Re: [backstage] iPlayer caching
On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 21:06 +, Andy wrote: 2008/12/18 Brian Butterworth briant...@freeview.tv: And with Adobe's AIR on Linux. [ducks again] It's NOT on Linux. It's on 3 specific distribution versions of Linux. Fedora Core 8, Ubuntu 7.10, openSUSE 10.3 From http://www.adobe.com/products/air/systemreqs/ Ubuntu 7.10 isn't the newest version, neither is it a Long Term Support version, support for 7.10 will be terminated in April 09[1]. This rules out most Ubuntu users who will not be on this version. The newest version of Ubuntu is 8.10[2] (2 versions newer than 7.10). I don't know about Fedora or OpenSuSE, but iPlayer desktop works on Ubuntu Intepid Ibex (8.10). The BBC iPlayer desktop will probably not install on previous versions of Ubuntu as it requires Flash 10 to be installed and that was only released recently. I'm just watching Never Mind the Buzzcocks (http://tinyurl.com/5stc6v) . Shame there doesn't seem to be many programs available for download yet. I'm really impressed with the AIR client, shame you can't browse an available list of programs in the app. Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Dailysnooze Vista Gadgets
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 14:29 +, Fraser Murrell wrote: Hi Terry all, Hang in there on this one - the web hosting company (who shall remain nameless otherwise I will start swearing loudly) - moved my website + services into a special monitoring area at the beginning of the month, and (according to support) forgot to move it back to their production servers. For some reason my domain then got auto-removed from their name servers, so no-one can reach my site. Frustratingly it took me a day to convince their support team that the problem was not a problem with my computer, or my ISP.. Tut! Should apparently be fixed today though. Fasthosts have had a bad few years. I stopped using them when i discovered they didn't have a backup solution and someone attacked the Telewest cable and took all Fasthosts sites down for 10 hours (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/26/telewest_fasthosts/) Anyone able to recommend a decent UK host? Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Flash everywhere
On Wed, 2008-11-19 at 19:19 +, Paul Battley wrote: 2008/11/19 Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Adobe notes that 98 percent of computers have Flash installed, and it is becoming crucial to have it to enjoy the Internet. That is of course, unless you own an iPhone. This is what scares me about Flash. Adobe's gaining a monopoly over the internet. Being dependent on one company is a practical drawback as well as an ideological one: there's no Flash for 64-bit Linux, for example, let alone more obscure platforms, and this is a practical barrier to the emergence of new technologies. They are increasing the availability of Flash as there is an alpha version of Flash 10 for 64-bit Linux that you can download from http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] [ORG-discuss] DRM Free BBC Content on GNU/Linux (Ubuntu)
I have been using this service on off for the past month with Totem plugin in Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex. Its great having all the podcasts, however does anyone know when the news stories will have the correct video attached and not the video of the Channel Tunnel being closed. Shame the Dirac testing stream video has gone, that was a great example of high quality video streaming and a decent cartoon. Adam On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 10:58 +, Mr I Forrester wrote: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/news/archives/2008/11/george_wright_r.html Video and Writing for everyone... enjoy! On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 21:23 +, Rob Myers wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Forrester wrote: I'm trying to get the guys behind this to do a full piece on backstage about it. That would be brilliant! - - Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkKJc4ACgkQCZbRMCZZBfZGDwCggyJV4vo3nVf1xhDEYzyCdzK5 lNYAn1NR/DkUP+H+djo0GaMhXlvFss6Y =e0Mx -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Head Conference
Is anyone going to any of the Head Conference Hubs? Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV Feeds
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 17:21 +0100, Andrew McParland wrote: Adam, Server kicked! Thanks Brian is right that moving forward getting data from /programmes is probably a better idea as this is a supported BBC service rather than our temporary (ahem), experimental TV-Anytime file service and API. Internally we're looking at using /programmes, and the data source it is based on, for our research work so that we wouldn't have to maintain the backstage files and keep the API going as a separate system. Is there anything that you (or others) get from the TV-Anytime files or API that you don't get at the moment from /programmes and would like to see continue in some form? Having a quick comparison of the TV Anytime and Programmes XML the main difference is genre information. This appears on the program detail pages, but not on the program list xml. Other data in the TV Anytime feeds that could be usful, but i don't currently use: * Related Media details (ie normally a link to the show homepage) * Keywords * Accessibility info - whether caption and subtitles are available. * Credits list - its not available for many programs, so i've never seen the point in using it. I'll try and find some time over the next few weeks to switch over to the Programmes API. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Spam was Thinking Digital conference
