

[Cheri Mello]

(Cross Posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes lists)

This SNP Pack is for the Y chromosome only, so it is only for men. So if
you didn't test your Y-DNA, then you tested your uncle's, nephew, brother,
male cousin, etc. So you or someone you tested is J-M267. When you take a
Y-DNA test, you get the haplogroup designation. That is where you fit on
the tree of mankind, out of Africa. Many men of Ashkenazi Jewish descent
are J-M267.  You can read about it more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J-M267

You can also see more by logging in the DNA page and clicking here (images
may not appear on the Madeira list):
[image: Inline image 1]

SNP = Short Nucleotide Polymorphism. They test the SNPs to refine the
haplogroup further.

FTDNA sent out an email, saying they have a SNP pack ready for J-M267 men
for an introductory price of $99 instead of $119. So what do you get?
They'd pull the vials and see if you (your guy) tests positive for any of
the SNPs in the pack. So you (your guy) could go from a J-M267 to J-Z123 (I
made that up). Or he could test negative for all of them and remain at
J-M267.

Does this help with your genealogy? Not exactly. It's more anthropology
oriented. If you had a DNA match on Y-37 who did the SNP Pack and you want
to see if you belong on the same branch of the tree of mankind (haplotree),
you could order the SNP Pack on your dad.

Bottom line: It's mostly anthropology and for $99 you get to go from J-M267
to J-.

Did I do it? Yeah, when they had a SNP pack for my dad's haplogroup, it
also went on sale. I had the money, so I did it. He went from R-M269 to
R-DF81. So now I can say my dad is DF81. LOL. I figure it helps the
population geneticists more than me.

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Jeremy, I'm used to this priest and it's Joao. If you look a little further
a couple of pages you will see his writing of Joseph and see how he writes
his "J". Barb is looking at the second up from the bottom not the bottom
name which is Bras.

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:44 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The more I look at it, the more positive I am that it is Bras rather than
> Joao. You can see faintly the left part of the B has worn away.  It is
> clear as day at the end of the second line in the body of the baptism where
> you can distinguish a B. Also the last letter flares up like an s.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Cheri Mello]

Bras is the bottom record. Barb is looking at Joao, 2nd from the bottom.

Cheri Mello
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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:44 PM, 'Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The more I look at it, the more positive I am that it is Bras rather than
> Joao. You can see faintly the left part of the B has worn away.  It is
> clear as day at the end of the second line in the body of the baptism where
> you can distinguish a B. Also the last letter flares up like an s.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

The more I look at it, the more positive I am that it is Bras rather than Joao. 
You can see faintly the left part of the B has worn away.  It is clear as day 
at the end of the second line in the body of the baptism where you can 
distinguish a B. Also the last letter flares up like an s.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Yep, it's always a joy when you get a priest that loves to embelish all of
the letters and then  puts that tail on the end that goes up instead of
down!! Oh yes and you have the bleed over from the next page to deal with
too! LOL

Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yeah, Joao. I went a page or 2 ahead and found a Joseph. His Js are weird.
> On May 3, 2017 10:09 PM, "Rosemarie Capodicci"  wrote:
>
>> Barb,
>> Don't you just love all of his curly cues! I really think it's just Joao
>> though.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Barb Davis 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all!  I'm having trouble making out the name of the child on the
>>> record that's second from the bottom on the right page, below the record
>>> for Manuel.  The parents are Manuel Vas da Costa and Ana Teixiera. Any help
>>> would be appreciated!
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-
>>> RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705_item1/P200.html
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Barb Davis
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] name?

[Cheri Mello]

Yeah, Joao. I went a page or 2 ahead and found a Joseph. His Js are weird.
On May 3, 2017 10:09 PM, "Rosemarie Capodicci"  wrote:

> Barb,
> Don't you just love all of his curly cues! I really think it's just Joao
> though.
>
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Barb Davis  wrote:
>
>> Hey all!  I'm having trouble making out the name of the child on the
>> record that's second from the bottom on the right page, below the record
>> for Manuel.  The parents are Manuel Vas da Costa and Ana Teixiera. Any help
>> would be appreciated!
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-
>> RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1624-1705_item1/P200.html
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Barb Davis
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Reading Portuguese Handwitten Records, 3 Lessons

['Jeremy G. B-C' via Azores Genealogy]

Interesting to peruse! Thanks for posting this.

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