[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portuguese social group

[Tomas Leal]

What is now Fremont (which is a consolidation of several small towns) had a 
great concentration of Azorean immigrants. In contrast, Oakland had fewer. 
My grandfather's oldest brother settled and remained in Fremont while later 
brothers spread into Oakland and elsewhere, Still, though, the festas were 
in Fremont and they went there. Thus, an Oakland resident would be likely 
to be active in a Fremont-based group.

Tomás Leal

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Mello born 1878 Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Search 1876 and 1879. Our immigrant ancestors weren't always accurate with
their birth dates. I'd try 1879 first.

Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 7:01 PM,  wrote:

> Based on the Hawaii Cemetery Index, my grandfather Jose de Mello was born
> 11/3/1878.  The passport record (May 7, 1881) listed Ponta Delgada- Sao
> Sebastio.  I've searched baptism records for 1877 and 1878 for Sao Sebastio
> and haven't had any luck.  Has anyone seen a baptism record for him by
> chance?  His parents are Jose De Mello and Martinha Rosa.
>
> Thanks!
> Nina DeMello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Nossa Senhora da Estrela in Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Don't know when your grandfather was born. Sao Miguel island was digitized
through 1905. You can access through Tombo.pt. Click the British flag if
you need English. On the top on the left column, type Ribeira Grande. Hit
search. On the main screen, pick N.S. da Estrela. Good luck, Cheri

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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Repost for Matt Balderee, mattbalderree at gmail.com
>
> Is there anyone that has a digital copy or archive of the Igreja Matriz de
> Nossa Senhora da Estrela.  My grandfather was baptized there but I would
> like to see if more of his family is on the record there.  Any help would
> be greatly appreciated!!
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Please -

[Jacki Gentry]

JR and Altino, thank you so much 

The family members named, match the birth records I've found for both Thom 
and Felicia. I was actually hoping this marriage record would mention their 
ages and prove I had the wrong birth record for Felicia because I'm just 
having a hard time accepting an age difference so big. According to my 
birth records for them, he would have been 56 (born 18 Dec 1724) to her 19 
(born 18 Dec 1761) when they married 3 Dec 1781. Unfortunately, I'm now 
virtually certain I have the correct record. I get it, older men who wanted 
to have families would have to find a wife young enough to bear children 
but 37 years?yuk. The fact that his parents were both deceased makes 
sense though.  

*Altino*, thank you too for looking up the additional info. I'm not 
familiar with Canto's index but your info does match the records I've found 
at culturacores.azores.gov.pt

I will definitely be looking up the additional info you both posted as well.

Again, thank you both for taking the time to look all that up.

Jacki


On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 10:59:59 AM UTC-8, Jacki Gentry wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone, 
>
> It's been a *really *long time since I've posted anything to the group. 
> Life sort of got in the way of researching. :)  I'm trying to get back to 
> it and I've realized that I'm really out of practice reading these. I could 
> only read the basics anyway but after all this time, I'm not doing very 
> well with that either. 
>
> If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from 
> this marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for 
> Thome de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he 
> married Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. 
> (37 yrs his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and 
> especially, their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or 
> not.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P52.html
>
>
> Cheri, my apologies if I'm not posting this the correct way. As I said, 
> it's been a long time.
>
>
> Cheers
> Jacki Gentry
>

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Nossa Senhora da Estrela in Ribeira Grande, Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Repost for Matt Balderee, mattbalderree at gmail.com

Is there anyone that has a digital copy or archive of the Igreja Matriz de
Nossa Senhora da Estrela.  My grandfather was baptized there but I would
like to see if more of his family is on the record there.  Any help would
be greatly appreciated!!

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry

[doreencaetano]

I appreciated the information and understand the problem. I have no solutions 
other than to keep everything private then I would not be able to relatives. 
Thanks again. Like always your explanation is so clear and complete.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:29 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry

