Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry

[Mary Bordi]

When I have searched for names on family trees, a private tree will pop up
once in a while in the list along with public trees. A message says to
contact the owner if I want to know more. I cannot search the tree and if
the hit is like many of the ones for public tress it isn't even really the
name I am search for but might be similar.

I am suspicious of any hits on Ancestry now. In trying to find out how I
link to a DNA match many times I have found that the source of the
information on their tree is another Ancestry member's tree. And often it's
my tree!

I have a minimal tree that's public and one going further back that is not.
I'll have to look into the non-searchable option that was mentioned.

Mary

On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:23 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> As new people come into genealogy, they don't realize at all that the
> trees may be works in progress or theories. They think that it all correct.
> They don't know yet how to evaluate the evidence and what to do with
> conflicting evidence. It's a learning process that they will have to
> learn.  Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry

[Cheri Mello]

As new people come into genealogy, they don't realize at all that the trees
may be works in progress or theories. They think that it all correct. They
don't know yet how to evaluate the evidence and what to do with conflicting
evidence. It's a learning process that they will have to learn.  Cheri

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry

[lisahbskt]

I had this problem on Ancestry when I found my own tree in the search 
results from a mirror tree.  It turns out I had a duplicate tree which was 
not private.

I went thru and checked privacy settings on all of my trees and made them 
private yet searchable but not viewable without contacting me.  Living 
people still show as private on the trees when they are viewed.

I just ran a few names from my trees on Ancestry and they didn't come up 
except from other peoples public trees.

I don't know of another site where they would be private

On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 8:34:18 PM UTC-8, Pam Santos wrote:
>
> I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you 
> search they have all your information in the index no sense of it being 
> private. Some of you had access so If wondering why i removed them. 
>
> Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still 
> view ?
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

[Pam Santos]

Well it use to be on Ancestry but not anymore now when you search someone
even if the tree is private it shows up in search with birth,marriage,
death and parents names

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:36 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> My guess is private means just that. If you had a private tree somewhere,
> it's private. I couldn't view it.
>
> If you ask me, all the cloud-based sites have some problems (My Heritage,
> Geni, Family Search). Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
>
>> I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you
>> search they have all your information in the index no sense of it being
>> private. Some of you had access so If wondering why i removed them.
>>
>> Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still
>> view ?
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

[doreencaetano]

Thanks Richard. That is great advice and insight. 

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:31 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

I never have posted my tree on a public site such as ancestry. I do have my 
tree on the Family Tree DNA website but on that site only people that match my 
DNA can see my tree. While have all my tree there you can privatize any number 
of people on your tree this depends on the genealogy program you use. The 
problem with most programs they are not precise as to who you can privatize.  
For example if you privatize living persons then what about that gg grandfather 
that you don’t have a death date for? I feel you should at least have any 
generation earlier that your grandparents visible for people to fine a common 
ancestor.  I do not include any generation newer than my generation (children 
or grandchildren).
I do not have a problem with revealing my birth date or any other living person 
on my tree as the information can be found in many other searches and besides 
what can be done with a name and a birth date it is not going to get you in my 
bank account. I feel that any one that wants to find information on you can 
find it despite any of your efforts to hide it. I have seen people post their 
tree on sites and when I look at it all the names are privatized so I wonder 
why did they post it at all?

Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores



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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:58 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

I also removed my personal trees.  I contacted Ancestry about the problem. They 
assured me that they were private. I’ve only left one with Ancestry that it too 
is supposed to be private. The only reason I did that was I’m helping this 
relative develop their tree so we can learn how we are related. 
I would like to share how I found out about this issue. I was emailed by 
someone I did not know (may have been Pam). I want to thank them for the heads 
up. Ancestry was not responding to my emails so I deleted all my trees from 
their web site that same night. I’m hoping to keep this topic going so we can 
all stay updated. Hopefully they will fix the problem but mostly likely not 
since they did not acknowledge that they have a problem. I even asked to list 
the benefits of the web site is I cannot utilize the linked tree to keep all my 
computers up to date with my most current genealogy information. They failed to 
respond to that part of my questions. I believe I will not renew my 
subscription until they fix this problem. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
Once again I want to thank the person that contacted me through Ancestry to let 
me know about my trees. Once again I hope Ancestry resolves this issue. Doreen

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From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:36 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

My guess is private means just that. If you had a private tree somewhere, it's 
private. I couldn't view it.
If you ask me, all the cloud-based sites have some problems (My Heritage, Geni, 
Family Search). Cheri


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you search 
they have all your information in the index no sense of it being private. Some 
of you had access so If wondering why i removed them. 

Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still view ?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

[doreencaetano]

According to Ancestry mine were set up that way but … then someone through a 
message on Ancestry… said that they were able to search them. Since I did not 
get a quick response from Ancestry I did what I had to do which was delete 
them. My Ancestry trees are not accurate. They are working copies so as I find 
information I incorporate it into the tree but I know that it could be wrong. 
It does not become part of my paper tree until I have a confirmation of it 
through some documents. I do not want to spread inaccurate information so my 
trees need to be private. I’m always willing to help people. If they contact me 
I give the information I have and also provide the documentation/references. If 
you utilized information off my trees please contact me to obtain the 
documents/references that verifies the information.

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From: Cheryl Lawrence
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 8:28 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

On Ancestry, not only do you have to make your tree "Private", you also have to 
make it not searchable. There are two different categories that you have to 
click if you don't want others to see your info. But don't forget, anything 
that is public record can be seen by anyone on ancestry (census records, 
marriage records, phone and address directories, etc. Hope this helps!
- Cheryl

On Jan 19, 2018 10:57 AM,  wrote:
I also removed my personal trees.  I contacted Ancestry about the problem. They 
assured me that they were private. I’ve only left one with Ancestry that it too 
is suppose to be private. The only reason I did that was I’m helping this 
relative develop their tree so we can learn how we are related. 
I would like to share how I found out about this issue. I was emailed by 
someone I did not know (may have been Pam). I want to thank them for the heads 
up. Ancestry was not responding to my emails so I deleted all my trees from 
their web site that same night. I’m hoping to keep this topic going so we can 
all stay updated. Hopefully they will fix the problem but mostly likely not 
since they did not acknowledge that they have a problem. I even asked to list 
the benefits of the web site is I can not utilize the linked tree to keep all 
my computers up to date with my most current genealogy information. They failed 
to respond to that part of my questions. I believe I will not renew my 
subscription until they fix this problem. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
Once again I want to thank the person that contacted me through Ancestry to let 
me know about my trees. Once again I hope Ancestry resolves this issue. Doreen
 
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From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:36 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry
 
My guess is private means just that. If you had a private tree somewhere, it's 
private. I couldn't view it.
If you ask me, all the cloud-based sites have some problems (My Heritage, Geni, 
Family Search). Cheri


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you search 
they have all your information in the index no sense of it being private. Some 
of you had access so If wondering why i removed them. 
 
Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still view ?
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I never have posted my tree on a public site such as ancestry. I do have my 
tree on the Family Tree DNA website but on that site only people that match my 
DNA can see my tree. While have all my tree there you can privatize any number 
of people on your tree this depends on the genealogy program you use. The 
problem with most programs they are not precise as to who you can privatize.  
For example if you privatize living persons then what about that gg grandfather 
that you don’t have a death date for? I feel you should at least have any 
generation earlier that your grandparents visible for people to fine a common 
ancestor.  I do not include any generation newer than my generation (children 
or grandchildren).

I do not have a problem with revealing my birth date or any other living person 
on my tree as the information can be found in many other searches and besides 
what can be done with a name and a birth date it is not going to get you in my 
bank account. I feel that any one that wants to find information on you can 
find it despite any of your efforts to hide it. I have seen people post their 
tree on sites and when I look at it all the names are privatized so I wonder 
why did they post it at all?

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 10:58 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

 

I also removed my personal trees.  I contacted Ancestry about the problem. They 
assured me that they were private. I’ve only left one with Ancestry that it too 
is supposed to be private. The only reason I did that was I’m helping this 
relative develop their tree so we can learn how we are related. 

