RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Conceição,_Horta_records_online
The CCA tells me they have already had the idea to contact the Mormons in order to have the microfilms scanned for their purposes, but they are having trouble making contact.I believe there are some LDS people on this list who might be able to facilitate the CCA making the right contacts to get this accomplished.So if anyone knows the right contacts at the LDS and can send me their emails privately, I will pass on the information immediately to the right CCA people.Obrigado,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Conceição,_Horta_records_online From: p...@dholmes.com Date: Fri, November 15, 2013 8:23 am To: azores@googlegroups.com I asked the CCA why they haven't yet uploaded the rest of the records for Conceição, Horta and got this terrible news: The early baptisms and marriages records of Conceição, Horta, were not scanned because of its bad condition caused by the use of the ink ferrogálica, as we say in Portuguese. This ink destroyed the paper. I gave them the idea, in case they hadn't yet thought of it themselves, that they can scan the Mormon microfilms at least to have something online.So until they do something else about it, the earliest records for Conceição are only available on LDS film. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Conceição, Horta records online
Hi Doug, You mean the ones listed here: https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/381603 ? Batismos 1750-1881 Family History Library International Film 1330078 Batismos 1882-1890 Reconhecimentos de filiação 1876-1898 Family History Library International Film 1330079 Item 1 Casamentos 1705-1874 Family History Library International Film 1330079 Items 2-3 Óbitos 1724-1866 Family History Library International Film 1330079 Items 4-5 The only difference between this list and the one on CCA is that there's a marriages span between 1705-1840 that hasn't been made available. They might be referring to even earlier birth records. From my snapshot of their catalogue, the ones missing are: Births: 1705-1750 (NOT in the film) Marriages: 1705-1840 (this is indeed in the LDS microfilm) I believe they're referring to these two books, and their special digitization needs. Let's hope for the best on those... João C. Ventura On Friday, November 15, 2013 4:23:03 PM UTC+1, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: I asked the CCA why they haven't yet uploaded the rest of the records for Conceição, Horta and got this terrible news: The early baptisms and marriages records of Conceição, Horta, were not scanned because of its bad condition caused by the use of the ink ferrogálica, as we say in Portuguese. This ink destroyed the paper. I gave them the idea, in case they hadn't yet thought of it themselves, that they can scan the Mormon microfilms at least to have something online. So until they do something else about it, the earliest records for Conceição are only available on LDS film. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Note in margin could be death date or clue to what happened
Okay, so that would account for why I couldn't find it in the obituary of Relva or Sao Jose. It did say she was interred in Santa Casa de misericordia so I don't think I'll find it. Another lister said that was a hospital. Thank you for enlightening me n that. On Thursday, November 14, 2013, Richard Francis Pimentel wrote: The date is not a death date. Most likely for some reason their marriage was not fully accepted until after Easter when they had completed their Easter Duty would be my guess. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com javascript:; [mailto: azores@googlegroups.com javascript:;] On Behalf Of Maria Lima Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:05 PM To: AZORES Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Note in margin could be death date or clue to what happened ( I forgot link in previous email) On the left hand side is the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza February 1765. Does the note in the margin give any indication of franciscas death. (I knew he remarried. )There are a couple of words before the date. I guess if that is the death date, then they were only married 3 months. Wow! Sad. I thought it says he's from the parish of Ns das Neves. But it mentions Riveiro Grande and I'm wondering if I'm missing some important clue. (?) Here's a case I learned about on this list regarding no rhyme or reason to last names. His name was Antonio de Lima but his father was Manoel de Souza and his mother was Izabel de Lima. So he took her name. (Eventually the De Lima name was kept.) maybe I'm getting back far enough that I'll connect with someone. Thanks for your help Maria Elena Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza marriage http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-178 0/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Sent from my iPad -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Conceição,_Horta_records_on line
No Doug, you can either give me Horta's contact or forget about it. On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:42 AM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Yes, Cheri. Of course. I have an email compiled and just ready to slap in the contact email, if anyone wants to give it to me privately. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Conceição,_Horta_records_on line From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Fri, November 15, 2013 10:38 am To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Doug, Being a member of the LDS church doesn't put you in automatic contact with FamilySearch. I have the contact information for FamilySearch. Can you send me the info privately off list and I'll put Horta in contact with FamilySearch. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Returned DNA kit
