Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter
At 14:42 +0100 28/3/07, Mario Menti wrote: On 3/28/07, Andy Roberts mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/02/07, Tristan Ferne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you like it the idea. What Radio 4 updates would you find interesting? I hope you don't mind a little self-promotion, but I recently set up http://twitterfeed.comhttp://twitterfeed.com - a service that lets you take any RSS feed and post its updates to twitter. So if anyone here wants specific BBC twitter updates, as long as there's a feed for it, you should be able to create a twitter bot for it all on your own :-) A little experimental still, but working so far.. Mario. I am sure RSS to twitter has some merit, but I feel twitter is about human presence not machine generated feeds. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Weather Feeds
At 00:02 +0100 29/3/07, James Brook wrote: Hello All, I've finally gotten around to having a play with the weather RSS feeds and I notice that one of the feed's trips up my xml parser. http://feeds.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/rss/5day/id/3374.xml - has an illegal character in the name the in the Elephant Castle. I'm skipping it for now (sorry anyone who lives in EC). Cheers, James Brook I bet the are sorry too... :-) Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03_march/29/3g.s html Can we have the BBC one, BBC THREE and (in particular) BBC News 24 streams online please? If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter
I've looked at Twitter and I can see the usefulness, but I can't find a Google/Vista gadget for it... Have I missed it, or do I need to get coding? Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Joly Sent: 29 March 2007 11:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter At 14:42 +0100 28/3/07, Mario Menti wrote: On 3/28/07, Andy Roberts mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/02/07, Tristan Ferne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you like it the idea. What Radio 4 updates would you find interesting? I hope you don't mind a little self-promotion, but I recently set up http://twitterfeed.comhttp://twitterfeed.com - a service that lets you take any RSS feed and post its updates to twitter. So if anyone here wants specific BBC twitter updates, as long as there's a feed for it, you should be able to create a twitter bot for it all on your own :-) A little experimental still, but working so far.. Mario. I am sure RSS to twitter has some merit, but I feel twitter is about human presence not machine generated feeds. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter
On 3/29/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked at Twitter and I can see the usefulness, but I can't find a Google/Vista gadget for it... Have I missed it, or do I need to get coding? I think you'll find what you want here: http://twitter.pbwiki.com Lists both a Vista sidebar and a Google gadget.. Mario.
Re: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
On 3/29/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) Almost, except I imagine the Mobile Phone networks are pobably paying BBC Worldwide a not-inconsiderable amount of money for the rights to broadcast BBC content as part of their 'walled garden' offering - a cost that may or may not be passed on to the customer as a 'pay per view' service. In addition, putting the streams online would make them available *globally*, putting them on mobiles run by UK operators makes them available (for the most part) to the UK citizens who fund the BBC. Note: I'm not saying that this situation is a good thing, but that this is probably the reason why BBC content is available on mobile and not online for the time being. With the exception of a few providers, Mobile data services are closed, non-neutral networks, and, as such are very different from the 'proper' internet. This is probably why traditional 'rights-holders' are so keen on them. Cheers, Tim
RE: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter
Twadget - http://arsecandle.org/twadget/ - for the Vista sidebar. I've had problems with it, but that's probably just me... Otherwise, it works just as well with Google Talk / Jabber / AIM - just leave the conversation window open. D. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 29 March 2007 11:48 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter I've looked at Twitter and I can see the usefulness, but I can't find a Google/Vista gadget for it... Have I missed it, or do I need to get coding? Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Joly Sent: 29 March 2007 11:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Radio 1 on Twitter At 14:42 +0100 28/3/07, Mario Menti wrote: On 3/28/07, Andy Roberts mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 21/02/07, Tristan Ferne mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glad you like it the idea. What Radio 4 updates would you find interesting? I hope you don't mind a little self-promotion, but I recently set up http://twitterfeed.comhttp://twitterfeed.com - a service that lets you take any RSS feed and post its updates to twitter. So if anyone here wants specific BBC twitter updates, as long as there's a feed for it, you should be able to create a twitter bot for it all on your own :-) A little experimental still, but working so far.. Mario. I am sure RSS to twitter has some merit, but I feel twitter is about human presence not machine generated feeds. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
Brian Butterworth wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03_march/29/3g.s html Can we have the BBC one, BBC THREE and (in particular) BBC News 24 streams online please? If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) I doubt it is that easy. Anyway you can always get a Slingbox and then watch any freeview channels. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Browser Stats
