Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

 Judy Russell, The Legal Genealogist, blogged about this again. She says:

<>
Full article here.
https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2019/12/02/fight-the-fee-hikes/

I will be quiet about this for a few days.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 1:08 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Thanks, Marilyn!
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:25 PM Marilyn Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> I just wrote using the URL and I sent an email to my congressman telling
>> he needed to protect the rights of the people.
>> Marilyn T
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:09 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Edna. The more that write, the better!
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:02 AM Comcast Dave-Edna 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you  I have sent my comments .


 On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

 
 Thanks for keeping us posted!

 Here's what I did. I went to the URL Elaine posted (yes, the question
 mark is part of it):
 https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/?

 Then I opened the writing prompt tab and reworded and blended a couple
 of them together:
 https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/conversation-starters/

 I'm going to bug the list(s) every few days to do this.
 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
 Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


 On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:40 AM Elaine Mello 
 wrote:

> I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to
> their lawyers about this.  Apparently, a lot of these records should have
> been turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on
> the https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they
> can in the short term stop the increase while they work on the longterm to
> release the records.
>
> Elaine
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Thanks, Marilyn!
Cheri Mello
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Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:25 PM Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

> I just wrote using the URL and I sent an email to my congressman telling
> he needed to protect the rights of the people.
> Marilyn T
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:09 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Edna. The more that write, the better!
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:02 AM Comcast Dave-Edna 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you  I have sent my comments .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Thanks for keeping us posted!
>>>
>>> Here's what I did. I went to the URL Elaine posted (yes, the question
>>> mark is part of it):
>>> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/?
>>>
>>> Then I opened the writing prompt tab and reworded and blended a couple
>>> of them together:
>>> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/conversation-starters/
>>>
>>> I'm going to bug the list(s) every few days to do this.
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:40 AM Elaine Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to
 their lawyers about this.  Apparently, a lot of these records should have
 been turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on
 the https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they
 can in the short term stop the increase while they work on the longterm to
 release the records.

 Elaine

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Marilyn Thompson]

I just wrote using the URL and I sent an email to my congressman telling he
needed to protect the rights of the people.
Marilyn T

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:09 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Thanks Edna. The more that write, the better!
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:02 AM Comcast Dave-Edna 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you  I have sent my comments .
>>
>>
>> On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Thanks for keeping us posted!
>>
>> Here's what I did. I went to the URL Elaine posted (yes, the question
>> mark is part of it):
>> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/?
>>
>> Then I opened the writing prompt tab and reworded and blended a couple of
>> them together:
>> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/conversation-starters/
>>
>> I'm going to bug the list(s) every few days to do this.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:40 AM Elaine Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to
>>> their lawyers about this.  Apparently, a lot of these records should have
>>> been turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on
>>> the https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they can
>>> in the short term stop the increase while they work on the longterm to
>>> release the records.
>>>
>>> Elaine
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Thanks Edna. The more that write, the better!
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:02 AM Comcast Dave-Edna 
wrote:

> Thank you  I have sent my comments .
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks for keeping us posted!
>
> Here's what I did. I went to the URL Elaine posted (yes, the question mark
> is part of it):
> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/?
>
> Then I opened the writing prompt tab and reworded and blended a couple of
> them together:
> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/conversation-starters/
>
> I'm going to bug the list(s) every few days to do this.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:40 AM Elaine Mello  wrote:
>
>> I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to
>> their lawyers about this.  Apparently, a lot of these records should have
>> been turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on
>> the https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they can
>> in the short term stop the increase while they work on the longterm to
>> release the records.
>>
>> Elaine
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Comcast Dave-Edna]

Thank you  I have sent my comments .


> On Dec 1, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for keeping us posted!
> 
> Here's what I did. I went to the URL Elaine posted (yes, the question mark is 
> part of it):
> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/?
> 
> Then I opened the writing prompt tab and reworded and blended a couple of 
> them together:
> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/conversation-starters/
> 
> I'm going to bug the list(s) every few days to do this.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:40 AM Elaine Mello  wrote:
>> I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to their 
>> lawyers about this.  Apparently, a lot of these records should have been 
>> turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on the 
>> https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they can in the 
>> short term stop the increase while they work on the longterm to release the 
>> records.
>> 
>> Elaine 
>>> .
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Thanks for keeping us posted!

Here's what I did. I went to the URL Elaine posted (yes, the question mark
is part of it):
https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/?