Cheri I have a distant cousin that was going to take the DNA test for me for my research. I bought a family finder test and had it sent to him. I just received a letter from him saying he had a change of heart and return the unopened kit to family tree. Is their a way I could have the kit sent to someone else to take the test ? Thanks Ed -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Returned DNA kit
Edward, Yes. Send me the kit number only off list to gfscherim at gmail.com On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Edward Rodrigues edward.s.rodrig...@att.net wrote: Cheri I have a distant cousin that was going to take the DNA test for me for my research. I bought a family finder test and had it sent to him. I just received a letter from him saying he had a change of heart and return the unopened kit to family tree. Is their a way I could have the kit sent to someone else to take the test ? Thanks Ed -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Conceição,_Horta_records_on line
OK. Thanks, anyway.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Conceição,_Horta_records_on line From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Fri, November 15, 2013 10:43 am To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com No Doug, you can either give me Horta's contact or forget about it. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Re:_Conceição,_Horta_records_on line
Hi Joao,I was just about to ask someone about this, because when I went to the LDS FHLC online I got to this page:https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotescolumns=*%2C0%2C0titleno=381603disp=Registros+paroquiais++And it gave me the same dates you just mentioned. However, I swear I remember using earlier Conceicao records of baptisms before 1700 that were on LDS films. I think they started about the 1670s time frame. But I don't have quick access to my notes that I compiled for all Azores records on LDS film. I might be confusing Conceicao with Angustias, come to think of it.If there are any Conceicao researchers who have quick access to the information, please let me know. In any case, at least we can expect to see the available casamentos you mentioned. One record of my ancestors are amongst those not yet posted.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]_Re:_Conceição,_Horta_records_on line From: João_Ventura j...@venturas.org Date: Fri, November 15, 2013 10:23 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Doug,You mean the ones listed here:https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/381603 ?Batismos 1750-1881 Family History Library International Film 1330078Batismos 1882-1890 Reconhecimentos de filiação 1876-1898 Family History Library International Film 1330079 Item 1Casamentos 1705-1874 Family History Library International Film 1330079 Items 2-3Óbitos 1724-1866 Family History Library International Film 1330079 Items 4-5The only difference between this list and the one on CCA is that there's a marriages span between 1705-1840 that hasn't been made available. They might be referring to even earlier birth records. From my snapshot of their catalogue, the ones missing are:Births: 1705-1750 (NOT in the film)Marriages: 1705-1840 (this is indeed in the LDS microfilm)I believe they're referring to these two books, and their special digitization needs. Let's hope for the best on those...João C. Ventura -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Horta passports
More good news.I asked the CCA about the status of the passports for the Horta district. This includes the islands of Corvo, Flores, Faial and Pico.When my brother was at the archive this past May, the director told him the passports would appear the following month. Well, that surely didn't happen.Here's what they just told me:About the passports books: all of them were already scanned. The Director of this Library asked in october 15th the permission of the Director Regional da Cultura to send the images to the Direção Regional da Cultura for publication. So, the decision is in their hands, not in ours.This might mean the backlog that is starting to clear for all the rest of the church records is then going to be followed by the Horta passports. Maybe also the Angra district passports, but I didn't ask about those.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Horta passports
Thanks for the info Doug. I really hope that they are getting ready to post Horta AND Angra! Rosemarie From: p...@dholmes.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:21 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Horta passports More good news. I asked the CCA about the status of the passports for the Horta district. This includes the islands of Corvo, Flores, Faial and Pico. When my brother was at the archive this past May, the director told him the passports would appear the following month. Well, that surely didn't happen. Here's what they just told me: About the passports books: all of them were already scanned. The Director of this Library asked in october 15th the permission of the Director Regional da Cultura to send the images to the Direção Regional da Cultura for publication. So, the decision is in their hands, not in ours. This might mean the backlog that is starting to clear for all the rest of the church records is then going to be followed by the Horta passports. Maybe also the Angra district passports, but I didn't ask about those. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ?
