Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LDS Family History Library Feedback
Hi Shirley in CA, Also in CA (Plot Hill). Thanks for the info. I'm looking for Capelo, Faial information where my mom and dad's family came from. Is Capelo included in the Faial information? Thanks, Laura In a message dated 4/18/2012 9:10:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shir...@digitalpath.net writes: Hi: I have films at the FHC for Faial and Pico. Who are you looking for? Name? Age, more or less, village? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Lester lester.mur...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: LDS Family History Library Feedback I found the website of the Núcleo de Estudos de Populaçáo e Sociedade, Instituto de Ciéncias Sociais, which is run by the Universidade do Minho, in Braga, Portugal. There are several databases with information not available on the CCA site. It is just data, no original documents or images. I was particularly interested in data for Pico and Faial. I emailed the database administrator and asked where the data came from and he said it came from the original records kept in Horta. The url for their new website is: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt I did find some of the information to be useful and consistent with what I found in the Library, but one record in the database was obviously wrong (too many years between the birth of parent and child. After I posted about the LDS Library, I spoke to the Library Volunteer Coordinator and she is working to resolve the equipment problems. Yes, there are different lenses for different films, but not all the Library volunteers know this or how to change them. She also offered to let me take the films to a nearby public library which has similar equipment for reading the microfilm and printing the images. She has been very helpful. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Jewish Cemetery in Ponta Delgada
Just an FYI. There is also a Jewish cemetery on the island of Faial next to the Catholic. In a message dated 9/20/2011 3:10:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eliseuman...@sapo.pt writes: Hi, Today I heard about of a Jewish Cemetery in Ponta Delgada, Santa Clara. It was built in 1840. It has been taken care by a Jewish family of Ponta Delgada, the Bensaúde family. eliseu -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Katy Perry's Azorean Roots
Check out Katy Perry's bio in Wikipedia. (Katy) Katherine Elizabeth Hudson was born in Santa Barbara, CA. She is of Portuguese, Irish, German, English ancestry. Her parents were both evangelical pastors. Mother's maiden name was Perry. I have no idea which Perry line. Her aunt, Eleanor Perry is a screenwriter and uncle, Frank Perry a Director. Laura In a message dated 5/2/2011 9:25:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pereir...@cox.net writes: Elaine, You are something else! I mean that in a complimentary way of course!! :) Thanks, that is the family!!! My mother in law, Gussie Perry, died in Jan 1967. She was married to Thomas Saul Butcher. They lived in the Fremont, CA area. Will write to you off list as they were not Portuguese. But my husband had that beautiful skin tone grew up with all the Portuguese in the San Leandro area. Thanks again... Pat At 03:54 PM 5/1/2011, you wrote: Pat, I found the following which might be her. There are a few Alvina's but this on says Gussie: 1900 US Census 1545 K Street, Fresno CA Alvin Perry b. Dec. 1874 CA father b. NY mother b. CA music teacher wife: Myrtle b. Feb. 1879 b. MO father b. PA mother b. VA married 5 years, 2 children born, 2 children living. dau. Gussie b. June 1896 CA son Elmer b. Jan 1900 CA Is this them? Can't seem to find much more on them. Did they stay in CA? E Alvina Gussie Perry born in California,June of 1896. Haven't tackled that Perry line yet. Pat -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Interesting story with recipes.
My mother made kale/collard soup frequently. I recall she sometimes added beans, carrots, potatoes but never eggs. This is the first time I ever heard about the eggs. Are eggs the most common way to make the soup? Did the recipes vary from island to island? Laura In a message dated 2/13/2011 10:24:37 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, d...@wwdb.org writes: Thank you! All I remember is a big soup pot and eggs. When I asked a cousin many years later, they thought Great-Grandmother must have been making kale soup. The recipes for kale soup I found did not include eggs so this recipe was interesting. Unfortunately none of Great-grandmother's recipes were passed down to my generation. On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Cheri Mello _gfscherim@gmail.com_ (mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com) wrote: Diane, It depends. The sopas served at the Portuguese halls in California are served either with the broth and bread in one pot and the meat and cabbage in the other pot (and then you put it together yourself on your plate) or sometimes it's broth and cabbage in one pot and the meat in the other or sometimes it's all put together in one big pot. I just plop it on my plate. It all goes to the same place - my stomach! LOL Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _Azores+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FYI: Manteca Bulletin, Portuguese cultural class seri...
