Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Below is the marriage for Antonio MIguel Furtado and Maria Rosario from my post above which they married on 22 Aug 1895 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899_item1/P21.html On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Todd, This is where it gets weird. After my Salt Lake Conference, I have about 8 researchers willing to work on a standardization for us. We are all over the place. You initially posted with freguesia, island, region, country: Antonio Miguel Furtado Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Marriage to Maria do Rosario Luiz: 1896 about Age: 23, Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Maria do Rosario Luiz Birth 1875 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT == BUT, that freguesia has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Then Shirley codes everything and doesn't use the full church name. I don't know how you would ascertain which church. I'd need to see the record that lists Antonio Miguel Furtado and Maria do Rosaris Luiz. I'm guessing it was someone's baptism. In the meantime, I'll just have to pretend you somehow know the church is Sao Miguel Arcanjo. 1) Go to the CCA: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ 2) Point the fingertip at the council of Vila Franca and left click once. 3) Next page should have Ilha: Sao Miguel and Concelho: Vila Franco do Campo filled in. If it doesn't, change it. Then from the drop down, chose Matriz de Sao Miguel (even though those words never appear anywhere in the church records of Sao Miguel Arcanjo). Click the round Casamento button and then finally click Procurar. 4) Scroll down if necessary to where you see the years containing 1896. So that's the 1895-1899 link. Click Ver (to see) to see it. 5) You are in luck these are grouped by years. Start at page 1 of 1896 looking for Antonio Miguel Furtado and Maria do Rosario. Good luck! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Hi Cheri, That 'freguesia' certainly does NOT have two churches. In Vila Franca (town) there are the following freguesias: - São Miguel, VFC (Freguesia); Vila Franca do Campo (Concelho/Municipality); São Miguel (Island); Açores (Region); Portugal (Country)*: http://tombo.pt/f/vfc03 - São Pedro, VFC (Freguesia); Vila Franca do Campo (Concelho/Municipality); São Miguel (Island); Açores (Region); Portugal (Country)*: http://tombo.pt/f/vfc04 There are others freguesias in that concelho, but they correspond to other villages. I know that this can be confusing, and indeed in the CCA there are actually books from multiple churches in the same freguesia: - Ginetes, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel, Açores: http://tombo.pt/f/pdl09 - notice the three 1904-1911 books for Varzea (this one shows up in the CCA is a distinct freguesia - but it never was) - Santa Cruz, Praia da Vitória, Terceira: http://tombo.pt/f/vpv08 - this one is harder, but there's a couple of burial books for 'Casa da Ribeira', see 1695-1759 and 1813-1833 (CCA hides these books under the main freguesia). Except for the exceptions (which should indeed be noted), in the Azores up to now it is sufficient to indicate the freguesia (NOT the town), concelho and island. Of course we could then go into the dillemma of using the patron saint/church name or the 'civil parish' name. That, I leave as an exercise to the reader, as not even the CCA seems to be following a uniform system there. Regards, João Ventura http://tombo.pt/en *Refer to the recent Cosmos series for the rest of the cosmic address. On Thursday, 27 March 2014 06:20:05 UTC+1, Cheri Mello wrote: Todd, This is where it gets weird. After my Salt Lake Conference, I have about 8 researchers willing to work on a standardization for us. We are all over the place. You initially posted with freguesia, island, region, country: Antonio Miguel Furtado Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Marriage to Maria do Rosario Luiz: 1896 about Age: 23, Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Maria do Rosario Luiz Birth 1875 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT == BUT, that freguesia has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Then Shirley codes everything and doesn't use the full church name. I don't know how you would ascertain which church. I'd need to see the record that lists Antonio Miguel Furtado and Maria do Rosaris Luiz. I'm guessing it was someone's baptism. In the meantime, I'll just have to pretend you somehow know the church is Sao Miguel Arcanjo. 1) Go to the CCA: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ 2) Point the fingertip at the council of Vila Franca and left click once. 3) Next page should have Ilha: Sao Miguel and Concelho: Vila Franco do Campo filled in. If it doesn't, change it. Then from the drop down, chose Matriz de Sao Miguel (even though those words never appear anywhere in the church records of Sao Miguel Arcanjo). Click the round Casamento button and then finally click Procurar. 4) Scroll down if necessary to where you see the years containing 1896. So that's the 1895-1899 link. Click Ver (to see) to see it. 5) You are in luck these are grouped by years. Start at page 1 of 1896 looking for Antonio Miguel Furtado and Maria do Rosario. Good luck! