Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2018-04-05 Thread Sean Andrade
 Thanks!

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2018-04-05 Thread Cheri Mello
I'm reading 4 grau at the end of line two:


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On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:01 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Sean A, you can hire Joao Ventura to look for you. Contact him at heroi99
> at yahoo.com and ask him for his fees for dispensation. Some exist, some
> don't.  Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
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> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
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> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> wrote:
>
>> Sean, there may be records of the dispensation but you would have to have
>> a researcher there do the searching for now. We are working on having the
>> dispensations of Sao Jorge copied and put online but it's taking a long
>> time!
>>
>> Rosemarie
>> rcap...@gmail.com
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Sean Andrade 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! In regards to dispensation's, there may be documents out there
>>> somewhere, just not online?
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 7:15:11 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 4th degree, so 3rd cousins.

 Cheri Mello
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 On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
 wrote:

> Sean, the first sentence says something about dispensation for being
> cousins but I can't see the degree.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am across this marriage record on the top left:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/F
>> AL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P21.html
>>
>> I believe it is between Miguel Silveira and Rosa Maria
>>
>> I am curious why it looks different compared to others, like the one
>> below it. There are some similar to this record and some similar to the 
>> one
>> below it. I don't typically see two different marriage records like this 
>> on
>> back to back pages. Is there a reason for this? Does this marriage record
>> say something different then the one below it?
>>
>> I can't translate this record but I do notice that it has words that
>> I do not recognize especially on the first few lines.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Sean
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2018-04-03 Thread Cheri Mello
Sean A, you can hire Joao Ventura to look for you. Contact him at heroi99
at yahoo.com and ask him for his fees for dispensation. Some exist, some
don't.  Cheri

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On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:12 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Sean, there may be records of the dispensation but you would have to have
> a researcher there do the searching for now. We are working on having the
> dispensations of Sao Jorge copied and put online but it's taking a long
> time!
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! In regards to dispensation's, there may be documents out there
>> somewhere, just not online?
>>
>> On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 7:15:11 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> 4th degree, so 3rd cousins.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
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>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Sean, the first sentence says something about dispensation for being
 cousins but I can't see the degree.

 Rosemarie
 rcap...@gmail.com
 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Sean Andrade 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am across this marriage record on the top left:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/F
> AL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P21.html
>
> I believe it is between Miguel Silveira and Rosa Maria
>
> I am curious why it looks different compared to others, like the one
> below it. There are some similar to this record and some similar to the 
> one
> below it. I don't typically see two different marriage records like this 
> on
> back to back pages. Is there a reason for this? Does this marriage record
> say something different then the one below it?
>
> I can't translate this record but I do notice that it has words that I
> do not recognize especially on the first few lines.
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
> Sean
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2018-04-03 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Sean, there may be records of the dispensation but you would have to have a
researcher there do the searching for now. We are working on having the
dispensations of Sao Jorge copied and put online but it's taking a long
time!

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Sean Andrade 
wrote:

> Thanks! In regards to dispensation's, there may be documents out there
> somewhere, just not online?
>
> On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 7:15:11 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> 4th degree, so 3rd cousins.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sean, the first sentence says something about dispensation for being
>>> cousins but I can't see the degree.
>>>
>>> Rosemarie
>>> rcap...@gmail.com
>>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Sean Andrade 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I am across this marriage record on the top left:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P21.html

 I believe it is between Miguel Silveira and Rosa Maria

 I am curious why it looks different compared to others, like the one
 below it. There are some similar to this record and some similar to the one
 below it. I don't typically see two different marriage records like this on
 back to back pages. Is there a reason for this? Does this marriage record
 say something different then the one below it?

 I can't translate this record but I do notice that it has words that I
 do not recognize especially on the first few lines.

 Any help is appreciated!

 Thanks!
 Sean

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2018-04-03 Thread Sean Andrade
Thanks! In regards to dispensation's, there may be documents out there 
somewhere, just not online?

