[backstage] Film Reviews
Hi, I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. Regards Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
They should link it to an audio-indexed version of the Kermode film rants too... On 5/29/08, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Film Reviews
In theory the polling app, which is a general application across a number of sites, will continue to accept ratings indefinitely. Although the rating data is not easily extractable if there was a strong enough call for it, it could be done. I don't think there are any plans to republish the articles or gateway pages (the people, genre, star, etc index pages) in more open mark up format but there's no reason why we couldn't, if anyone wants to such a thing it could be a fun project for Mashed. I wrote both the polling app and the Films site backend so know both systems quite well. Robin Doran bbc.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Brickley Sent: 29 May 2008 16:08 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Film Reviews Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Dan Brickley wrote: Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Yes there is. The documentation etc is available from http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/syndication/1/docs/, however it probably isn't much use anymore. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC website review: Site failing to act as 'trusted guide
A few interesting points... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/may/29/bbc.digitalmedia1 et al The BBC Trust also found that bbc.co.uk's internal search engine is not effective and its usage is declining. Referrals from the internal search engine declined from 24% of total bbc.co.uk traffic to 19% between the last quarter of 2006 and the same period last year, the trust noted. The trust cited figures of low levels of usage for the BBC's web search service - around 3 million monthly users, compared with 28 million for Google and 6 million each for Yahoo, MSN and Ask. In the context of a web search market which has become increasingly commercially attractive, we have considered whether there is a role for a public service engine, said the BBC Trust. - bbc.co.uk's service licence states that it should act as a trusted guide to the internet, guiding users to the wider web and linking to external websites with high public value - the BBC Trust said it was disappointed to see findings that showed that in July 2007 there were just 4.6 million click-throughs by UK users from bbc.co.uk to external websites, with an overall pattern trending downwards - comments from the public consultation and research suggest that the ineffectiveness and inaccessibility of the links is the main factor preventing greater usage. - We are [also] not convinced that BBC management's ambition to be 'part of' the web rather than 'on it' by embedding BBC content on other sites, such as YouTube, plays any role in acting as a 'trusted guide' to the wider web, the BBC Trust added. Rather, this is mainly a way of marketing BBC content to those who might not otherwise access it. - The report pointed out that as recently as January 2008, BBC executives had predicted that bbc.co.uk would only be about 5% over budget for the financial year. In fact, the trust's own review carried out in December 2007 was showing the bbc.co.uk annual budget had been blown by 48%. --- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
Re: [backstage] Film Reviews
Hi, Does anyone know why ... The Movies producer says, As there are a great many services that provide listings and written reviews on the web, the BBC has decided to focus its efforts elsewhere, so we will no longer be updating the site. The red button movie service and www.bbc.co.uk/movies have been closed from today as they were not offering a distinctive service for film audiences. The decision was taken after a full review of the services within the context of the broader market and other BBC film digital offerings. will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. Yup, afraid so. This data existed to produce the various movies services. Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Yep. Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? The Movies production staff don't mind if we publish a copy of the entire review database. Each review contains a polling ID that you could use to fetch the results using this URL, http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/syndication/1/user-rating/[id]/rating.xml Or as Robin mentions, we could just extract the Movies data from the communal rating database. Is anyone else interested in this? Thanks, M - Vision / FMT On 29/5/08 16:07, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Bowden wrote: I see the film reviews are nolonger being updated on the BBC site. Does anyone know why and will this mean that the film reviews xml feeds will no longer be updated. The Movies site (and it's associated section on BBCi) formally closed on 6 May 2008 - they've left the archive online, however there won't be any new reviews. As such, the feeds won't get updated. The ratings DB at http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/ (assume this is the site you're talking about) still seems open for business. I voted on a couple of movies and it increased the counter, eg. 'Average rating: 4 from 701 votes' in http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/03/28/panic_room_2002_review.shtml# Will the system carry on accepting ratings indefinitely? Is there any way to get a movie ratings data dump out of /cgi-perl/polling/poll.pl ? Seems like a nice collection of data, even if it won't be updated. There are people pages too, even enough to play the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon game, albeit on a dataset much smaller than IMDB: http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/gateways/star/baconkevin/ If http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/catalogue_offline.shtml were back online, it might be fun to match up the identifiers to find other appearances of the same actors elsewhere in BBCland... cheers, Dan -- http://danbri.org/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] An alternative iPlayer interface for the Wii
I've been using the iPlayer on the Wii quite a lot recently and felt the interface could be improved to make navigation easier on the Wii's low resolution. Because of this, I've created an alternative interface that integrates better with the Wii UI and hopefully improves usability. To use it just point your Wii browser at: http://defaced.co.uk/wiiplayer/ More information and screenshots can be found here: http://defaced.co.uk/blog/index.php/2008/05/28/wiiplayer-the-better-way-to-view-the-bbc-iplayer/ There are still a few rough edges here and there but I think it works well overall. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Chris
RE: [backstage] BBC website review: Site failing to act as 'trusted guide
A few interesting points picked out by the guardian ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Brian Butterworth Sent: Thu 5/29/2008 5:20 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] BBC website review: Site failing to act as 'trusted guide A few interesting points... http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/may/29/bbc.digitalmedia1 et al The BBC Trust also found that bbc.co.uk's internal search engine is not effective and its usage is declining. Referrals from the internal search engine declined from 24% of total bbc.co.uk traffic to 19% between the last quarter of 2006 and the same period last year, the trust noted. The trust cited figures of low levels of usage for the BBC's web search service - around 3 million monthly users, compared with 28 million for Google and 6 million each for Yahoo, MSN and Ask. In the context of a web search market which has become increasingly commercially attractive, we have considered whether there is a role for a public service engine, said the BBC Trust. - bbc.co.uk's service licence states that it should act as a trusted guide to the internet, guiding users to the wider web and linking to external websites with high public value - the BBC Trust said it was disappointed to see findings that showed that in July 2007 there were just 4.6 million click-throughs by UK users from bbc.co.uk to external websites, with an overall pattern trending downwards - comments from the public consultation and research suggest that the ineffectiveness and inaccessibility of the links is the main factor preventing greater usage. - We are [also] not convinced that BBC management's ambition to be 'part of' the web rather than 'on it' by embedding BBC content on other sites, such as YouTube, plays any role in acting as a 'trusted guide' to the wider web, the BBC Trust added. Rather, this is mainly a way of marketing BBC content to those who might not otherwise access it. - The report pointed out that as recently as January 2008, BBC executives had predicted that bbc.co.uk would only be about 5% over budget for the financial year. In fact, the trust's own review carried out in December 2007 was showing the bbc.co.uk annual budget had been blown by 48%. --- Brian Butterworth http://www.ukfree.tv - independent digital television and switchover advice, since 2002
