Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
These are all great stories of courageousness and valor. grace I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -Original Message- From: Jacki G. To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 10:11 pm Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Az
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
He was a good man!! grace -Original Message- From: Debra Wolgemuth To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 3:25 am Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) My great grandmother traveled from the Azores to California, entered through Ellis Island and took the train across the country to California. My mother recalls that my great grandfather paid for a female traveling companion to escort Lena to California, because it was not proper for a lady to travel alone. Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:11:53 -0800 I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
My great grandmother traveled from the Azores to California, entered through Ellis Island and took the train across the country to California. My mother recalls that my great grandfather paid for a female traveling companion to escort Lena to California, because it was not proper for a lady to travel alone. Debbie Wolgemuth Researching Azoreans: Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown) Immigrated to: Merced, CA From: ja...@cdmmarketing.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:11:53 -0800 I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
I don't know if most of them came via the east coast or not, but my great grandfather, Francisco Medeiros entered the US at Boston and then traveled by train to Calif. in about 1904. He came from Cedros, Faial. He established a ranch in the Briones Valley near Martinez, Ca with his father before sending for my great grandmother, my grandfather (who was 7) and his brother and sister in 1906. I found the ships records for them and it says that my g-grandmother was coming here to join her husband in Martinez, Contra Costa County, CA. I don't know exactly when they took the train to Calif but I don't think it was very long after they arrived. My grandfather had cousins who lived/live in Mass so they may have stayed and visited for a few weeks first. My grandfather told me that the train ride was a great adventure for him. I doubt my g-grandmother felt the same way though; riding a train all the way accross the US without a man and 3 small children in tow. I have such respect and awe for the bravery of these people coming here and all they had to endure to start a new life. Jacki Gentry Pittsburg, CA Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, Azevedo Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, Sao Miguel _ From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gracefalc...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 2:19 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel) Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
Celeste. Holt is still there on Roberts Island on Highway 4 a few miles west of Stockton. It was the stop for the factory of Holt Manufacturing Company. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holt_Manufacturing_Company This was a major asparagus farming area. There were large numbers of seasonal workers required, so labor brokers in Oakland and other areas advertised in the Portuguese community for workers. Eric Edgar On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 5:02 PM, celeste perry wrote: > My maternal grandmother, Maria Jose Ferreira Dinis, traveled from > Terceira via white Star Line, S.S. Cretic to the US in 1915. She is the one > I could not find entering via Ellis Island. > > Elaine found her entering via the port of Boston. She was going to: "her > father, Joao Ferreira Dinis; in Holt Station, San Joaquim." Her father was > working in San Gregorio which is half way between Half Moon Bay and Santa > Cruz on the California border with the Pacific Ocean. > > I found someone who worked for the railroad and asked about Holt Station. > I was told that was a station in 1915 just outside Stockton, CA. I have not > followed up on that information to see if the station still exists. > > I also have a complicated story about my maternal grandfather; however, he > left Lisbon for the US in 1913. > > Celeste, Hayward, CA > Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com > > > --- On *Sun, 1/23/11, gracefalc...@aol.com * wrote: > > (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be > helpful. > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." > -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 2:19 PM, wrote: > Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, > when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am > assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New > York) and took a train to the west coast. > > (1) Were the train stations near the ports? > > (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to > get to their destinations. > > (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be > helpful. > > thank-you for your time. > > grace falcone > > Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, > Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto > Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) > > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right > that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:19 PM, gracefalc...@aol.com wrote: (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. I am not sure this is what you are looking for but... My great grandfather (from Sao Jorge) came to Massachusetts around 1871 and worked several years there before coming to California. When he did, he came by train and he told my mother that the Indians "played tricks" on the train as they were passing by. Mary Bordi -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
My maternal grandmother, Maria Jose Ferreira Dinis, traveled from Terceira via white Star Line, S.S. Cretic to the US in 1915. She is the one I could not find entering via Ellis Island. Elaine found her entering via the port of Boston. She was going to: "her father, Joao Ferreira Dinis; in Holt Station, San Joaquim." Her father was working in San Gregorio which is half way between Half Moon Bay and Santa Cruz on the California border with the Pacific Ocean. I found someone who worked for the railroad and asked about Holt Station. I was told that was a station in 1915 just outside Stockton, CA. I have not followed up on that information to see if the station still exists. I also have a complicated story about my maternal grandfather; however, he left Lisbon for the US in 1913. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Sun, 1/23/11, gracefalc...@aol.com wrote: (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
Grace, To clarify the time period (and I'm not a transportation history buff), would before air travel be before WWII? When did air travel become feasible for the average American (or Canadian?) So are you saying maybe from 1850s to the 1950s? I know some disembarked on the east coast and took trains. Mine did that in the very early 1900s. I don't know the year of the Panama Canal off the top of my head, but I know many sailed around the horn before it was opened. Some of the early ones probably joined wagon trains. I don't know of the train or ship ports. Maybe others on this list knows. If it wasn't too far and before the automobile, I suppose some were just picked up by horse and buggy and brought to the home where they were going to live. The routes are going to depend heavily on the time period. You might want to google "american migration trails" or "american migration routes" to find information. Sorry I'm not of more help. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
[AZORES-Genealogy] Travel from Azores to West Coast or West Coast to Azores (mode of travel)
Before air travel and not counting those that sailed the whaling boats, when our Azorean ancestors traveled from the Azores to United States I am assuming most of them un boarded on the east coast (New Bedford, Boston, New York) and took a train to the west coast. (1) Were the train stations near the ports? (2) What routes did most of them take to get across the United States to get to their destinations. (3) Any thing else of interest you may have regarding this journey would be helpful. thank-you for your time. grace falcone Family names-Pacheco Santana, Moniz, Cabral, Carvalho, da Costa Canario, Vieira de Silva, Tavares, Arruda (villages-Furnas, Maia, Porto Formosa-Riberia Grande and Sao Pedro-Nordestinho, Sao Miguel, Azores) -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
