Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-09 Thread 'herb' via Azores Genealogy
thank you so much JR. Herb

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2019, at 12:34 AM, JR  wrote:
> 
> This is baptism of Manoel, bap- March 23- 1873, Furnas, No- 30, (matches 
> birth date of record Margaret posted) , filho de Jose Rebelo and Maria de 
> Jesus. Says they are natives of Furnas.
> 
> http://culturacoresazores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1870-1876/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1870-1876_item1/P113.html
> 
> JR
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 11:00:53 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>> Cheri, didn’t see that email.  Thank you.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Cheri Mello
>> Sent: May 7, 2019 10:33 PM
>> To: Azores Genealogy
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That's for Herb. I'm not researching the guy. The dates are way off from the 
>> original immigration of 1865-1873, and if Manuel dies in 1950-1955 at the 
>> age of 90, then he was born 1860-1865. Still doesn't fit what I found. So 
>> Herb and his friend have more work to do. It's the closest I can find, but 
>> it's like putting a square peg into a round hole.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:26 PM Margaret Vicente  wrote:
>> 
>> Cheri,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here are the details
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> José Rebelo
>> Description level
>>  Item
>> 
>> Reference code
>> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
>> 
>> Date range
>> 1882-03-30 
>> 
>> Scope and content
>> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
>> Idade: 42 anos.
>> Estado: Casado.
>> Profissão: Trabalhador.
>> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
>> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 
>> anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
>> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
>> Destino: Sandwich.
>> Description physical location
>> Lv. 1385
>> Nº 0304/1882
>>  
>> 
>> Margaret
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Cheri Mello
>> Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
>> To: Azores Genealogy
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The immigration year is wy off as well.
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page 
>> 375:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
>> 
>> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
>> 
>> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's 
>> typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my 
>> typo again.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) 
>> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been 
>> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the 
>> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or 
>> not.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: 
>> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
>> 
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Debbie
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 
>> 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta 
>> were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s 
>> father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from 
>> one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used 
>> Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Herb 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-08 Thread JR
This is baptism of Manoel, bap- March 23- 1873, Furnas, No- 30, (matches 
birth date of record Margaret posted) , filho de Jose Rebelo and Maria de 
Jesus. Says they are natives of Furnas.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1870-1876/SMG-PV-FURNAS-B-1870-1876_item1/P113.html

JR



On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 11:00:53 PM UTC-4, Mara wrote:
>
> Cheri, didn’t see that email.  Thank you. 
>
>  
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *May 7, 2019 10:33 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>
>  
>
> That's for Herb. I'm not researching the guy. The dates are way off from 
> the original immigration of 1865-1873, and if Manuel dies in 1950-1955 at 
> the age of 90, then he was born 1860-1865. Still doesn't fit what I found. 
> So Herb and his friend have more work to do. It's the closest I can find, 
> but it's like putting a square peg into a round hole.
>
>  
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:26 PM Margaret Vicente  > wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
>  
>
> Here are the details
>
>  
>
> *José* *Rebelo*
> Description level
>
> [image: Item] Item
> Reference code
>
> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
> Date range
>
> 1882-03-30 [image: Date is certain]
> Scope and content
>
> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
>
> Idade: 42 anos.
>
> Estado: Casado.
>
> Profissão: Trabalhador.
>
> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
>
> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 
> 9 anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
>
> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
>
> Destino: Sandwich.
> Description physical location
>
> Lv. 1385
>
> Nº 0304/1882
>
>  
>
> Margaret
>
>  
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>
>  
>
> The immigration year is wy off as well.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  > wrote:
>
> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, 
> page 375:
>
>  
>
> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
>
> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
>
> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
>
>  
>
> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And 
> it's typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so 
> not my typo again.
>
>  
>
> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) 
> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been 
> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.
>
>  
>
> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
>
>  
>
> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the 
> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family 
> or not.
>
>  
>
> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: 
> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> Thanks Debbie
>
>  
>
> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to 
> the 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not 
> Henriquetta were living in San Leandro with their children including 
> Joseph. Manuel’s father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come 
> over to Hawaii from one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe 
> which one. Maybe he used Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>
>  
>
> Herb 
>
>  
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello > 
> wrote:
>
> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
>
>  
>
> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
>
>  
>
> Post:
>
> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
>
>  
>
> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother 
>Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not 
> finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.  
>
>  
>
> His son used Joseph Robello Vardas

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-08 Thread Marcos Saturno
Hi guys,
Just remember that Roballo or robalo as it is spelt now is the name of a fish, 
sea bass in English.
One of my mother’s best friends  married name was “Sardinha” (Sardine).
As in English we have surnames such as Salmon and Sturgeon.
Hope this helps,
Marcos

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 May 2019, at 03:17, Cheri Mello 
mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page 
>375:

Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2

NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's 
typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my 
typo again.

NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) arriving 
in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been crossed out 
and written over, as there's errors there too.

There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.

The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the ages 
in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or not.

Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: 
http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Thanks Debbie

yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 
1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta 
were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s 
father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from 
one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used 
Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?

Herb

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello 
mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com

Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.

Post:
Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)

That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother
Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not finding 
Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.

His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, 
Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca.

Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.

Debbie


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello 
mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no 
Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a son, 
Manuel. :(
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy 
mailto:azores@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg 
grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is the 
spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was Henrietta da 
Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala Hawaii. with his 
father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived in Hawaii  possibly  
1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe is is Alameda County and 
died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is buried possibly in Hayward 
CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there are alot  of great researchers 
in this part of California  and hoping someone may recognize this family.  The 
1900 census in Hawaii shows a Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 
27.  Thanks, Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread Cheri Mello
No problem. Herb did see it. So he'll have to reconcile it with his
friend's information :)
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 8:00 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Cheri, didn’t see that email.  Thank you.
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *May 7, 2019 10:33 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>
>
>
> That's for Herb. I'm not researching the guy. The dates are way off from
> the original immigration of 1865-1873, and if Manuel dies in 1950-1955 at
> the age of 90, then he was born 1860-1865. Still doesn't fit what I found.
> So Herb and his friend have more work to do. It's the closest I can find,
> but it's like putting a square peg into a round hole.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:26 PM Margaret Vicente 
> wrote:
>
> Cheri,
>
>
>
> Here are the details
>
>
>
> *José* *Rebelo*
> Description level
>
> [image: Item] Item
> Reference code
>
> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
> Date range
>
> 1882-03-30 [image: Date is certain]
> Scope and content
>
> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
>
> Idade: 42 anos.
>
> Estado: Casado.
>
> Profissão: Trabalhador.
>
> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
>
> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de
> 9 anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
>
> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
>
> Destino: Sandwich.
> Description physical location
>
> Lv. 1385
>
> Nº 0304/1882
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>
>
>
> The immigration year is wy off as well.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr,
> page 375:
>
>
>
> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
>
> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
>
> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
>
>
>
> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And
> it's typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so
> not my typo again.
>
>
>
> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892)
> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been
> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.
>
>
>
> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
>
>
>
> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the
> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family
> or not.
>
>
>
> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes:
> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Debbie
>
>
>
> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to
> the 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not
> Henriquetta were living in San Leandro with their children including
> Joseph. Manuel’s father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come
> over to Hawaii from one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe
> which one. Maybe he used Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>
>
>
> Herb
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
>
>
>
> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
>
>
>
> Post:
>
> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
>
>
>
> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother
>Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not
> finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.
>
>
>
> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala,
> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca.
>
>
>
> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.
>
>
>
&

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread 'herb' via Azores Genealogy
25 not 15

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2019, at 10:42 PM, 'herb' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> 
> thanks Margaret but something is still not clicking. Manuel Roballo was 62 
> years old during the 1930 California census and Andrieta was 44. If his age 
> was correct at 62’ he would have been born in 1868 and upon his arrival in 
> 1893 on the Monarch would have been  15 years old not 9. Those ages were 
> often wrong but usually only by a year or  two maybe 3 but not 6. Still it is 
> a very promising lead. Many thanks to you and Cheri.
> 
> Herb
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 7, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Margaret Vicente  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Cheri,
>>  
>> Here are the details
>>  
>> José Rebelo
>> Description level
>>  Item
>> Reference code
>> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
>> Date range
>> 1882-03-30 <60802E80CABF4E0B899757B157082214.png>
>> Scope and content
>> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
>> Idade: 42 anos.
>> Estado: Casado.
>> Profissão: Trabalhador.
>> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
>> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 
>> anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
>> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
>> Destino: Sandwich.
>> Description physical location
>> Lv. 1385
>> Nº 0304/1882
>>  
>> Margaret
>>  
>> From: Cheri Mello
>> Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
>> To: Azores Genealogy
>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>>  
>> The immigration year is wy off as well.
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>  
>>  
>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page 
>> 375:
>>  
>> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
>> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
>> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
>>  
>> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's 
>> typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my 
>> typo again.
>>  
>> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) 
>> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been 
>> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.
>>  
>> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
>>  
>> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the 
>> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or 
>> not.
>>  
>> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: 
>> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>  
>>  
>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy 
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks Debbie
>>  
>> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 
>> 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta 
>> were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s 
>> father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from 
>> one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one Maybe he used 
>> Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>>  
>> Herb 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> 
>> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
>>  
>> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
>>  
>> Post:
>> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
>>  
>> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother   
>>  Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not 
>> finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.  
>>  
>> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, 
>> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca. 
>>  
>> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.  
>>  
>> Debbie
>>  
>>  
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlto

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri, didn’t see that email.  Thank you. 

