[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-10-02 Thread Philippe GARNIER


Dear Doreen,

That I can write today (untill new sources ad informations)

 

A – Wife of Rui Dias Evangelho :

Maria Rodrigues is a mistake of the book Nobiliairio da Ilha Terceira (they 
are a lot of mistake in this book). Catarina Gonçalves is in the testamento 
of Catarina Evangelho (Rute Dias Gregório, Terra e fortuna nos primordios 
da ilha Terceira 1450-1550, tome II , p. 686-688). This book is on line : 
https://repositorio.uac.pt/handle/10400.3/260

 

B – Mécia de Anes de Andrade : Her son, Gaspar Gonçalves Machado « da 
Ribeira Seca », is the first child born in the Terceira Island  : “Gonçalo 
Annes devia de ser de pouco tempo casado, porque se diz que Mecia Annes 
vieira pejada com Gaspar Gonçalves, seu primogenito” (Anaes a Ilha Terceira 
- AIT, Vol I, p. 39)

 

C – Wife o Pedro de Barcelos. Her complete name is “Inês Gonçalves Machado 
da Ribeira Seca”, as her brother Gaspar Machado da Ribeira Seca : “Em 
memoria e honra de seu pai, que viveu naquelle sitio, mandou que os 
administradores da capella se chamassem - da Ribeira Sécca” (AIT, Vol. I, 
p. 43)

 

D – Marcos de Barcelos : they are a few of Marcos de Barcelos :

- Marcos de Barcelos Machado married with Branca Gomes, parents 
of Catarina Evangelho de Lima married on 1587, 22 januray in Praia (see 
Paria, casamentos 1585-1592, ph .10)? This Marcos is maior son of Diogo de 
Barcelos Machado e de Catarina Evangelho  (Rute Dias Gregorio; p. 665-666, 
testamento de Diogo de Barcelos)

- Marcos de Barcelos married with Maria Lopes filha de Afonso 
Lopes e de Maria (or Catarina) Rodrigues (Frei Diogo da Chagas, Espelh 
Cristalino, p. 403-404). They are not the Marcos parents. A son of Marcos 
and Maria, Baltazar Machado de Barcelos married in Praia (26-09-1580) with 
Joana Godinho Ledesma (sam source). Maria de Barcelos de Ledesma, daughter 
of Baltazar e Joana, married with her  “primo irmao” Diogo de Barcelos 
Evangelho (same source). Then, Marcos de Barcelos married with Maria Lopes, 
woul be the son of Manoel de Barcelos and Beatriz Evangelho, and irmão de 
Manoel de Barcelos Evangelho married with Leonor Teixeira, theses parents 
of Diogo married with Maria de Barcelos Ledesma. 

 

Manoel de Barcelos and Beatriz Evangelho :

1 –Manoel de Barcelos Evangelho and Leonor Teixeira 

1.1 – Diogo de Barcelos Evangelho ad Maria de Barcelos Ledesma

2 – Marcos de Barcelos and Maria Lopes :

2.1 – Baltazar Machado de Barcelos and Joana Godinho Ledesma :

2.1.1 – Maria de Barcelos Ledesma and Diogo de 
Barcelos Evangelho

In this book (Espelho Cristalino), I didn’t find mistakes (until today). 
Then, we can have confidence.

 

Abraço

 

Philippe Garnier

Paris - France

Le samedi 26 septembre 2015 22:12:15 UTC+2, linda a écrit :
>
>
> right side page, top record:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679/TER-PV-SANTACRUZ-C-1633-1679_item1/P48.html
>
>
> Hi Group,
>
> This is a clearly written, easy to read record, but there are three areas 
> I would like help with, please.
>
> The bride's parents each have a word following their names which I can't 
> make out.  I see the bride's information as:
>
> "...Maria da Fonseca, filha de An.to da Fonseca [unknown word/name] 
> defunto, e de sua molher Catarina [unknown word/name]..."
>
> Can anyone suggest what these two words/names are? (as a side question: if 
> these words are nouns or adjectives rather than names, why didn't the 
> groom's parents have similar?)
>
> The third area I'd appreciate clarification is with the note 
> about a dispensation of consanguinity.  I read that the consanguinity is of 
> the 4th degree, but my grasp of the language isn't sufficient to understand 
> whether the phrase preceding the list of witnesses contains any information 
> of interest or if it is simply standard wording for such cases.
>
> Thanks very much for help and suggestions,
>
> Linda
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-10-01 Thread linda
Hi Joao,