On Fri, 2008-05-23 at 13:52 +, TRYPHENA BRADE wrote: Thank you for a DECENT reply. We AIM to: * host videos on BBC * the Thinking Digital site Thanking you in advance Sorry, but i don't seem to understand how Gospel music and Basic IT training videos are relevant to the Thinking Digital website. I suggest you research relevant sites and contact them appropriately instead of spamming mailing lists with the same message multiple times. Adam Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 14:20:08 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Thinking Digital conference Tryphena, if you could perhaps reword your initial post, so as we could understand what you are actually trying to acheive, we might be able to help. Are you talking about hosting your videos on BBC or the Thinking Digital site? Clarity and brevity will get you everywhere. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ __ Get Started! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Embracing the torrent of online video
On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 23:46 +, James Cridland wrote: * Yes, yes, RealPlayer. I'm working on it, though, for radio. Expect to see changes in May. Does this mean we might finally get something similar to the streams that are provided by Virgin Radio, ie MP3 streaming? Of course Ogg streams would be nice, but Ogg doesn't work on a standard Windows pcs either and you have previously stated usage on Virgin Radios site is extremely low so its probably not worth the effort. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Xinhua Doctored BBC Screenshot?
A quick check of the Google cache would have told you it has changed and the screen shot is valid. Google claim they crawled the site at 17 Mar 2008 13:09:39 GMT. http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache%3Ahttp% 3A//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7300312.stm Adam On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 23:39 +, Tim Dobson wrote: As someone who has a pronounced dislike of propaganda and misinformation, I have been following the recent events surrounding Tibet, quite carefully. By reading the news stories from both the Chinese and the Western point of view, one can see the large difference in opinions. I was interested today, to read on Xinhua, the Chinese State news agency, that the BBC had been accused of displaying an image of a ambulance with a caption stating that There is a heavy military presence in Lhasa.[1] Interested that it was citing a BBC article, I did a quick search to find the original article and accompanying photo [2]. The caption of the photo on the BBC page instead says There have been many reports of injuries and deaths in Lhasa. Intrigued by the differences that the articles show, I looked at the last updated text in both the Xinhua screenshot and the BBC article. They show exactly the same time and date. From this I would infer that the Xinhua screenshot has been doctored, however, in order to give them the benefit of the doubt: Does anyone BBC-side (or otherwise) have any idea about whether one can change one of these image captions in the live content without updating the last updated tag. If you think there are other explanations or can expand on anything I have said, feel free to. I would not be *surprised* to see doctored screenshot, however I would be interested about it's context and effect. I would also be interested if the BBC had silently changed the caption to this image in question. [1] http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/23/content_7841316.htm [2] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7300312.stm Tim - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC Support page
Just trying to find a support page as i've got a number of errors when accessing the weather page and i've come across this http://www.bbc.co.uk/support/ Shame it isn't a live stream, we could see what the Internet operations are upto. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC iplayer on exotic devices
Andy wrote: Sorry to reply to my own post. Everyone appears to be using a url of the form: rtmp://217.243.192.52:1935/ondemand?_fcs_vhost=cp41752.edgefcs.netauth=SECRET_KEYaifp=v001slist=STREAM_NAME But I can't find it *anywhere* in the iPlayer HTML or Javascript. Can't find it in the XML either. Is it hidden in the actual flash object itself? I am a little wary of hardcoding in an IP. What if the BBC decide they need to switch some machines round and the IP changes? Also would it be possible to turn On indexing in /iplayer/ particularly /iplayer/metafiles so we can see what data is actually in there Firebug is great for tasks like this. The following seems to return an ip, so perhaps it is the method Akamai use for determining the nearest server for streaming the videos. http://cp41752.edgefcs.net/fcs/ident Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer search problem
