RE: [backstage-developer] BBC or other picture feeds?
kevin, thanks for that, a huge improvement from no images in feeds, is there any prospect of better and larger images in the near future? when compared with yahoo, flickr, ebay etc these thumbnails are very small and in the cases I reviewed close to meaningless... what is this: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44872000/jpg/_44872330_ba 66bbc.jpg without a text description it would be hard rather than impossible to guess. Yes, I agree with you completely - we should have image captions and larger images - let me see who I can 'influence' K. http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk developer discussion group. To unsubscribe, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe backstage-developer [your email] as the message.
RE: [backstage] iPlayer: Sky re-invents web links
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 20 October 2008 14:19 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] iPlayer: Sky re-invents web links Couldn't really let this one pass without comment: http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?entry=sky_re_invents_web_links In perhaps one of the most disingenuous claims in the history of marketing, Sky and the BBC have announced a deal to combine Sky Player and iPlayer. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2008/10_october/2 0/iplayer.shtml The BBC and Sky have announced that BBC iPlayer can now be accessed via Sky Player, Sky's online TV service. what's disingenuous about that? Sky could just as easily have refused to link to the iPlayer: the fact that they didn't is worth a press release, IMO. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC DRM iplayer mobiles etc
Iain Wallace wrote: So it looks like C4 is shareholder-free. Wow, every day is a school day. I never realised that. Even so, none of my money is going towards Channel 4 so I don't feel like it's any of my business how they digitally distribute their programming. In a sense, some of your money goes towards Channel 4 because they get free analogue spectrum in return for their public service responsibilities. Hard to say exactly what the value of that subsidy is. Whatever happened to backstage's OFCOM mole? Kevin. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Film Reviews
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 03 June 2008 19:00 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Film Reviews I have forwarded this good idea on. I've also commented that associated RSS feeds should return a 404 for sites we no longer maintain. 410 Gone would be more informative? -- Kevin Hinde Head of Delivery Assurance, Journalism BBC Future Media Technology BC3 C1, Broadcast Centre t: 020 800 84725 (02 84725) m: 0771 501 2424 (072 84725) aim:kwdhinde - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] RSS Feed Thumbnails Missing
following up... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fraser Murrell Sent: 10 March 2008 18:37 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] RSS Feed Thumbnails Missing Hi, I noticed that for all news RSS feeds, the media:thumbnail elements that normally provided us with a link to a thumbnail image of a particular article is no longer present.. As of around 11:00 this morning (GMT) they started to disappear, and now there are none! Will they be back? I hope so! J Kind Regards, Fraser - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC News font size issue
On 11/03/2008, *Matthew Somerville* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know who would be the right person to contact about the fact that some BBC News pages now (as in, it only started very recently) appear quite different in Opera 9 to Firefox and IE? It's only the body text font size on pages with a div class=storybody, which makes me think it's probably not deliberate. :-) we have, recently and deliberately, removed a font tag from the story body, but Opera shouldn't go into quirks mode - I think that's because we're declaring doctype as !doctype html public -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd; where it should be !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd; although I should probably check with someone who knows what they're talking about first... K. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] What would you do? (Was: BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter)
Brian Butterworth said: £45 million a year is spent on BBC Radio 3. It seems a poor use of this spending to not allow the classical music to be podcasted, I was shocked when the Trust showed a certain myopia on this front. It's not like any of this music has copyright issues, for a start. I suspect someone on the BBC Trust board is a member of the Musician's Union. You know the people - they campaign under the banner recordings are killing live music, which is demonstrably untrue. It looks like the Trust has been influenced by lobbying from the UK classical music publishing industry: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article1082971.ece Anthony Anderson, managing director of Naxos UK, one of the biggest publishers of classical-music CDs, complained: By offering downloads for nothing, the BBC was distorting the marketplace. Is this what a public-sector broadcaster, largely funded by the licence fee, should be doing? [Zarin] Patel [of the BBC] said the Beethoven downloads were an experiment and the BBC was surprised by the level of the response. It would think very hard before doing the same thing again. We would probably do it in partnership with the classical-music publishing industry, she said. which at least shows that if you're concerned about the direction the BBC is heading, then lobbying the Trust can be an effective way of getting the BBC to head in a different one. K. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again