Doug Is you article Gateways to Royalty written in English or Portuguese? On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 11:43 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Hi Freddy, Maybe you got some private replies, but I know many people would love to have your luck in having some ancestors so well documented as to go back over a thousand years. You already got some help with the Minho website. Just verify each record as you go, because it's full of bad assumptions as to parentage, especially in some of the oldest generations on Faial in Cedros and places where they have only baptisms, but no marriages to support them. Some lines are just wishful thinking. John Raposo quoted some of your ancestry from the book by Forjaz and Mendes about the four islands in the Horta district. I don't know whether that has some additional links I haven't found myself. But much of that is also mentioned in an older nobility book about Faial families, called Familias Faialenses. That is available online these days - all in Portuguese, of course, but I believe you are fluent in that. For the oldest generations beyond the Azores, turn to Felgueiras Gayo, a genealogist from the 1700s, if I recall. He wrote many volumes on the noble families of Portugal and you can get back to all the European royalty there. It might also be online. But to answer your exact question, yes you have documented ancestral lines that go back to Guilherme da Silveira of Flanders (Willem van der Hagen). It comes from your Vilalobos line, that branches off to Marramaque and then to Willem vdH. If you follow your Peixoto lines, you will find they get back to some Kings of Aragon. On your Carvalho line, it goes back to more kings of Navarre, Leon and elsewhere. I once wrote an article called Gateways to Royalty and I think I have some additional specifics: www.dholmes.com/articles.html That will occupy at least the next 6 months of your free time. :-) Boa sorte. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618 www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ? From: Freddy Garcia fg.street...@gmail.com Date: Wed, November 13, 2013 4:38 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Trying to find the line with my Gr Gr Gr Grandfather Francisco da Silveira Villalobos born 19 April 1791 ancestor of King William I of England, and then there's is a possible connection with Willem van der Haegen , any help would be great, thanks, Freddy -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ?
Hi Marilyn,I am absolutely unqualified to write an article in the Portuguese language, though can do a passable job in reading it.It's only in English.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ? From: Marilyn Thompson mari...@jmtmlt.com Date: Fri, November 15, 2013 1:29 pm To: Cheri Mello azores@googlegroups.com DougIs you article "Gateways to Royalty" written in English or Portuguese? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ?
OK, Freddy.I'm answering through the list and John Raposo will see your thank you now.As to trusting GeneALL, it's like anything else. Don't trust them with your life, but use the information as a guideline and then try to track down where they got their sources. The good thing about them is they do quote sources, such as books used for the information. But they do have mistakes, too. Sometimes you get a conflicting connection but it's also because two books say two different things. In all cases, you must use judgement. I find it helpful to estimate dates of birth and marriage whenever possible with all these nobility books. They sometimes quote a date for a will or date when the king granted a favor. So you should pull out a reference showing all the kings of Portugal to see when they reigned and you will have a better idea when something happened. Sometimes they say someone participated in a certain famous battle, so then you look up the date of that battle to follow along and keep the time frame straight.As to the value to you in ordering the Quatro Ilhas books by Forjaz and Mendes, I can tell you that for me, they are valuable. But for you, I am not sure they would be. How many Flores and Corvo ancestors have you got? Maybe none. And aside from your Vilalobos and Peixoto lines from Faial, how many Faial families interest you? There are chapters that will have a few generations that contain your ancestors and maybe not much more than that. Paying all that for a few branches? Just depends on your interest level. And actually, I don't even know if they are still available. I got mine a few years ago when they were first published. And I had my friend in Lisboa make all the arrangements to avoid the same scam they pulled on me for their Terceira volumes that never arrived. I was taking no such chances like that again.Remember, most every fact they got from either another nobility book or manuscript that is available either by the CCA or elsewhere online. Most of your ancestors are beyond the records of the church. And those that you are able to document by church records are things you can do yourself and don't depend on what the book says. But there is also plenty of interesting new research they