Frank Wales said: Admittedly, I've only met Jem a few times, but I feel I ought to defend his honour here by pointing out that I don't believe he's the misleading type. I apologise, I did not mean it as a personal attack. Sorry. I can't recall the last time I was blocked from content on bbc.co.uk. I can, it was when a page required me to have ActiveX to view a video. And yes I did inform the BBC about it, they ignored it until I sent on official complaint. There official response to this complaint was download ActiveX and shut up. Richard Lockwood said: Andy - ordinary people do not generally use Linux as a desktop OS. Is there such a thing as an ordinary person? Any way my point was that the true figure may not be quite as low as stated. I did not say it would be greatly higher, certainly not higher than WindowsXP (by a long way). I would be quite surprised if it was more than 10%. Richard also said: No - you really dislike statistics when they prove something that doesn't meet with your approval. Well that statement that statistics prove anything is inaccurate. Statistics can be flawed, especially depending on how they where conducted. Here, for example, you find a figure you wish was a lot higher, and then come up with a load of reasons why it might be inaccurate, without providing any evidence for a single one of them. I would have thought they where all self explanatory, evidently not. Many studies have shown that Junk email makes up 90% of all email. Why are you assuming that the same people are not using websites to launch attacks? Have you never heard the phrase comment spam, have you never seen a captcha, they're not there to look good. Stick your email address on a public website, wait a bit and see if you get spam. How do you think they knew that was your email address? Because robots do trawl the Internet looking for email addresses. The BBC site is more likely to be hit by these as lots of places link there so it's easy to find. Jason Cartwright wrote: but add that these numbers are probably generated by some pretty sophisticated 3rd part software that the BBC employs. But we don't know that do we? Have you ever seem how bad user agent sniffing is? I was using a PC running FireFox on Linux that transmitted the word Linux in its user agent. I was told by a major website that I was running Netscape on Mac OS. I can see how it got Netscape, FireFox is derived from the Netscape code base, but how it got from the word Linux into the word Mac I don't know. And this was for a user agent that was stating it's OS as Linux. If major Internet companies have problems with recognizing the word Linux I doubt they could recognize the different distributions either. Jason Cartwright wrote: bbc.co.uk uses ActiveX Where? Hm, my mistake it was on a BBC site but not under the bbc.co.uk domain, I could look for other examples on bbc.co.uk but for now this will suffice. http://www.bbcworld.com/content/clickonline_archive_PC.asp?pageid=666co_pageid=1 This site now appears to be dead. On 28/03/07, Gordon Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cam we assume that global stats (of random websites) show a higher number of Linux web clients that this, such as wget and telnet www.example.com 80? What has telnet got to do with this? Seems analysis is via User Agent header it would require the telnet user to actually add a user agent string by hand, I have never bothered with that as it's extra typing and isn't required for a valid request. (Admittedly I rarely use telnet for http connections, the last time was when a FireFox claimed a site was redirecting badly, turned out the server was 302ing to itself). Also telnet is not only a Linux client. Telnet exists on Windows, it's just most Windows users haven't figured out its there. Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
Tim, They can't be paying BBC Worldwide a penny, as it is strictly forbidden by the Communications Act 2003! Brian Butterworth HYPERLINK http://www.ukfree.tv/www.ukfree.tv On 3/29/07, Brian Butterworth HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) Almost, except I imagine the Mobile Phone networks are pobably paying BBC Worldwide a not-inconsiderable amount of money for the rights to broadcast BBC content as part of their 'walled garden' offering - a cost that may or may not be passed on to the customer as a 'pay per view' service. In addition, putting the streams online would make them available *globally*, putting them on mobiles run by UK operators makes them available (for the most part) to the UK citizens who fund the BBC. Note: I'm not saying that this situation is a good thing, but that this is probably the reason why BBC content is available on mobile and not online for the time being. With the exception of a few providers, Mobile data services are closed, non-neutral networks, and, as such are very different from the 'proper' internet. This is probably why traditional 'rights-holders' are so keen on them. Cheers, Tim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23
Re: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
On 3/29/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, They can't be paying BBC Worldwide a penny, as it is strictly forbidden by the Communications Act 2003! Really? please do explain... I was under the impression that Worldwide were the rights-holders for all BBC-originated content, and wasn't aware of any limits on their exploitation of these rights. What exactly does the Communications Act prohibit? Cheers, Tim
Re: [backstage] Browser Stats