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Thanks Pam. You related to the Santos in North Plymouth? Todd On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: The link to marriage is in my post it's in SM Vila Franca do campo On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the Glossary and the translation. What *Freguesia *was it? São Pedro? I know it was São Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo correct? I want to find this record myself. Sorry for so many questions... Todd On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: Hi all: This is how I read that marriage: DOM 22 August 1895, SM-VFDC Item 21, page 19 R Antonio Miguel Furtado, single, age 24, native, resident, baptised this freguesia. (Jose Miguel Furtado, fisherman, native Sao Paulo- Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores X Anna de Jesus, domestic/housewife, native this freguesia) SPOUSE Maria do Rosario, single, age 20, (Manoel Luis X Maria de Jesus), natives this freguesia Next page: TESTIMONY Vicente d'AndradeJulio de Pimentel, all married, workers, and residents of this freguesia. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Pam Santos *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation The dates are written out Here is your marriage right page. married on 22 Aug 1895 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899_item1/P21.html On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.comwrote: How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Your welcome. I am not sure I have not tracked down the siblings of my kids ancestor who migrated to Hawaii. He was from SM Vila Franca do Campo. I have had on another line where two siblings came to hawaii and the other four went to Massachusettes. Eventually will see where the siblings ended up at. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 6:32 AM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Pam. You related to the Santos in North Plymouth? Todd On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: The link to marriage is in my post it's in SM Vila Franca do campo On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the Glossary and the translation. What *Freguesia *was it? São Pedro? I know it was São Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo correct? I want to find this record myself. Sorry for so many questions... Todd On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net wrote: Hi all: This is how I read that marriage: DOM 22 August 1895, SM-VFDC Item 21, page 19 R Antonio Miguel Furtado, single, age 24, native, resident, baptised this freguesia. (Jose Miguel Furtado, fisherman, native Sao Paulo- Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores X Anna de Jesus, domestic/housewife, native this freguesia) SPOUSE Maria do Rosario, single, age 20, (Manoel Luis X Maria de Jesus), natives this freguesia Next page: TESTIMONY Vicente d'AndradeJulio de Pimentel, all married, workers, and residents of this freguesia. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Pam Santos *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation The dates are written out Here is your marriage right page. married on 22 Aug 1895 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899_item1/P21.html On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.comwrote: How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Thanks for the Glossary and the translation. What *Freguesia *was it? São Pedro? I know it was São Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo correct? I want to find this record myself. Sorry for so many questions... Todd On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: Hi all: This is how I read that marriage: DOM 22 August 1895, SM-VFDC Item 21, page 19 R Antonio Miguel Furtado, single, age 24, native, resident, baptised this freguesia. (Jose Miguel Furtado, fisherman, native Sao Paulo- Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores X Anna de Jesus, domestic/housewife, native this freguesia) SPOUSE Maria do Rosario, single, age 20, (Manoel Luis X Maria de Jesus), natives this freguesia Next page: TESTIMONY Vicente d'AndradeJulio de Pimentel, all married, workers, and residents of this freguesia. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation The dates are written out Here is your marriage right page. married on 22 Aug 1895 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899_item1/P21.html On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