When someone DNA tests, they sign a paper saying they are willing to be matched 
within the FTDNA system. So once a person logs into their match page, those 
matches are meant for their eyes and their eyes only (or the proxy managing the 
kit). Many people are ignorant of manners, ethics, etc. They think it's 
absolutely OK to show something that was meant for them PERSONALLY to the 
world. No, that's NOT okay. Same thing as taking a screen shot of your bank 
account and publishing it on social media. Why not do that? We know why.
If you have some ideas for solutions, send them to me and I'll bring them to 
the attention of FTDNA.
The screen shot that I show repeatedly of my dad's page shows only 4 people: 
Me, cousin Nancy, cousin Marie, and cousin Altino. I have emails from them 
saying it's OK to show their name and picture. The next person I do NOT have 
permission. So hence my cutoff at 4 people. It's enough anyways.
As for the site protecting the information (DNA), only those with the kit 
number and password have access to the DNA, same as your online banking. If the 
password is shared and people think it's OK to share DNA with the world, well, 
then that's not a problem with the DNA site, it's a problem with the person who 
shared a password with someone who is completely ignorant about what is 
ethically proper to do with someone's DNA. Same thing as sharing your banking 
password. If you shared the password with me and I took a screen shot of your 
account and posted it on social media, it's not the bank's problem. Our problem 
is that we share DNA (unlike bank accounts) and genealogists don't understand 
the line between sharing and violating privacy. 
Again, if you have any ideas for FTDNA, let me know.


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:25 AM,  wrote:
Thanks Cheri. I was not questioning the FTDNA but is sounds like others may 
have been questioning their privacy.  This has been and interesting topic and I 
do have another question or concern. On other groups I see people posting the 
match pages(screen shots) from FTDNA. I do not mind the person matching getting 
the info but posting it on a social media seems like an exposure to me. So it 
makes me uncomfortable since I try to honor my relatives rights and protect 
their identity information. In the past I tried to use Genmatch. I had problems 
so I just let it go. I’m constantly being asked to post my information. I see 
other people posting the numbers and wonder about the sites ability to protect 
the information. Can any one provide me with insight? Maybe this should be a 
new topic?
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:19 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry
 
About FTDNA, sorry that's not true. If you want your tree private on FTDNA, you 
can mark it completely private. Here's a completely private tree from FTDNA:

Here's the same tree, share with matches only but the living private:

 
FTDNA does, indeed, give you privacy controls.
 
So, if you want your tree private, do NOT upload it to ANY cloud based site 
(Ancestry, Family Search, My Heritage, etc). DON'T DNA test. Just let your tree 
live on your computer only and share with NO ONE. Only then will your tree 
remain private. That's really the only way to keep something truly private.  
Cheri


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[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose de Mello born 1878 Sao Miguel

[nydemello]

Based on the Hawaii Cemetery Index, my grandfather Jose de Mello was born 
11/3/1878.  The passport record (May 7, 1881) listed Ponta Delgada- Sao 
Sebastio.  I've searched baptism records for 1877 and 1878 for Sao Sebastio and 
haven't had any luck.  Has anyone seen a baptism record for him by chance?  His 
parents are Jose De Mello and Martinha Rosa.

Thanks!
Nina DeMello

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

[Ângela Loura]

Hi,
According to the Azores Government site:


SESFM - Flor da Mocidade


Holy Ghost Society



1105 "C" Street, Hayward

CA, 94542 - USA


Em 28/01/2018 23:21, "Cheri Mello"  escreveu:

> FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
>
> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>
>> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
>> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
>> was your ancestor in?
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>
>> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

[Cheri Mello]

Just ask Google!

Cheri Mello
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On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Mary Bordi  wrote:

> The FM stands for "Flor da Mocidade"
>
> http://www.azores.gov.pt/Portal/pt/entidades/srapre-
> drcomunidades/contactos/SESFM+-+Flor+da+Mocidade.htm
>
> I Googled it. LOL!
>
> Mary
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:29 PM Gordon soares  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>
>> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

[Mary Bordi]

The FM stands for "Flor da Mocidade"

http://www.azores.gov.pt/Portal/pt/entidades/srapre-drcomunidades/contactos/SESFM+-+Flor+da+Mocidade.htm

I Googled it. LOL!

Mary

On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 2:29 PM Gordon soares  wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
> what the SESFM stands for.
>
> Gordon Soares
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please -

[JR]

Feb 7- 1707 for Manuel Fernandes and Sebastiana Rocha.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1693-1759/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1693-1759_item1/P14.html