did. For example, they mention things they found at the Torre do Tombo (the Portuguese National Archives in Lisboa) that often add some meat to the skeletal information of the oldest ancestors. Whether things found like that exist for your own lines, I would have to study more those chapters.For most people, these are great references that a library should have and where you can go and extract those little bits of information that apply to you. You might actually find that a good library in Toronto already has the set. Check it out. Or maybe get them to buy a set if they are still available. Or maybe there is a genealogy group that got a copy for their members. That would not surprise me.If you get more serious about your oldest ancestors and their relation to the times in which they lived, you will also want to get a hold of books by other Azorean priests and genealogists. There are books like Saudades da Terra that are full of information. They are often quoted by generations of genealogists that followed. It's very out of date, but I did one time start to compile some of these reference titles and put them on my website. I think I call it the Portuguese Genealogy Library.Most good references are in the Portuguese language, but a good one in English is James Guill's Volume 5 History of the Azores Islands, now long out of print. I describe it on my website somewhere. Many libraries have copies.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ? From: Freddy Garcia fg.street...@gmail.com Date: Fri, November 15, 2013 2:50 pm To: Doug Holmes p...@dholmes.com No no, doesn't need to be private, please give John a thank you from me as i'm struggling with posting, thanks DougOn Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:41 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Freddy,Your reply went only to me, so a thanks to John Raposo will go unnoticed. Do you want to ask again on the list, or just keep it private?I can answer either way or both.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco da Silveira Villalobos descendant of King William I of England ? From: Freddy Garcia fg.street...@gmail.com Date: Fri, November 15, 2013 1:05 pm To: Doug Holmes p...@dholmes.com Thanks for taking a peek for me Doug, yes , not to many people are fortunate enough to go back over 1000 years, my second oldest sister Regina is by far the most excited though, being a past member of the Monarchist League of Canada, she can't get enough of the Royal family, and has
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record
Fred I can make out: Gaspar Rodrigues son of Antonio Rodrigues with Catarina da guiar (de Aguiar) daughter of Gaspar da Guiar (de Aguiar). Hope that helps. Hermano Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record From: festrella...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:07:36 -0700 To: azores@googlegroups.com The attached marriage record (upper left page) is for my 7th ggrandparents. Their marriage date is 5 Jul 1671 in Ginetes, Sao Miguel, but I'm having trouble with their parents' names because of the abbreviations. Any help would be greatly appreciated. (here's the link too, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P20.html). Fred Sent from my iPad -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with info on IES Hall, East San Jose
Hi, The IES Hall in East San Jose will be celebrating it's 100th anniversary next year, and there will be a book published on it's history as well. Unfortunately, there was a fire in the 1990s which distroyed records from the 1930s-1950s. The authors have compiled some info during this time period, but would like to ask for help in acquiring as much info as possible. Specfically: - any queens (images and information) - IES Presidents (images and information) - images of the IES (interior and exterior) between 1945-1959 If you have any information between 1930s-1950s, it will be greatly appreciated. Please email me directly: island.family.t...@gmail.comisland.family.t...@gmail.com Many thanks. Marie Vierra -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record
Hermano, Thanks for your help. Fred Sent from my iPad On Nov 15, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Hermano C. Pires lagoe...@hotmail.com wrote: Fred I can make out: Gaspar Rodrigues son of Antonio Rodrigues with Catarina da guiar (de Aguiar) daughter of Gaspar da Guiar (de Aguiar). Hope that helps. Hermano Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record From: festrella...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:07:36 -0700 To: azores@googlegroups.com The attached marriage record (upper left page) is for my 7th ggrandparents. Their marriage date is 5 Jul 1671 in Ginetes, Sao Miguel, but I'm having trouble with their parents' names because of the abbreviations. Any help would be greatly appreciated. (here's the link too, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P20.html). Fred Sent from my iPad -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record