Antonio da Fonseca Saraiva and Catarina Escoto are my ancestors (8xGGPs) 
through their daughter Maria da Fonseca.  I have her marriage record, and  
I''ve also found a marriage record for their son, Sebastiao.  That is all I 
have for that line so far.  I think the links are all in this thread, but 
if-- or when-- I find more I'd be very happy to share those links too, if 
you don't have them already.  

very best wishes from California,

Linda
 

On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 7:37:41 AM UTC-7, Joao S. Lopes wrote:
>
> I'm descendant of Antonio da Fonseca Saraiva and Catarina Escoto.
>
> Joao S.Lopes
> Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 
>
>
>
> Em Quarta-feira, 30 de Setembro de 2015 6:19, 'Philippe GARNIER' via 
> Azores Genealogy  escreveu:
>
>
> Dear Doreen
>
> I am going out for a few day. After back home, I'll answer you. OK?
>
> Best regards.
>
> Philippe
>  
> Philippe Garnier Paris - France 
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> Nogueira (Sa, Gama, Brandão) - Figueira Vieira Machado
>
>
>
> Em Terça-feira, 29 de Setembro de 2015 21:07, linda  > escreveu:
>
>
> Hi Doreen,
>
> I am out of town and away from my files for the next few days, but if you 
> like I can forward what I have on Marcos de Bracellos & Branca Gomes.  If I 
> recall correctly, I gathered their names from the marriage record of their 
> child, my direct ancestor. That was as far as I had got with that line. 
> Before Philippe shared his research, I thought that might be as far as I 
> would be able to go.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-09-30 Thread 'Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy
Dear Doreen
I am going out for a few day. After back home, I'll answer you. OK?
Best regards.
Philippe Philippe Garnier Paris - France « Aos nossos a honra de nascer entre 
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 Em Terça-feira, 29 de Setembro de 2015 21:07, linda 
 escreveu:
   

 Hi Doreen,

I am out of town and away from my files for the next few days, but if you like 
I can forward what I have on Marcos de Bracellos & Branca Gomes.  If I recall 
correctly, I gathered their names from the marriage record of their child, my 
direct ancestor. That was as far as I had got with that line. Before Philippe 
shared his research, I thought that might be as far as I would be able to go.

Linda

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-09-30 Thread 'Joao S. Lopes' via Azores Genealogy
I'm descendant of Antonio da Fonseca Saraiva and Catarina Escoto.
Joao S.LopesRio de Janeiro, Brazil  


 Em Quarta-feira, 30 de Setembro de 2015 6:19, 'Philippe GARNIER' via 
Azores Genealogy  escreveu:
   

 Dear Doreen
I am going out for a few day. After back home, I'll answer you. OK?
Best regards.
Philippe Philippe Garnier Paris - France « Aos nossos a honra de nascer entre 
nos, Aos outros a pena de não ser um dos nossos. » Familias pesquizadas : 
Ferreira Armond - Côrtes - Figueiredo - Villas Boas - Teixeira - Domingues de 
Araujo - Antunes de Siqueira - Rodrigues da Costa - Diniz - Conde Werneck (Dos 
Santos, Almeida Ramos, Pinheiro de Souza)- Nogueira (Sa, Gama, Brandão) - 
Figueira Vieira Machado 


 Em Terça-feira, 29 de Setembro de 2015 21:07, linda 
 escreveu:
   

 Hi Doreen,

I am out of town and away from my files for the next few days, but if you like 
I can forward what I have on Marcos de Bracellos & Branca Gomes.  If I recall 
correctly, I gathered their names from the marriage record of their child, my 
direct ancestor. That was as far as I had got with that line. Before Philippe 
shared his research, I thought that might be as far as I would be able to go.