Michael Smethurst wrote: in the meantime you could try /programmes top gear is at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj59 Excellent, i didn't know that had the streaming programs, plus you get the longer description with the programmes page. Is there any chance you could give some indication if the program has got signing as there doesn't appear to be any clear indications in either iPlayer or the programmes pages. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer search problem
Michael Smethurst wrote: hi adam pips (the database behind both iplayer and /programmes) allows an episode to have multiple 'versions'. each of these versions can have associated on demand availability. and each version has a 'derivation reason' which may be: lengthened, shortened, signed, with burnt in sub-titles etc at the moment iplayer is only exposing a single version of each episode (which may or may not have signing). In time (I believe) multiple versions will be made available. when that happens we'll be able to provide a choice of version where available and (for /programmes at least) navigation faceted by the availability of sign language erm, does that answer your question? Thanks Michael, Yeah, sort of answers my question, although i didn't really explain the question too well. My point was that this top gear episode (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b008gzy6) is signed, yet there is no way on knowing that until you start watching it. If i had downloaded this via the p2p client i would have been a bit disappointed, but then again its available so its better then nothing. The navigation on the Programmes beta site is great, especially the ability to quickly navigate between previous and later episode in the series. Makes it very easy to find episodes that you might have missed. Apart from me being fussy about a few things, iPlayer is great and i'm yet to find a friend who isn't impressed with it Adam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Adam Leach Sent: Fri 12/28/2007 7:02 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer search problem Michael Smethurst wrote: in the meantime you could try /programmes top gear is at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj59 Excellent, i didn't know that had the streaming programs, plus you get the longer description with the programmes page. Is there any chance you could give some indication if the program has got signing as there doesn't appear to be any clear indications in either iPlayer or the programmes pages. Adam
[backstage] iPlayer and TV Anytime Feeds
Hi, With the annoucement that iPlayer is apparently going live on Christmas day, are there any plans to provide links to the programs on iPlayer in the TV-Anytime data feeds. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Advertising on the BBC Website
Hi, I'm currently looking at the latest scores page on the BBC web site (http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/live_scores/default.stm) and there are two adverts on the page. One advert is between the grey and red bar at the top of the page and the other is down the right hand side. Now i'm using a UK ISP Bulldog to access the site, so i'm a bit confused why i am seeing these adverts as the FAQ states that the accuracy is 99.6%. I've just checked my IP address 84.9.146.*** with several free ip to location databases and they all report this ip address is located in the UK. It looks like for some reason i was redirected to http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/ and that appears to be displaying adverts to everyone when they are available. If you access that you will see while the page loads there is a big white box at the top where adverts appear. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] iPlayer Today?
Andy wrote: On 29/07/07, mike chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Options 3, Buy an off the shelf solution and use it. Bonus points if the people whose content your licensing are happy with it and will endemnify you against someone cracking it. Yes use an Off the shelf solution, provided it satisfies the criteria Platform Neutral. The BBC's claim We had no choice but to use MS DRM is clearly false as there where 2 perfectly good options. What are these two perfectly good options that could provide the same fuctionality as Microsoft DRM Kontiki. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Can we have a developer mailing list?
Is there any chance of a separate developer list for discussion of APIs, services, Geek events, etc. The BBC with the encouragement from Ian Matthew are providing some great sources of information for doing mashups and organising some great events like Hackday, but this mailing list is just becoming a BBC Bashing list. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] feeds with icons or pictures?
