Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Means that, in this case, the grooms grandparents are the same as one set of the brides gggrandparents. Jose Antonio Goncalves father was Manuel Gonçalves Fagundes, son of Antonio Simao Fagundes and Catarina Maria. Mariana Jose mother was Maria Vitorina, daughter of Angela Mariana, daughter of Ana Maria do Rosario, daughter of the above Antonio Simao Fagundes and Catarina Maria. The age diference between them, makes this diference in generations. The groom was 45 years older then the bride in this case. His age as 58 in record is wrong as it should have been 68, as there are records to prove it. Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Quarta-feira, 12 de Fevereiro de 2014 14:37, Susan Vargas Murphy escreveu: Hi Marcio, I am not sure that it means 2nd and 4th cousins? I looked back on some old posts that I saved from my computer and this is one that Joao SL Filho in Brazil posted long ago: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:12:30 -0300 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_S._Lopes_Filho?=" To: azore...@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000301c0fb7e$e05b3a20$3da3bfc8@winteste> Subject: [AZORES-L] graus de consanguinidade "2o. grau de consanguinidade" - the spouses are 1st cousins, common grandparents "3o. grau" - common great-grandparents "4o. grau" - common great-greatgrandparents "2o. e 3o. grau misto" - common ancestors were one's grandparent and another one's great-grandparent "4o. grau por duas partes" - 4o. grau - common great-great-grandparents. Joao SL Rio On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:03:18 AM UTC-8, Azoreanno wrote: They didnt receive the Blessings most likely because he had been married before > >Marcio Borba >Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com > > > >Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 13:35, Marcio Borba > escreveu: > >They married Dec. 18 1862. >Jose Antonio Goncalves, 58 years old, widower of Quiteria Maria who died in >this parish, legitimate son of Manuel Goncalves and Clara dos Anjos. >Mariana Jose, 22 years old, legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria >Vitorina. > > >They were "dispensados do 2º. e 4º. grau de consaguinidade lícita" means they >were second and fourth cousins > >Marcio Borba >Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot. com > > > >Em Segunda-feira, 10 de Fevereiro de 2014 21:02, Marilyn Thompson > escreveu: > > > >Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I >have no idea what is being said. > > >The part after Maria Victorina's name. > > >I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. > > > >On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: > >Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes >place? >> >> >> >>On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: >> >>Marrilyn >>>Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. >>>What I wrote before are the facts contained there. >>>The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other >>>iformation there. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>From: rfrancis...@comcast.net >>>To: azo...@googlegroups.com >>>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge >>>Surnames Goncalves and Jose >>>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 >>> >>> >>> >>>In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) >>> >>>Rick >>> >>>Richard Francis Pimentel >>>Spring, TX >>> >>> >>>From:azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups. com] On Behalf Of >>>Marilyn Thompson >>>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM >>>To: Cheri Mello >>>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge >>>Surnames Goncalves and Jose >>> >>>Richard >>> >>>Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I >>>am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins >>> >>>Marilyn >>> >>>On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel >>> wrote: >>>Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower >>>of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna >>>Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 >>>years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. &g
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Hi Marcio, I am not sure that it means 2nd and 4th cousins? I looked back on some old posts that I saved from my computer and this is one that Joao SL Filho in Brazil posted long ago: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:12:30 -0300 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_S._Lopes_Filho?=" To: azore...@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <000301c0fb7e$e05b3a20$3da3bfc8@winteste> Subject: [AZORES-L] graus de consanguinidade "2o. grau de consanguinidade" - the spouses are 1st cousins, common grandparents "3o. grau" - common great-grandparents "4o. grau" - common great-greatgrandparents "2o. e 3o. grau misto" - common ancestors were one's grandparent and another one's great-grandparent "4o. grau por duas partes" - 4o. grau - common great-great-grandparents. Joao SL Rio On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:03:18 AM UTC-8, Azoreanno wrote: > > They didnt receive the Blessings most likely because he had been married > before > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 13:35, Marcio Borba < > marciobo...@yahoo.com > escreveu: > They married Dec. 18 1862. > Jose Antonio Goncalves, 58 years old, widower of Quiteria Maria who died > in this parish, legitimate son of Manuel Goncalves and Clara dos Anjos. > Mariana Jose, 22 years old, legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and > Maria Vitorina. > > They were "dispensados do 2º. e 4º. grau de consaguinidade lícita" means > they were second and fourth cousins > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Segunda-feira, 10 de Fevereiro de 2014 21:02, Marilyn Thompson < > mar...@jmtmlt.com > escreveu: > > Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that > I have no idea what is being said. > > The part after Maria Victorina's name. > > I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson > > > wrote: > > Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes > place? > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires > > > wrote: > > Marrilyn > Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna > Jose. > What I wrote before are the facts contained there. > The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other > iformation there. > > -- > From: rfrancis...@comcast.net > To: azo...@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 > > > *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > > > *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > Richard > > Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? > I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about > twins > > Marilyn > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancis...@comcast.net > wrote: > *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves > widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and > Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos > single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria > Cristenina. * > > *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. > He must have been a real charmer. * > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > > > *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM > > *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > Hello Marilyn > Here is what I make of that record: > 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. > Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria > Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara > dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel > Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above pari
