Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

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From: Margaret Vicente 
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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

Doreen,Starting with the side note of record # 33 reads "um parvulo sem nome to sexo masculino" A parvulo without name of the masculine sex"There was a time when a just born baby was called parvulo and the meaning of the word may be interpreted differently today so I will refrain from giving it interpretation.
This is the record for a "rushed baptism performed by Andre Coelho Berbereia" starting on line 4, it reads: "Andre Coelho Berbereia, widower, proprietor, residing in this Parish baptized due to life endangerment an individual of the masculine sex whom he did no name and who was born in this parish" 
Margaret VicenteOn Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
I see it now if I am reading it right Andre baptized the infant because of danger of death. It begins on the 4th line and on the 6th line is written por perigo de vida "life in danger".


FYI it also states Andre is a widower and a proprietor.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX



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DO you know why my 2nd Great Grandfather signed the record?

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It appears in the normal format except that the name for the boy is not given. I can't find the word which are in the margin note in my dictionary. May be someone else can recognize the words. I would check the obitos after this date (16 Jan 1884) and see if there is an infant listed with the parents' names.


Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
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Please help me with http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889_item1/P108.html Entry #33. This Raminho, Terceria baptism does not follow the normal pattern. Could some one help me understand what this entry is saying. It involves my Great Great Grandfather Andre Coelho Berbereia who signed the record. Thank you Doreen Caetano.




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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It appears in the normal format except that the name for the boy is not given. 
I can't find the word which are in the margin note in my dictionary.  May be 
someone else can recognize the words.  I would check the obitos after this date 
(16 Jan 1884) and see if there is an infant listed with the parents' names.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the 
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Please help me with 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889_item1/P108.html
 Entry #33.  This Raminho, Terceria baptism does not follow the normal pattern. 
Could some one help me understand what this entry is saying. It involves my 
Great Great Grandfather Andre Coelho Berbereia who signed the record. Thank you 
Doreen Caetano.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

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DO you know why my 2nd Great Grandfather signed the record?

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Sent: Jan 26, 2014 10:15 AM
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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow 
the normal pattern

It appears in the normal format except that the name for the boy is not given. 
I can't find the word which are in the margin note in my dictionary.  May be 
someone else can recognize the words.  I would check the obitos after this 
date (16 Jan 1884) and see if there is an infant listed with the parents' 
names.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the 
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Please help me with 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889_item1/P108.html
 Entry #33.  This Raminho, Terceria baptism does not follow the normal 
pattern. Could some one help me understand what this entry is saying. It 
involves my Great Great Grandfather Andre Coelho Berbereia who signed the 
record. Thank you Doreen Caetano.

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I see it now if I am reading it right Andre baptized the infant because of 
danger of death.  It begins on the 4th line and on the 6th line is written por 
perigo de vida life in danger. 

FYI it also states Andre is a widower and a proprietor. 

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX



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Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow 
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DO you know why my 2nd Great Grandfather signed the record?

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From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
Sent: Jan 26, 2014 10:15 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow 
the normal pattern

It appears in the normal format except that the name for the boy is not given. 
I can't find the word which are in the margin note in my dictionary.  May be 
someone else can recognize the words.  I would check the obitos after this 
date (16 Jan 1884) and see if there is an infant listed with the parents' 
names.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the 
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Please help me with 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889_item1/P108.html
 Entry #33.  This Raminho, Terceria baptism does not follow the normal 
pattern. Could some one help me understand what this entry is saying. It 
involves my Great Great Grandfather Andre Coelho Berbereia who signed the 
record. Thank you Doreen Caetano.

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

[mances]

Rick,

You've got it right.

In the margin is written:

Um parvulo sem nome do sexo masculino
Párvulo is a word that means 'child'.

Manoel

Em domingo, 26 de janeiro de 2014 17h32min10s UTC-2, Richard Francis 
Pimentel escreveu:

 I see it now if I am reading it right Andre baptized the infant because of 
 danger of death.  It begins on the 4th line and on the 6th line is written 
 por perigo de vida life in danger. 

 FYI it also states Andre is a widower and a proprietor. 

 Rick 

 Richard Francis Pimentel 
 Spring, TX 



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 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not 
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 DO you know why my 2nd Great Grandfather signed the record? 

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 From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancis...@comcast.net javascript: 
 Sent: Jan 26, 2014 10:15 AM 
 To: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not 
 follow the normal pattern 
  
 It appears in the normal format except that the name for the boy is not 
 given. I can't find the word which are in the margin note in my dictionary. 
  May be someone else can recognize the words.  I would check the obitos 
 after this date (16 Jan 1884) and see if there is an infant listed with the 
 parents' names. 
  
 Rick 
  
 Richard Francis Pimentel 
 Spring, TX 
  
  
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 Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:46 AM 
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not 
 follow the normal pattern 
  
 Please help me with 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889_item1/P108.htmlEntry
  #33.  This Raminho, Terceria baptism does not follow the normal 
 pattern. Could some one help me understand what this entry is saying. It 
 involves my Great Great Grandfather Andre Coelho Berbereia who signed the 
 record. Thank you Doreen Caetano. 
  
  
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

[Margaret Vicente]

Doreen,

Starting with the side note of record # 33 reads um parvulo sem nome to
sexo masculino  A parvulo without name of the masculine sex

There was a time when a just born baby was called parvulo and the meaning
of the word may be interpreted differently today so I will refrain from
giving it interpretation.

 This is the record for a rushed baptism performed by Andre Coelho
Berbereia  starting on line 4, it reads:  Andre Coelho Berbereia,
widower, proprietor, residing in this Parish baptized due to life
endangerment an individual of the masculine sex whom he did no name and who
was born in this parish

Margaret Vicente




On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:

 I see it now if I am reading it right Andre baptized the infant because of
 danger of death.  It begins on the 4th line and on the 6th line is written
 por perigo de vida life in danger.

 FYI it also states Andre is a widower and a proprietor.

 Rick

 Richard Francis Pimentel
 Spring, TX



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 DO you know why my 2nd Great Grandfather signed the record?

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net
 Sent: Jan 26, 2014 10:15 AM
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not
 follow the normal pattern
 
 It appears in the normal format except that the name for the boy is not
 given. I can't find the word which are in the margin note in my dictionary.
  May be someone else can recognize the words.  I would check the obitos
 after this date (16 Jan 1884) and see if there is an infant listed with the
 parents' names.
 
 Rick
 
 Richard Francis Pimentel
 Spring, TX
 
 
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 Please help me with
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889_item1/P108.htmlEntry
  #33.  This Raminho, Terceria baptism does not follow the normal
 pattern. Could some one help me understand what this entry is saying. It
 involves my Great Great Grandfather Andre Coelho Berbereia who signed the
 record. Thank you Doreen Caetano.
 
 
 
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