Linda

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-09-29 Thread Doreen Caetano
Good Morning Philippe, I have been looking at your correspondence with
Linda and realized that I have some of those lines but my information is a
little different. It appears that you have done a lot of research on this
line and the information you provided is very interesting. I'm concerned
about where I have different information then you:
A)  I have the wife of #42 Rui Dias Evangelho as Maria Rodrigues not
Catarina Evangelho. I also have Rui Dias Evangelho being born in Beira but
you indicate that he was born Sao Sebastiao, Terceira. Rui Dias Evangelho
married to Maria Rodrigues is my 12th Great Grandparents three times
through my Coelho Berbereia de Ormonde lines of Altares and Raminho, my
13th GG through the same lines and my 14th GG through my Caetano do Canto
lines of Ribeirinha. Since they in my tree 5 times I would like to make
sure I have the correct information. Is this a another spouse for Rui Dias
Evangelho? Can you help me sort this out?
B) I think I'm reading the information wrong on the following- you have
Mecia Anes de Andrade being born in Sao Sebastiao, Terceira but then she
is the first woman to give birth in the Azores (on a boat off the island of
Terceira)? or is she the child that was born off the island of Terceira?
C) You have #41 Ines Goncalves Machado, born in Santa Cruz, Terceira as the
wife of Pedro de Barcelos. I have Ines G. Seca. Could this person be the
same person or is it another spouse for Pedro de Barcelos? and
D) You have #10 Marcos de Barcelos Machado (born in Santa Cruz, Terceira)
married to Branca Gomes de Lima. I have Marcos de Barcelos Machado (died
3/3/1579 in Santa Cruz, Terceira) married to Maria Lopes Homem.  They are
my 10th GG three times and my 11th GG once through the Berbereia lines. Did
Marcos de Barcelos Machado have another wife?
I appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks for your time. Doreen

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Philippe GARNIER <
mauxcroisesdesa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Linda,
>
> Alla I have about ascendants of Francisco Pacheco Evangelho.
> Abraço
>
> Philippe Garnier
>
> Paris - France
>
> *Ahnentafel Chart for Francisco PACHECO EVANGELHO*
>
>
>
> *First Generation*
>
>
>
>   1.* Francisco PACHECO EVANGELHO*1 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores).
>
> Francisco married3 *Maria DA FONSECA ESCOTO*2, daughter of Antônio DA
> FONSECA SARAIVA and Catarina ESCOTO BOTELHO, on 12 Jun 1645 in Santa Cruz
> da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Maria was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
> *Second Generation*
>
>
>
>   2.* Antônio PACHECO DE LIMA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores). He married4 Susana da Rosa DE SOUSA on 13 Nov 1617 in
> Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
>   3.* Susana da Rosa DE SOUSA* was christened5 on 5 Apr 1585 in Santa
> Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
> *Third Generation*
>
>
>
>   4.* Domingos FERNANDES DE AVILA*6 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores). He died on 10 Sep 1610 in Praia - Terceira (Açores).
> Domingos married7 Catarina EVANGELHO DE LIMA on 22 Jan 1587 in Santa Cruz
> da Praia - Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
>   5.* Catarina EVANGELHO DE LIMA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
>   6.* Bras HENRIQUES* was born in Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra -
> Terceira (Açores). He married Phelipa NUNES.
>
>
>
>   7.* Phelipa NUNES* was born in Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra -
> Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
> *Fourth Generation*
>
>
>
>   8.* Antônio FERNANDES* "O Pé de Açucar"8 was born in Santa Cruz da
> Praia - Terceira (Açores). He married9 Brazia NUNES DE ANTONA on 15 Apr
> 1561 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
> Cristão Novo e Mercador
>
>
>
>   9.* Brazia NUNES DE ANTONA*10 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores). She died on 7 Mar 1612 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira
> (Açores).
>
>
>
> 10.* Marcos DE BARCELOS MACHADO* "O Bola de Ferro"11,12,13 was born
> in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). He married Branca GOMES DE LIMA.
>
>
>
> O filho mais velho ( Rute Dias Gregorio; p. 665-666, testamento de Diogo
> de Barcelos)
>
> Vereador e juiz ordinario da Câmara da Praia.
>
>
>
>
>
> 11.* Branca GOMES DE LIMA*14 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
> *Fifth Generation*
>
>
>
> 16.* João GONSALVES* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira
> (Açores). He married NR.
>
>
>
> 17.* NR*.
>
>
>
> 18.* Francisco GONSALVES* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira
> (Açores). He married Maria ALVERES DE ANTONA.
>
>
>
> 19.* Maria ALVERES DE ANTONA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia -
> Terceira (Açores).
>
>
>
> 20.* Diogo DE BARCELOS MACHADO*15,16,17 died on 10 May 1534 in Praia
> - Terceira (Açores). He married Catarina EVANGELHO.
>
>
>
> morador no Juncal, Praia. F.C.A. (17-11-1533)
>
>
>
> 21.* Catarina EVANGELHO*18,19 was born in São Sebastião - Terceira
> (Açores). She 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-09-29 Thread linda
Hi Doreen,