Page 12 verso (backside), bottom record

JR

On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 8:56:04 PM UTC-5, Altino wrote:
>
> Jacki, I tried replying to your post earlier, but the reply hasn't shown 
> up on my device.
>
> The record says on Dec 3, 1781 in the Ermida of Nossa Senhora dos Anjos, 
> Thome de Medeiros, legitimate son of Manuel Fernandes & Sebastianna da 
> Rocha (both deceased) weds Felicia Rosa, legitimate daughter of Antonio do 
> Rego and his wife, Maria Francisca. (Both are natives of this parish)
>
> I found Manuel Fernandes marrying Sebastianna de Oliveira da Rocha in 
> Canto's index for Faja de Baixo. The date year is too hard for me to make 
> out because those pages have hard to read months without years.
>
> Manuel Fernandes is the son of Manuel Fernandes and Suzana Luis.
> Sebastianna de Oliveira da Rocha is the daughter of Pedro da Rocha and 
> Maria de Oliveira.
>
> (Please double check the record to confirm)
>
> Look in marriages around 1705.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 28, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Jacki Gentry  > wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone, 
>
> It's been a *really *long time since I've posted anything to the group. 
> Life sort of got in the way of researching. :)  I'm trying to get back to 
> it and I've realized that I'm really out of practice reading these. I could 
> only read the basics anyway but after all this time, I'm not doing very 
> well with that either. 
>
> If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from 
> this marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for 
> Thome de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he 
> married Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. 
> (37 yrs his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and 
> especially, their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or 
> not.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P52.html
>
>
> Cheri, my apologies if I'm not posting this the correct way. As I said, 
> it's been a long time.
>
>
> Cheers
> Jacki Gentry
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please -

['Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy]

Jacki, I hope this helps with Antonio do Rego and Maria Francisca. I looked at 
Canto's index for Faja de Baixo. They had 4 other kids that I see...

Antonia Jacintha m. Francisco Rodrigues 3 Oct 1786
Francisco do Rego m. Maria Joaquinha 24 June 1787
André do Rego m. Ana Francisca 11 Oct 1787
João do Rego m. Josepha Francisca 18 Aug 1794.

Maybe the marriage record of one of these other kids might help with clues to 
going further back with Antonio do Rego and Maria Francisca.

Altino Demelo



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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Jacki Gentry  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> It's been a really long time since I've posted anything to the group. Life 
> sort of got in the way of researching. :)  I'm trying to get back to it and 
> I've realized that I'm really out of practice reading these. I could only 
> read the basics anyway but after all this time, I'm not doing very well with 
> that either. 
> 
> If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from this 
> marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for Thome 
> de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he married 
> Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. (37 yrs 
> his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and especially, 
> their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or not.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P52.html
> 
> 
> Cheri, my apologies if I'm not posting this the correct way. As I said, it's 
> been a long time.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Jacki Gentry
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

[Diane George]

Hi, Gordon,

I agree with Susan--not likely to be Fremont. All the Portuguese societies in 
California merged in 2010 into the Portuguese Fraternal Society of America. A 
brief statement of the formation and organizations that merged is included on 
the website at http://www.mypfsa.org/about-us/#/.
You may also be able to contact them via email or telephone. 

Diane George

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To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

Hi Gordon,

I’m wondering where you are reading that your grandfather was a founding member 
etc? I don’t know the answer but the city of Fremont was formed in late 1950s 
from most of the towns that were Washington Township so I doubt that FM stood 
for that if what you are reading refers to a time before 1960.
My father lived in Centerville which eventually became part of Fremont and had 
a policy from SES. I know I had to contact the organization located in San Jose 
in order to collect on the policy when he died. 

Doesn’t answer your question, but I wouldn’t guess that it stands for Fremont. 
Maybe Fraternal Men’s? Even tho I have never seen that tagged on?


Susan Vargas Murphy 

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:14 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe SES is one of the organizations that merged into PFSA. You can find 
> PFSA on line and contact them to see what they have about the SES (if they 
> are now part of PFSA).  
> 
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, 1/28/18, Gordon soares  wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 28, 2018, 4:01 PM
> 
> Fremont is
> what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in Oakland. Any 
> idea how one goes about getting the info or dox related to such 
> organizations? I don’t know how “legal” these orgs had to be.
> 
> Sent
> from my iPhone
> On Jan 28,
> 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
> 
> FM may be Freemont. Someone more
> familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, 
> "Gordon soares" 
> wrote:
> Oakland ca . At one point
> lived on Adeline Street .Gordon
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
> SES
> is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of 
> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What 
> city was your ancestor in?
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares" 
> wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM
> Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual Machado Soares was 
> supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the President for 
> awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know what the SESFM 
> stands for.
> 
> 
> 
> Gordon Soares
> 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please -

['Altino Demelo' via Azores Genealogy]

Jacki, I tried replying to your post earlier, but the reply hasn't shown up on 
my device.

