Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Confession Rolls: José Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca

2017-08-26 Thread Eric Souza 
This group is the best. Thanks for going over this with me. I also wondered 
about the Mancebo (which was passed down through generations to my 
great-grandmother, Mary Catan Mancebo in Sausalito, CA) and the Mendonca. 
The investigation continues ...

- Eric


On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 5:32:52 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> You're welcome.  Yes, that's what it says.  It looks like the Godparents 
> are related to the Mom as well.
>
> Eric, in case you haven't noticed the Rol/Census also shows Aside from 
> Antonio a few more grandchildren; Margarida, Jose and Teresa.  
>
> Also there is a name differentiation Mancebo in the birth record v/s 
> Mendonca in the Census that should be tracked.
>
> Take care,
> Margaret
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Eric Souza  > wrote:
>
>> Thank you!! Don't know how I missed that. I'd been focusing too much on 
>> the 1822 records ...
>>
>> Looks like filha de Francisco Texeira Mancebo and Rosa Josefa?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 4:33:04 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> Have look, Antonio, bottom left
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842_item1/P5.html
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Eric Souza  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Through FamilySearch, I have possibly found a continuation of my 
 António Caetano de Azevedo line. FamilySearch shows him as the son of José 
 Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca, though previously I had 
 only 
 seen Antonio as son of Maria Jesus and Pai Incognito.

 I looked through the new Ribeira Seca confessional rolls, and found 
 this, with what looks to be Antonio and his mother, Maria Jesus ... looks 
 like this would be António's family. There is a reference to José Machado 
 Gomes living with them ... possibly father?

 Then I found this marriage record, with help from the marriage index 
 (top right):

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849_item1/P86.html

 *18 Jun 1836*
 *Jose Gomes de Azevedo*
 *fillo de Manuel Gomes and of Rosa de Santa Antonio*


 Maria de Jesus, fa de Francisco ?Texeira Machado? e Rosa Jose?

 Can you guys give me extra sets of eyes?

 Finally, I don't know where these dates came from, because I can't find 
 his baptism record, but I have Antonio's birthdate as 22 Feb 1822, while 
 FamilySearch has it as 7 Feb 1820. Finding neither, though probably just 
 overlooking ...

 Thanks!

 - Eric

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Confession Rolls: José Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca

2017-08-26 Thread Eric Souza 
Yes, page 70 of the 1839 rolls shows José Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus 
with Margarida and Jose, but without Antonio (who was 18 by then?) and 
without their youngest, Teresa ... would definitely be interested in seeing 
the '44. Holy cow, there's so much data out there that I don't have!


On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 6:37:41 PM UTC-7, Jeremy G. B-C: 
Researching Sao Jorge wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Since you seem to be using the 1832 Roll, have you checked the 1839 one 
> too?
>
> I'll have to dig up the othe Ribeira Seca Confessional Rolls and have 
> Kathy put them online too. I might have like an 1844 or something like 
> that. 
>  
> So glad that you are finding them, and the marriage index to be helpful.
>
> JEREMY
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Confession Rolls: José Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca

2017-08-26 Thread 'Jeremy G. B-C: Researching Sao Jorge' via Azores Genealogy 

Hello,

Since you seem to be using the 1832 Roll, have you checked the 1839 one too?

I'll have to dig up the othe Ribeira Seca Confessional Rolls and have Kathy 
put them online too. I might have like an 1844 or something like that. 
 
So glad that you are finding them, and the marriage index to be helpful.

JEREMY

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Confession Rolls: José Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca

2017-08-26 Thread Margaret Vicente 
You're welcome.  Yes, that's what it says.  It looks like the Godparents
are related to the Mom as well.

Eric, in case you haven't noticed the Rol/Census also shows Aside from
Antonio a few more grandchildren; Margarida, Jose and Teresa.

Also there is a name differentiation Mancebo in the birth record v/s
Mendonca in the Census that should be tracked.