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Thank you that is great to find a cousin. I am glad you have such good information. I will get back to you Marilyn On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Marcio Borba wrote: > I just realized I had Jose Antonio GOncalves and his both weddings in my > data. His father Manuel Gonçalves (Fagundes), was brothers with my ancestor > Ana Maria do Rosario. See attached document. > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 14:03, Marcio Borba < > marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com> escreveu: > They didnt receive the Blessings most likely because he had been married > before > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 13:35, Marcio Borba < > marcioborba_ge...@yahoo.com> escreveu: > They married Dec. 18 1862. > Jose Antonio Goncalves, 58 years old, widower of Quiteria Maria who died > in this parish, legitimate son of Manuel Goncalves and Clara dos Anjos. > Mariana Jose, 22 years old, legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and > Maria Vitorina. > > They were "dispensados do 2º. e 4º. grau de consaguinidade lícita" means > they were second and fourth cousins > > Marcio Borba > Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com > > > Em Segunda-feira, 10 de Fevereiro de 2014 21:02, Marilyn Thompson < > mari...@jmtmlt.com> escreveu: > > Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that > I have no idea what is being said. > > The part after Maria Victorina's name. > > I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: > > Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes > place? > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: > > Marrilyn > Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna > Jose. > What I wrote before are the facts contained there. > The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other > iformation there. > > -- > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 > > > *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > Richard > > Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? > I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about > twins > > Marilyn > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves > widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and > Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos > single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria > Cristenina. * > > *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. > He must have been a real charmer. * > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > *Spring, TX* > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > Hello Marilyn > Here is what I make of that record: > 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. > Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria > Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara > dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel > Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. > The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 > Jan 1863 > > -- > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 > *Hi Marilyn,* > > *There is a lot going on
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
They didnt receive the Blessings most likely because he had been married before Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Terça-feira, 11 de Fevereiro de 2014 13:35, Marcio Borba escreveu: They married Dec. 18 1862. Jose Antonio Goncalves, 58 years old, widower of Quiteria Maria who died in this parish, legitimate son of Manuel Goncalves and Clara dos Anjos. Mariana Jose, 22 years old, legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Vitorina. They were "dispensados do 2º. e 4º. grau de consaguinidade lícita" means they were second and fourth cousins Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Segunda-feira, 10 de Fevereiro de 2014 21:02, Marilyn Thompson escreveu: Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I have no idea what is being said. The part after Maria Victorina's name. I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? > > > >On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: > >Marrilyn >>Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. >>What I wrote before are the facts contained there. >>The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other >>iformation there. >> >> >> >>____ >>From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 >> >> >> >>In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) >> >>Rick >> >>Richard Francis Pimentel >>Spring, TX >> >> >>From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>Marilyn Thompson >>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM >>To: Cheri Mello >>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >> >>Richard >> >>Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I >>am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins >> >>Marilyn >> >>On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel >> wrote: >>Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of >>Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. >>The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old >>and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. >> >>Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He >>must have been a real charmer. >> >>Rick >> >>Richard Francis Pimentel >>Spring, TX >> >> >>From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>Hermano C. Pires >>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM >> >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >> >>Hello Marilyn >>Here is what I make of that record: >>18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. >>Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, >>buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos >>Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira >>and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. >>The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan >>1863 >> >> >> >> >>From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 >>Hi Marilyn, >> >>There is a lot going on in this record. I don’t understand it all but it >>starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are >>the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves >>and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira >>and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in >>the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 >> >>In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were >>married. I wou
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
They married Dec. 18 1862. Jose Antonio Goncalves, 58 years old, widower of Quiteria Maria who died in this parish, legitimate son of Manuel Goncalves and Clara dos Anjos. Mariana Jose, 22 years old, legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Vitorina. They were "dispensados do 2º. e 4º. grau de consaguinidade lícita" means they were second and fourth cousins Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Segunda-feira, 10 de Fevereiro de 2014 21:02, Marilyn Thompson escreveu: Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I have no idea what is being said. The part after Maria Victorina's name. I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? > > > >On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: > >Marrilyn >>Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. >>What I wrote before are the facts contained there. >>The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other >>iformation there. >> >> >> >>____ >>From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 >> >> >> >>In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) >> >>Rick >> >>Richard Francis Pimentel >>Spring, TX >> >> >>From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>Marilyn Thompson >>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM >>To: Cheri Mello >>Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >> >>Richard >> >>Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I >>am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins >> >>Marilyn >> >>On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel >> wrote: >>Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of >>Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. >>The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old >>and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. >> >>Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He >>must have been a real charmer. >> >>Rick >> >>Richard Francis Pimentel >>Spring, TX >> >> >>From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>Hermano C. Pires >>Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM >> >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >> >>Hello Marilyn >>Here is what I make of that record: >>18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. >>Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, >>buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos >>Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira >>and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. >>The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan >>1863 >> >> >> >> >>From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net >>To: azores@googlegroups.com >>Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames >>Goncalves and Jose >>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 >>Hi Marilyn, >> >>There is a lot going on in this record. I don’t understand it all but it >>starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are >>the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves >>and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira >>and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in >>the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 >> >>In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were >>married. I would check out the marriages on this date. >> >> >> >>Rick >> >>Richard Francis Pimentel >>Spring, TX >> >> >>From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