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: May 7, 2019 10:33 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

That's for Herb. I'm not researching the guy. The dates are way off from the 
original immigration of 1865-1873, and if Manuel dies in 1950-1955 at the age 
of 90, then he was born 1860-1865. Still doesn't fit what I found. So Herb and 
his friend have more work to do. It's the closest I can find, but it's like 
putting a square peg into a round hole.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:26 PM Margaret Vicente  
wrote:
Cheri,
 
Here are the details
 
José Rebelo
Description level
 Item
Reference code
PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
Date range
1882-03-30 
Scope and content
Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
Idade: 42 anos.
Estado: Casado.
Profissão: Trabalhador.
Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 
anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
Destino: Sandwich.
Description physical location
Lv. 1385
Nº 0304/1882
 
Margaret
 
From: Cheri Mello
Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
 
The immigration year is wy off as well.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page 
>375:
 
Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
 
NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's 
typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my 
typo again.
 
NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) arriving 
in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been crossed out 
and written over, as there's errors there too.
 
There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
 
The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the ages 
in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or not.
 
Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: 
http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Thanks Debbie
 
yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 
1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta 
were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s 
father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from 
one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used 
Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
 
Herb 
 
Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
 
Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
 
Post:
Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
 
That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother    
Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not finding 
Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.  
 
His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, 
Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca. 
 
Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.  
 
Debbie
 
 
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no 
Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a son, 
Manuel. :(

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
 
 
On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg 
grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is the 
spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was Henrietta da 
Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala Hawaii. with his 
father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived in Hawaii  possibly  
1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe is is Alameda County and 
died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is buried possibly in Hayward 
CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there are alot  of great researchers 
in this part of California  and hoping someone may recognize this family.  The 
1900 census in Hawaii shows a Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 
27.  Thanks, Herb

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread 'herb' via Azores Genealogy
thanks Margaret but something is still not clicking. Manuel Roballo was 62 
years old during the 1930 California census and Andrieta was 44. If his age was 
correct at 62’ he would have been born in 1868 and upon his arrival in 1893 on 
the Monarch would have been  15 years old not 9. Those ages were often wrong 
but usually only by a year or  two maybe 3 but not 6. Still it is a very 
promising lead. Many thanks to you and Cheri.

Herb

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2019, at 10:25 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Cheri,
>  
> Here are the details
>  
> José Rebelo
> Description level
>  Item
> Reference code
> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
> Date range
> 1882-03-30 <60802E80CABF4E0B899757B157082214.png>
> Scope and content
> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
> Idade: 42 anos.
> Estado: Casado.
> Profissão: Trabalhador.
> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 
> anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
> Destino: Sandwich.
> Description physical location
> Lv. 1385
> Nº 0304/1882
>  
> Margaret
>  
> From: Cheri Mello
> Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
> To: Azores Genealogy
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>  
> The immigration year is wy off as well.
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>  
>  
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page 
> 375:
>  
> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
>  
> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's 
> typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my 
> typo again.
>  
> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) 
> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been 
> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.
>  
> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
>  
> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the 
> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or 
> not.
>  
> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: 
> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>  
>  
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> Thanks Debbie
>  
> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 
> 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta 
> were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s 
> father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from 
> one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used 
> Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>  
> Herb 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
>  
> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
>  
> Post:
> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
>  
> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother
> Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not finding 
> Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave. 
>  
> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, 
> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca. 
>  
> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.  
>  
> Debbie
>  
>  
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no 
> Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a son, 
> Manuel. :(
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>  
>  
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
> I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg 
> grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is the 
> spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was Henrietta 
&g

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread Cheri Mello
That's for Herb. I'm not researching the guy. The dates are way off from
the original immigration of 1865-1873, and if Manuel dies in 1950-1955 at
the age of 90, then he was born 1860-1865. Still doesn't fit what I found.
So Herb and his friend have more work to do. It's the closest I can find,
but it's like putting a square peg into a round hole.