This is what it looks like to me: 5 July 1661 Manoel Rodrigues, son of (Antonio Rodrigues) SPOUSE Catharina da Aguiar (Gaspar da Aguiar) for godparents (I THINK THAT THESE WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT GAVE TESTIMONY) Gaspar Rodrigues, Antonio Cabral, Maria Rodrigues, and ? Maria or Agada Gaspar?? THERE ARE NO PARENTS LISTED FOR THE BRIDE AND FOR THE GROOM. This one is hard to read. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Fred Estrella festrella...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Record The attached marriage record (upper left page) is for my 7th ggrandparents. Their marriage date is 5 Jul 1671 in Ginetes, Sao Miguel, but I'm having trouble with their parents' names because of the abbreviations. Any help would be greatly appreciated. (here's the link too, http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P20.html). Fred Sent from my iPad -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Translation
Could someone help me with a marriage translation. I am looking at the marriage of Joao Farias and Maria Moniz. I am tring to figure out the names of each of their mothers. See attachment: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P174.html Thank you. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Marriage Translation
Sheri, The left record is for a Joao Frias and a Maria Moniz. I hope that is what you meant. The groom's mother is Izabel Furtado. The bride's mother is Maria de Ascenpao? It's Assumption in Portuguese. I'm not sure of the spelling and if the scribe spelled it right, but I'm pretty sure I know what he means. I'm sure someone else will confirm the Assumption part or not. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Links to other Flamengos records?
Thanks to another member of the list who posted a link, I was able to click and search for my great-grandparents' marriage registration in 1868. The link was http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891_item1/ What I cannot figure out is how I can now move to other Flamengos records such as births and deaths. If I trimthe URL to try to get to a main directory, I get an error message. The only thing I can do is go to the domain name, but then I cannot figure out what to click to find what I want. Does anyone know how I can drill down from the homepage of Culturacores and get to the volumes I'd like to look at? Tomás Leal -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Links to other Flamengos records?
http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Tomas Leal tomasl...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks to another member of the list who posted a link, I was able to click and search for my great-grandparents' marriage registration in 1868. The link was http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891_item1/ What I cannot figure out is how I can now move to other Flamengos records such as births and deaths. If I trimthe URL to try to get to a main directory, I get an error message. The only thing I can do is go to the domain name, but then I cannot figure out what to click to find what I want. Does anyone know how I can drill down from the homepage of Culturacores and get to the volumes I'd like to look at? Tomás Leal -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Links to other Flamengos records?
click on the arrow button on the left change it to the island, then Horta then next one Flamengos click on baptism/obit On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.culturacores.azores.gov.pt/ig/registos/Default.aspx On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Tomas Leal tomasl...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks to another member of the list who posted a link, I was able to click and search for my great-grandparents' marriage registration in 1868. The link was http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891_item1/ What I cannot figure out is how I can now move to other Flamengos records such as births and deaths. If I trimthe URL to try to get to a main directory, I get an error message. The only thing I can do is go to the domain name, but then I cannot figure out what to click to find what I want. Does anyone know how I can drill down from the homepage of Culturacores and get to the volumes I'd like to look at? Tomás Leal -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Default setting in Family Finder
The admins squawked about this: Blurb from FTDNA: Family Finder Update: As many have requested, Show All is now the default view on the Family Finder - Matches page. When someone clicked on Matches, it used to show Close and Immediate and if you didn't have any, it took 5 seconds to go to Show All. So now, Show All is the default. Cheri -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Need one word help
For the marriage of Antonino de Lima and Francisca Roza on left hand page there's one word that's driving me nuts. I can't figure it out. Does anyone know what it says? I'm hoping it throws some light on who Manoel was- an occupation (?) maybe. After that word I picked up that he was dead when the marriage occurred. Thanks for all yours help. Maria Elena http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780/SMG-PD-RELVA-C-1762-1780_item1/P23.html Sent from my iPad -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
