Re: [backstage] HD Videocamera advice please...

[Jim Tonge]

"...had bad experience with sometimes the picture breaking up..."



Never had any problems with ours: try using better quality tapes and  
striping them first (I always do it but videophiles disagree on this).


Jim


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Re: [backstage] HD Videocamera advice please...

[Matt Barber]

Jim Tonge wrote:
Got a lower version of the Sony HDR-HC9E 
 at 
work - last year's model. Pretty good for a Handycam: CMOS sensor, 
audio in. 'Spose it depends if you want DV/HDV or flash cards. For the 
price I'd probably go with DV tape though.


Got 'em at Amazon for £645, but try Visual Impact Northern 
 - their sales guy Rob 
usually sorts me out with a really good price. Good luck.


Jim

Thanks Jim,
I will have a look. I had some miniDV standard-def cameras before - but 
had bad experience with sometimes the picture breaking up, was thinking 
a hard disk model would solve that and also give me random access which 
would be great. Just considering that lowers my range considerably 
though so will give tape a look, thanks for the suggestion :)

Matt

Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Rob Myers]

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Dave Crossland wrote:

> I'd guess that under-projected desk-size multitouch screens like the
> one Jeff Han became famous with at TED Talsk 2006(?) would complement
> an over-head high res camera for 'scanning' better, so that shadows
> don't annoy (and the pointing doesn't seem very accurate in the first
> demo of the calculator... But it is 199_1_! :-)

Projector tables and blob tracking were a staple on the electronic art
circuit from the early 1990s, it's taken a long time for this to seep
back to centres of "innovation" like Microsoft. ;-)

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Re: [backstage] HD Videocamera advice please...

[Jim Tonge]

Got a lower version of the Sony HDR-HC9E at work - last year's model.  
Pretty good for a Handycam: CMOS sensor, audio in. 'Spose it depends  
if you want DV/HDV or flash cards. For the price I'd probably go with  
DV tape though.


Got 'em at Amazon for £645, but try Visual Impact Northern - their  
sales guy Rob usually sorts me out with a really good price. Good luck.


Jim

On 29 Sep 2008, at 18:54, Matt Barber wrote:


Hi everyone, wondering if I can ask your advice.
I have been interested in getting myself either a new lens for my  
Canon 350D or an HD video camera for some time, and thought it's  
time to get one or the other in the next month or two. Not looking  
for a pro-sumer camera, because it's out of price range and too big  
- something hand-held. Around £550, maybe 650 if the features or  
quality gains are unmissable.


Have looked at these:
Panasonic HDC HS9 [1], with hard disk, small form factor and 3CCDs.  
Unsure if 3CCDs in this case is a gimmick because they're so small.  
I'm not a fan of interpolation but with the money, I don't expect  
full 1080 from all sensors :). No focus ring..
Panasonic HDC SD100 [2], as above, no hard disk, focus ring (good  
feature for me), cheaper. But have to buy the massive SD card.  
Really quick startup time.


Also looked at a canon with one full sensor rather than 3CCDs...

So any thoughts? What have you used? I'd like to hear any  
suggestions or comments.


Many thanks, Matt

[1] 
http://www.trustedreviews.com/camcorders/review/2008/03/15/Panasonic-HDC-HS9-Camcorder/p1
[2] 
http://www.trustedreviews.com/camcorders/review/2008/09/26/Panasonic-HDC-SD100/p1

Re: [backstage] HD Videocamera advice please...

[Matt Barber]

Dave Crossland wrote:

2008/9/29 Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  

I'd like to hear any suggestions or comments.



Out of your price range and needs, but the Red ONE is fun to know about :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_Digital_Camera_Company
  


Ag (sound of drooling from my mouth) - I read about that in Wired, 
then that week, actually saw one being carried around briefly in 
Ostende. It is such a nice bit of kit, interesting story behind it too.

But alas... slightly out of my range :)

Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Dave Crossland]

2008/9/25 Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thursday 25 September 2008 16:22:26 Dave Crossland wrote:
>> Xerox didn't invent touchscreens with (pseudo) 3D accelerated
>> interaction models AFAIK ;p
>
> Circa 1991 - Xerox Europarc's Digital Desk.