I would like to share how I found out about this issue. I was emailed by 
someone I did not know (may have been Pam). I want to thank them for the heads 
up. Ancestry was not responding to my emails so I deleted all my trees from 
their web site that same night. I’m hoping to keep this topic going so we can 
all stay updated. Hopefully they will fix the problem but mostly likely not 
since they did not acknowledge that they have a problem. I even asked to list 
the benefits of the web site is I cannot utilize the linked tree to keep all my 
computers up to date with my most current genealogy information. They failed to 
respond to that part of my questions. I believe I will not renew my 
subscription until they fix this problem. Does anyone else have any suggestions?

Once again I want to thank the person that contacted me through Ancestry to let 
me know about my trees. Once again I hope Ancestry resolves this issue. Doreen

 

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From: Cheri Mello  
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:36 PM
To: Azores Genealogy  
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

 

My guess is private means just that. If you had a private tree somewhere, it's 
private. I couldn't view it.

If you ask me, all the cloud-based sites have some problems (My Heritage, Geni, 
Family Search). Cheri




Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

 

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:

I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you search 
they have all your information in the index no sense of it being private. Some 
of you had access so If wondering why i removed them. 

 

Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still view ?

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

[Cheryl Lawrence]

On Ancestry, not only do you have to make your tree "Private", you also
have to make it not searchable. There are two different categories that you
have to click if you don't want others to see your info. But don't forget,
anything that is public record can be seen by anyone on ancestry (census
records, marriage records, phone and address directories, etc. Hope this
helps!
- Cheryl

On Jan 19, 2018 10:57 AM,  wrote:

> I also removed my personal trees.  I contacted Ancestry about the problem.
> They assured me that they were private. I’ve only left one with Ancestry
> that it too is suppose to be private. The only reason I did that was I’m
> helping this relative develop their tree so we can learn how we are
> related.
>
> I would like to share how I found out about this issue. I was emailed by
> someone I did not know (may have been Pam). I want to thank them for the
> heads up. Ancestry was not responding to my emails so I deleted all my
> trees from their web site that same night. I’m hoping to keep this topic
> going so we can all stay updated. Hopefully they will fix the problem but
> mostly likely not since they did not acknowledge that they have a problem.
> I even asked to list the benefits of the web site is I can not utilize the
> linked tree to keep all my computers up to date with my most current
> genealogy information. They failed to respond to that part of my questions.
> I believe I will not renew my subscription until they fix this problem.
> Does anyone else have any suggestions?
>
> Once again I want to thank the person that contacted me through Ancestry
> to let me know about my trees. Once again I hope Ancestry resolves this
> issue. Doreen
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:36 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry
>
>
>
> My guess is private means just that. If you had a private tree somewhere,
> it's private. I couldn't view it.
>
> If you ask me, all the cloud-based sites have some problems (My Heritage,
> Geni, Family Search). Cheri
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
>
> I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you
> search they have all your information in the index no sense of it being
> private. Some of you had access so If wondering why i removed them.
>
>
>
> Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still
> view ?
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

[doreencaetano]

I also removed my personal trees.  I contacted Ancestry about the problem. They 
assured me that they were private. I’ve only left one with Ancestry that it too 
is suppose to be private. The only reason I did that was I’m helping this 
relative develop their tree so we can learn how we are related. 
I would like to share how I found out about this issue. I was emailed by 
someone I did not know (may have been Pam). I want to thank them for the heads 
up. Ancestry was not responding to my emails so I deleted all my trees from 
their web site that same night. I’m hoping to keep this topic going so we can 
all stay updated. Hopefully they will fix the problem but mostly likely not 
since they did not acknowledge that they have a problem. I even asked to list 
the benefits of the web site is I can not utilize the linked tree to keep all 
my computers up to date with my most current genealogy information. They failed 
to respond to that part of my questions. I believe I will not renew my 
subscription until they fix this problem. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
Once again I want to thank the person that contacted me through Ancestry to let 
me know about my trees. Once again I hope Ancestry resolves this issue. Doreen

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From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 8:36 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ancestry

My guess is private means just that. If you had a private tree somewhere, it's 
private. I couldn't view it.
If you ask me, all the cloud-based sites have some problems (My Heritage, Geni, 
Family Search). Cheri


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos  wrote:
I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you search 
they have all your information in the index no sense of it being private. Some 
of you had access so If wondering why i removed them. 

Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still view ?
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