The record says on Dec 3, 1781 in the Ermida of Nossa Senhora dos Anjos, Thome 
de Medeiros, legitimate son of Manuel Fernandes & Sebastianna da Rocha (both 
deceased) weds Felicia Rosa, legitimate daughter of Antonio do Rego and his 
wife, Maria Francisca. (Both are natives of this parish)

I found Manuel Fernandes marrying Sebastianna de Oliveira da Rocha in Canto's 
index for Faja de Baixo. The date year is too hard for me to make out because 
those pages have hard to read months without years.

Manuel Fernandes is the son of Manuel Fernandes and Suzana Luis.
Sebastianna de Oliveira da Rocha is the daughter of Pedro da Rocha and Maria de 
Oliveira.

(Please double check the record to confirm)

Look in marriages around 1705.

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> that either. 
> 
> If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from this 
> marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for Thome 
> de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he married 
> Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. (37 yrs 
> his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and especially, 
> their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or not.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

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Hi Gordon,

I’m wondering where you are reading that your grandfather was a founding member 
etc? I don’t know the answer but the city of Fremont was formed in late 1950s 
from most of the towns that were Washington Township so I doubt that FM stood 
for that if what you are reading refers to a time before 1960.
My father lived in Centerville which eventually became part of Fremont and had 
a policy from SES. I know I had to contact the organization located in San Jose 
in order to collect on the policy when he died. 

Doesn’t answer your question, but I wouldn’t guess that it stands for Fremont. 
Maybe Fraternal Men’s? Even tho I have never seen that tagged on?


Susan Vargas Murphy 

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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:14 PM, 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy 
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> I believe SES is one of the organizations that merged into PFSA. You can find 
> PFSA on line and contact them to see what they have about the SES (if they 
> are now part of PFSA).  
> 
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
> 
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> On Sun, 1/28/18, Gordon soares  wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, January 28, 2018, 4:01 PM
> 
> Fremont is
> what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in
> Oakland. Any idea how one goes about getting the info or dox
> related to such organizations? I don’t know how
> “legal” these orgs had to be. 
> 
> Sent
> from my iPhone
> On Jan 28,
> 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
> 
> FM may be Freemont. Someone more
> familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM,
> "Gordon soares" 
> wrote:
> Oakland ca . At one point
> lived on Adeline Street .Gordon
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
> SES
> is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or
> Society of the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the
> area of California. What city was your ancestor in?
> 
> On Jan
> 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares" 
> wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM
> Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual Machado Soares
> was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the
> President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I
> don’t know what the SESFM stands for.
> 
> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

[Cheri Mello]

Some of the fraternity records are on the Azores Genweb. I am not at home.
Maybe someone else can send the link. Cheri

On Jan 28, 2018 4:01 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:

> Fremont is what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in Oakland.
> Any idea how one goes about getting the info or dox related to such
> organizations? I don’t know how “legal” these orgs had to be.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
>
> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>
>> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
>> Gordon
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
>> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
>> was your ancestor in?
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

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I believe SES is one of the organizations that merged into PFSA. You can find 
PFSA on line and contact them to see what they have about the SES (if they are 
now part of PFSA).  

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Sun, 1/28/18, Gordon soares  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Sunday, January 28, 2018, 4:01 PM
 
 Fremont is
 what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in
 Oakland. Any idea how one goes about getting the info or dox
 related to such organizations? I don’t know how
 “legal” these orgs had to be. 
 
 Sent
 from my iPhone
 On Jan 28,
 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:
 
 FM may be Freemont. Someone more
 familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
 On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM,
 "Gordon soares" 
 wrote:
 Oakland ca . At one point
 lived on Adeline Street .Gordon
 
 On Jan
 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:
 SES
 is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or
 Society of the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the
 area of California. What city was your ancestor in?
 
 On Jan
 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares" 
 wrote:
 Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM
 Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual Machado Soares
 was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the
 President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I
 don’t know what the SESFM stands for.
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

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Fremont is what I thought but can’t figure out why if he lived in Oakland. Any 
idea how one goes about getting the info or dox related to such organizations? 
I don’t know how “legal” these orgs had to be. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2018, at 4:21 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
>> Gordon
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>> 
>>> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of 
>>> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city 
>>> was your ancestor in?
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>>> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? 
>>> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was 
>>> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know 
>>> what the SESFM stands for.
>>> 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

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FM may be Freemont. Someone more familiar with Oakland will chime in. Cheri

On Jan 28, 2018 3:05 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:

> Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
> Gordon
>
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> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
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> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
> the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
> was your ancestor in?
>
> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
> Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
> the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
> what the SESFM stands for.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

[Gordon soares]

Oakland ca . At one point lived on Adeline Street .
Gordon


> On Jan 28, 2018, at 3:34 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of the 
> Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city was 
> your ancestor in?
> 
> On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  > wrote:
> Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual 
> Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the 
> President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know what 
> the SESFM stands for.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

[Cheri Mello]

SES is probably Portuguese for Sociedade do Espirito Santo or Society of
the Holy Spirit. I'm guessing FM may be the area of California. What city
was your ancestor in?