I was wrong about that. There are none. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:34 AM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Thank you Richard and Hermano for your help with this record. Richard can you tell me exactly what it says about twins? Who are the twins? If they are part of this family I would like to find out more about them. Thanks again Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Somehow I convinced myself it was a baptism kind of makes me feel dumb. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Thank you Richard and Hermano for your help with this record. Richard can you tell me exactly what it says about twins? Who are the twins? If they are part of this family I would like to find out more about them. Thanks again Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *Somehow I convinced myself it was a baptism kind of makes me feel dumb.* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 7:30 PM > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Marrilyn > Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna > Jose. > What I wrote before are the facts contained there. > The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other > iformation there. > > -------------- > > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 > > *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Richard > > > > Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? > I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about > twins > > > > Marilyn > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > > *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves > widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and > Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos > single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria > Cristenina. * > > > > *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. > He must have been a real charmer. * > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM > > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Hello Marilyn > Here is what I make of that record: > 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. > Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria > Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara > dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel > Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. > The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 > Jan 1863 > > -- > > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 > > *Hi Marilyn,* > > > > *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it > starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are > the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel > Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of > Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was > baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* > > > > *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were > married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* > > > > > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Su
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Somehow I convinced myself it was a baptism kind of makes me feel dumb. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 7:30 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it wil
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Is it possible to get a line by line translation? There are sections that I have no idea what is being said. The part after Maria Victorina's name. I do not need the part talking about the Catholic Church and priest. On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote: > Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes > place? > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: > >> Marrilyn >> Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna >> Jose. >> What I wrote before are the facts contained there. >> The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other >> iformation there. >> >> -- >> From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net >> To: azores@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge >> Surnames Goncalves and Jose >> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 >> >> >> *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Spring, TX* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson >> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM >> *To:* Cheri Mello >> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge >> Surnames Goncalves and Jose >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering >> twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything >> about twins >> >> >> >> Marilyn >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < >> rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves >> widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and >> Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos >> single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria >> Cristenina. * >> >> >> >> *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. >> He must have been a real charmer. * >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Spring, TX* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires >> *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM >> >> >> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge >> Surnames Goncalves and Jose >> >> >> >> Hello Marilyn >> Here is what I make of that record: >> 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. >> Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria >> Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara >> dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel >> Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. >> The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 >> Jan 1863 >> >> -- >> >> From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net >> To: azores@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge >> Surnames Goncalves and Jose >> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 >> >> *Hi Marilyn,* >> >> >> >> *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it >> starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are >> the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel >> Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of >> Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was >> baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* >> >> >> >> *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were >> married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Spring, TX* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] >> *O
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
I have seen it in many records. I never though much about it, but it makes sense that the marriage be blessed after consumation! The last part is my own thought on it :)) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:42:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose From: mari...@jmtmlt.