Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi
Hi JR, That's correct, Antonio de Medeiros Ponte is my 8th ggf , married to Ana de Pimentel, daughter of Antonio de Simas and Manuel Senra Nov 21 1737 in S. Jorge, Nordeste. I have not been unable to find his Parents' marriage, either. Thanks for suggesting Nordestinho I didn't think to look there. Margaret On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote: Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.**comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.**comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists
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Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros were having children in 1698. Nordestinho marriages start in 1700. I hardly doubt you will find a marriage in 1698 or prior when the records only start in 1700 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 2:02 Hi JR, That's correct, Antonio de Medeiros Ponte is my 8th ggf , married to Ana de Pimentel, daughter of Antonio de Simas and Manuel Senra Nov 21 1737 in S. Jorge, Nordeste. I have not been unable to find his Parents' marriage, either. Thanks for suggesting Nordestinho I didn't think to look there. Margaret On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote:Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter
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Marcio, of course you are right, generally speaking. However, when one is stumped, you have to look at other avenues. I often look at the baptisms of the siblings of uncles and aunts to try and find clues to go back further. In this case, you have as siblings of Antonio: Barbara de Medeiros cc Pedro da Ponte Barbosa Manuel Costa Pimentel cc Maria Soares Maria de Medeiros cc Agostinho Borges Antonia de Medeiros cc Manuel de Simas Pimentel I just found the following: Ma (Maria) bap Dec 8-1690 Nordestinho filha de Andre Fur...illegible (Furtado?) and Barbara Teixeira Pad- Fco Pacheco filho de Andre Pacheco de Vila de Nordeste e Cna de Medeiros filha de Estevao Affonso. So it may be that Antonio de Medeiros is related to Cna de Medeiros and is therefore the child of the same Estevao Afonso. Maybe not. Anyway, the point is it worth investigating and that is how I try to go around dead ends. You may never find the actual marriage. But it is possible to piece things together indirectly. JR On Friday, November 9, 2012 2:12:11 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote: Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros were having children in 1698. Nordestinho marriages start in 1700. I hardly doubt you will find a marriage in 1698 or prior when the records only start in 1700 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *sex, 9/11/12, Margaret Vicente margare...@gmail.com javascript: * escreveu: De: Margaret Vicente margare...@gmail.com javascript: Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 2:02 Hi JR, That's correct, Antonio de Medeiros Ponte is my 8th ggf , married to Ana de Pimentel, daughter of Antonio de Simas and Manuel Senra Nov 21 1737 in S. Jorge, Nordeste. I have not been unable to find his Parents' marriage, either. Thanks for suggesting Nordestinho I didn't think to look there. Margaret On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM, JR jro...@rogers.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jro...@rogers.com wrote: You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote: Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.**comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.**comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Margaret
Saw John's 2nd message, thanks for the heads up. Margaret Vicente On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.comwrote: Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros were having children in 1698. Nordestinho marriages start in 1700. I hardly doubt you will find a marriage in 1698 or prior when the records only start in 1700 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *sex, 9/11/12, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com*escreveu: De: Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 2:02 Hi JR, That's correct, Antonio de Medeiros Ponte is my 8th ggf , married to Ana de Pimentel, daughter of Antonio de Simas and Manuel Senra Nov 21 1737 in S. Jorge, Nordeste. I have not been unable to find his Parents' marriage, either. Thanks for suggesting Nordestinho I didn't think to look there. Margaret On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM, JR jro...@rogers.comhttp://mc/compose?to=jro...@rogers.com wrote: You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote: Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.**comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.**comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter
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Of course John. There are other ways to try find answers. :) Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sáb, 10/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Margaret Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sábado, 10 de Novembro de 2012, 2:05 Marcio, of course you are right, generally speaking. However, when one is stumped, you have to look at other avenues. I often look at the baptisms of the siblings of uncles and aunts to try and find clues to go back further. In this case, you have as siblings of Antonio: Barbara de Medeiros cc Pedro da Ponte BarbosaManuel Costa Pimentel cc Maria SoaresMaria de Medeiros cc Agostinho BorgesAntonia de Medeiros cc Manuel de Simas Pimentel I just found the following: Ma (Maria) bap Dec 8-1690 Nordestinhofilha de Andre Fur...illegible (Furtado?) and Barbara Teixeira Pad- Fco Pacheco filho de Andre Pacheco de Vila de Nordeste e Cna de Medeiros filha de Estevao Affonso. So it may be that Antonio de Medeiros is related to Cna de Medeiros and is therefore the child of the same Estevao Afonso. Maybe not. Anyway, the point is it worth investigating and that is how I try to go around dead ends. You may never find the actual marriage. But it is possible to piece things together indirectly. JR On Friday, November 9, 2012 2:12:11 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote:Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros were having children in 1698. Nordestinho marriages start in 1700. I hardly doubt you will find a marriage in 1698 or prior when the records only start in 1700 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, Margaret Vicente margare...