Re: [backstage] Re: built with

2007-09-21 Thread Neil Phillips
To be fair to the people at builtwith you can also suggest new technologies
- there's a form where you can tell them about the specific characteristics
to look for and hey presto, the next day (presumably after a bit of vetting)
the site recognises said technology.

Cheers,

Neil

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> Sorry wasn't meant to sound like I was knocking it. Actually its pretty
> good, but yes it would be great if it could look a little deeper :)
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> Wow, it's taken a real beating from the discerning folks on this list
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> http://builtwith.com/default.aspx?www.cubicgarden.com
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> Not a single mention about me running Resin
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RE: [backstage] Re: built with

2007-09-21 Thread Ian Forrester
Sorry wasn't meant to sound like I was knocking it. Actually its pretty good, 
but yes it would be great if it could look a little deeper :) 

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Wow, it's taken a real beating from the discerning folks on this list

Note to self: test these things properly before sending them out :)

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http://builtwith.com/default.aspx?www.cubicgarden.com

Not a single mention about me running Resin

Cheers

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RE: [backstage] the economics of BBC content

2007-09-21 Thread Ian Forrester
Yeah I have to agree with Dave's quote. I remember hearing somewhere two things 
about Flickr.

1. Flickr is the biggest store of publicly accessible and licensed photos in 
the world
2. Flickr's creative commons section stores more cc'ed photos that anywhere 
else on this planet.
 

Now I know that says nothing about the quality but lets not dismiss flickr too 
soon.

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On 21/09/2007, George Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Flickr isn't a substitute for professional photo libraries just yet, you know.

"We drive into the future using only our rearview mirror."
-- Marshall McLuhan

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Re: [backstage] the economics of BBC content

2007-09-21 Thread Dave Crossland
On 21/09/2007, George Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Flickr isn't a substitute for professional photo libraries just yet, you know.

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RE: [backstage] the economics of BBC content

2007-09-21 Thread Ian Forrester
If it was me I would use this one - 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronbeekay/159106301/

Although this would be tempting - 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rich_childs/1135151931/



http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=lightbulb&l=4 


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Hello
This has bothered me for some time but the picture and caption on this page 
were the final straw
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7005206.stm

How much should the BBC be paying for that page, aside from the journalism and 
broadcast? It really shouldn't need to pay for such a pointless picture, there 
must be thousands of beautiful lightbulb pictures available for free (although 
the beeb was accused of nicking them off Flickr a whiles back, perhaps it's all 
stricter now...)

But with some clever feeds, the pictures could be free, just as pretty, just as 
relevant, and the corporation saved enough to buy a researcher to oomph up the 
story.

cheers!
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Re: [backstage] the economics of BBC content

2007-09-21 Thread Martin Deutsch
Oddly enough, someone sent me the following link the other day, wondering if
it was the BBC's cost-cutting measures going a little too far by asking the
public to send in royalty-free images...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6993603.stm


(Is this about to open a massive can of UGC worms?)

 - martin

On 9/21/07, James Ockenden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello
> This has bothered me for some time but the picture and caption on this
> page were the final straw
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7005206.stm
>
> How much should the BBC be paying for that page, aside from the
> journalism and broadcast? It really shouldn't need to pay for such a
> pointless picture, there must be thousands of beautiful lightbulb
> pictures available for free (although the beeb was accused of nicking
> them off Flickr a whiles back, perhaps it's all stricter now...)
>
> But with some clever feeds, the pictures could be free, just as
> pretty, just as relevant, and the corporation saved enough to buy a
> researcher to oomph up the story.
>
> cheers!
> James in HK
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Re: [backstage] the economics of BBC content

2007-09-21 Thread George Wright


On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:24:20 +0800, "James Ockenden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
> This has bothered me for some time but the picture and caption on this
> page were the final straw
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7005206.stm
> 
> How much should the BBC be paying for that page, aside from the
> journalism and broadcast? It really shouldn't need to pay for such a
> pointless picture, there must be thousands of beautiful lightbulb
> pictures available for free (although the beeb was accused of nicking
> them off Flickr a whiles back, perhaps it's all stricter now...)

Assuming you're querying the c)  logo on this picture - I think you 
misunderstand how the BBC pays for content like this. It's *highly* likely that 
this picture is covered by a catchall payment - which the BBC has with many 
large photo libraries.

Please also remember that the BBC used to *own* Getty  
(http://www.ketupa.net/getty.htm)

Flickr isn't a substitute for professional photo libraries just yet, you know.

(disclaimer - I work for the BBC, though not in the photo library area..)

George

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[backstage] the economics of BBC content

2007-09-21 Thread James Ockenden
Hello
This has bothered me for some time but the picture and caption on this
page were the final straw
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7005206.stm

How much should the BBC be paying for that page, aside from the
journalism and broadcast? It really shouldn't need to pay for such a
pointless picture, there must be thousands of beautiful lightbulb
pictures available for free (although the beeb was accused of nicking
them off Flickr a whiles back, perhaps it's all stricter now...)

But with some clever feeds, the pictures could be free, just as
pretty, just as relevant, and the corporation saved enough to buy a
researcher to oomph up the story.

cheers!
James in HK
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[backstage] BBC recruits Kazaa's Rose

2007-09-21 Thread Ian Forrester
Quote from Ashley Highfield's monthly 

"As part of these changes, we’re very fortunate to have Anthony Rose on the 
team, who is joining the BBC as our new head of the Digital Media team. He come 
to us from Kazaa with a formidable background in p2p networks, DRM based 
content publishing and 3D animation."

http://media.guardian.co.uk/newmedia/story/0,,2171162,00.html

Cheers

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Re: Re: [backstage] Geographical coordinates of weather feed locations

2007-09-21 Thread anarkin
Ah,

Thanks Allan. Perhaps I should have looked at the feeds properly first before 
asking. :)

Pappa


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> From: Allan Jardine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Well the latitude and longitude are in the feeds:
> 
> 49.92
> -6.3
> 
> So it would be a fairly simple matter to parse through the feeds and  
> grab out the required data. You might want to put a little pause  
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> Allan
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> On 20 Sep 2007, at 21:34, Pappa wrote:
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> > Hi,
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> > Does anyone know if it is possible to obtain the geographical  
> > coordinates of the 7379 BBC weather feed locations?
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> > Thanks,
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