I agree. I'm located near Folsom (Pilot Hill) and am quite sure there would be many interested folks in the Sac area that would attend the class if offered. In a message dated 1/3/2011 9:09:33 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, dee59...@gmail.com writes: Oh Katherine, I wish I could attend this, but Folsom is just too far away. Maybe they will repeat it in the Sacramento area On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Katharine _katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com_ (mailto:katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com) wrote: Disclaimer: I have no connection to the following, simply came across while doing my daily search on Azores on Google News. Still, it might be of interest to some of our members. Katharine. = = = = = = = = = = Portuguese cultural class series starts Wednesday _http://www.mantecabulletin.com/news/article/19761_ (http://www.mantecabulletin.com/news/article/19761) Staff reports of the Manteca (Calif.) Bulletin POSTED Dec. 31, 2010 10:24 p.m. The Manteca Parks and Recreation Department is again offering a Portuguese class geared for those of Portuguese descent who want to learn more about their history, or just anyone interested in knowing more about the culture other than festas and bullfights. The nine-week Portuguese Cultural Class will begin on Wednesday, Jan. 5. Classes will be held every Wednesday from 6 to 8 p.m. at the Manteca Senior Center, 295 Cherry Lane, just behind the Police Department. Registration for the class is at the Manteca Parks and Recreation Department at 252 Magnolia Avenue in Manteca. Interested in finding out how different cultures influenced the Azores, how a rebel tribal leader, Virathus, held off the mighty Roman Army on the Iberian Peninsula, and why the inhabitants of Teceira, Azores like their bulls and bullfights so much, and why the Portuguese have such a devotion to the Holy Spirit? You can find out those answers and much more by taking the Portuguese Cultural Class offered from Jan. 5 to March 2. Participants will learn the history of Portugal going back to pre- Roman days then to the first monarch, the golden age of discovery, and understand the reasons behind the immigration move to the USA, according to Mary Del Pino who is teaching the class. Traditions, both cultural and religious will be a large focus of the class, she said. Traditional foods, dance and music will be explored. Students will learn the “Chamarita” – a folk dance, and will have a Portuguese potluck where the main course will be provided and everyone brings their favorite Portuguese dish. The Portuguese language will be touched on, with some basic greetings and dialects reviewed, as well as the history of the language. Those who are studying their family trees can get information on how to continue their research. They will also learn about prominent Portuguese-Americans and what the letters FESM and MRPS really stand for. The class costs $50 per person for the nine-week session. This includes all class materials, the cost of the potluck and the “Chamarita” dance lesson. If you are not a resident of Manteca, the class will cost $60, as there is a $10 non-residence fee. No registration will take place after the second class on Jan. 12. Course teacher Mary (Gomes) Del Pino is a certificated high school teacher. She speaks fluent Portuguese and is of Portuguese ancestry, both on her maternal and paternal sides. She was the first editor of the “Luso-American,” the in-house publication for the Luso-American Fraternal Society based in Dublin. This will be the ninth Portuguese Cultural class that Del Pino has taught. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to _azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
Hi Lisa, I sure do. My mother's maiden name was Andrade (I don't know about the de) and she was from Capelo, Faial. Hope there's a connection somehow. Thanks, Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 8:51:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, brat.l...@hotmail.com writes: Laura, I also have Silveira and Silva from Faial in my lineage. I am curious if you may also have de Andrade lurking somewhere? thank you, Lisa From: lharrah...@aol.com Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:23:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name To: azores@googlegroups.com Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eugenia...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre Herculano; 2. Rebelo da Silva (1822-1871); 3. Andrade Corvo (1824-1890); and 4. Arnaldo Gama (1828-1869). Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 2, 1972, page 38. People in Portuguese History: Governor Celestino da Silva, ruled Timor for fourteen years (1894-1908), achieved full conquest of the Portuguese part of the island. Information is from: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, NY, Vol. 2, 1972, page 118. Portuguese in the Arts: 1.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