@gmail.com escreveu: De: Margaret Vicente margare...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 2:02 Hi JR, That's correct, Antonio de Medeiros Ponte is my 8th ggf , married to Ana de Pimentel, daughter of Antonio de Simas and Manuel Senra Nov 21 1737 in S. Jorge, Nordeste. I have not been unable to find his Parents' marriage, either. Thanks for suggesting Nordestinho I didn't think to look there. Margaret On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM, JR jro...@rogers.com wrote: You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote:Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel
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Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:52:55 -0700 From: marciobo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line To: azo...@googlegroups.com CC: jude...@msn.com; ema...@resendes.ws Sending below Simao da Costa and Maria Franco children. Can you give me more detailed information on your Isabel and Amaro, as I only have their birthdates. Descendants of SIMÃO DA COSTA Generation No. 1 1. SIMÃO2 DA COSTA (ANTÓNIO1 FERREIRA) was born in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married MARIA FRANCO 10 Apr 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel, daughter of FAUSTINO FRANCO and MARIA DA COSTA PONTE. She was born 10 May 1660 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Children
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You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote: Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com javascript: wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com javascript: escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com javascript: Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.comjavascript: wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com javascript: escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com javascript: Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws javascript: To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one
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Yes. That is the same Antonio de Medeiros married in 1737 I didnt bother with Nordestinho cause they were having children already in 1698. While marriages in Nordestinho only start in 1700.Since Maria de Medeiros was born in Faial da Terra, that would be my first bet for where they married, but marriages only start in 1696. Since they were having children in 1698 maybe they could have married where the records are lost (bef. 1696) or as you mention in the time period that Nordeste records seem to be missing. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 0:52 You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote:Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco
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I recall retrieving some baptisms pre-1700 from Nordestinho. I just looked it up, and it starts circa 1687. JR On Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:27:54 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote: Yes. That is the same Antonio de Medeiros married in 1737 I didnt bother with Nordestinho cause they were having children already in 1698. While marriages in Nordestinho only start in 1700. Since Maria de Medeiros was born in Faial da Terra, that would be my first bet for where they married, but marriages only start in 1696. Since they were having children in 1698 maybe they could have married where the records are lost (bef. 1696) or as you mention in the time period that Nordeste records seem to be missing. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com javascript:* escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com javascript: Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 0:52 You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote: Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros
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Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros had children in Matriz Nordeste, and most likely married in Faial bef. 1698.The Nordestinho records from 1687 and forward wouldn't add any new info, except some more children. But to find Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros parents I would still need their marriage record.At same time this family doesn't seem to have ties to Nordestinho. Manuel was born in Nordeste and Maria in Faial, as some of their children baptism records mention Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi JRoias Para: azores@googlegroups.com Cc: jro...@rogers.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 1:56 I recall retrieving some baptisms pre-1700 from Nordestinho. I just looked it up, and it starts circa 1687. JR On Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:27:54 PM UTC-5, Azoreanno wrote:Yes. That is the same Antonio de Medeiros married in 1737 I didnt bother with Nordestinho cause they were having children already in 1698. While marriages in Nordestinho only start in 1700.Since Maria de Medeiros was born in Faial da Terra, that would be my first bet for where they married, but marriages only start in 1696. Since they were having children in 1698 maybe they could have married where the records are lost (bef. 1696) or as you mention in the time period that Nordeste records seem to be missing. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em sex, 9/11/12, JR jro...@rogers.com escreveu: De: JR jro...@rogers.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Novembro de 2012, 0:52 You say that Antonio is the son of Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros? Would this be Antonio de Medeiros and Ana de Pimentel, married Nov 21-1737? It seems the marriage of Manuel Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros is not in my database. Did you try Nordestinho? I found it quite difficult in the early part and tried slogging through the baptisms. There is no question some marriages are missing in Nordeste in the 1646-1650 era and later in early 1700's, such as the period of 1698-1710. The records there are quite difficult, even in the baptisms. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:11:39 AM UTC-5, Mara wrote:Marcio and Judi, I'm also a direct descendent of this couple through their son Antonio. Margaret On 11/8/12, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marciobo...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azo...@googlegroups.com azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: ema...@resendes.ws To: azo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote
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Marcio, This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him. I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line. I can get you more on him if needed. Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:52:55 -0700 From: marciobo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line To: azo...@googlegroups.com CC: jude...@msn.com; ema...@resendes.ws Sending below Simao da Costa and Maria Franco children. Can you give me more detailed information on your Isabel and Amaro, as I only have their birthdates. Descendants of SIMÃO DA COSTA Generation No. 1 1. SIMÃO2 DA COSTA (ANTÓNIO1 FERREIRA) was born in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married MARIA FRANCO 10 Apr 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel, daughter of FAUSTINO FRANCO and MARIA DA COSTA PONTE. She was born 10 May 1660 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Children of SIMÃO DA COSTA and MARIA FRANCO are: 2 i.Isabel3, born 02 Jul 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 3ii.Maria, born 02 Nov 1681 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 4 iii.Simão, born 01 Nov 1684 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 5 iv.Amaro, born 18 Jan 1689 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 6v.JOSÉ DA COSTA NETO, born 26 Mar 1692 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married ANTÓNIA DE AMARAL 27 May 1719 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel; born 16 Jun 1696 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 7 vi.Teresa, born 11 Oct 1698 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, EResendes ema...@resendes.ws escreveu: De: EResendes ema...@resendes.ws Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para
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I found a few children for Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros, including your Isabel (b. March 2 1713 in Matriz Nordeste). Your Maria de Medeiros was native of Faial da Terra, Povoação. I wasnt able to find Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros marriage (I looked before 1707, as I have first child Maria b. Dec. 29 1706, in the parishes of Faial da Terra, Matriz Nordeste, Achada and Achadinha but nothing) Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:52:55 -0700 From: marciobo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line To: azo...@googlegroups.com CC: jude...@msn.com; ema...@resendes.ws Sending below Simao da Costa and Maria Franco children. Can you give me more detailed information on your Isabel and Amaro, as I only have their birthdates. Descendants of SIMÃO DA COSTA Generation No. 1 1. SIMÃO2 DA COSTA (ANTÓNIO1 FERREIRA) was born in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married MARIA FRANCO 10 Apr 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel, daughter of FAUSTINO FRANCO and MARIA DA COSTA PONTE. She was born 10 May 1660 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Children of SIMÃO DA COSTA and MARIA FRANCO are: 2 i. Isabel3, born 02 Jul 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 3 ii. Maria, born 02 Nov 1681 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 4 iii. Simão, born 01 Nov 1684 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 5 iv
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I found a few more records on your Manuel da Costa Ponte and Maria de Medeiros. Their first child was a Manuel, b. Sep. 7 1698.He also went by Manuel da Costa Pedres, as is shows in the birth of his child Antonio, Sep. 15 1704. The godmother of this Antonio was Isabel da Costa, daughter of Manuel da Costa Pedres, deceased. I think Isabel da Costa and your Manuel da Costa Ponte AKA Pedres were siblings. Both children of a Manuel da Costa Pedres. I never heard of the surname Pedres or even as a nick name, which it seems in this case to me. Maybe someone on the list could have something on this surname/nickname Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qua, 7/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Judi Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 7 de Novembro de 2012, 13:19 Marcio,This Manoel da Costa Ponte married Maria de Medeiros is the grandfather of Josepha Medeiros Pacheco in my chart. That is all I have on him.I also have a Manoel da Costa Ponte son of Jose da Costa And BeatrIz Goncalves, born 23 Apr 1645 in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Catarina da Costa 1690 in Santo Antonio alem Capelas, died in Capelas 29 Jan 1741. He is in my paternal line.I can get you more on him if needed.Judi Sent from my iPad On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:14 AM, Marcio Borba marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com wrote: I see in your tree that you have a Costa Ponte line. Were you able to find more on them? Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em ter, 6/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att: Emanuel Resendes Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2012, 20:33 It helps if I send the attachment. Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:52:55 -0700 From: marciobo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line To: azo...@googlegroups.com CC: jude...@msn.com; ema...@resendes.ws Sending below Simao da Costa and Maria Franco children. Can you give me more detailed information on your Isabel and Amaro, as I only have their birthdates. Descendants of SIMÃO DA COSTA Generation No. 1 1. SIMÃO2 DA COSTA (ANTÓNIO1 FERREIRA) was born in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married MARIA FRANCO 10 Apr 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel, daughter of FAUSTINO FRANCO and MARIA DA COSTA PONTE. She was born 10 May 1660 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Children of SIMÃO DA COSTA and MARIA FRANCO are: 2 i. Isabel3, born 02 Jul 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 3 ii. Maria, born 02