The link to marriage is in my post it's in SM Vila Franca do campo On Wednesday, March 26, 2014, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the Glossary and the translation. What *Freguesia *was it? São Pedro? I know it was São Miguel, Vila Franca do Campo correct? I want to find this record myself. Sorry for so many questions... Todd On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.netwrote: Hi all: This is how I read that marriage: DOM 22 August x-apple-data-detectors://5 1895, SM-VFDC Item 21, page 19 R Antonio Miguel Furtado, single, age 24, native, resident, baptised this freguesia. (Jose Miguel Furtado, fisherman, native Sao Paulo- Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores X Anna de Jesus, domestic/housewife, native this freguesia) SPOUSE Maria do Rosario, single, age 20, (Manoel Luis X Maria de Jesus), natives this freguesia Next page: TESTIMONY Vicente d'AndradeJulio de Pimentel, all married, workers, and residents of this freguesia. Shirley in CA - Original Message - *From:* Pam Santos *To:* azores@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation The dates are written out Here is your marriage right page. married on 22 Augx-apple-data-detectors://81895 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899_item1/P21.html On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.comwrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Todd, This is where it gets weird. After my Salt Lake Conference, I have about 8 researchers willing to work on a standardization for us. We are all over the place. You initially posted with freguesia, island, region, country: Antonio Miguel Furtado Birth 1873 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Marriage to Maria do Rosario Luiz: 1896 about Age: 23, Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT Maria do Rosario Luiz Birth 1875 in Vila Franca do Campo, São Miguel, Açores, PT == BUT, that freguesia has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Then Shirley codes everything and doesn't use the full church name. I don't know how you would ascertain which church. I'd need to see the record that lists Antonio Miguel Furtado and Maria do Rosaris Luiz. I'm guessing it was someone's baptism. In the meantime, I'll just have to pretend you somehow know the church is Sao Miguel Arcanjo. 1) Go to the CCA: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/ 2) Point the fingertip at the council of Vila Franca and left click once. 3) Next page should have Ilha: Sao Miguel and Concelho: Vila Franco do Campo filled in. If it doesn't, change it. Then from the drop down, chose Matriz de Sao Miguel (even though those words never appear anywhere in the church records of Sao Miguel Arcanjo). Click the round Casamento button and then finally click Procurar. 4) Scroll down if necessary to where you see the years containing 1896. So that's the 1895-1899 link. Click Ver (to see) to see it. 5) You are in luck these are grouped by years. Start at page 1 of 1896 looking for Antonio Miguel Furtado and Maria do Rosario. Good luck! Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
The dates are written out Here is your marriage right page. married on 22 Aug 1895 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899_item1/P21.html On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Yes, they are written out longhand. Every once in a while though, you'll find a priest that will write 1809 at the beginning of those records. mil = 1000 novocentos = 900 oitocentos = 800 noventa = 90 oitenta = 80 setenta = 70 sesenta = 60 cinquenta = 50 quarenta = 40 trinta = 30 vinte = 20 For a complete list, go to the Azores Genweb and click on the first link: http://goo.gl/mWi4rq I think the numbers are on the last page or 2nd to the last page. The numbers seem to be the last thing that people get. And it doesn't help that oitocentos can be written as oito centos. Or oi tocentos. Depends on when they went back to dip the pen in the ink. And 50 can be spelled or rather, misspelled so many ways. It takes some practice and a lot of patience to get it, but you will get it. We plan on spending lots of time helping people with the handwriting at our conference. Good luck, Cheri On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Hi all: This is how I read that marriage: DOM 22 August 1895, SM-VFDC Item 21, page 19 R Antonio Miguel Furtado, single, age 24, native, resident, baptised this freguesia. (Jose Miguel Furtado, fisherman, native Sao Paulo- Ribeira Quente, Sao Miguel, Azores X Anna de Jesus, domestic/housewife, native this freguesia) SPOUSE Maria do Rosario, single, age 20, (Manoel Luis X Maria de Jesus), natives this freguesia Next page: TESTIMONY Vicente d'AndradeJulio de Pimentel, all married, workers, and residents of this freguesia. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Pam Santos To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation The dates are written out Here is your marriage right page. married on 22 Aug 1895 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1895-1899_item1/P21.html On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:14 PM, brownat68 . browna...@gmail.com wrote: How do you read the dates on the pages, they must be written in longhand? If I could read the years I could find them a lot easier. Todd On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/azores/l-6pITESPSs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Marriage record finding and translation
Todd, No, not the right record. The groom was a Andrade. Vila Franca has 2 churches: Sao Miguel Arcanjo and Sao Pedro. Which church? Since you're my cousin, go back and duplicate some of my research. For example, look for Victorino de Mello and Maria Joaquina (or whatever name she married under). See if you can find that record and post it. Find a few others. Then jump into the unchartered territory. You'll be surprised at how much your reading has increased. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