On Jan 28, 2018 2:29 PM, "Gordon soares"  wrote:

Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area?
Manual Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was
the President for awhile. He is my grand father born in Pico.I don’t know
what the SESFM stands for.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese social group

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Has anyone ever heard of the SESFM Portuguese lodge in the Calif area? Manual 
Machado Soares was supposedly one of the 6 founding members and was the 
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SESFM stands for.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Translation Help Please -

[JR]

Dec 3- 1781, Faja de Baixo, Thome de Medeiros, filho de Manoel Fernandes 
and Sebastianna da Rocha, ja defuntos com Felicia Roza, filha de Antonio do 
Rego and Maria Francisca ambos naturaes freguesia desta parochial.

Dec 3- 1781, Faja de Baixo, Thome de Medeiros, son of Manoel Fernandes and 
Sebastianna da Rocha, both deceased with Felicia Roza, daughter of Antonio 
do Rego and Maria Francisca both natives of freguesia of this parish.

There is no more info, and the side notes relates to names of priest the 
were left out and that blessings were received.

JR

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> only read the basics anyway but after all this time, I'm not doing very 
> well with that either. 
>
> If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from 
> this marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for 
> Thome de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he 
> married Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. 
> (37 yrs his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and 
> especially, their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or 
> not.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P52.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help Please -

[Jacki Gentry]

Hi Everyone, 

It's been a *really *long time since I've posted anything to the group. 
Life sort of got in the way of researching. :)  I'm trying to get back to 
it and I've realized that I'm really out of practice reading these. I could 
only read the basics anyway but after all this time, I'm not doing very 
well with that either. 

If someone could please be so kind as to translate the basic info from this 
marriage record, I would truly appreciate the help. The record is for Thome 
de Medeiros, born 18, Dec 1724 Fajo de Baixo, Sao Miguel and he married 
Felica Rosa, who if I have the correct record, was born 3 Dec 1761. (37 yrs 
his junior). I'm hoping this record mentions their parents and especially, 
their ages at the time so I can confirm that this is correct or not.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P52.html


Cheri, my apologies if I'm not posting this the correct way. As I said, 
it's been a long time.


Cheers
Jacki Gentry

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Repost: Manuel Faustino, born 1861 Sao Miguel island

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi,

Found the following obit in the Portuguese Newspaper, Daily News of New
Bedford, March 24 1955.  Although the dates don't coincide with yours it
may be a lead for you, and someone research Ribeirinha may be able to help
you. Hope you can read it but, just in case it says:

He's 78 years old, passed away in his son's Manuel Foster's residence on
Baker Street of this town, Mr. Manuel Faustino long time resident.  The
deceased was natural from Ribeirinha, S. Miguel, Acores, well liked by the
QUC and he will be missed.  He was a parishioner of Santa Isabel and buried
in the local cemetery of Santa Maria. RIP.


FALECIMENTO
Manuel Faustino
Com a- idade de 78 anos, faleceu na
semana finda, na residência de seu
filho sr- Manuel Foster, na Baker
Street desta vila, o sr. Manuel Faustino,
há muitos anos aqui residente.
O finado que era natural da Ribeirinha,
S. Miguel, Açores, disfrutava
de muitas simpatias, pelo QUC a sua
morte foi muito sentida. Era paroquiano
da igreja de Santa Isabel e
foi sepultadc no cemitério local de
Santa Maria.
Paz á sua alma.


Herminia Alves \ DN New Bedford MA 24 Mar 1955
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 7:07 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Repost for No Name, jantaft06 at gmail.com
>
> Manuel Foster? Faustino born 1861 Sao Miguel, Azores
> Immigrated to New Bedford, MA circa 1871
> Naturalized 1893 Boston, MA
> Lived his life in Cambridge, MA  10 kids lived to adulthood
> His wife Maria Marshall? Machado and her mother was Mary/ Maria Candida
> Lebona married to a Ives Marshall/Machado
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