Hi Shirley, My grandfather's full name was Jose Correia da Rosa Silveira and my grandmother was Maria Luisa de Jesus Brum and they lived in Capelo. That's where all 11 of their children were born. Unfortunately that's all I have so far. I do need to contact the various available resources in Horta and LDS to see what they have. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 5:39:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shir...@digitalpath.net writes: Laura: My husband has Silveira from Flamengos, Faial. Is this where your Silveira are from? Shirley - Original Message - From: _lharrah...@aol.com_ (mailto:lharrah...@aol.com) To: _azo...@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:azores@googlegroups.com) Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _eugenia...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:eugenia...@yahoo.com) writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre Herculano; 2. Rebelo da Silva (1822-1871); 3. Andrade Corvo (1824-1890); and 4. Arnaldo Gama (1828-1869). Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 2, 1972, page 38. People in Portuguese History: Governor Celestino da Silva, ruled Timor for fourteen
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silva Name
Eugenia, Enjoyed the interesting Silva information. My dad's side of the family were Silva, Silveira, Silvia, da Silva from Faial. Laura In a message dated 3/16/2010 11:21:33 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, eugenia...@yahoo.com writes: Greetings: I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following for SILVA. I hope this helps in your research. The name is found in many places and in many families. Eugenia Silva - Abbreviation: Sil Silva is a feminine name. Portuguese Name's abbreviation of da Silva, is Sil. (o) A letter is bracket ( ) it means that the letter is written very small and higher up beside the other letters in the original documents (same as the o in the degree Celcius). Information is from: The internet, Title: centeremPortuguese Genealogy abbreviations Helper./head Web page: http://www.frenet.edmonton.ab.ca/%7Efcandido/abbreviation.html, date printed: 11/29/97, page 3 of 3. Silva, da Silva, Sylva: Silva in Portuguese, Silver in American as surnames Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, NAMING TRADITIONS, SURNAME TYPES, OProgresso, Dece. 1995, Vol. 14, No. 4, page 10. Silva - surname common in Prainha do Norte; Madalena, Pico; Faial Information is from: Doug da Rocha Holmes, SURNAME ORGINS, 1995, page 3. Silva - change to Cunha. A family name in the Azores. Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 198. ' Silva - Silva - Change from Teles. Alfredo Silva Sampaio (1862-1929) owned a private Botanical Garden (Azorean Flora). Information is from the book: James H. Guill, A HISTORY OF THE AZORES ISLANDS, Golden Shield International, Vol. 5, 1993, page 32, 235, 236. Silva - This is a surname commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Information is from: BASIC PORTUGUESE PALEOGRAPHY, The Genealogical Department of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Series II, No., 20, 1978, page 27. Silva - is a family name of an early Portuguese immigrant in California. Information is from: Carlos Almeida, PORTUGUESE IMMIGRANTS, Published by: The Supreme Council of U.P.E.C., San Leandro, CA,1978, page 270. Silva - meaning: Whistle, shrill sound. Information is from: Portuguese Names and Their Meanings - Hawaii, AMERICAN PORTUGUESE GENEALOGICAL AND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, INC., Spring 1997, Vol. XVIII, No. 2. People in Portuguese History: Silva - The enlightened period of Portuguese history under Jose after 1755. The chief architect was the Marquis do Pombal. His successors were secretaries of state in the reigns of Maria and John, such as: 1. Jose de Seabra da Silva (Secretary of Interior, 1788-1799) 2. The Count of Linhares, Rodrigo de Sousa Coutinho (Secretary of the Navy, 1795-1803; Secretary of Foreign Affairs and War, 1807-1812) Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 406. Portuguese Poets: 1. Bocage (1765-1805), a pre-romantic who lived a miserable life and died in poverty; 2. Filinto Elisio (1734-1819), who died in exile in France; 3. Cruz e Silva (1731-1799); 4. Correia Garcao (1724-1772). All of these people were poets and all of bourgeois origin. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 1, 1972, page 412. 1820 – The great names of the revolution, were the following: Fernandes Tomás, Ferreira Borges, and Silva Carvalho All jurist and bureaucrats who together took over the secretariates of interior (Reino) and finance (Fazenda). Information is from the book: A.H. De Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, 1972, Vol. 2, page 55. Portuguese Writers: 1. Alexandre Herculano; 2. Rebelo da Silva (1822-1871); 3. Andrade Corvo (1824-1890); and 4. Arnaldo Gama (1828-1869). Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 2, 1972, page 38. People in Portuguese History: Governor Celestino da Silva, ruled Timor for fourteen years (1894-1908), achieved full conquest of the Portuguese part of the island. Information is from: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, NY, Vol. 2, 1972, page 118. Portuguese in the Arts: 1. Soares dos Reis (1847-1889), a sculptor; 2. Silva Porto (1850-1893), a painter; 3. José Malhoa (1854-1933), a painter; and 4. Columbano Bordalo Pinheiro (1857-1929), a painter. Information is from the book: A.H. de Oliveira Marques, HISTORY OF PORTUGAL, Columbia University Press, Vol. 2, 1972, page 41. Portuguese Explorers: In 1840s and 1850s the settler Silva Porto (1817-1890) explored the present day Angola and Zambia. He lived in central Angola. Silva, traveled to Barotseland where he met Livingstone. Silva traveled Kafue River in Central Zambia (1853). Silva Porto’s merits as an
