Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

[Sean Andrade]

Thanks! Good to know they were dead prior to this marriage. That was the 
word I couldn't translate or make out.

Does it say that they are from Sao Matteus?

On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 8:49:21 PM UTC-7, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> In this case I think it does give the bride's parents' names.  Beginning 
> midway on line 7 I see "Agueda Barboza viuva de Fran.o V.ra Gl.te, f.a de 
> João de Medina e Miranda e sua m.er Izabel Homem, defuntos." which I 
> translate as:
>
> Agueda Barboza, widow of Francisco Viera Goularte, daughter of João Medina 
> e Miranda and his wife Izabel Homem, both deceased.
>
> Bill Seidler
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

There are times when I'm glad I'm wrong. 



> On May 21, 2016, at 8:49 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote:
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> In this case I think it does give the bride's parents' names.  Beginning 
> midway on line 7 I see "Agueda Barboza viuva de Fran.o V.ra Gl.te, f.a de 
> João de Medina e Miranda e sua m.er Izabel Homem, defuntos." which I 
> translate as:
> 
> Agueda Barboza, widow of Francisco Viera Goularte, daughter of João Medina e 
> Miranda and his wife Izabel Homem, both deceased.
> 
> Bill Seidler
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

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In this case I think it does give the bride's parents' names.  Beginning 
midway on line 7 I see "Agueda Barboza viuva de Fran.o V.ra Gl.te, f.a de 
João de Medina e Miranda e sua m.er Izabel Homem, defuntos." which I 
translate as:

Agueda Barboza, widow of Francisco Viera Goularte, daughter of João Medina 
e Miranda and his wife Izabel Homem, both deceased.

Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

[Cheri Mello]

When searching the former NEPS (now CITCEM-GHP) database, you need to use
the correct spelling. If you make a typo, it won't work. No "n" exists in
Agueda.
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

I just checked my book containing Sao Mateus' records and it only lists births 
from 01 Jan 1673. Your Agueda would probably have been born before that based 
on when the children from her first marriage were born. 

Gayle



> On May 21, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> This is the second marriage for Aguenda Barbosa: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1698-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1698-1748_item1/P40.html
> 
> I am trying to make out her parents name. I searched through NEPS but 
> couldn't find information through her name for her parents.
> 
> Her dad looks like Joao da Medina da Miranda? and mom is Isabel Homem da ???
> 
> I think it says they are from Sao Matteus but I don't know if I am 
> translating it correctly.
> 
> I have searched through obits for Sao Matteus but haven't found any names 
> like theirs so I am wondering if maybe they are from somewhere else.
> 
>> On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 5:52:03 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> You're welcome. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks! I can see it now and see she got remarried as well. I also found 
>>> her marriage record with Manual stating that she is the widow of my 
>>> ancestor.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again!
>>> 
 On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
 Sean,
 
 Just checked CITCEM which gives date as the 21st of Nov. it confirms 
 husband's name with what I thought I read. 
 
 Gayle
 
 
 
> On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html
> 
> It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first 
> time I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone 
> can see something different.
> 
> The record is very faded.
> 
> Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.
> 
> Does it also mention how old she may have been?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

The parents' names are not recorded on second marriages. It will only say she's 
the widow of someone. At least that's the custom during this time period. 
Farther back and the parents' names may not appear even on first marriages. 
Sorry. 

Gayle



> On May 21, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> This is the second marriage for Aguenda Barbosa: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1698-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1698-1748_item1/P40.html
> 
> I am trying to make out her parents name. I searched through NEPS but 
> couldn't find information through her name for her parents.
> 
> Her dad looks like Joao da Medina da Miranda? and mom is Isabel Homem da ???
> 
> I think it says they are from Sao Matteus but I don't know if I am 
> translating it correctly.
> 
> I have searched through obits for Sao Matteus but haven't found any names 
> like theirs so I am wondering if maybe they are from somewhere else.
> 
>> On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 5:52:03 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> You're welcome. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks! I can see it now and see she got remarried as well. I also found 
>>> her marriage record with Manual stating that she is the widow of my 
>>> ancestor.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again!
>>> 
 On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
 Sean,
 
 Just checked CITCEM which gives date as the 21st of Nov. it confirms 
 husband's name with what I thought I read. 
 
 Gayle
 
 
 
> On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html
> 
> It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first 
> time I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone 
> can see something different.
> 
> The record is very faded.
> 
> Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.
> 
> Does it also mention how old she may have been?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

[Seekgene via Azores Genealogy]

Agueda Barbosa is my 8th great grandmother and Francisco   Vieira Goulart 
is my 8th great grandfather.  I know that they died in Sao  Mateus.
 