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Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: *Isabel da Costa *was born 02 Jul 1679, married *Manoel Rodrigues Afonso *on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter *Maria Franco *born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married *Felipe Araujo *son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. *Francisco Franco *son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married *Josepha Medeiros Pacheco *daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. *Manoel Franco Pacheco *was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to *Maria Francesca Pimental *daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. *Manoel Franco Pacheco *married second time to *Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera *daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi -- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:52:55 -0700 From: marciobo...@yahoo.com javascript: Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: CC: jude...@msn.com javascript:; ema...@resendes.ws javascript: Sending below Simao da Costa and Maria Franco children. Can you give me more detailed information on your Isabel and Amaro, as I only have their birthdates. *Descendants of SIMÃO DA COSTA* *Generation No. 1* *1.* *SIMÃO2 DA COSTA* (ANTÓNIO1 FERREIRA) was born in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married *MARIA FRANCO* 10 Apr 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel, daughter of FAUSTINO FRANCO and MARIA DA COSTA PONTE. She was born 10 May 1660 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Children of SIMÃO DA COSTA and MARIA FRANCO are: 2 i.Isabel3, born 02 Jul 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 3ii.Maria, born 02 Nov 1681 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 4 iii.Simão, born 01 Nov 1684 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 5 iv.Amaro, born 18 Jan 1689 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 6v.JOSÉ DA COSTA NETO, born 26 Mar 1692 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married ANTÓNIA DE AMARAL 27 May 1719 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel; born 16 Jun 1696 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 7 vi.Teresa, born 11 Oct 1698 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em *qui, 1/11/12, EResendes ema...@resendes.ws javascript:*escreveu: De: EResendes ema...@resendes.ws javascript: Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 17:43 I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. comhttp://azorean-roots.blogspot.com/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send
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I'm sorry, I thought I sent this to you as well as JR. This is Josepha's ancestor chart to Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro. I descend from his son Diogo and his brother Diogo. Am also checking on a connection to his son Duarte. The marriage of his son Joao needs to be verified. There was a mistake and I don't remember if I corrected it. Let me know how you make out. Judi Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 09:37:02 -0800 From: eman...@resendes.ws To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Judi, I also descend from Pedro Vaz Marinheiro (15th Gen Ancestor). Do you have the tree from him to Josepha Medeiros Pacheco? On Friday, November 2, 2012 9:20:29 AM UTC-4, Jude 26 wrote: Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:52:55 -0700 From: marciobo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line To: azo...@googlegroups.com CC: jude...@msn.com; ema...@resendes.ws Sending below Simao da Costa and Maria Franco children. Can you give me more detailed information on your Isabel and Amaro, as I only have their birthdates. Descendants of SIMÃO DA COSTA Generation No. 1 1. SIMÃO2 DA COSTA (ANTÓNIO1 FERREIRA) was born in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married MARIA FRANCO 10 Apr 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel, daughter of FAUSTINO FRANCO and MARIA DA COSTA PONTE. She was born 10 May 1660 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Children of SIMÃO DA COSTA and MARIA FRANCO are: 2 i.Isabel3, born 02 Jul 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 3ii.Maria, born 02 Nov 1681 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 4 iii.Simão, born 01 Nov 1684 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 5 iv.Amaro, born 18 Jan 1689 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 6v.JOSÉ DA COSTA NETO, born 26 Mar 1692 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married ANTÓNIA DE AMARAL 27 May 1719 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel; born 16 Jun 1696 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 7 vi.Teresa, born 11 Oct 1698 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel.Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, EResendes ema...@resendes.ws escreveu: De: EResendes ema...@resendes.ws Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para: azo...@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 17:43 I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line