Then I opened the writing prompt tab and reworded and blended a couple of
them together:
https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/conversation-starters/

I'm going to bug the list(s) every few days to do this.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 8:40 AM Elaine Mello  wrote:

> I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to
> their lawyers about this.  Apparently, a lot of these records should have
> been turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on
> the https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they can
> in the short term stop the increase while they work on the longterm to
> release the records.
>
> Elaine
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Elaine Mello]

I just got an email from Reclaim the Records, and they are talking to their 
lawyers about this.  Apparently, a lot of these records should have been 
turned over to NARA a while ago, but they urge everyone to comment on the 
https://www.recordsnotrevenue.com/? page in the hopes that they can in the 
short term stop the increase while they work on the longterm to release the 
records.

Elaine 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Elaine Mello]

hi Rick,
   
They immigrated at the turn of the century and ended up in New Bedford, 
MA.  I found my grandfather's declaration on Ancestry, and sent in for 
information for both grandparents only to find out that the USCIS had 
nothing they could find.  It was recommended I try the state judicial 
archives, and sent them a request with money and never heard back from them 
on those records.

 If the Federal Archives have them in Waltham, that would be good to 
know.  I did ask the state archives in Dorchester whether they had 
anything, and they said I could try and submit a request and they'd do a 
search, but I haven't gone that route yet. 

On Friday, November 22, 2019 at 8:32:03 PM UTC-5, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:
>
> *When did your grandparents become citizens? Where? Did they live in 
> Massachusetts?*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Lee, NH*
>
>  
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and 
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Judy Russell, The Legal Genealogist, blogged about the proposed rate hike,
and a place to complain (with samples and writing prompts). You must
complete this by MONDAY, DECEMBER 16.
https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2019/11/21/records-not-revenue/



On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 5:32 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *When did your grandparents become citizens? Where? Did they live in
> Massachusetts?*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Lee, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Elaine
> Mello
> *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 8:20 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching
> U.S. Naturalization records
>
>
>
>
>
> I tried to find my grandparents records and they couldn't find anything.
> In fact, it was suggested I try the court records here in Boston and I
> reached out to someone and never heard back from them.
>
>
>
> I'd love for someone to get these scanned.  If they can actually find
> them, since the government can't seem to do the job for any cost.
>
>
>
> Elaine
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

When did your grandparents become citizens? Where? Did they live in 
Massachusetts?

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Elaine 
Mello
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 8:20 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. 
Naturalization records

 

 

I tried to find my grandparents records and they couldn't find anything.  In 
fact, it was suggested I try the court records here in Boston and I reached out 
to someone and never heard back from them.  

 

I'd love for someone to get these scanned.  If they can actually find them, 
since the government can't seem to do the job for any cost.

 

Elaine 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Elaine Mello]

> I tried to find my grandparents records and they couldn't find anything.  
> In fact, it was suggested I try the court records here in Boston and I 
> reached out to someone and never heard back from them.  
>

I'd love for someone to get these scanned.  If they can actually find them, 
since the government can't seem to do the job for any cost.

Elaine 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

This isn't an increase for those researching Portuguese ancestors. This is
an increase for ANYONE researching ANY immigrant ancestor to America.

However, since you suggested PALCUS, you can contact them here and ask them
to help: pal...@palcus.org
Keep us posted on what they say.
Cheri


On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 8:42 AM Gordon soares  wrote:

> Can PALCUS do anything about this terrible increase?
> Gordon soares
> gws...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *Date:* November 19, 2019 at 11:40:20 AM MST
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject:* *[AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S.
> Naturalization records*
> *Reply-To:* azores@googlegroups.com
>
> 
> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>
> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>
> Cheri Mello
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Can PALCUS do anything about this terrible increase?
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Begin forwarded message:

> From: Cheri Mello 
> Date: November 19, 2019 at 11:40:20 AM MST
> To: Azores Genealogy 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. 
> Naturalization records
> Reply-To: azores@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization 
> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>  
> 
> Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

When Rosemarie brought up "Reclaim the Records" yesterday, I said I knew
that they did state things, but I didn't know if they did Federal records.
So I looked.

>From https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/to-do/

[image: image.png]
[image: image.png]