On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 7:15:11 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> 4th degree, so 3rd cousins.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci  > wrote:
>
>> Sean, the first sentence says something about dispensation for being 
>> cousins but I can't see the degree. 
>>
>> Rosemarie 
>> rcap...@gmail.com 
>> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
>> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Sean Andrade > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am across this marriage record on the top left: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P21.html
>>>
>>> I believe it is between Miguel Silveira and Rosa Maria
>>>
>>> I am curious why it looks different compared to others, like the one 
>>> below it. There are some similar to this record and some similar to the one 
>>> below it. I don't typically see two different marriage records like this on 
>>> back to back pages. Is there a reason for this? Does this marriage record 
>>> say something different then the one below it?
>>>
>>> I can't translate this record but I do notice that it has words that I 
>>> do not recognize especially on the first few lines.
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciated!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Sean
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2018-04-02 Thread Cheri Mello
4th degree, so 3rd cousins.

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On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

> Sean, the first sentence says something about dispensation for being
> cousins but I can't see the degree.
>
> Rosemarie
> rcap...@gmail.com
> Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
> Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am across this marriage record on the top left:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
>> FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P21.html
>>
>> I believe it is between Miguel Silveira and Rosa Maria
>>
>> I am curious why it looks different compared to others, like the one
>> below it. There are some similar to this record and some similar to the one
>> below it. I don't typically see two different marriage records like this on
>> back to back pages. Is there a reason for this? Does this marriage record
>> say something different then the one below it?
>>
>> I can't translate this record but I do notice that it has words that I do
>> not recognize especially on the first few lines.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Sean
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2018-04-02 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Sean, the first sentence says something about dispensation for being
cousins but I can't see the degree.

Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Sean Andrade 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am across this marriage record on the top left: http://culturacores.
> azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-
> 1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P21.html
>
> I believe it is between Miguel Silveira and Rosa Maria
>
> I am curious why it looks different compared to others, like the one below
> it. There are some similar to this record and some similar to the one below
> it. I don't typically see two different marriage records like this on back
> to back pages. Is there a reason for this? Does this marriage record say
> something different then the one below it?
>
> I can't translate this record but I do notice that it has words that I do
> not recognize especially on the first few lines.
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
> Sean
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-18 Thread Shirley Allegre
This is what it looks like to me.
31 Jan 1787, in Capelo
Jose Dutra de Andrade
(Manoel Dutra de Andrade X Theresa Rosa da Silveira)
SPOUSE
Ignacia Maria da Silveira
(Francisco Dutra da South _ _X  Maria Goularte)  {Looks like they might 
both be deceased.}
natives of this Parochial
They were 3rd degree consanguinidade.
TESTIMONY
Vicente de Souto married with Angelica Rosa
AND
Antonio Silveira de Faria married with Rosa Silveira? da Faria

That is the best that I can do.Shirley in CA


- Original Message - 
  From: Cheri Mello 
  To: Azores Genealogy 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo


  I'd like to make the bride's dad a Silveira, but the abbreviation just 
doesn't look right. As for the bride's mom, I lean towards Maria Goncalves 
(Gl...), but the hook from the line below is reaching up and I can't be certain 
if it belongs to the name or the line below. Looks like a raised .te on the 
bride's mom's surname though. Doesn't make sense for Goncalves.

  Cheri



  Cheri Mello
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  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada


  On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Margaret Vicente <margaretvice...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Jose Dutra de Andrade son of Manuel Dutra de Andrade and of his wife Teresa 
Rosa da Silveira


Naturals of this Parish of which they are parishioners.



On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Sean Andrade <andrade.d.s...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  Hi,


  I have another marriage record from Capelo I need help with on the bottom 
right. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P102.html


  I believe the year is 1787, can someone confirm?


  I can make out Jose Dutra's parents names.


  Ignacia Maria's father looks like Francisco Dutra da  and Mother 
looks like ___ Maria __


  Does it mention where all four parents are from?


  What does it say in the bottom half of the record? I see names and 
something that looks like 3 degrees.





  On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
"digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal 
translation is "I meant to say"



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas, Achada


On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez <perezsa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps 
"known as."



  On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade <andrade...@gmail.com> 
wrote:



Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the 
left middle: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html


I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it 
states his age, but I can'r read it.


Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
  6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)

  (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade

  setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.


  .having of age

  70 years a little more or less..



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira 
das Tainhas, Achada


  On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade 
<andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,


Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html


It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was 
married to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name 
of I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade 
was her husband or father?


IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age 
anywhere. Can someone confirm?


There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello 
wrote:
  Many times I just see the word "outro."



  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


  On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade 
<andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so n

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-15 Thread Sean Andrade
Thanks. I looked on Uminho and it says the mom is Goulart which I can see 
the G and T in the marriage record. For the Dad on uminho it says Francisco 
Dutra da Rosa, but it does not look like da Rosa in the marriage record at 
all to me. So I'm not sure what to make of it.