Take care,
Margaret


On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> Thank you!! Don't know how I missed that. I'd been focusing too much on
> the 1822 records ...
>
> Looks like filha de Francisco Texeira Mancebo and Rosa Josefa?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 4:33:04 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Have look, Antonio, bottom left
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>> RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842_item1/P5.html
>>
>> Margaret
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Eric Souza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Through FamilySearch, I have possibly found a continuation of my António
>>> Caetano de Azevedo line. FamilySearch shows him as the son of José Machado
>>> Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca, though previously I had only seen
>>> Antonio as son of Maria Jesus and Pai Incognito.
>>>
>>> I looked through the new Ribeira Seca confessional rolls, and found
>>> this, with what looks to be Antonio and his mother, Maria Jesus ... looks
>>> like this would be António's family. There is a reference to José Machado
>>> Gomes living with them ... possibly father?
>>>
>>> Then I found this marriage record, with help from the marriage index
>>> (top right):
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-
>>> RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849_item1/P86.html
>>>
>>> *18 Jun 1836*
>>> *Jose Gomes de Azevedo*
>>> *fillo de Manuel Gomes and of Rosa de Santa Antonio*
>>>
>>>
>>> Maria de Jesus, fa de Francisco ?Texeira Machado? e Rosa Jose?
>>>
>>> Can you guys give me extra sets of eyes?
>>>
>>> Finally, I don't know where these dates came from, because I can't find
>>> his baptism record, but I have Antonio's birthdate as 22 Feb 1822, while
>>> FamilySearch has it as 7 Feb 1820. Finding neither, though probably just
>>> overlooking ...
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Eric
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Confession Rolls: José Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca

2017-08-26 Thread Eric Souza 
Thank you!! Don't know how I missed that. I'd been focusing too much on the 
1822 records ...

Looks like filha de Francisco Texeira Mancebo and Rosa Josefa?

Thanks,
Eric


On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 4:33:04 PM UTC-7, Mara wrote:
>
> Eric,
>
> Have look, Antonio, bottom left
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842_item1/P5.html
>
> Margaret
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Eric Souza  > wrote:
>
>> Through FamilySearch, I have possibly found a continuation of my António 
>> Caetano de Azevedo line. FamilySearch shows him as the son of José Machado 
>> Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca, though previously I had only seen 
>> Antonio as son of Maria Jesus and Pai Incognito.
>>
>> I looked through the new Ribeira Seca confessional rolls, and found this, 
>> with what looks to be Antonio and his mother, Maria Jesus ... looks like 
>> this would be António's family. There is a reference to José Machado Gomes 
>> living with them ... possibly father?
>>
>> Then I found this marriage record, with help from the marriage index (top 
>> right):
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849_item1/P86.html
>>
>> *18 Jun 1836*
>> *Jose Gomes de Azevedo*
>> *fillo de Manuel Gomes and of Rosa de Santa Antonio*
>>
>>
>> Maria de Jesus, fa de Francisco ?Texeira Machado? e Rosa Jose?
>>
>> Can you guys give me extra sets of eyes?
>>
>> Finally, I don't know where these dates came from, because I can't find 
>> his baptism record, but I have Antonio's birthdate as 22 Feb 1822, while 
>> FamilySearch has it as 7 Feb 1820. Finding neither, though probably just 
>> overlooking ...
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> - Eric
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Seca Confession Rolls: José Machado Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca

2017-08-26 Thread Margaret Vicente 
Eric,

Have look, Antonio, bottom left

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-B-1820-1842_item1/P5.html

Margaret

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Eric Souza 
wrote:

> Through FamilySearch, I have possibly found a continuation of my António
> Caetano de Azevedo line. FamilySearch shows him as the son of José Machado
> Gomes and Maria Jesus in Ribeira Seca, though previously I had only seen
> Antonio as son of Maria Jesus and Pai Incognito.
>
> I looked through the new Ribeira Seca confessional rolls, and found this,
> with what looks to be Antonio and his mother, Maria Jesus ... looks like
> this would be António's family. There is a reference to José Machado Gomes
> living with them ... possibly father?
>
> Then I found this marriage record, with help from the marriage index (top
> right):
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-
> CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849/SJR-CH-RIBEIRASECA-C-1822-1849_item1/P86.html
>
> *18 Jun 1836*
> *Jose Gomes de Azevedo*
> *fillo de Manuel Gomes and of Rosa de Santa Antonio*
>
>
> Maria de Jesus, fa de Francisco ?Texeira Machado? e Rosa Jose?
>
> Can you guys give me extra sets of eyes?
>
> Finally, I don't know where these dates came from, because I can't find
> his baptism record, but I have Antonio's birthdate as 22 Feb 1822, while
> FamilySearch has it as 7 Feb 1820. Finding neither, though probably just
> overlooking ...
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Eric
>
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