Jonathan, You asked a similar question a year ago when the rights of images was disscussed. Perhaps you might want to check the archives. Adam ~:'' ありがとうございました。 wrote: Davy, the quality of images used as links is unlikely to present a rights issue. in fact fair use probably covers this in any case. it's more likely a case that it hasn't been considered, combined with most newsreaders not being configured for images... cheers Jonathan Chetwynd On 22 Jul 2007, at 13:01, Davy Mitchell wrote: I think this is a rights issue so the news RSS is text only. I would like to see the User contributed photos on RSS. Thought about screen scraping but backstage does but encourage that. Davy On 7/22/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary, thanks for that...I'm looking for more than just an identity logo, icons or images that change. after all that's what RSS is about... hence my mention of the weather. cheers ~: Jonathan Chetwynd On 21 Jul 2007, at 17:06, Gary Kirk wrote: BBC News has an icon built in to feeds, see my example at http://xinki.org.uk/site On 21/07/07, ~:'' ありがとうございました。 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: feeds with icons or pictures? anyone care to share their favourites? are there any bbc feeds with icons or images, beyond the weather? cheers Jonathan Chetwynd - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- Gary Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/ mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail- archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing
Thanks Andrew, I've been meaning to change my web site to use the api, but that gives me a chance to enjoy the weekend of sport. Adam Andrew McParland wrote: Sorry, we've been having a few problems. For the moment you can find a more up to date set of TV-Anytime schedule data files at: http://72.249.74.119/tv-anytime/ Due to this being a temporary measure the address may change, and the files may not be updated as regularly as we would like, but this should keep you going for a bit. We are working towards a better solution and, for the moment at least, we do intend to keep the files of data coming. We'll keep you informed as any changes happen. Andrew BBC Research and Innovation On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 06:03:37PM +0800, Flynn, Terry wrote: Mario, Thanks, I know about the API but prefer the files if their going to be maintained... its been a couple of weeks now, so suppose I better accept the change :( I'm an old, old UNIX programmer and my tools of choice are C and shell script - have a high level of inertia with these new java and perl thingies... Worked out how to make the API calls with wget, so just a matter of loading my little database - simple update...Thanks again for the suggestion... Terry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mario Menti Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 14:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] BBC TV and Radio 7-day listing On 7/5/07, Flynn, Terry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if I missed any announcement - will Backstage be continuing the TV and Radio schedules in TVAnyTime XML format? Last update was June 21... As screen scraping the web site is illegal, this is the only option available to many of us to get BBC schedules for whatever purpose... Terry I don't know about the plans for the TV-Anytime files, but the best way to get BBC schedule information is probably through the BBC Web API: http://www0.rdthdo.bbc.co.uk/services/api/index.html The API can give you query results in both TV-Anytime or a slightly simpler XML format. HTH, Mario. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today
Nah, its not that bad. The service has worked perfectly for ages, but the server must be having issues at the moment. Phil Winstanley wrote: Perhaps we should rename it TV-Sometimes ? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Leach Sent: 22 June 2007 10:22 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today Hi, There is no TV Anytime data today :-( Could someone give the server a kick. Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ -- received to: andyb.com Message ID : o7c6774f383dc45ad91d15557999db181.pro Sender ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Msg Size : 1k This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. This footer also confirms that this email message has been scanned for the presence of computer viruses, though it is not guaranteed virus free. Original Recipient: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Original Sender : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Send Date: 22/06/2007 - 10:36:53 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] No TV-Anytime Data today
Hi, There is no TV Anytime data today :-( Could someone give the server a kick. Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] TV Anytime Data
Hi, The TV Anytime data for today only appears to have tv information for BBC World Service, BBC Radio 1 BBC Radio2. The file is only 163k, whilst the file is normally 825k. Could you investigate. http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/20070620.tar.gz Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] TV Anytime Data
Excellent, thanks Chris Newell wrote: At 07:47 13/06/2007, Adam Leach wrote: The TV Anytime data file is a zero byte file today. Could you please investigate. http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/ http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/20070613.tar.gz Adam, Problem noted and fixed. Cheers, Chris ___ *Chris Newell *Lead Technologist *BBC Research *Kingswood Warren *Tel:* +44 (0)1737 839659 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Getting Recipe Data
Tom Loosemore wrote: Been there once before a couple of years ago... iirc , every TV chef owns his/her rights to the recipes that appear in aggregate in the recipe db on bbc.co.uk/food So it's fearsomely complex (therefore expensive) to even begin clearing, presuming BBC could ever get the necessary rights from individual chefs, which is doubtful TBH. sorry... How about a searchable rss feed or similar that returns links to the specific recipes. This would be useful in other areas like Top Gear review of cars where it might be useful to link directly to the information. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] TV-Anytime Feeds