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Flights to the Azores
Hi, I'm looking into booking Ginny Al's last tour to the Azores. However, the dates of June 22/July 6 may not work out for me. Are they the only ones who provide tours to the Azores? I'm not having any luck looking for others on the Internet so far. I would like Oakland direct to Azores and return not Boston. Have any of you made arrangements on your own? Would appreciate suggestions. Laura In a message dated 2/13/2010 10:32:10 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, bellema...@gmail.com writes: Where you are flying from is a factor. I don't believe there are direct flights from Oakland to Terceira in the winter but there is from Boston to multiple destination in the Azores so you could fly from Boston if convenient. You can book with SATA directly online at http://www.sata.pt/en (English version). Here you will find out if they have a flight from where and when you want to go. I booked with them directly last year and had no problems booking with multiple destinations within the Azores. Their calender also gives you best fares dates. Hope this helps. E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: San Francisco and Oakland, CA
That is so true. I remember the pickle smell on our way to Oakland via San Pablo Avenue. Brings back fond memories. L. (Silva) Harrah In a message dated 1/20/2010 10:13:34 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ccgran...@yahoo.com writes: A large number of Portuguese came to West Oakland and San Leandro from HI after they finished their agreed upon time working on the sugar plantations in HI. As I was growing up in the 40's, there seemed to be a lot of Portuguese from mainland Portugal in Hayward. These people worked in the Hunt's Cannery and the Pickle Factory, and in the fields and orchards around Hayward and San Leandro. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Iris Bilodeau irisca...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: San Francisco and Oakland, CA To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:49 AM I haven't seen San Leandro mentioned. lots of Portuguese there also. Some streets have Portuguese names. Iris --- On Tue, 1/19/10, Alvin Goularte agoula...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alvin Goularte agoula...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: San Francisco and Oakland, CA To: azores@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 10:38 AM A bit of info about Oakland: It is accross the San Francisco Bay from SF and was originally founded by Portuguese people for Portuguese people. Al From: bbffrrpp bbffr...@comcast.net To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 1:01:59 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: San Francisco and Oakland, CA Hi Eric, Thank you for that information. I wonder if the supposedly un-related MOURA families in the Oakland area connected up with each other. Betty On Jan 17, 7:48 pm, eric edgar _noblankt...@gmail.com_ (http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=noblankt...@gmail.com) wrote: Betty, The weekly Portuguese newspaper O Portugal first appeared in New Bedford, Massachusetts, started by Alberto Moura of Chaves, Portugal, who sold the newspaper two years later and moved to California. Alberto was an Attorney, also had a Portuguese languague paper in Oakland . Mt wife's grandparents bought his house in East Oakland abt 1943 . Many of his books were left behind. I'll look at a connection. Eric EdgarOn Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:25 AM, bbffrrpp _bbffr...@comcast.net_ (http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bbffr...@comcast.net) wrote: Hello, I found out last year that Francisco Frank MOURA and his family probably lived in Oakland, CA.And I believe that is right beside San Francisco.So, I'm curious if there was and is a large Portuguese / Azorean community there. Elsie MOURA arrived in Boston, MA ~1905, and possibly with a sister, Rosa MOURA, both young girls. I don't know who they traveled with. Their mother and younger sister, Carolina, arrived ~1910 to join them.They had 2 brothers, Francisco MOURA and Manuel MOURA, and I only have tidbits of information on them.I'm guessing they arrived shortly after 1910.I don't know if they lived in different MA cities before they left the state.Manny moved to Brooklyn, NY, where census shows other MOURA families lived.But, Frank moved to reportedly wine country in CA. I found out it was probably Oakland.Elsie was my (now) husband's grandmother. Betty(near Lowell, MA, USA) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+_unsubscr...@googlegroups.com_ (http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) azores%_2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com_ (http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+_unsubscr...@googlegroups.com_ (http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at _http://groups.google.com/group/Azores_ (http://groups.google.com/group/Azores) . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+_unsubscr...@googlegroups.com_ (http://us.mc542.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . Follow
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: BRUM in Fayal, azores