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:26 PM Margaret Vicente 
wrote:

> Cheri,
>
>
>
> Here are the details
>
>
>
> *José* *Rebelo*
> Description level
>
> [image: Item] Item
> Reference code
>
> PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
> Date range
>
> 1882-03-30 [image: Date is certain]
> Scope and content
>
> Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
>
> Idade: 42 anos.
>
> Estado: Casado.
>
> Profissão: Trabalhador.
>
> Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
>
> Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de
> 9 anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
>
> Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
>
> Destino: Sandwich.
> Description physical location
>
> Lv. 1385
>
> Nº 0304/1882
>
>
>
> Margaret
>
>
>
> *From: *Cheri Mello 
> *Sent: *May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
> *To: *Azores Genealogy 
> *Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia
>
>
>
> The immigration year is wy off as well.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr,
> page 375:
>
>
>
> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
>
> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
>
> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
>
>
>
> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And
> it's typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so
> not my typo again.
>
>
>
> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892)
> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been
> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.
>
>
>
> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
>
>
>
> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the
> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family
> or not.
>
>
>
> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes:
> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Debbie
>
>
>
> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to
> the 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not
> Henriquetta were living in San Leandro with their children including
> Joseph. Manuel’s father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come
> over to Hawaii from one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe
> which one. Maybe he used Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>
>
>
> Herb
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
>
>
>
> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
>
>
>
> Post:
>
> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
>
>
>
> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother
>Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not
> finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.
>
>
>
> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala,
> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca.
>
>
>
> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.
>
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no
> Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a
> son, Manuel. :(
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread Margaret Vicente
Cheri,

Here are the details

José Rebelo
Description level
 Item
Reference code
PT/BPARPD/ACD/GCPDL/P/001/0017/04893
Date range
1882-03-30 
Scope and content
Filiação: Francisco Rebelo e Inácia de Jesus.
Idade: 42 anos.
Estado: Casado.
Profissão: Trabalhador.
Naturalidade: Povoação. Furnas.
Acompanhantes: Sua mulher, Maria Jacinta, de 42 anos, e filhos, Manuel, de 9 
anos, José, de 3 anos, e Francisco, de 6 meses.
Embarcação: Vapor inglês Monarch.
Destino: Sandwich.
Description physical location
Lv. 1385
Nº 0304/1882

Margaret

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: May 7, 2019 10:21 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

The immigration year is wy off as well.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr, page 
>375:

Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2

NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's 
typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not my 
typo again.

NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892) arriving 
in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been crossed out 
and written over, as there's errors there too.

There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.

The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the ages 
in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family or not.

Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes: 
http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Thanks Debbie

yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 
1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta 
were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s 
father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from 
one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used 
Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?

Herb 

Sent from my iPhone

On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com

Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.

Post:
Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)

That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother    
Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not finding 
Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.  

His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, 
Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca. 

Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.  

Debbie


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no 
Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a son, 
Manuel. :(

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg 
grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is the 
spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was Henrietta da 
Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala Hawaii. with his 
father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived in Hawaii  possibly  
1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe is is Alameda County and 
died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is buried possibly in Hayward 
CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there are alot  of great researchers 
in this part of California  and hoping someone may recognize this family.  The 
1900 census in Hawaii shows a Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 
27.  Thanks, Herb
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread Cheri Mello
The immigration year is wy off as well.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr,
> page 375:
>
> Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
> Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
> Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2
>
> NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And
> it's typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so
> not my typo again.
>
> NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892)
> arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been
> crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.
>
> There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.
>
> The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the
> ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family
> or not.
>
> Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes:
> http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Debbie
>>
>> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to
>> the 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not
>> Henriquetta were living in San Leandro with their children including
>> Joseph. Manuel’s father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come
>> over to Hawaii from one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe
>> which one. Maybe he used Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>>
>> Herb
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
>>
>> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
>>
>> Post:
>> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
>>
>> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his
>> brotherManuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m
>> not finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.
>>
>> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala,
>> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca.
>>
>> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>>
>>> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no
>>> Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a
>>> son, Manuel. :(
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy <
>>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg
 grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is
 the spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was
 Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala
 Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived
 in Hawaii  possibly  1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe
 is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is
 buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there
 are alot  of great researchers in this part of California  and hoping
 someone may recognize this family.  The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a
 Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27.  Thanks, Herb

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread Cheri Mello
>From Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr,
page 375:

Vardasca, José Rebello, age 40, Monarch '93, Sao Miguel
Maria de Jesus, 38 wife
Children: Manoel 9, José 3; Francisco 1/2

NOTE: The "a" is typed on the end of Vardasca. That's not my typo. And it's
typed as Rebello, so again, not my typo. And it says Monarch 1893, so not
my typo again.

NOTE 2: The Monarch sailed from Sao Miguel on 29 March 1882 (NOT 1892)
arriving in June. Those dates are from the Bob De Mello book and have been
crossed out and written over, as there's errors there too.