Hiya, Over the weekend something seems to have gone wrong with the TV Anytime feeds as all the data files are extremely small and contain no program info. Could someone have a look and give the server a kick Thanks Adam For example more 20070521BBCOne_* :: 20070521BBCOne_cr.xml :: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-9'? ContentReferencingTable xmlns='urn:tva:ContentReferencing:2005' xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' version='1'/ :: 20070521BBCOne_pi.xml :: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-9'? TVAMain xmlns='urn:tva:metadata:2005' xmlns:mpeg7='urn:tva:mpeg7:2005' xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' xml:lang='en' !--This data is strictly for non-commercial use only. See http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/terms_of_use.html for details of the t erms and conditions.-- ProgramDescription ProgramInformationTable/ /ProgramDescription /TVAMain :: 20070521BBCOne_pl.xml :: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='ISO-8859-9'? TVAMain xmlns='urn:tva:metadata:2005' xmlns:mpeg7='urn:tva:mpeg7:2005' xmlns:xsi='http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance' xml:lang='en' !--This data is strictly for non-commercial use only. See http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/terms_of_use.html for details of the t erms and conditions.-- ProgramDescription ProgramLocationTable/ /ProgramDescription /TVAMain - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day
There are a few extra places released if your quick. http://services.google.com/events/developerday_rsvp-en_GB Adam Mr I Forrester wrote: Damm I missed it! Wow they really cranked this up a notch this year!!! Ian Adam Leach wrote: Not sure if anyone has mentioned, but Google is planning a Developer day on 31st May. Spaces are limited, but you can sign up at http://www.google.com/events/developerday/en_GB/details.html Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Google Developer Day
Not sure if anyone has mentioned, but Google is planning a Developer day on 31st May. Spaces are limited, but you can sign up at http://www.google.com/events/developerday/en_GB/details.html Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBC announces 3G mobile syndication trial with Orange, Vodafone and 3
Brian Butterworth wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/03_march/29/3g.s html Can we have the BBC one, BBC THREE and (in particular) BBC News 24 streams online please? If you can stream them on a mobile, it would be useful if they could be provided online in the same format (I mean, that's what you are doing anyway...) I doubt it is that easy. Anyway you can always get a Slingbox and then watch any freeview channels. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Mobile tech fun, anyone?
Kim Plowright wrote: So… an aquaintance is organising a pervasive gaming event on the south bank, and wants to run a mobile phone based game during the event. Is anyone here a genius with any of the following, or know any harware types that might be willing to provide sponsorship in kind? This is *completely without my BBC hat on* by the way. /- automated messaging service (that you can configure to only receive SMS messages so people with old phones can play)/ /- a way of recording phone calls to hard disk (so that we can pick out the best encounters cut together the finished poem in the translation we create)/ /- A connection between the two things so that you get another SMS once you've called the hotline/ /- an easy way of of editing the sound files together/ / / /Ideally this whole process would be automated so that we don't need volunteers to man phone lines all night... / / / /We have no money to speak of so freeware / begborrowsteal solutions greatly appreciated... As you can probably tell from this email I am a dunce when it comes to tech stuff so please speak very slowly... / Kim Hi Kim, The best option is Asterisk (http://asterisk.org/) as it can do the following: * It can record phone calls. Depending on the complexity the standard voicemail system might be perfect as this is designed to record messages and then email them to the specified email address. * Allows creation of automated menu systems * Detects caller-id and this can be recorded in database. * Allows the user of variety of VoIP Services, so you can have a local number for free (ie - sipgate.co.uk) or use a community service like http://voipuser.co.uk. * Its open source and works without problems on most unix/linux/bsd based operating systems, so would work fine with gammu or gnokii Of course it all depends on scale of the gaming event, as if there are going to be large numbers of simultaneous phone calls you will need alot of hardware and bandwidth. If you send details of exactly what you need i might be able to help, but i have never used Asterisk for anything larger then a 1 or 2 users at the same time Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Flash required?
Andy wrote: On 05/03/07, blogHUD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they soon found out that a MASSIVE majority of users to BBC News Online had the version of Flash I needed I was always told we needed the BBC to cater for the people who aren't in the majority. If you are only going to cater for the majority then why do we even bother with a BBC in the first place? I always thought BBC is mainstream and other government media companies like Channel 4 are for the minorities. I think it's amusing when I see people bemoan the use of Flash for things that sure, can be done in AJAX etc. I would recommend never using Flash. By using Flash the BBC is forcing users to enter into a legal contract with a third party, just to use the BBC's site. You can always click the links for the flash free version. No one is forcing you to look at the flash content. I reckon if you took a random sample of people from the street the vast majority would prefer the flash version. Oh and on the subject of VM, how does the flash VM protect me if I am worried about the player itself being hostile? I can not accurately determine what actions it is going to take. I am sorry but I am not skilled enough in reverse engineering to look at binary level data and determine what the code does. Blimey if your that paranoid you should start using lynx immediately. How do you know that all the images on the BBC web site haven't been infected with a virus like the WMF exploit (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-001.mspx), plus all that nasty javascript that is all over the web these days. Anyway i thought this was the BBC Backstage mailing list and not the BBC Bashing mailing list :-P Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Flash required?
Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: Flash required? anyone care to suggest why this is in flash? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/live_stats/html/map.stm seems unhelpful at best. Well Jonathan you can always click on the accessible link on the page http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/live_stats/html/lowbycountry.stm I actually like the animation and the graphics as i feel it adds value to the information. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] BBCHD Free to Air and SKY (non SKY+)
Your be lucky to get something that cheap. Just checked maplins and found a High Definition FTA Satellite Receiver for £200 and it states it can handle BBC HD. (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=99265source=14doy=12m2) The alternative is to use your PC and get a Satelite TV Card (or Freeview card if you are in range of the Crystal Palace Transmitter) and use the PC to decode the HDTV. Adam Dave Ruislip wrote: I cannot seem to get any clarity of my desire to get BBC HD via a traditional (non SKY+) Dish WITHOUT having to go SKYHD Box. There has been mention of Pace Box but someone mentioned there would need to be LNB changes?. Can anyone advise the simple approach. Also something in the region of max 100 pounds seems worth investment. Any advise. THANKS - Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Movies Data
Hi, This looks really useful. One thing i've noticed is the film details don't have a link to the BBC Page, so there is no way of linking back to you easily. Are we allowed to link directly to the Movies Cinema search page from any pages created using these feeds? Adam Matt Chadburn wrote: Hi, Due in part to the new BBC Movies Interactive TV service that launched today we've had the opportunity to tidy up and document the output of a few systems that create the bbc.co.uk/movies site ... - http://www.bbc.co.uk/movies/syndication/1/docs/ The service includes a few handy RSS feeds ... * Weekly Cinema Reviews - Films out in UK cinemas this week. * Coming Soon - Films out in UK cinemas in the next few weeks. * Further Ahead - Approximate release dates for Films out in the next year Along with various parts of the site in various flavours of XML ... * Film Reviews - Official BBC Movies review. Contains cast, crew etc. * User Rating - Star based user ratings. * User Comments - User submitted mini-reviews and opinions. * What's On - Films showing on the BBC this week Would love to hear from anyone with interesting ideas on what they might do with the information or any pointers on improvements we might make. And for Red Button (DSat, Freeview, DCable) fans ... With BBC Movies, you can watch video interviews, reviews, special features and trailers. Plus, you can access cinema listings for your area, win prizes, add your own reviews, and generally keep up to date on all things movies. - http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/bbci/ Thanks, Matt - Interactive Drama Entertainment - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] armageddon or just dark days for Aunty's weather forecasts?
On Realplayer running on Windows XP the forecast starts after 2 minutes of blank screen. Then it starts talking about snow over the weekend. Something strange is going on here Adam Jonathan Chetwynd wrote: armageddon or just dark days for weather forecasts? is Aunty keeping things close to her chest? all I get is a silent black screen for over 4 minutes as the weather forecast, using OS X or win'98, real player or BBC media player ... cheers Jonathan Chetwynd http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/bb/bb_weather_uk.ram or http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/broadband/pg_footer.shtml# - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Funny Story
Gordon Joly wrote: [snip] I have a phone (that runs Windows Mobile) but does not have Flash 8: discuss. You can just download it from http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_pocketpc/ :-P Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...
Quoting Tim Cowlishaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 6/23/06, Adam Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is another point of data collected and gathered using tax/license fee payers money, yet we can't access it without paying substantial fees. I should point out here that BDS are not funded by the license fee, they are a private company, so this may not be true. Yeah, i understand that point, but the BBC ultimately creates the TV schedules and then has agreements with other companies to sell this information. Without Backstage we would have no free access to TV Listings, so thanks Backstage. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you...