Hi, I haven't done any research beyond my dad's family who came from Capelo, Fayal, Azores thru RI and then on to California. My aunt Constance (Constancia (dad's younger sister) married Frank (Francisco Brum) upon leaving the Azores approx 1924 and then on to California same year bringing an infant son, Frank. They resided in Ripon/Escalon, CA and had 2 more sons, Joseph and George. Francisco and Constancia, as I understand it, were first cousins. My paternal grandmother was Maria de Coracao de Jesus Brum. My dad's father was Jose Correia da Rosa Silveira. Dad had 11 brothers and sisters. Half the brothers had the last name of da Silva, Silva, Silvia and the other half were Rose. Very complicated when you had two full brothers living in the same town explaining they were not half brothers. I guess this was very common. I read all of your e-mails and am envious as to how far back you've all gone. I keep hoping I'll see some connection to my family. Needless to say I need to work much harder. Laura _lharrah...@aol.com_ (mailto:lharrah...@aol.com) In a message dated 7/24/2009 11:46:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carmen_furt...@yahoo.com writes: E I found the manifest you are mentioning. I found John (Joao) living in Plymouth, Massachusetts on the 1900 and 1910 censuses. I find his two youngest children living with Joseph S. Luis and Mary Luis in Hanford, Kings, California on the 1920 census. I think Mary is John's sister. I found that John's wife Priscilla died in childbirth on June 27, 1913 in Plymouth, Massachusetts. I can not understand why the manifest would have California and not Massachusetts on it. It looks as if he went to get Maria Pinheiro to bring her to California. Evidently he does have a California connection. Just found a Joao S Brown arriving in Boston on April 25, 1890 on the Sarah going to California. Do you think these two Joao's are one and the same? Anybody have any Brum ancestors? Thankjs. Carmen From: bellema...@gmail.com bellema...@gmail.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com; carmen furtado carmen_furt...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:38:59 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: BRUM in Fayal, azores Carmen, I found a Joao S. Brum 41, under Nationality, it says U. S. A., sailing on the S. S. Cretic from Sao Miguel March 25, 1913, last permanent residence Pedro Miguel, Faial, , going to San Jose CA. It says his Certificate was taken in Monterey County, CA. What is strange it says he was born in Sao Miguel, but where it lists city or town, there is just a line there. The person next to him on the list is a Maria Pinheiro leaving her aunt Francisca Delfina,Pedro Miguel was bon in Pedro Miguel?? It think he went back and forth more than once. Will keep looking if you think this is him. E **A bad credit score is 600 below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585106x1201462830/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgI D=62bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Why our Portuguese ancestors moved so often used
I've come to the realization that It is extremely difficult tracing family (duh!). My family came from Capelo, Faial. My dad came from a family of 11. On entering the US, half came with the name Rose (da Rosa). The other half came with the name of da Silva or just Silva. One uncle in RI changed his last name to Silvia. My paternal grandfather's name was actually Jose Silveira as I understand it.My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Maria Brum but she was mostly known as Maria de Jesus. She was married to Jose Silveira my gfather). All 11 children had the middle name of Correia (I don't know where that came from; I'm thinking that might have been an important descendant. One aunt married a first cousin who's name was Francisco Brum. My uncle Manuel married a first cousin, Theresa. This goes on and on. On my mother's side, her maiden name was Andrade and her middle name was Cunha. So where did the Cunha come from? A couple of years ago I had a cousin in Faial attempt to get records in Horta on my mother's family. Papers sent to me listed about 5 Filomena Andrade's from Capelo all around the same time as my mother's existence. I haven't pursued tracing family since then and I don't know if I will. Maybe on my next trip to Faial. Good luck to all. I enjoy reading all the e-mails and I'm astonished as to how many of you have ancestors in common. Interesting. Maybe before I get too senile I'll work at it. It's just too overwhelming right now. Laura from California In a message dated 6/12/2009 4:51:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, morinmi1...@gmail.com writes: Hello group, I hope someone has the answer to these questions. Maybe someone in their family explained why. I've been having a rough time tracing my family. Slowly but surely I am finding new information. and can credit that success to being able to cross reference information found at the UMass Dartmouth Paper. One of my biggest problems has been the frequency in which they moved and changed their names. I don't know if others have experienced that or not or maybe it was just most of my family on the run. LOL A recent example is a relative named Arsenio Pamplona Corte Real Camara. I've found him using the names Harrison Cambra, Harrison Camara, the above name, Arsenio Camara/Cambra and Frank Perry/Pereira. Absolutely unbelievable!!! You'd think they were living in this day age and were afraid of identify theft. Curiosity is my main reason for the questions but am I to expect this with most of my Portuguese ancestors? I've definitely found it to be the case with the moving part but the name changes too??? Thank you for your time. Regards, Michelle **An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221322979x1201367215/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=62bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Y-DNA Upgrade Sale