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Is it common to have a Marriage Blessing received after the marriage takes place? On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote: > Marrilyn > Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna > Jose. > What I wrote before are the facts contained there. > The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other > iformation there. > > -- > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 > > > *In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima)* > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Richard > > > > Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? > I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about > twins > > > > Marilyn > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > > *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves > widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and > Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos > single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria > Cristenina. * > > > > *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. > He must have been a real charmer. * > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM > > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Hello Marilyn > Here is what I make of that record: > 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. > Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria > Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara > dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel > Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. > The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 > Jan 1863 > > -- > > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 > > *Hi Marilyn,* > > > > *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it > starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are > the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel > Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of > Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was > baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* > > > > *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were > married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* > > > > > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html > > > > > Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link > > > > This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with > additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as > the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, > maybe? > > > > I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: > > > > 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose > > > > Jose Antonio Goncalves pa
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Marrilyn Record #15 is a wedding record for Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. What I wrote before are the facts contained there. The names you see in the margin are Jose and Marianna, there is no other iformation there. From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:20:37 -0600 In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote:Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn-- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google acco
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
In the margin is the names Jose and Maxima (Jose e Maxima) Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:13 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:azores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the
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I meant Maria Victorina below. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:38 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Richard Can you tell me which line in the record states about him fathering twins? I am interested to see what it looks like. I did not know anything about twins Marilyn On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves > widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and > Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos > single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria > Cristenina. * > > > > *Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. > He must have been a real charmer. * > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Hermano C. Pires > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM > > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > Hello Marilyn > Here is what I make of that record: > 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. > Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria > Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara > dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel > Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. > The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 > Jan 1863 > > -------------- > > From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 > > *Hi Marilyn,* > > > > *There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it > starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are > the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel > Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of > Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was > baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862* > > > > *In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were > married. I would check out the marriages on this date.* > > > > > > > > *Rick* > > > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Spring, TX* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com > [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Thompson > *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM > *To:* Cheri Mello > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge > Surnames Goncalves and Jose > > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html > > > > > Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link > > > > This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with > additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as > the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, > maybe? > > > > I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: > > > > 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose > > > > Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: > > > > Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos > > > > Marianna Jose's parents: > > > > Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about > Civil > > > > > > I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this > record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. > > > > Thank you for your help. This group is great. > > > > Marilyn > > -- > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/
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Hermano I see it now. The father of the twins is Antonio Gonsalves widower of Quiteira Maria, 58 years old and son of Manuel Gonsalves and Marianna Jose. The mother is as I previously stated: Clara dos Anjos single 22 years old and the daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina. Real interesting 58 and fathering twins with a 22 year old single woman. He must have been a real charmer. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hermano C. Pires Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 _ From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Hello Marilyn Here is what I make of that record: 18 Dec 1862 Nossa Senhora do Rosario, Topo. Jose Antonio Gonsalves (Goncalves), 58 yeas old, widower of Quiteria Maria, buried in this parish, son of Manuel Gonsalves (Goncalves) and Clara dos Anjos, with Marianna Jose, 22 years old, single, daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Victorina, all baptised and residing in the above parish. The side margin note refers to them recieving the nupcial blessing on 12 Jan 1863 From: rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:29:20 -0600 Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis PimentelSpring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn-- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose
Hi Marilyn, There is a lot going on in this record. I don't understand it all but it starts off naming Jose Antonio Gonsalves and Marianna Jose who I think are the grandparents of Jose & Maxiam and Children of their son Manuel Gonsalves and Clara dos Anjos who is the single legitimate daughter of Manuel Teixeira and Maria Cristenina??? who is 22 years old and was baptized and resides in the freguesia. The record date is 18 Dec 1862 In the margin on 12 Jan 1863 I think it says they (Manuel & Clara) were married. I would check out the marriages on this date. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Thompson Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 12:46 PM To: Cheri Mello Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869 /SJR-CH-TOPO-C-1860-1869_item1/P26.html Sorry I do not know why it did not put this as a hyper-link This marriage on Sao Jorge, Topo, seems to have a different format with additional information. One of their daughter's baptism did not name him as the father. She was born in Mar 1862. I am thinking it is explaining this, maybe? I can pick out from this marriage # 15 on the top right: 2 Dec 1862 marriage of Jose Antonio Goncalves and Marianna Jose Jose Antonio Goncalves parents: Manuel Gonsalves Fagundas and Clara dos Anjos Marianna Jose's parents: Maria Victorina and Manuel Texiera but it looks like something about Civil I would appreciate any additional information that can be located in this record. It has been several years since I have tried to read these records. Thank you for your help. This group is great. Marilyn -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