 
In a message dated 5/21/2016 7:38:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
andrade.d.s...@gmail.com writes:

This is the second marriage for Aguenda  Barbosa: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1698-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1
698-1748_item1/P40.html   


I am trying to make out her parents name. I searched through NEPS but  
couldn't find information through her name for her parents.


Her dad looks like Joao da Medina da Miranda? and mom is Isabel Homem da  
???


I think it says they are from Sao Matteus but I don't know if I am  
translating it correctly.


I have searched through obits for Sao Matteus but haven't found any names  
like theirs so I am wondering if maybe they are from somewhere else.

On  Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 5:52:03 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:  
 
You're welcome. 




On May 21, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sean Andrade <_andrade...@gmail.com_ 
(javascript:) >  wrote:




Thanks! I can see it now and see she got remarried as well. I  also found 
her marriage record with Manual stating that she is the widow  of my 
ancestor.  


Thanks again!

On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-7,  good...@_aol.com_ 
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Sean,


Just checked CITCEM which gives date as the 21st of Nov. it  confirms 
husband's name with what I thought I read. 


Gayle




On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:




Hi,  


I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top  right: 
_http://culturacores.http://culturacores.http://culturacores.azhttp:
//culturacores.azorhttp://culturacores.http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-
1733-1755_item1/P27.html) 


It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not  the first 
time I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues.  Unless someone 
can see something different.


The record is very faded.


Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like  confirmation.


Does it also mention how old she may have been?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

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This is the second marriage for Aguenda 
Barbosa: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1698-1748/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-C-1698-1748_item1/P40.html

I am trying to make out her parents name. I searched through NEPS but 
couldn't find information through her name for her parents.

Her dad looks like Joao da Medina da Miranda? and mom is Isabel Homem da ???

I think it says they are from Sao Matteus but I don't know if I am 
translating it correctly.

I have searched through obits for Sao Matteus but haven't found any names 
like theirs so I am wondering if maybe they are from somewhere else.

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> You're welcome. 
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
> Thanks! I can see it now and see she got remarried as well. I also found 
> her marriage record with Manual stating that she is the widow of my 
> ancestor.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Sean,
>>
>> Just checked CITCEM which gives date as the 21st of Nov. it confirms 
>> husband's name with what I thought I read. 
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top right: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html
>>
>> It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first 
>> time I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone 
>> can see something different.
>>
>> The record is very faded.
>>
>> Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.
>>
>> Does it also mention how old she may have been?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

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You're welcome. 



> On May 21, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> Thanks! I can see it now and see she got remarried as well. I also found her 
> marriage record with Manual stating that she is the widow of my ancestor.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
>> On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> Sean,
>> 
>> Just checked CITCEM which gives date as the 21st of Nov. it confirms 
>> husband's name with what I thought I read. 
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top right: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html
>>> 
>>> It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first 
>>> time I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone 
>>> can see something different.
>>> 
>>> The record is very faded.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.
>>> 
>>> Does it also mention how old she may have been?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

[Sean Andrade]

Thanks! I can see it now and see she got remarried as well. I also found 
her marriage record with Manual stating that she is the widow of my 
ancestor.

Thanks again!

On Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 4:27:02 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Sean,
>
> Just checked CITCEM which gives date as the 21st of Nov. it confirms 
> husband's name with what I thought I read. 
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html
>
> It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first 
> time I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone 
> can see something different.
>
> The record is very faded.
>
> Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.
>
> Does it also mention how old she may have been?
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

Just checked CITCEM which gives date as the 21st of Nov. it confirms husband's 
name with what I thought I read. 

Gayle



> On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html
> 
> It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first time 
> I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone can see 
> something different.
> 
> The record is very faded.
> 
> Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.
> 
> Does it also mention how old she may have been?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Sean,

I see the husband as Manuel Rodrigues Fagundes. And, the date of death as 30 
Nov 1737.

Hope this helps. 

Gayle



> On May 21, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Sean Andrade  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html
> 
> It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first time 
> I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone can see 
> something different.
> 
> The record is very faded.
> 
> Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.
> 
> Does it also mention how old she may have been?
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[AZORES-Genealogy] obit record

[Sean Andrade]

Hi,

I need help with this death record for Aguenda Barbosa on the top 
right: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755/PIC-MD-SAOMATEUS-O-1733-1755_item1/P27.html

It doesn't look like they list the husbands name, which is not the first 
time I have come across this with the obits in Sao Matues. Unless someone 
can see something different.

The record is very faded.

Can anyone see the year. I think it is 1737 but I would like confirmation.

Does it also mention how old she may have been?

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