Cheri Yes.? Thank you. Laura -Original Message- From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 18 May 2009 9:58 am Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Y-DNA Upgrade Sale Laura, I don't know what you mean by most information is obtained from the male's DNA.? It's a lot easier to use the male DNA to find a match within a genealogical time frame.? The female or mitochondrial (mt) DNA is more anthropological in nature.? However, we have two mtDNA matches in the Azores project. Is that what you meant? Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Y-DNA Upgrade Sale
Cheri, Good information. I've hesitated doing the DNA test because most information is obtained from the male's DNA rather than the female's. Can you enlighten me on this? Laura In a message dated 5/14/2009 10:58:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gfsche...@gmail.com writes: For those of you who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), you will have received a notification about the Y-DNA upgrade sale. This sale is for those who have already had a test run, either 12, 25, or 37 marker level. If you tested out to the full 67 marker level, you did not receive this notification. This sale is from May 14th through Saturday, May 23rd (11:59pm CDT). On average, the reduced prices are about 25% lower than the standard upgrade price (depending on your marker level and how many more makers you want). To find out the prices, you will need to log into your FTDNA page with your kit number and password. This info was provided to you in the email sent out by FTDNA announcing the sale. DO NOT FORWARD THE EMAIL FROM FAMILY TREE DNA TO OTHERS It contains your password! After logging into your page, look in the left column for the heading My Account. Under that you will see Order Tests Upgrades. Click that. The next window that opens is Order Additional DNA Tests. You want the top one, Standard Orders. (Click the orange Go to Standard Orders button). A new window opens. From the drop down menu you will see the upgrade options available to you. Katherine Borges (the other Azores DNA admin) and I disagree on the following theory about the Azores DNA project. I still feel that the first 12 markers are anthropological in nature. They give you your haplogroup (where you fit on the tree of mankind) and the fact that you are related to someone 70,000 years ago (think Fred Flintstone). There are many that match on the first 12 markers and the match falls apart when the testees go out to 25 or more markers. There are two 25 exact marker matches. One pair of testees went out to 37 and the match fell apart. One participant of the other pair of testees has not gone up to 37 markers, so I do not know if that match will hold up. This level of markers gets you within a thousand years ago (depending on the mismatches). We have one pair of testees that do match on 37 markers. I do not know if they were able to establish a paper trail connection. This level of testing usually brings you to a genealogy relevant time frame, where you can establish a paper trail with another person. I feel eventually, over time, as we get more and more matches, that people will need to test out to at least the 37 marker level. We have 165 testees and about 20 or so matches (not all are within a genealogy time frame, however; many are anthropological). If you want to know whether or not to upgrade, I think that if you have the funds available, go ahead and do it while there's a sale. Someday, you will have a match and you will need to upgrade and you'll pay the regular price. I think it's just a matter of time until the database for the Azores DNA project is large enough to start having many matches. I'm sure that there were hundreds of families that settled in the Azores since their founding and we have only 160 or so families represented right now in the project. NEW ORDERS: What about people who have never tested and are thinking about it? I know last year, they ran a Sizzling Summer Sale. Also, for the past 4 or 5 years, they have run a sale in December. The only other sale for new orders was last year at the Southern CA Genealogy Jamboree in Burbank, California. If you bought a kit there, you got a sale price (something like a 37 marker which is $149 group price (you order through the Azores Group to get the discount) was $119 (I think) on sale. That's a really good price, as a 37 marker test retails for $248. This year the Jamboree is June 26-28. I will be there and if there is a sale, I will let the list know. We can work out the particulars from there. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Administrator Azores DNA **A strong credit score is 700 or above. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585011x1201462751/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115; bcd=Maystrongfooter51709NO115) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Capelo, Faial
Hi, Is there any information available regarding Capelo, Faial? L **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