Brian Butterworth said * Everyone currently has to pay the licenece fee, as long as they have equipment capable of receiving television broadcasts (from analogue terrestrial, Freeview, Sky/Freesat, cable or IPTV). Mr Highfield, as the BBC's representative, is breaking the trust of the Licence Fee payers HE has determined to ignore. The license fee gives you a license to own equipment capable of receiving broadcast television. If all you have in your house is a computer (no TV card) and an internet connection, then you don't have to pay a license fee. So you can use the iPlayer without paying the license fee. Kevin. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC tech chief: You Freetards don't matter
BT Tech Chief: You freetards *do* matter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/open_standards.html
RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again
I said: I'll see if I can get Linux stats for you. Ashley has posted an update: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2007/11/linux_figures_1.html Here's what you get from Sage if you ask for a report on OS Type (as announced in the User-Agent string) and User numbers, over the month of September 2007. This isn't exactly the data that Ashley is using but I thought it might be useful for you to see the data we see. For *.bbc.co.uk: OS Type Users % of Total Users Windows 247,012,744 88.74 Macintosh 17,353,438 6.23 Nokia 3,675,224 1.32 Liberate2,784,762 1 SonyEricsson2,116,766 0.76 BlackBerry 1,921,066 0.69 Motorola1,062,323 0.38 Symbian 925,465 0.33 Samsung 802,450 0.29 LG 216,972 0.08 Orange 134,995 0.05 Sagem 104,371 0.04 TMobile 61,687 0.02 O2 39,747 0.01 Sharp 38,373 0.01 NEC 30,606 0.01 Panasonic 16,369 0.01 Linux 15,886 0.01 Sprint 13,175 0 BenQ12,008 0 DOS 9,300 0 Philips 5,853 0 VK 3,926 0 ZTE 3,523 0 Unix3,224 0 Sanyo 1,656 0 Toshiba 1,236 0 Siemens 1,067 0 Sun 539 0 Linux-gnu 171 0 IRIX88 0 AIX 85 0 HP-UX 48 0 Treo30 0 OSF111 0 Palm11 0 Lobster 10 0 Nextel 2 0 Total: 278,369,207 For news.bbc.co.uk only: OS Type Users % of Total Users Windows 113,519,850 90.49 Macintosh 10,866,724 8.66 BlackBerry 363,497 0.29 SonyEricsson180,916 0.14 Symbian 161,462 0.13 Nokia 150,007 0.12 Orange 54,518 0.04 Motorola52,587 0.04 TMobile 22,694 0.02 Samsung 20,939 0.02 O2 11,315 0.01 NEC 9,684 0.01 LG 8,218 0.01 Sprint 7,338 0.01 Linux 6,832 0.01 Unix2,764 0 VK 1,052 0 DOS 1,026 0 Sharp 968 0 ZTE 318 0 Sun 308 0 Sagem 265 0 Liberate187 0 Toshiba 175 0 Sanyo 116 0 BenQ91 0 Linux-gnu 86 0 Siemens 77 0 Philips 62 0 IRIX49 0 AIX 42 0 HP-UX 32 0 Panasonic 25 0 Treo10 0 OSF110 0 Palm10 0 Lobster 8 0 Nextel 1 0 Total: 125,444,263 Kevin. -- Kevin Hinde Head of Software Development, Journalism BBC Future Media Technology BC3 C1, Broadcast Centre t: 020 800 84725 m: 0771 501 2424 aim:kwdhinde - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Ashley Highfield speaks again
Matt Hammond wrote: If the usage profile of those linux users is broadly comparable to those of the other platforms you're probably right. One other thought: Ashley Highfield's comments may only relate to the main www.bbc.co.uk site - excluding BBC news. Historically the news have run and managed a separate operation iirc (though that may now be changing). It's separate webservers and a separate ops team, but there has always been some shared infrastructure. I'll see if I can get Linux stats for you. Kevin. -- Kevin Hinde Head of Software Development, Journalism BBC Future Media Technology BC3 C1, Broadcast Centre t: 020 800 84725 m: 0771 501 2424 aim:kwdhinde - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Thoughts from a previous BBC employee
But the BBC is a corporation, and not a company? It has no need to make profits, for example. Gordo BBC Worldwide Ltd is a part of the BBC which needs to make profits. The profits go back into the BBC corporation to help pay for all the things the corporation wants to do. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/bbcworldwide/worldwidestories/pressrele ases/2007/06_june/annual_review_2006_07.shtml Kevin. -- Think Feynman/ http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/// - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] BBC Video RSS feeds guid
This can cause feed readers to duplicate the item. Please would someone pass this on to the relevant people.. My apologies if this has already been discussed. Hi Paul, consider it passed on, thanks! - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Inside the BBC News site
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cashmore
Sent: 21 August 2007 10:17
To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk
Subject: Re: [backstage] Inside the BBC News site
Good question - let me speak to the news guys - it may be worth doing a
podcast about it's history and how it works.
I do know however that it's a bespoke system build
specifically for BBC News
- which has a very unique set of requirements - it's grown over several
versions over the last five years or so and it's a BIG beast that has
journalists using it cursing and praising it in equal amounts!