It's not sounding that hopeful, if you ask me.
Cheri


On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:40 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I have to check the datesSomething like 1925 and before are on film.
> Don't quote me on the year, I have to look it up. The others (after
> whatever the year is) are the ones that's  $200 something for the index
> search and almost $400 for the actual records. It adds up to about $600.
> Marilyn did the math, so you'd have to look in a previous post.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:38 PM Ms AVA  wrote:
>
>> Cheri -
>>
>> Back at the first Azores Conference that You and Rosemarie hosted, we
>> were at the LDS History Center.  Patsy and I found my Grandfather's 1904
>> Naturalization Application and his 1905 Naturalization Certificates, along
>> with that of my Great Uncle Pinheiro.
>>
>> Guess we were really lucky.
>>
>> ALLY Vieira Anselmo/Pinheiro Nunes
>> Sao Miguel & Faial
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:18 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, that is correct. I read it the same way.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 4:13 PM Marilyn Thompson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cheri I am reading the cost differently. The index search is $240 and
>>>> Record Request is $368. If you do both of them that is $608. It was hard
>>>> enough to pay $65 for the index search and then to maybe not get anything.
>>>>
>>>> Is this index supposed to be for all naturalizations no matter what
>>>> state they were done in
>>>>
>>>> That is a terrible cost. I agree with Rosemarie it should be under the
>>>> Freedom of Info Act.
>>>>
>>>> Marilyn
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:20 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>>> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I
>>>>> was able to verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in 
>>>>> fact
>>>>> there and they pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able
>>>>> to have a copy made which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so
>>>>> much to get a copy of a record. I personally think they want to charge so
>>>>> much that no one can afford to make a request. They will have nothing to 
>>>>> do
>>>>> and they will sit around all day playing on their computers and watching
>>>>> videos.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rick*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Lee, NH*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>>>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>>>>> Of *Cheri Mello
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
>>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>>>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching
>>>>> U.S. Naturalization records
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S.
>>>>> Naturalization records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

I have to check the datesSomething like 1925 and before are on film.
Don't quote me on the year, I have to look it up. The others (after
whatever the year is) are the ones that's  $200 something for the index
search and almost $400 for the actual records. It adds up to about $600.
Marilyn did the math, so you'd have to look in a previous post.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:38 PM Ms AVA  wrote:

> Cheri -
>
> Back at the first Azores Conference that You and Rosemarie hosted, we were
> at the LDS History Center.  Patsy and I found my Grandfather's 1904
> Naturalization Application and his 1905 Naturalization Certificates, along
> with that of my Great Uncle Pinheiro.
>
> Guess we were really lucky.
>
> ALLY Vieira Anselmo/Pinheiro Nunes
> Sao Miguel & Faial
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:18 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is correct. I read it the same way.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 4:13 PM Marilyn Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Cheri I am reading the cost differently. The index search is $240 and
>>> Record Request is $368. If you do both of them that is $608. It was hard
>>> enough to pay $65 for the index search and then to maybe not get anything.
>>>
>>> Is this index supposed to be for all naturalizations no matter what
>>> state they were done in
>>>
>>> That is a terrible cost. I agree with Rosemarie it should be under the
>>> Freedom of Info Act.
>>>
>>> Marilyn
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:20 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
>>> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I
>>>> was able to verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in fact
>>>> there and they pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able
>>>> to have a copy made which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so
>>>> much to get a copy of a record. I personally think they want to charge so
>>>> much that no one can afford to make a request. They will have nothing to do
>>>> and they will sit around all day playing on their computers and watching
>>>> videos.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Rick*
>>>>
>>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>>
>>>> *Lee, NH*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
>>>> Of *Cheri Mello
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
>>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching
>>>> U.S. Naturalization records
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S.
>>>> Naturalization records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheri Mello
>>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Ms AVA]

Cheri -

Back at the first Azores Conference that You and Rosemarie hosted, we were
at the LDS History Center.  Patsy and I found my Grandfather's 1904
Naturalization Application and his 1905 Naturalization Certificates, along
with that of my Great Uncle Pinheiro.

Guess we were really lucky.

ALLY Vieira Anselmo/Pinheiro Nunes
Sao Miguel & Faial


On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:18 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Yes, that is correct. I read it the same way.
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 4:13 PM Marilyn Thompson  wrote:
>
>> Cheri I am reading the cost differently. The index search is $240 and
>> Record Request is $368. If you do both of them that is $608. It was hard
>> enough to pay $65 for the index search and then to maybe not get anything.
>>
>> Is this index supposed to be for all naturalizations no matter what state
>> they were done in
>>
>> That is a terrible cost. I agree with Rosemarie it should be under the
>> Freedom of Info Act.
>>
>> Marilyn
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:20 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
>> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I was
>>> able to verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in fact
>>> there and they pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able
>>> to have a copy made which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so
>>> much to get a copy of a record. I personally think they want to charge so
>>> much that no one can afford to make a request. They will have nothing to do
>>> and they will sit around all day playing on their computers and watching
>>> videos.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Rick*
>>>
>>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>>
>>> *Lee, NH*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>>> *Cheri Mello
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
>>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S.
>>> Naturalization records
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
>>> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>>>
>>>
>>> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

['Bill Boyd' via Azores Genealogy]

 Perhaps someone should contact Reclaim the Records:
https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/

Bill
On Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 07:19:00 PM PST, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes, that is correct. I read it the same way.
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 4:13 PM Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

Cheri I am reading the cost differently. The index search is $240 and Record 
Request is $368. If you do both of them that is $608. It was hard enough to pay 
$65 for the index search and then to maybe not get anything.
Is this index supposed to be for all naturalizations no matter what state they 
were done in

That is a terrible cost. I agree with Rosemarie it should be under the Freedom 
of Info Act.
Marilyn
On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:20 PM Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:


Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I was able to 
verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in fact there and they 
pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able to have a copy made 
which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so much to get a copy of a 
record. I personally think they want to charge so much that no one can afford 
to make a request. They will have nothing to do and they will sit around all 
day playing on their computers and watching videos.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. 
Naturalization records

 

Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization 
records. The new fees are ridiculous!

https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
 

 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Yes, that is correct. I read it the same way.