What do you mean by dispensation? What information would it have?



On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 2:10:01 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> I'd like to make the bride's dad a Silveira, but the abbreviation just 
> doesn't look right. As for the bride's mom, I lean towards Maria Goncalves 
> (Gl...), but the hook from the line below is reaching up and I can't be 
> certain if it belongs to the name or the line below. Looks like a raised 
> .te on the bride's mom's surname though. Doesn't make sense for Goncalves.
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Margaret Vicente  > wrote:
>
>> Jose Dutra de Andrade son of Manuel Dutra de Andrade and of his wife 
>> Teresa Rosa da Silveira
>>
>> Naturals of this Parish of which they are parishioners.
>>  
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Sean Andrade > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have another marriage record from Capelo I need help with on the 
>>> bottom right. 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P102.html
>>>
>>> I believe the year is 1787, can someone confirm?
>>>
>>> I can make out Jose Dutra's parents names.
>>>
>>> Ignacia Maria's father looks like Francisco Dutra da  and Mother 
>>> looks like ___ Maria __
>>>
>>> Does it mention where all four parents are from?
>>>
>>> What does it say in the bottom half of the record? I see names and 
>>> something that looks like 3 degrees.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 "digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal 
 translation is "I meant to say"

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez  
 wrote:

> Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps 
> "known as."
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the 
>> left middle: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html
>>
>> I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states 
>> his age, but I can'r read it.
>>
>> Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?
>>
>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
>>> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
>>> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>>>
>>> .having of age
>>> 70 years a little more or less..
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html

 It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was 
 married to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before 
 the 
 name of I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco 
 Dutra 
 d'Andrade was her husband or father?

 IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. 
 Can someone confirm?

 There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Many times I just see the word "outro."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade <
> andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for 
>> the future.
>>
>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think proper translation would be "another of the 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-15 Thread bsei2816
I'm not completely sure on this, but this is what I think it is:

31 Jan 1777
Groom: José Dutra da Andrade, son of Manuel Dutra da Andrade and his wife 
Theresa Rosa da Silveira (Silv.ra)
Bride: Ignacia Maria da Silveira (Silv.ra), daughter of Francisco Dutra de 
Leyte and his second (seg.da) wife Maria Goulart (Gl.te), both parents 
deceased.
Dispensation for 3rd degree consanguinity.  I'm aparently confused on these 
degrees again because I thought 3rd degree would make them second cousins.

Bill Seidler

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes, 3rd degree is 2nd cousins. I may have said it backwards earlier today.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-15 Thread Cheri Mello
Yes 31 Jan 1787

The bride's parents are deceased. I can't figure out the names either.
Maybe when the sun comes out I can see the screen better.

I think it says the bride and groom were baptized at that parish.

3rd degree of consanguinity. So 4th cousins. IF the dispensation still
exists (some do and some don't) you can hire Joao Ventura the archivist to
look for you. Email him for his current fees. heroi99 at yahoo.com

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Sean Andrade 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have another marriage record from Capelo I need help with on the bottom
> right.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P102.html
>
> I believe the year is 1787, can someone confirm?
>
> I can make out Jose Dutra's parents names.
>
> Ignacia Maria's father looks like Francisco Dutra da  and Mother
> looks like ___ Maria __
>
> Does it mention where all four parents are from?
>
> What does it say in the bottom half of the record? I see names and
> something that looks like 3 degrees.
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> "digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal
>> translation is "I meant to say"
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps "known
>>> as."
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the
 left middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html

 I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states
 his age, but I can'r read it.

 Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>
> .having of age
> 70 years a little more or less..
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html
>>
>> It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was
>> married to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before 
>> the
>> name of I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra
>> d'Andrade was her husband or father?
>>
>> IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can
>> someone confirm?
>>
>> There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?
>>
>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Many times I just see the word "outro."
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade >> > wrote:
>>>
 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for
 the future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>> outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira
>> das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade <
>> andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco
>>> Dutra d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
>>> 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-15 Thread Margaret Vicente
Jose Dutra de Andrade son of Manuel Dutra de Andrade and of his wife Teresa
Rosa da Silveira

Naturals of this Parish of which they are parishioners.