This is another point of data collected and gathered using tax/license fee payers money, yet we can't access it without paying substantial fees. Until this changes small/spare time developers will not have the resources to create innovative web sites and ideas that BBC Backstage are trying to support. Adam ps - Sounds like someone isn't making enough money so are looking for another revenue stream Dave Whitehead wrote: James- Looks like you got the same email that Andrew Flegg of http://www.bleb.org/got, he manage to get agreement from BDS that using the bbc tvanytime data doesn't require a fee being paid but he's had to remove the ITV data. You would of thought that tv companies would love for everyone to know when their programmes are on with schedules being the ideal media but sadly not. I think those who allow it for no fee are in a better position, especially as we're moving toward mass PVR usage. Dave http://www25.brinkster.com/lakeuk/xmltv/xmltv.htm - Original Message - From: James Cridland To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: [backstage] Publishing TV listings? BDS are after you... To warn the list: I've just had a veiled legal threat from BDS (a part of Red Bee Media, formerly part of the BBC). The email virtually accuses me of publishing TV schedules against the terms of the Broadcasting Act 1990, and asking me to formerly register my use of TV schedules for BBC (and ITV) so that a licence can be given (which costs many hundreds of pounds a year). There isn't, to my knowledge, any special conditions for personal or non-commercial use of this information; and given that they are quoting the Broadcasting Act 1990 at you, I don't quite see how any terms from BBC Backstage are able to over-ride the "law". I'd quote the email here, but it's apparently 'confidential', and I respect the list-owner. I have reprinted it in full elsewhere, though: they didn't read *my* terms and conditions... As an aside: I don't publish TV schedules. Comments welcome, I suppose... -- http://james.cridland.net/contacting_me/
[backstage] TV Data Feed
Sorry to raise another problem, but the TV Anytime data feed hasn't been created since the 27th May. Thanks Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
Re: [backstage] Today's TV-Anytime tar is broken
Hi, Is there any news of this as there doesn't appear to be a file for today :-( Appart from this problem, the data is really great and I'm currently hacking Perl TV::Anytime to make use of the additional data that is hidden in these files. I'm make a patch available once it is fully working. Adam Quoting Mario Menti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, looks like today's TV-Anytime tar file (20060306.tar.gz at http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/[1]) is broken - could someone fix and replace it? Thanks, Mario. Links: -- [1] /horde/services/go.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbackstage.bbc.co.uk%2Ffeeds%2Ftvradio%2F - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] BBC TV Listings Feed
Hi, The TV Listing feed isn't available yet for today (24-01-2006). Just wondered if your having any problems today generating the feed. Thanks Adam This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC TV Listings Feed
Thanks for the quick response, the updated listing are loaded on my site :-)Adam http://bbc.ask-adders.comQuoting Ben Metcalfe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, The TV Listing feed isn't available yet for today (24-01-2006). Just wondered if your having any problems today generating the feed. Thanks Adam Hi Adam, thanks for your mail. Yeah, not sure what happened but I noticed that there is now an archive for today: http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/feeds/tvradio/20060124.tar.gz It came in just a few minutes ago. Will investigate. Cheers Ben :: backstage.bbc.co.uk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
Re: [backstage] iMP issue
This is a bigger problem as iMP is using standard Microsoft WMA DRM files. As this is widely used, there are more people interested in bypassing the DRM system, and so eventually it will always be bypassed, plus its created by Microsoft. Other codecs are less widely used and known about, so in theory should be more secure. With the BBC providing the shows for free, there is less of a reason to crack the codecs, although someone is always going to try it. Adam vijay chopra wrote: Shame; even thought I hate DRM, I know that PHBs love it, and if they cant work it, it means the Beeb might scram iMP :( On 13/11/05, *Dave Whitehead* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems BBC may have a problem with the iMP trial, apparently it's possible to get round the DRM thus taking away the watch within 7days restriction source - http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.tech.digital-tv http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.tech.digital-tv - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] TV Listing Prototype
Hi, I haven't got around to annoucing my prototype after submitting it last sunday, so here it is. The web site is http://bbc.ask-adders.com/. It provides a simple way of viewing the programs on at the moment and you can drill down to find the genres and then programs that are in the same genre. You can also register and create your own listings, but this needs further development. If you phone 0870 0689 358 or 01483 60462 the TV Listings for the main channels read out to you. This is using Asterisk and a VoIP connection to both voipuser.org and sipgate.co.uk who are providing the PSTN to IP gateway. Finally you can text 07914 229975 with a message and you will be sent the current programs on that channel. The messages you need to send are * TV BBC1 * TV BBC2 * TV BBC3 * TV BBC4 * TV CBBC * TV CBEEBIES * TV NEWS I am interested to hear any feedback. Have fun. Adam - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