I am out of town and away from my files for the next few days, but if you like 
I can forward what I have on Marcos de Bracellos & Branca Gomes.  If I recall 
correctly, I gathered their names from the marriage record of their child, my 
direct ancestor. That was as far as I had got with that line. Before Philippe 
shared his research, I thought that might be as far as I would be able to go.

Linda

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-09-29 Thread linda
Philippe,

I'm simply stunned-- "gob-smacked" as the British say. Thank you so very much 
for your generosity and kindness in sharing your research.  What a treasure 
trove of information!

Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca are my 7 or 8 x GGParents. Might 
we be distant cousins? 

Abraço e um beijinho,

Linda

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-09-29 Thread linda
Hi Doreen,

I am out of town and away from my files for the next few days, but if you like 
I can forward what I have on Marcos de Bracellos & Branca Gomes.  If I recall 
correctly, I gathered their names from the marriage record of their child, my 
direct ancestor. That was as far as I had got with that line. Before Philippe 
shared his research, I thought that might be as far as I would be able to go.

Linda

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Francisco Pacheco Evangelho & Maria da Fonseca 1645 Santa Cruz (V. da Praia), Terceira

2015-09-28 Thread Philippe GARNIER
Hi Linda,

Alla I have about ascendants of Francisco Pacheco Evangelho.
Abraço

Philippe Garnier

Paris - France

*Ahnentafel Chart for Francisco PACHECO EVANGELHO*

 

*First Generation*

 

  1.* Francisco PACHECO EVANGELHO*1 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - 
Terceira (Açores).

Francisco married3 *Maria DA FONSECA ESCOTO*2, daughter of Antônio DA 
FONSECA SARAIVA and Catarina ESCOTO BOTELHO, on 12 Jun 1645 in Santa Cruz 
da Praia - Terceira (Açores). Maria was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - 
Terceira (Açores).

 

*Second Generation*

 

  2.* Antônio PACHECO DE LIMA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - 
Terceira (Açores). He married4 Susana da Rosa DE SOUSA on 13 Nov 1617 in 
Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - Terceira (Açores).

 

  3.* Susana da Rosa DE SOUSA* was christened5 on 5 Apr 1585 in Santa 
Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores).

 

*Third Generation*

 

  4.* Domingos FERNANDES DE AVILA*6 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - 
Terceira (Açores). He died on 10 Sep 1610 in Praia - Terceira (Açores). 
Domingos married7 Catarina EVANGELHO DE LIMA on 22 Jan 1587 in Santa Cruz 
da Praia - Terceira (Açores).

 

  5.* Catarina EVANGELHO DE LIMA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - 
Terceira (Açores).