On Wed, Nov 20, 2019, 4:13 PM Marilyn Thompson  wrote:

> Cheri I am reading the cost differently. The index search is $240 and
> Record Request is $368. If you do both of them that is $608. It was hard
> enough to pay $65 for the index search and then to maybe not get anything.
>
> Is this index supposed to be for all naturalizations no matter what state
> they were done in
>
> That is a terrible cost. I agree with Rosemarie it should be under the
> Freedom of Info Act.
>
> Marilyn
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:20 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
> rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> *Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I was
>> able to verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in fact
>> there and they pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able
>> to have a copy made which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so
>> much to get a copy of a record. I personally think they want to charge so
>> much that no one can afford to make a request. They will have nothing to do
>> and they will sit around all day playing on their computers and watching
>> videos.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rick*
>>
>> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>>
>> *Lee, NH*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
>> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Cheri
>> Mello
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
>> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
>> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S.
>> Naturalization records
>>
>>
>>
>> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
>> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>>
>>
>> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Marilyn Thompson]

Cheri I am reading the cost differently. The index search is $240 and
Record Request is $368. If you do both of them that is $608. It was hard
enough to pay $65 for the index search and then to maybe not get anything.

Is this index supposed to be for all naturalizations no matter what state
they were done in

That is a terrible cost. I agree with Rosemarie it should be under the
Freedom of Info Act.

Marilyn

On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 2:20 PM Richard Francis Pimentel <
rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I was
> able to verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in fact
> there and they pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able
> to have a copy made which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so
> much to get a copy of a record. I personally think they want to charge so
> much that no one can afford to make a request. They will have nothing to do
> and they will sit around all day playing on their computers and watching
> videos.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Lee, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Cheri
> Mello
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S.
> Naturalization records
>
>
>
> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>
>
> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>
>
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Reclaim the RecordsThat's a thought, but do they do Federal records or
just state records?
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 11:36 AM Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> This is all so crazy because under the Freedom of Info Act we should be
> getting it all for FREE! Maybe we need to get Reclaim the Records to do
> after this garbage.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:40 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
>> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>>
>> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Around 2004 I went to the National Records Center in Waltham, MA. I was able to 
verify that the Naturalization Record I was seeking was in fact there and they 
pulled the record for me which was the original. I was able to have a copy made 
which was around 25 cents.  This is crazy charging so much to get a copy of a 
record. I personally think they want to charge so much that no one can afford 
to make a request. They will have nothing to do and they will sit around all 
day playing on their computers and watching videos.

 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Lee, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 1:40 PM
To: Azores Genealogy 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. 
Naturalization records

 

Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization 
records. The new fees are ridiculous!

https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
 

 

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

This is all so crazy because under the Freedom of Info Act we should be
getting it all for FREE! Maybe we need to get Reclaim the Records to do
after this garbage.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:40 AM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>
> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Yes. And to get the ACTUAL records (after searching the index) is almost
$400!!!

Why don't they just digitize the older ones and let us hunt through them?
Complete insanity!!
Cheri Mello
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:51 AM Gordon soares  wrote:

> WHAT THE HECK??? That IS ridiculous! If I can wade through the junk
> english I may try sending a response for the record but my experience tells
> me that once it is published for comment it is already a done deal and the
> comments only help justify that they “got comments” .
> Gordon
>
> On Nov 19, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
>
> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Gordon soares]

WHAT THE HECK??? That IS ridiculous! If I can wade through the junk english I 
may try sending a response for the record but my experience tells me that once 
it is published for comment it is already a done deal and the comments only 
help justify that they “got comments” .
Gordon

> On Nov 19, 2019, at 11:39 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization 
> records. The new fees are ridiculous!
> https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/
>  
> 
>  
> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Huge increase in price for searching U.S. Naturalization records

[Cheri Mello]

Dick Eastman wrote about the huge price increase for U.S. Naturalization
records. The new fees are ridiculous!
https://blog.eogn.com/2019/11/15/uscis-proposes-fee-increases-for-genealogy-records/

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