Richard Lockwood said: Andy - ordinary people do not generally use Linux as a desktop OS. Is there such a thing as an ordinary person? Any way my point was that the true figure may not be quite as low as stated. I did not say it would be greatly higher, certainly not higher than WindowsXP (by a long way). I would be quite surprised if it was more than 10%. Even 10% is significantly higher than 0.4% Richard also said: Here, for example, you find a figure you wish was a lot higher, and then come up with a load of reasons why it might be inaccurate, without providing any evidence for a single one of them. I would have thought they where all self explanatory, evidently not. Many studies have shown that Junk email makes up 90% of all email. Why are you assuming that the same people are not using websites to launch attacks? Have you never heard the phrase comment spam, have you never seen a captcha, they're not there to look good. Stick your email address on a public website, wait a bit and see if you get spam. How do you think they knew that was your email address? Because robots do trawl the Internet looking for email addresses. The BBC site is more likely to be hit by these as lots of places link there so it's easy to find. No - this is not evidence. You're coming up with a series of hypotheses to fit your scenario - that a significant proportion of people use Linux as a desktop OS. This is the same arguing technique that proponants of Intelligent Design use. You can't prove otherwise, so it must be true. Jason Cartwright wrote: but add that these numbers are probably generated by some pretty sophisticated 3rd part software that the BBC employs. But we don't know that do we? Have you ever seem how bad user agent sniffing is? I was using a PC running FireFox on Linux that transmitted the word Linux in its user agent. I was told by a major website that I was running Netscape on Mac OS. Again - just because the BBC's technique *might* be inaccurate doesn't mean it *is* inaccurate. Likewise, because you want to believe that Linux is massively popular doesn't mean it is. There was a very interesting (and to my mind, fairly written) article in The Register yesterday about installing Linux: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/03/28/desktop_linux/ (cue Linux-heads bleating about how he should've used a different distro, or how the author must be brain dead not to be able to get it right first time...) I care not one way or the other, but it goes to show why Linux still isn't ready for everyman to go installing it on his expensive PC when it came with a perfectly-good-operating-system-why-would-I-want-to-change-it-anyway. Rich. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
Oh for CRYING out loud - why not a partnership with T-Mobile? They have the best 3G HSDPA network in the UK! And I'm on T-Mobile! Typical. -Original Message- From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2007 11:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03 _march/29/3g.s html Can we have the BBC one, BBC THREE and (in particular) BBC News 24 streams online please? If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
The Communication Act 2003 strictly forbits the requirement of a payment to watch a live BBC TV channel. This is why the BBC one service on DAB radio is free-to-air, and why all BBC services are free on analogue and digital cable, and also on digital satellite too. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Cowlishaw Sent: 29 March 2007 12:45 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 On 3/29/07, Brian Butterworth HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim, They can't be paying BBC Worldwide a penny, as it is strictly forbidden by the Communications Act 2003! Really? please do explain... I was under the impression that Worldwide were the rights-holders for all BBC-originated content, and wasn't aware of any limits on their exploitation of these rights. What exactly does the Communications Act prohibit? Cheers, Tim -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23
RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
Chris, I wouldn't worry about it, the service is going to be even worse than the DAB service used by Virgin Mobile! Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 29 March 2007 13:51 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 Oh for CRYING out loud - why not a partnership with T-Mobile? They have the best 3G HSDPA network in the UK! And I'm on T-Mobile! Typical. -Original Message- From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2007 11:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03 _march/29/3g.s html Can we have the BBC one, BBC THREE and (in particular) BBC News 24 streams online please? If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com
Does anyone know what's happened to this? I'm getting a 404 from http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/channels.dat and from each of the individual channel pages (eg: http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/92.dat) - and RadioTimes.com isn't responding. Can anyone shed any light? Cheers, R. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
3G technical trial. 12 months long. it's public service, as Brian says. Nowt to do with BBC Worldwide. we don't have regulatory permission to broadcast BBC TV 24/7 live on the open net until iPlayer public value test has been approved by the BBC Trust (assuming they do indeed approve this). On 29/03/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris, I wouldn't worry about it, the service is going to be even worse than the DAB service used by Virgin Mobile! Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 29 March 2007 13:51 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 Oh for CRYING out loud - why not a partnership with T-Mobile? They have the best 3G HSDPA network in the UK! And I'm on T-Mobile! Typical. -Original Message- From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2007 11:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03 _march/29/3g.s html Can we have the BBC one, BBC THREE and (in particular) BBC News 24 streams online please? If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