Wow! Awesome - thanks Michael! :-)

> projection onto a real desk and scanning in things on the desk as a
> result)

I'd guess that under-projected desk-size multitouch screens like the
one Jeff Han became famous with at TED Talsk 2006(?) would complement
an over-head high res camera for 'scanning' better, so that shadows
don't annoy (and the pointing doesn't seem very accurate in the first
demo of the calculator... But it is 199_1_! :-)

Cheers,
Dave
(Personal opinion only.)
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Re: [backstage] HD Videocamera advice please...

[Dave Crossland]

2008/9/29 Matt Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I'd like to hear any suggestions or comments.

Out of your price range and needs, but the Red ONE is fun to know about :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RED_Digital_Camera_Company
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[backstage] DFEY-NW :: October 19th :: Marbella Cafe :: Digital Freedom in Education and Youth - North West

[Tim Dobson]

(Please forward this to anybody or any lists you think might be interested)

DFEY-NW (Digital Freedom in Education & Youth - North West) is a group 
focusing on young people and issues of freedom in the digital world, 
based in the Northwest of England at the moment.



=== In Brief ===

WHERE: Meet near KFC, Upstairs, Piccadilly Station, Manchester

VENUE: Marbella Cafe, above Sunshine Studios, 52 Newton Street.

WHEN: Sunday 19th October, 12pm -> ~4pm

SIGN UP: http://dfey-nw.eventwax.com/admin/dfey-nw-october-meeting

CONTACT: Email - team at dfey dot freedomdreams dot net

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MAILING LIST: http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss

WEBSITE: http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk

--

Notes from the August meeting: 
http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/August_Meeting/Notes



=== Meeting ===

We have switched venues from The Waterhouse, to Marbella Cafe - a very 
interesting place in the Northern Quarter where Manchester Free Space 
recently set up a community LTSP cluster.
This seems a very appropriate location for a group of our nature. In 
addition, I can vouch for the cheap, *very nice* food and extremely 
friendly staff.


We will have an strong wifi connection so hopefully we can avoid the 
issues from the last meeting!


This creates the possibility that we could broadcast the meeting over 
VOIP... an interesting thought at least.


Due to some people having had difficulty finding the Marbella in the 
past, I suggest we meet *upstairs* not far from KFC at Piccadilly train 
station at about 12pm (look for geeks, laptops, t-shirts, signs saying 
"DFEY", stickers etc.) Once everyone has arrived, we will then move on 
to Marbella.

We aim to have finished by about 4pm.

To make sure everyone is at the station before we move on to the venue, 
it would help if you could sign up at our eventwax page here:


http://dfey-nw.eventwax.com/admin/dfey-nw-october-meeting

If you think a contact number might be helpful on the day, email me and 
I will sort one out :)


=== Contact ===

Please join our *low traffic* mailing list for updates:

 http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/dfey-nw-discuss

or use the forum interface:

 http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Forum

We also are on IRC for questions and socialising at:

 #dfey on irc.freenode.net

There is also a web interface if you haven't mastered IRC yet:

 http://dfey.freedomdreams.co.uk/wiki/Chat

Our Facebook Group is

 http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=24304402298


=== About DFEY-NW ===

DFEY-NW (Digital Freedom in Education and Youth) is a group formed in 
response from a growing need in the Northwest of England for a Group to 
encourage and promote young people's involvement with the free software 
community by creating a social space to make it more comfortable for 
young people to get involved with GLUGs and FSUGs.


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still has one object.
If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now
has two ideas.   -  George Bernard Shaw
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[backstage] HD Videocamera advice please...

[Matt Barber]

Hi everyone, wondering if I can ask your advice.
I have been interested in getting myself either a new lens for my Canon 
350D or an HD video camera for some time, and thought it's time to get 
one or the other in the next month or two. Not looking for a pro-sumer 
camera, because it's out of price range and too big - something 
hand-held. Around £550, maybe 650 if the features or quality gains are 
unmissable.


Have looked at these:
Panasonic HDC HS9 [1], with hard disk, small form factor and 3CCDs. 
Unsure if 3CCDs in this case is a gimmick because they're so small. I'm 
not a fan of interpolation but with the money, I don't expect full 1080 
from all sensors :). No focus ring..
Panasonic HDC SD100 [2], as above, no hard disk, focus ring (good 
feature for me), cheaper. But have to buy the massive SD card. Really 
quick startup time.


Also looked at a canon with one full sensor rather than 3CCDs...

So any thoughts? What have you used? I'd like to hear any suggestions or 
comments.