There's nothing on this Vardasco/a family in the Bob De Mello book.

The Vardasca/o family from the Knowlton book doesn't entirely fit with the
ages in the previous message. You need to decide if it's the right family
or not.

Mel's description of the voyage that she posted on Your Island Routes:
http://www.yourislandroutes.com/ships/monarch.shtml
Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 3:58 PM 'herb' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thanks Debbie
>
> yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to
> the 1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not
> Henriquetta were living in San Leandro with their children including
> Joseph. Manuel’s father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come
> over to Hawaii from one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe
> which one. Maybe he used Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?
>
> Herb
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
>
> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
>
> Post:
> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
>
> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother
>Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not
> finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.
>
> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala,
> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca.
>
> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.
>
> Debbie
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>
>> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no
>> Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a
>> son, Manuel. :(
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg
>>> grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is
>>> the spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was
>>> Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala
>>> Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived
>>> in Hawaii  possibly  1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe
>>> is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is
>>> buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there
>>> are alot  of great researchers in this part of California  and hoping
>>> someone may recognize this family.  The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a
>>> Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27.  Thanks, Herb
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread 'herb' via Azores Genealogy
Thanks Debbie

yes I am familiar with this family using the name Vardasco. According to the 
1930 California census Manuel Roballo and his wife Andrietta not Henriquetta 
were living in San Leandro with their children including Joseph. Manuel’s 
father Francisco or maybe it was Jose Francisco had come over to Hawaii from 
one of the Azores Islands but no one can determibe which one. Maybe he used 
Vardasco  instead of Roballo when he came over?

Herb 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> 
> Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com
> 
> Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.
> 
> Post:
> Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)
> 
> That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother
> Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not finding 
> Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.  
> 
> His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala, 
> Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca. 
> 
> Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.  
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:
>> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no 
>> Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a son, 
>> Manuel. :(
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg 
>>> grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is 
>>> the spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was 
>>> Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala 
>>> Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived 
>>> in Hawaii  possibly  1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe 
>>> is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is 
>>> buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there 
>>> are alot  of great researchers in this part of California  and hoping 
>>> someone may recognize this family.  The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a 
>>> Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27.  Thanks, Herb
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-07 Thread Cheri Mello
Report (and edit) for Debbie Mendonca, jessdebmendonca at gmail dot com

Edit: There's a tree on Ancestry.com.

Post:
Manuel Vardasco Robello (1864-1955)

That is from a family tree.  They named their son Joseph after his brother.
   Manuel’s dad was Jose.  Wife was Henrieta Florida de Silva.  I’m not
finding Manuel’s grave on Find a Grave.

His son used Joseph Robello Vardasco on his grave. He was born in Pahala,
Hawaii around 1901 or 1903.   Buried in Hayward, Ca.

Cheri, you might look for the last name Vardasco for the father.

Debbie


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:57 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no
> Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a
> son, Manuel. :(
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg
>> grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is
>> the spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was
>> Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala
>> Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived
>> in Hawaii  possibly  1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe
>> is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is
>> buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there
>> are alot  of great researchers in this part of California  and hoping
>> someone may recognize this family.  The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a
>> Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27.  Thanks, Herb
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-05 Thread Cheri Mello
I checked both the Bob De Mello and the Edgar Knowlton book. There is no
Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello or Rebello immigrating to HI with a
son, Manuel. :(
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg
> grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is
> the spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was
> Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala
> Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived
> in Hawaii  possibly  1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe
> is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is
> buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there
> are alot  of great researchers in this part of California  and hoping
> someone may recognize this family.  The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a
> Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27.  Thanks, Herb
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for island and freguesia

2019-05-05 Thread 'Herb' via Azores Genealogy
I am trying to help someone locate the island and freguesia  their gg 
grandfather was from in the Azores.  His name was Manuel Robello, that is 
the spelling  for past 100+ years, not Rebelo.  His wife's surname was 
Henrietta da Silva, may have been Enriquetta.  Manuel  immigrated to Pahala 
Hawaii. with his father Francisco or Francisco Jose Robello.  They arrived 
in Hawaii  possibly  1865-1873. Manuel moved to San Leandro which believe 
is is Alameda County and died there around 1950-1955, age about 90, and is 
buried possibly in Hayward CA. He had a brother named Joseph. I know there 
are alot  of great researchers in this part of California  and hoping 
someone may recognize this family.  The 1900 census in Hawaii shows a 
Henrietta aged 16 married to a Emanuel Robelo age 27.  Thanks, Herb

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