Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
Hi Cheri, Thanks for that find - I'll look further into it and see what I can find. It's been difficult, as I'm having a hard time finding any vital records later on in New Bedford (or Massachusetts) for any of them passed a certain point, so I'm wondering what happened to them after that. Claudina is unusual enough that I would think it would be easy to track her better. But that's a good start to go look there. Shirley - they're all from Ribiera Quente. Elaine On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:42:51 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Elaine, > > They went to meet the brother of Claudina, Francisco Silva, 317 S. Front > St, New Bedford? It looks like baby Francisco died on the way. I searched > Ancestry's Passenger arrivals with this to call it up (It's against > Ancestry's Terms of Service for me to post the image): > > > > Cheri Mello > Listowner, Azores-Gen > Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, > Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Cheri Mello > wrote: > >> Yeah, he was in the right month, with the right ship, just off on the >> year. It happens. If all the family members are correct, then it's him. You >> can search for the arrival in America a couple of weeks after. Although I >> just start looking in America on the next day, as I don't want to miss >> them. Cheri >> >> On Jun 24, 2018 6:13 AM, "Elaine Mello" > >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks - I didn't think about being held at Ellis, and will look further >>> into that. >>> >>> But I thought I found the passports for the family in 1902 - the link >>> doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but this is it here: >>> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P113.html >>> >>> >>> >>> As it lists the whole family, I'm assuming he was mistaken on the >>> arrival date. >>> >>> Elaine >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com . >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >>> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
Elaine, They went to meet the brother of Claudina, Francisco Silva, 317 S. Front St, New Bedford? It looks like baby Francisco died on the way. I searched Ancestry's Passenger arrivals with this to call it up (It's against Ancestry's Terms of Service for me to post the image): Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Yeah, he was in the right month, with the right ship, just off on the > year. It happens. If all the family members are correct, then it's him. You > can search for the arrival in America a couple of weeks after. Although I > just start looking in America on the next day, as I don't want to miss > them. Cheri > > On Jun 24, 2018 6:13 AM, "Elaine Mello" wrote: > >> Thanks - I didn't think about being held at Ellis, and will look further >> into that. >> >> But I thought I found the passports for the family in 1902 - the link >> doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but this is it here: >> http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/ >> PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P113.html >> >> As it lists the whole family, I'm assuming he was mistaken on the arrival >> date. >> >> Elaine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
Yeah, he was in the right month, with the right ship, just off on the year. It happens. If all the family members are correct, then it's him. You can search for the arrival in America a couple of weeks after. Although I just start looking in America on the next day, as I don't want to miss them. Cheri On Jun 24, 2018 6:13 AM, "Elaine Mello" wrote: > Thanks - I didn't think about being held at Ellis, and will look further > into that. > > But I thought I found the passports for the family in 1902 - the link > doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but this is it here: > http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_ > digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P113.html > > > As it lists the whole family, I'm assuming he was mistaken on the arrival > date. > > Elaine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
I have a gazillion MELLOs. Was he from Sao Miguel island? Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Elaine Mello To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 5:47 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for my paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the USCIS - I was so excited! Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they were refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, just in case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic information, which is part of the application that they had. So Antonio declared that he arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New York, which meant he was about 12 at the time. He also declared he entered as Antonio Mello. So I looked up the ship records, and can only find one Antonio Francis, aged 13, which may or may not be him. So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these forms, or are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete? I'm checking with the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is something at the state level since the federal government was such a disappointment (though they said I could try again as they are always searching for missing records, but that sounds more like looking for a needle in a haystack.) So back to the research drawing board! Elaine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
Thanks - I didn't think about being held at Ellis, and will look further into that. But I thought I found the passports for the family in 1902 - the link doesn't seem to be working at the moment, but this is it here: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902/PASSAPORTES-PDL-1900-1902_item1/P113.html As it lists the whole family, I'm assuming he was mistaken on the arrival date. Elaine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
Start with April 12, 1901 (he may have been a little sick and not released from the Ellis Island hospital until the 18th), then April 28th, 1900. See if one of those two turn him up. Are you trying to find his freguesia? Did you check the Azorean Passaportes LEAVING the Azores? Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 8:32 AM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > According to Morton Allen's Directory of Steamship arrivals the Dona Maria > arrived NY on April 28th *1900,* along with Jan 14, Feb 25, and Apr 12, > *1901.* > > > Rosemarie > rcap...@gmail.com > Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, > Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily > > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:34 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel < > rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> *Just had a thought this morning. To cover all bases check to see if by >> coincidence the Donna Maria also arrived around April 18, 1900. * >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Epping, NH* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Richard Francis Pimentel >> *Sent:* Friday, June 22, 2018 9:10 PM >> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records >> >> >> >> *If he said he arrived on the Donna Maria on 18 Apr 1901 and the ship >> record said the Donna Maria arrived in New York on 18 Apr 1901 then I would >> blow off the age. Check the passports prior to the Donna Maria sailing and >> see if you can find Antonio. * >> >> >> >> >> >> *Rick* >> >> *Richard Francis Pimentel* >> >> *Epping, NH* >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Elaine Mello >> *Sent:* Friday, June 22, 2018 8:48 PM >> *To:* Azores Genealogy >> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records >> >> >> >> So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for >> my paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the >> USCIS - I was so excited! >> >> >> >> Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover >> letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they >> were refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, >> just in case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic >> information, which is part of the application that they had. So Antonio >> declared that he arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New >> York, which meant he was about 12 at the time. He also declared he entered >> as Antonio Mello. So I looked up the ship records, and can only find one >> Antonio Francis, aged 13, which may or may not be him. >> >> >> >> So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these >> forms, or are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete? I'm >> checking with the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is >> something at the state level since the federal government was such a >> disappointment (though they said I could try again as they are always >> searching for missing records, but that sounds more like looking for a >> needle in a haystack.) So back to the research drawing board! >> >> >> >> Elaine >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Azores Genealogy" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
According to Morton Allen's Directory of Steamship arrivals the Dona Maria arrived NY on April 28th *1900,* along with Jan 14, Feb 25, and Apr 12, *1901.* Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 5:34 AM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> wrote: > *Just had a thought this morning. To cover all bases check to see if by > coincidence the Donna Maria also arrived around April 18, 1900. * > > > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Epping, NH* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Richard Francis Pimentel > *Sent:* Friday, June 22, 2018 9:10 PM > *To:* azores@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records > > > > *If he said he arrived on the Donna Maria on 18 Apr 1901 and the ship > record said the Donna Maria arrived in New York on 18 Apr 1901 then I would > blow off the age. Check the passports prior to the Donna Maria sailing and > see if you can find Antonio. * > > > > > > *Rick* > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Epping, NH* > > > > > > *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Elaine Mello > *Sent:* Friday, June 22, 2018 8:48 PM > *To:* Azores Genealogy > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records > > > > So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for > my paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the > USCIS - I was so excited! > > > > Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover > letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they > were refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, > just in case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic > information, which is part of the application that they had. So Antonio > declared that he arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New > York, which meant he was about 12 at the time. He also declared he entered > as Antonio Mello. So I looked up the ship records, and can only find one > Antonio Francis, aged 13, which may or may not be him. > > > > So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these > forms, or are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete? I'm > checking with the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is > something at the state level since the federal government was such a > disappointment (though they said I could try again as they are always > searching for missing records, but that sounds more like looking for a > needle in a haystack.) So back to the research drawing board! > > > > Elaine > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
Just had a thought this morning. To cover all bases check to see if by coincidence the Donna Maria also arrived around April 18, 1900. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 9:10 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records If he said he arrived on the Donna Maria on 18 Apr 1901 and the ship record said the Donna Maria arrived in New York on 18 Apr 1901 then I would blow off the age. Check the passports prior to the Donna Maria sailing and see if you can find Antonio. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Mello Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 8:48 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for my paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the USCIS - I was so excited! Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they were refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, just in case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic information, which is part of the application that they had. So Antonio declared that he arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New York, which meant he was about 12 at the time. He also declared he entered as Antonio Mello. So I looked up the ship records, and can only find one Antonio Francis, aged 13, which may or may not be him. So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these forms, or are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete? I'm checking with the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is something at the state level since the federal government was such a disappointment (though they said I could try again as they are always searching for missing records, but that sounds more like looking for a needle in a haystack.) So back to the research drawing board! Elaine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S.... govt records
If he said he arrived on the Donna Maria on 18 Apr 1901 and the ship record said the Donna Maria arrived in New York on 18 Apr 1901 then I would blow off the age. Check the passports prior to the Donna Maria sailing and see if you can find Antonio. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, NH From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Mello Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 8:48 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Immigrating to the U.S govt records So, after almost 2 years of trying to get information from the USCIS for my paternal grandfather, Antonio Mello, I came home to find a CD from the USCIS - I was so excited! Then I put it in the computer, and found two PDFs - one which was a cover letter saying that they couldn't find any further records and that they were refunding me my money (though check that it actually gets refunded, just in case they forget...) and a secondary sheet with some very basic information, which is part of the application that they had. So Antonio declared that he arrived April 18, 1901 on the S.S. Donna Maria into New York, which meant he was about 12 at the time. He also declared he entered as Antonio Mello. So I looked up the ship records, and can only find one Antonio Francis, aged 13, which may or may not be him. So, is it unusual for people to get this wrong when filling out these forms, or are the records I've found online of immigrants incomplete? I'm checking with the Justice Archives in Massachusetts to see if there is something at the state level since the federal government was such a disappointment (though they said I could try again as they are always searching for missing records, but that sounds more like looking for a needle in a haystack.) So back to the research drawing board! Elaine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/azores.