Many thanks, Matt

[1] 
http://www.trustedreviews.com/camcorders/review/2008/03/15/Panasonic-HDC-HS9-Camcorder/p1
[2] 
http://www.trustedreviews.com/camcorders/review/2008/09/26/Panasonic-HDC-SD100/p1

Re: [backstage] Android UK launch set for Tuesday

[Dave Crossland]

2008/9/25 Brian Butterworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >> >
>> >> > Shall I carry on?
>> >>
>> >> Okay, I agree that for the UI it seems Microsoft has similar features
>> >> to Apple and Google.
>> >
>> > Ah, the Windows, Icons, Mouse and Pointer invented so very long ago by
>> > Xerox
>>
>> Xerox didn't invent touchscreens with (pseudo) 3D accelerated
>> interaction models AFAIK ;p
>
> Sorry, I thought we were talking about the User Interface not the input
> methods...

These aren't as discrete as you suggest; ie, the M in WIMP is an input
method, the WI&P are UIs.

And the UIs of these phones don't seem very WIMPish to me:
Touchscreens collapse the separation between the Mouse and Pointer,
and the screen size of mobile computers is small which means
overlapping Windowing doesn't work well. Thus the visual dominance of
the icons in the iPhone OS UI, and the invisibility of the majority of
the modes of interaction.

> Not sure about touchscreens, Wikipedia says "Virtually all of the
> significant touchscreen technology patents were filed during the 1970s and
> 1980s and have expired."
> And I'm sure that the gyroscopic sensors were around back when "Tomorrow's
> World" was on...

Sure, none of the individual parts - fast CPU, big RAM, solid state
disk, 3D graphics chip, high res color display okay in sunlight, touch
screen input, long battery life, wireless, GPS, gyroscope, and pocket
size form factor for all - are new this decade by a long shot, and I
have a sense that the fastest rate of computer hardware innovation was
in the 70s.

But the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, and the price drop
is staggering.

> Perhaps this just proves Android=mashup OS?

AIUI the iPhone has the mashup OS, because the only way to program it
seriously is with webapps. However, Android (if it isn't fettered) and
OpenMoko (which has protection against fettering via GPL) provide
access to the hardware so developers can really program these devices.

Over on the Free Software Business mailing list recently, Tom Lord
paraphrased Eben Moglen's outline of the strategy of GPLv3:

"The strategy:  engage in diplomacy with [cloud computing
vendors] and push as hard as you can on all forms of
truly personal computing in software freedom.

Rationale:  In 10 years, the number of people with access
to personal computing hardware is going to skyrocket relative
even to today's numbers.  That is where the main action [is].
In 10 years, the ad-broker model will have broken when
the price-bubble on ads bursts and also when users get fed
up with the privatized secret police starting to emerge out
of the muck -- and given all of that available *personal*
computing, the [software freedom] community will have
ample room to work around those scary services."
- http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?msn:12045:cllbikaneglapjlfljcf

(IMO a nice thread if you have time, btw)

In contrast it seems most people are planning for the core of the
network to continue outpacing the periphery. I'm not sure, because it
seems likely that portable computing will follow the same price-power
curve that desktop computing did. Plus, I agree with Moglen/Lord that
there will be several large privacy disasters - of the kind that we in
the UK are most familiar with thanks to our data-greedy yet
incompetent state.

Together this will put people off centralised cloud computing and on
to personal cloud computing.

-- 
Regards,
Dave
(Personal opinion only)
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Re: [backstage] Manchester Free Software Talk: Dave Crossland - Free as in Profit

[Sean DALY]

May I recommend ffmpeg2theora?

for example:
./ffmpeg2theora rawfootage.dv -x 352 -y 288 -v 2 -S 0 -K 128 -c 1 -H
32000 –artist 'Dave Crossland' –title 'Free as in Profit' -date
'September 16, 2008' –location 'Manchester Digital Development Agency
(MDDA)' –organization 'Manchester Free Software
(http://manchester.fsuk.org/blog/)' –copyright '(c) 2008 Dave
Crossland' –license 'Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No
Derivative Works v3.0
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/)' -o
rawfootage.theora.ogg


Sean








On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Tim Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian Butterworth wrote:
>>
>> I'd quite like to come, but can't.  I just love font internals*.
>>  Looking forward to the video, Dave.
>
> Just to follow this up,
> I have the video, I just need to convert it from DV raw to something people
> might want to download ie. not 1GB/min ish
> I am waiting for some hardware, and then I should have the video up.
>
> Good talk by the way Dave!
>
> Tim
>
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