 

  6.* Bras HENRIQUES* was born in Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - 
Terceira (Açores). He married Phelipa NUNES.

 

  7.* Phelipa NUNES* was born in Santa Sé do Salvador de Angra - 
Terceira (Açores).

 

*Fourth Generation*

 

  8.* Antônio FERNANDES* "O Pé de Açucar"8 was born in Santa Cruz da 
Praia - Terceira (Açores). He married9 Brazia NUNES DE ANTONA on 15 Apr 
1561 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores).

 

Cristão Novo e Mercador

 

  9.* Brazia NUNES DE ANTONA*10 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - 
Terceira (Açores). She died on 7 Mar 1612 in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira 
(Açores).

 

10.* Marcos DE BARCELOS MACHADO* "O Bola de Ferro"11,12,13 was born in 
Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira (Açores). He married Branca GOMES DE LIMA.

 

O filho mais velho ( Rute Dias Gregorio; p. 665-666, testamento de Diogo de 
Barcelos)

Vereador e juiz ordinario da Câmara da Praia.

 

 

11.* Branca GOMES DE LIMA*14 was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira 
(Açores).

 

*Fifth Generation*

 

16.* João GONSALVES* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira 
(Açores). He married NR.

 

17.* NR*.

 

18.* Francisco GONSALVES* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - Terceira 
(Açores). He married Maria ALVERES DE ANTONA.

 

19.* Maria ALVERES DE ANTONA* was born in Santa Cruz da Praia - 
Terceira (Açores).

 

20.* Diogo DE BARCELOS MACHADO*15,16,17 died on 10 May 1534 in Praia - 
Terceira (Açores). He married Catarina EVANGELHO.

 

morador no Juncal, Praia. F.C.A. (17-11-1533)

 

21.* Catarina EVANGELHO*18,19 was born in São Sebastião - Terceira 
(Açores). She died in 1539.

 

*Sixth Generation*

 

40.* Pedro DE BARCELOS*20,21,22 died23 on 9 Apr 1507 in Terceira 
(Açores). He married Inès GONSALVES MACHADO.

Navegador e descobridor, um dos primeiros povoadores de ilha Terceira, 
aonde chegou nos primeiros anos da 

2a metade do séc. XV

 

http://www.apol.net/dightonrock/pilgrim_chapter_11.htm

"BARCELOS FAMILY: Besides the Corte Reais there were several other families 
from the Island of Terceira 

who were interested in the exploration and colonization of Newfoundland. 
One of the most important was the 

Barcelos family which worked on colonization for three generations.

Pedro Pinheiro, descendant of one of the most noble families of Barcelos 
(Town — North of Oporto) migrated 

to Terceira in the last quarter of the 15th Century. (Because of his name 
Pinheiro (Pine) his family coat of arms 

contained a pine tree and golden pinecones.) In Terceira he was nicknamed 
Barcelos which later became part of 

his name.

Under a charter granted by King John II (1492), Pedro Pinheiro de Barcelos 
made his first voyage to 

Newfoundland with his partner, João Fernandes Labrador (who gave the name 
to Labrador). When Pedro 

Pinheiro died in 1507, his son Diogo Pinheiro de Barcelos obtained from 
King Manuel I a charter (1508) 

allowing him to continue with the colonization begun by his father. Dr. 
Baptista de Lima of the Historical 

Institute of the Island of Terceira, revealed at the first International 
Congress of the History of the Discoveries 

(1960) important findings concerning Diogo’s colonization of the Barcelona 
Island (Sable Island) — named 

after Barcelos family.

Diogo had a brother, Afonso Pinheiro de Barcelos, who, according to the 
charter granted to them by the King, 

had equal rights (profits) and duties (expenses) in the colonization of the 
lands of Bacalhaus. However, because 

Afonso was not willing to participate in any of the expeditions, Diogo 
asked for a legal hearing on the matter so 

that he could obtain sole rights to the lands he had colonized. Five 
witnesses testified at that hearing (October 7,