Isabel da Costa was born 02 Jul 1679, married Manoel Rodrigues Afonso on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter Maria Franco born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married Felipe Araujo son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. Francisco Franco son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married Josepha Medeiros Pacheco daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. Manoel Franco Pacheco was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to Maria Francesca Pimental daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. Manoel Franco Pacheco married second time to Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:52:55 -0700 From: marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line To: azores@googlegroups.com CC: jude2...@msn.com; eman...@resendes.ws Sending below Simao da Costa and Maria Franco children. Can you give me more detailed information on your Isabel and Amaro, as I only have their birthdates. Descendants of SIMÃO DA COSTA Generation No. 1 1. SIMÃO2 DA COSTA (ANTÓNIO1 FERREIRA) was born in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married MARIA FRANCO 10 Apr 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel, daughter of FAUSTINO FRANCO and MARIA DA COSTA PONTE. She was born 10 May 1660 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. Children of SIMÃO DA COSTA and MARIA FRANCO are: 2 i.Isabel3, born 02 Jul 1679 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 3ii.Maria, born 02 Nov 1681 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 4 iii.Simão, born 01 Nov 1684 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 5 iv.Amaro, born 18 Jan 1689 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 6v.JOSÉ DA COSTA NETO, born 26 Mar 1692 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. He married ANTÓNIA DE AMARAL 27 May 1719 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel; born 16 Jun 1696 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel. 7 vi.Teresa, born 11 Oct 1698 in Matriz S. Jorge, Nordeste, ilha de S. Miguel.Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws escreveu: De: EResendes eman...@resendes.ws Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 17:43 I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line
Hi Judi, I also descend twice from Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro. From his daughter Violante Pires and from his son Pedro Vaz. Manoel Cesar Furtado 2012/11/2 Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com *Isabel da Costa *was born 02 Jul 1679, married *Manoel Rodrigues Afonso *on 19 Nov 1711 in Martiz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He was born in Sao Pedro, Vila Franca and died before 1741. Daughter *Maria Franco *born abt 1720 in Matriz Sao Jorge, died before 1792. She married *Felipe Araujo *son of Manoel Aguiar Jr and Maria de Araujo on 15 July 1741, he died 23 May 1774. *Francisco Franco *son of Felipe Araujo and Maria Franco was born 14 Nov 1744 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste and died before 02 Mar 1783 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. He married *Josepha Medeiros Pacheco *daughter of Francisco Pacheco and Isabel de Medeiros on 23 May 1774. Josepha was born 19 Mar 1748 in Matriz Sao Jorge, Nordeste. *Manoel Franco Pacheco *was born 24 Feb 1775 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 01 Sep 1842 in Matriz Sao Jorge. He married first time to *Maria Francesca Pimental *daughter of Francisco Furtado and Maria Pimental 06 Mar1795 in Matriz Sao Jorge. She died 22 Feb 1810. *Manoel Franco Pacheco *married second time to *Rosaria Maria Pacheco Viera *daughter of Manoel Viera and Antonia Pacheco on 28 Jun 1810 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Rosaria was born 28 Dec 1778 in Matriz Sao Jorge and died 05 Sep 1848 in Matriz Sao Jorge. Manoel Franco Pacheco was the start of the Franco Pacheco line which still exists in Pedreira, Nordeste. Josepha Medeiros Pacheco is a direct descendent of Pedro Vaz, Marinheiro, born abt. 1460 in Portugal. He is listed in Rodrigo Rodrigues and was one of the earliest settlers of Sao Miguel. All I know about him is that he was involved in ship building. He lived in Ponta Delgada across the street from the prison. Two of my grandparents descend from him. Does anyone know anything about this man? Judi -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line
I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel
Great. I have 6 children for Simao da Costa and Maria Franco. One of them being your Amaro, b. in Matriz, Nordeste, Jan. 18. 1689 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws escreveu: De: EResendes eman...@resendes.ws Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 17:43 I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote:I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel Judi
Isabel was the oldest. She was born July 2 1679, in Matriz, Nordeste. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com escreveu: De: Judi Phillips jude2...@msn.com Assunto: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel Para: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 19:05 I am a descendent of Isabel da Costa, daughter of Simao da Costa and Maria Franco, born in Nordeste. Judi Phillips Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:43:20 -0700 From: marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line att. Emanuel To: azores@googlegroups.com Great. I have 6 children for Simao da Costa and Maria Franco. One of them being your Amaro, b. in Matriz, Nordeste, Jan. 18. 1689 Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com --- Em qui, 1/11/12, EResendes eman...@resendes.ws escreveu: De: EResendes eman...@resendes.ws Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: S. Miguel line Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta-feira, 1 de Novembro de 2012, 17:43 I've already found a match with my direct ancestors. Simao da Costa Maria Franca (Franco) are my 12th Gen Ancestors. They had a son Named Amaro da Costa Pimentel that I branch from. On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:27:55 PM UTC-4, Azoreanno wrote: I'm attaching my S. Miguel line. Hope there are more matches in the list Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