On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Sean Andrade 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have another marriage record from Capelo I need help with on the bottom
> right.
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P102.html
>
> I believe the year is 1787, can someone confirm?
>
> I can make out Jose Dutra's parents names.
>
> Ignacia Maria's father looks like Francisco Dutra da  and Mother
> looks like ___ Maria __
>
> Does it mention where all four parents are from?
>
> What does it say in the bottom half of the record? I see names and
> something that looks like 3 degrees.
>
>
>
> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> "digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal
>> translation is "I meant to say"
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps "known
>>> as."
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the
 left middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html

 I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states
 his age, but I can'r read it.

 Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>
> .having of age
> 70 years a little more or less..
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html
>>
>> It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was
>> married to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before 
>> the
>> name of I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra
>> d'Andrade was her husband or father?
>>
>> IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can
>> someone confirm?
>>
>> There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?
>>
>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Many times I just see the word "outro."
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade >> > wrote:
>>>
 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for
 the future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello 
> wrote:
>
>> outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira
>> das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade <
>> andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco
>>> Dutra d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html
>>>
>>> The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the
>>> rest. What does it say and mean?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello
>>> wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it
 will 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-15 Thread Cheri Mello
I'd like to make the bride's dad a Silveira, but the abbreviation just
doesn't look right. As for the bride's mom, I lean towards Maria Goncalves
(Gl...), but the hook from the line below is reaching up and I can't be
certain if it belongs to the name or the line below. Looks like a raised
.te on the bride's mom's surname though. Doesn't make sense for Goncalves.
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Jose Dutra de Andrade son of Manuel Dutra de Andrade and of his wife
> Teresa Rosa da Silveira
>
> Naturals of this Parish of which they are parishioners.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:53 AM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have another marriage record from Capelo I need help with on the bottom
>> right.
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P102.html
>>
>> I believe the year is 1787, can someone confirm?
>>
>> I can make out Jose Dutra's parents names.
>>
>> Ignacia Maria's father looks like Francisco Dutra da  and Mother
>> looks like ___ Maria __
>>
>> Does it mention where all four parents are from?
>>
>> What does it say in the bottom half of the record? I see names and
>> something that looks like 3 degrees.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> "digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal
>>> translation is "I meant to say"
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps "known
 as."

 On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade 
 wrote:

>
> Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the
> left middle:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html
>
> I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states
> his age, but I can'r read it.
>
> Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
>> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
>> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>>
>> .having of age
>> 70 years a little more or less..
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html
>>>
>>> It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was
>>> married to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before 
>>> the
>>> name of I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra
>>> d'Andrade was her husband or father?
>>>
>>> IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere.
>>> Can someone confirm?
>>>
>>> There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Many times I just see the word "outro."

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade <
 andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for
> the future.
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira
>> das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira
>>> das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-09-14 Thread Sean Andrade
Hi,

I have another marriage record from Capelo I need help with on the bottom 
right. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1736-1816_item1/P102.html

I believe the year is 1787, can someone confirm?

I can make out Jose Dutra's parents names.

Ignacia Maria's father looks like Francisco Dutra da  and Mother 
looks like ___ Maria __

Does it mention where all four parents are from?

What does it say in the bottom half of the record? I see names and 
something that looks like 3 degrees.



On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 10:06:32 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> "digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal 
> translation is "I meant to say"
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez  > wrote:
>
>> Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps "known 
>> as."
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade > > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the left 
>>> middle: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html
>>>
>>> I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states 
>>> his age, but I can'r read it.
>>>
>>> Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
 (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
 setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.

 .having of age
 70 years a little more or less..

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade  
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html
>
> It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was 
> married to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before 
> the 
> name of I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra 
> d'Andrade was her husband or father?
>
> IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can 
> someone confirm?
>
> There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Many times I just see the word "outro."
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the 
>>> future.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello  
 wrote:

> outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade <
> andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco 
>> Dutra d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html
>>
>> The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the 
>> rest. What does it say and mean?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it 
>>> will be the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it 
>>> out. 
>>> Depends on how many people from her family lineage test.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira 
>>> das 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread Sean Andrade

Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the left 
middle: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html

I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states his 
age, but I can'r read it.

Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>
> .having of age
> 70 years a little more or less..
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html
>>
>> It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married 
>> to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of 
>> I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade 
>> was her husband or father?
>>
>> IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can 
>> someone confirm?
>>
>> There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?
>>
>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Many times I just see the word "outro."
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the 
 future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello  
> wrote:
>
>> outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra 
>>> d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html
>>>
>>> The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest. 
>>> What does it say and mean?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will 
 be the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. 
 Depends 
 on how many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade <
 andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks! I guess with father unknown then her line will end there.
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread linda
Hi Sean,

Here's a quick transcription of the record:

Fran.co

1 filho de Fran.co Dutra de Andrad e de Sua M.er Eugenia

2 Maria, digo Thomasia n.es fregueses desta P.al de S[an].a

3 Trindade lugar do Capello, Faleceo da vida presente em

4 vinte Sete de Desembro de mil oito centos trin

5 ta e tres, e foi Sepultada em vinte e oito tendo de idade

6 des dias foi [em comendado] pelo [Seo] R.do [Parochoe]

7 para Constar fis este termo era ut Supra.

[??]Vigario Fran.co de Serpa Baptista

Brackets indicate where I'm more uncertain of the transliteration.

The mother's name was Eugenia Thomasia.  "digo" ("I mean to say") indicates 
that the priest made an error and is correcting it. 

"n.es fregueses desta P.al de S[an].a Trindade lugar do Capello" refers to 
the parents-- i.e., that they are natives and residents of this Parish of 
Santa Trindade do Capello.

The baby was ten days old.

I'd welcome corrections, if anyone sees errors.

Linda







On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 1:49:25 PM UTC-7, Sean Andrade wrote:

>
> Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the left 
> middle: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html
>
> I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states his 
> age, but I can'r read it.
>
> Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
>> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
>> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>>
>> .having of age
>> 70 years a little more or less..
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right: 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html
>>>
>>> It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married 
>>> to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of 
>>> I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade 
>>> was her husband or father?
>>>
>>> IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can 
>>> someone confirm?
>>>
>>> There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Many times I just see the word "outro."

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade  
 wrote:

> Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the 
> future.
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra 
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the 
 rest. What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello 
 wrote:
>
> Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will 
> be the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. 
> Depends 
> on how many people from her family lineage test.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade <
> andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I guess with father unknown then her line will end there.
>>
>> --
>> For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread Cheri Mello
"digo" is similar to "whoops, I made a mistake." I think the literal
translation is "I meant to say"

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:17 PM, Sandra Perez 
wrote:

> Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps "known
> as."
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the left
>> middle:
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html
>>
>> I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states his
>> age, but I can'r read it.
>>
>> Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?
>>
>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
>>> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
>>> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>>>
>>> .having of age
>>> 70 years a little more or less..
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html

 It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married
 to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of
 I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade
 was her husband or father?

 IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can
 someone confirm?

 There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Many times I just see the word "outro."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the
>> future.
>>
>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade <
 andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco
> Dutra d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html
>
> The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the
> rest. What does it say and mean?
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello
> wrote:
>>
>> Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will
>> be the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. 
>> Depends
>> on how many people from her family lineage test.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira
>> das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade <
>> andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks! I guess with father unknown then her line will end there.
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-31 Thread Sandra Perez
Eugenia Maria digo ThomasiaNot sure what digo means. Perhaps "known as."

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Sean Andrade 
wrote:

>
> Can someone help me with this death record for for Francisco on the left
> middle:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P50.html
>
> I am having trouble with the mom's name. It also looks like it states his
> age, but I can'r read it.
>
> Does it say the parents are also from Capelo?
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 6:54:22 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> 6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
>> (towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
>> setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.
>>
>> .having of age
>> 70 years a little more or less..
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right:
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html
>>>
>>> It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married
>>> to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of
>>> I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade
>>> was her husband or father?
>>>
>>> IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can
>>> someone confirm?
>>>
>>> There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Many times I just see the word "outro."

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade 
 wrote:

> Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the
> future.
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> I think proper translation would be "another of the same name."
>>
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>> Tainhas, Achada
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.
>>>
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
>>> Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the
 rest. What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello
 wrote:
>
> Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will
> be the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. 
> Depends
> on how many people from her family lineage test.
>
> Cheri
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade <
> andrade...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I guess with father unknown then her line will end there.
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Cheri Mello
6th line from bottom (I'm not counting the signature line)
(towards end of that 6th line)tendo de idade
setenta annos pouco mais ou menos.

.having of age
70 years a little more or less..