On 29/03/07, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3G technical trial. 12 months long. it's public service, as Brian says. Nowt to do with BBC Worldwide. we don't have regulatory permission to broadcast BBC TV 24/7 live on the open net until iPlayer public value test has been approved by the BBC Trust (assuming they do indeed approve this). You don't have permission to carry adverts on BBC Worldwide service either, but that hasn't stopped this has it? http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=BBCWorldwide That's not broadcast live, is it. Which is what the must carry provision covers. Which I suspect you knew already. Sometimes I do wonder why we bother. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
Still, considering TMO have the best 3G network in the UK, and (imo) the best takeup - and selection - of flat-rate data packages, it seems a bit short-sighted to run these 'public trials' without including TMO as a carrier! Orange and Vodafone are ridiculously expensive data-wise, only 3 could be classed as a competitor with TM 3G-wise. Maybe I'm just jealous. ;) Still annoying that I've even been a member of the multicast trials for approaching a year now, and I've only ever managed to make the multicast streams actually WORK once - and that was in Halls, and then two weeks later they changed their network topology and multicast stopped working! And my ISP is stalling on multicast enablement (Be*) when they're one of the few ISPs who would actually properly benefit from a multicast-enabled network given their LLU infrastructure... Sigh. When the iPlayer is rolled out, will the mobile streams (and/or access to them) fall under the iP umbrella? I'd love to be able to authenticate with an iPlayer username which I've set up on my desktop client, then be able to watch mobile-formatted streams of the same channels via my mobile device - that'd make the morning commute so much less painful! Huge PITA to set up though :D -Original Message- From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2007 14:03 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 Chris, I wouldn't worry about it, the service is going to be even worse than the DAB service used by Virgin Mobile! Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Woods Sent: 29 March 2007 13:51 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 Oh for CRYING out loud - why not a partnership with T-Mobile? They have the best 3G HSDPA network in the UK! And I'm on T-Mobile! Typical. -Original Message- From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2007 11:46 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3 http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03 _march/29/3g.s html Can we have the BBC one, BBC THREE and (in particular) BBC News 24 streams online please? If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: 28/03/2007 16:23 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com
It's not even Safari compliant, yet. Does anyone have a better alternative with Freeview listings? On 29/03/07, John Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/03/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know what's happened to this? I'm getting a 404 from http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/channels.dat and from each of the individual channel pages (eg: http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/92.dat) - and RadioTimes.com isn't responding. Can anyone shed any light? Cheers, R. They were doing some changes the other day as the user interface stuff now required you to login with a username and password rather than just your email address. I guess they're updating more stuff, it's not exactly the most stable of sites at the best of times... jonh -- Angelo - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Browser Stats
At 14:17 +0100 29/3/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: To summarise: Linux is truly intelligent design but no-one uses it as a desktop OS, or if they do they are too ashamed to connect to the internet and if they do they fake it as a Windows machine? Brian Butterworth Sorry, off topic. Gordo -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com
Bleb.org/tv is something I use quite often (when I don't have my laptop with Digiguide to hand on it) but unfortunately they can't show ITV listings due to legal reasons at the mo - believe a solution is being sought at the moment. Still, VERY handy site. And who watches ITV anyway. ;) -Original Message- From: Angelo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 March 2007 23:11 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com It's not even Safari compliant, yet. Does anyone have a better alternative with Freeview listings? On 29/03/07, John Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/03/07, Richard Lockwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know what's happened to this? I'm getting a 404 from http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/channels.dat and from each of the individual channel pages (eg: http://xmltv.radiotimes.com/xmltv/92.dat) - and RadioTimes.com isn't responding. Can anyone shed any light? Cheers, R. They were doing some changes the other day as the user interface stuff now required you to login with a username and password rather than just your email address. I guess they're updating more stuff, it's not exactly the most stable of sites at the best of times... jonh -- Angelo - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com
On 30/03/07, Christopher Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bleb.org/tv is something I use quite often (when I don't have my laptop with Digiguide to hand on it) but unfortunately they can't show ITV listings due to legal reasons at the mo - believe a solution is being sought at the moment. Still, VERY handy site. And who watches ITV anyway. ;) For original crime drama - can't be beaten. Mobile... Cold Blood... Prime Suspect... c'mon. The RT xmltv feed appears to be back online now, by the way. Mythtv users of the UK breathe a collective sigh of relief. Peter -- Peter Bowyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