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html

 It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married
 to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of
 I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade
 was her husband or father?

 IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can
 someone confirm?

 There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Many times I just see the word outro.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the
 future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 I think proper translation would be another of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest.
 What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be
 the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. 
 Depends on
 how many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Thanks! I guess with father unknown then her line will end there.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Sean Andrade
Hi,

Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra 
d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right 
middle: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest. What 
does it say and mean?

On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be the 
 end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. Depends on how 
 many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Thanks! I guess with father unknown then her line will end there.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Cheri Mello
I think proper translation would be another of the same name.

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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
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 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest. What
 does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be the
 end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. Depends on how
 many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Cheri Mello
outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

Cheri Mello
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest. What
 does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be the
 end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. Depends on how
 many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Sean Andrade
Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the future.

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 I think proper translation would be another of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
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 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra 
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest. 
 What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be 
 the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. Depends 
 on 
 how many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
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 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Cheri Mello
Many times I just see the word outro.

Cheri Mello
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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the
 future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 I think proper translation would be another of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote:

 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest.
 What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be
 the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. Depends 
 on
 how many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Sean Andrade
Hi,

Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom 
right: 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html

It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married to. 
But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of I am 
assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade was 
her husband or father?

IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can 
someone confirm?

There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Many times I just see the word outro.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the 
 future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 I think proper translation would be another of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com wrote:

 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra 
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest. 
 What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be 
 the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. Depends 
 on 
 how many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Sean, it's 'va' which is viuva (widow) of Francisco Dutra d'Andrade. It's
the 17 Apr 1836. Sorry, I don't read an age.


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On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade andrade.d.s...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html

 It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married
 to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of
 I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade
 was her husband or father?

 IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can
 someone confirm?

 There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Many times I just see the word outro.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the
 future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 I think proper translation would be another of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle:
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest.
 What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be
 the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. 
 Depends on
 how many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
 Tainhas, Achada

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com
  wrote:

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-28 Thread Sean Andrade
Thanks!

On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 3:21:50 PM UTC-7, rcapodc wrote:

 Sean, it's 'va' which is viuva (widow) of Francisco Dutra d'Andrade. It's 
 the 17 Apr 1836. Sorry, I don't read an age. 


 Rosemarie 
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 Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
 Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is an Obit for Rosa Marie on the bottom right: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-O-1792-1836_item1/P68.html

 It looks like they are doing Obits by saying who the person was married 
 to. But of course for this one there is only one letter before the name of 
 I am assuming is her husband. Does it look like Francisco Dutra d'Andrade 
 was her husband or father?

 IT looks like this is for 1836, but i don't see her age anywhere. Can 
 someone confirm?

 There are also names at the bottom. Are those just witnesses?

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Many times I just see the word outro.

 Cheri Mello
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 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Thanks! That's the first time I have seen that so now I know for the 
 future.

 On Friday, August 28, 2015 at 11:16:00 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 I think proper translation would be another of the same name.

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 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Cheri Mello gfsc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 outro de mesmo nome.of the same name.

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 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Sean Andrade andrade...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Here is another marriage record from Capelo between Francisco Dutra 
 d'Andrade and Inacia Luisa. It starts on the right middle: 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836/FAL-HT-CAPELO-C-1818-1836_item1/P44.html

 The father for Francisco says outro do __ I can't read the rest. 
 What does it say and mean?

 On Thursday, August 27, 2015 at 11:43:04 AM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will 
 be the end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. 
 Depends 
 on how many people from her family lineage test.

 Cheri

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 Thanks! I guess with father unknown then her line will end there.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-27 Thread Cheri Mello
Unless he comes forward and states he is the father, then it will be the
end of the line for now. DNA testing may help figure it out. Depends on how
many people from her family lineage test.

Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage Record Capelo

2015-08-26 Thread Cheri Mello
I think the date is 10 Feb 1808.

Groom son of Antonio Francisco da Costa, absent, and Rita Jacinta, natives
de something Santa Catarina place of Castelo Branco

Bride dau. of father unknown and Catarina Dutra natives both of the
freguesia something same something of Capelo

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On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Lee shorts...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 Sean

 Grooms surname/. Second name is da Costa filho of Antonio Francisco da
 Costa (deceased) and Rita Jacinta

 Bride is the daughter of pai incognito (unknown father) and Catarina Dutra.

 The year is 1816, can't make out the day I'd month.

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