No Matthew, you've made an elementary error there. They only praise it.
What were you thinking?
I wrote this article two years ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4606719.stm
which was in response to some questions asked on the predecessor to the
editors' blog, but it's far too high level to be of much interest I
think?
(I didn't choose the stupid title. It's extra unfortunate because for
Americans, a 'bonnet' is always a kind of hat, never a protective
covering for a car's engine. So it creates a mental image of the BBC
News website personified as the flighty younger sister from a Jane
Austen novel.)
Happy to answer any questions on this list.
The URL structure is like this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/{edition}/{flavour}/{section_path}{story_id}.stm
(e.g
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4606719.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6970021.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6295138.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6295138.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/697031
8.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/funny_old_game/6970110.stm
)
edition: (sport)?(1|2)
BBC News website is available in two editions, international and
domestic. All the stories are available on both the editions, but there
is a different navigational structure, different promotions in the
banner and footer, and a different editorial focus on the index pages.
flavour: (hi|low)
There's a low bandwidth version of each story page with the HTML
tables and non-editorial images stripped out.
section_path: ([a-z_]+/)+
Each story has a home section which indicates its major
category.
Most home sections have an associated index page.
NB that stories often appear on indexes other than their home
sections. For example, a story about a football team's share price could
have home section business and also appear on the
football/teams/m/manchester_united index.
storry_id: (\d+|default)
For story pages, it's the database ID of the story
For index pages, it's always 'default', and you can just refer
to the index pages as '/' of course.
That's the main URL structure. There are quite a few variants. I'm
afraid I wouldn't recommend making too many inferences based the
structure I've described above.
Kevin
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Technical Design Authority, Journalism
BBC Future Media Technology
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m: 0771 501 2424
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RE: [backstage] A decent editorially-ordered BBC News feed?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Cridland Sent: 21 May 2007 13:58 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] A decent editorially-ordered BBC News feed? They don't show the same for me. Which is odd. I've done a tracert - and I (through Demon) am apparently connecting to the NYC boxes, which is a little peculiar. hm, that may be your problem. Could you post your traceroute for news.bbc.co.uk and newsrss.bbc.co.uk? In our content production system, the RSS page and the HTML page templates both order the stories in the same editorially-defined order. There is sometimes a lag in publishing between our London servers and our New York servers - New York can be a little behind. If you are requesting from Demon you should be sent to the London servers, not New York. Here's my route from an easynet-hosted box: $ traceroute newsrss.bbc.co.uk traceroute to newsrss.bbc.net.uk (212.58.226.33), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 fa2-0.pepo.router.flirble.org (194.70.3.1) 1.092 ms 1.271 ms 1.158 ms 2 fa5-0-103.cr1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.134.0.1) 0.865 ms 0.684 ms 0.574 ms 3 ge0-2-0-0.br1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.0.3) 0.868 ms 0.990 ms 0.868 ms 4 ge0-1-0.er4.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.12.45) 0.721 ms 0.852 ms 1.310 ms 5 ge1-0-0.er3.tclon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.146) 2.496 ms 0.844 ms 0.866 ms 6 ge0-0-0.er3.thlon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.150) 1.014 ms 1.721 ms 1.601 ms 7 ip-217-204-60-121.easynet.co.uk (217.204.60.121) 1.014 ms 0.989 ms 1.305 ms 8 bbc-gw0-easynet.prt0.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (217.204.61.146) 2.185 ms 1.211 ms 1.634 ms 9 212.58.238.133 (212.58.238.133) 1.301 ms 1.437 ms 1.754 ms 10 newslb13.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.226.33) 1.744 ms 1.773 ms 1.575 ms $ traceroute news.bbc.co.uk traceroute to newswww.bbc.net.uk (212.58.226.20), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 fa2-0.pepo.router.flirble.org (194.70.3.1) 1.153 ms 1.069 ms 0.863 ms 2 fa5-0-103.cr1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.134.0.1) 0.718 ms 0.555 ms 0.574 ms 3 ge0-2-0-0.br1.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.0.3) 1.015 ms 1.594 ms 1.138 ms 4 ge0-1-0.er4.bllon.uk.easynet.net (212.135.12.45) 0.719 ms 0.850 ms 1.022 ms 5 ge1-0-0.er3.tclon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.146) 1.448 ms 1.285 ms 0.739 ms 6 ge0-0-0.er3.thlon.uk.easynet.net (82.108.6.150) 1.439 ms 0.851 ms 1.015 ms 7 ip-217-204-60-225.easynet.co.uk (217.204.60.225) 1.454 ms 1.147 ms 1.303 ms 8 bbc-gw0-easynet.prt0.rbsov.bbc.co.uk (217.204.61.146) 143.265 ms 2.156 ms 5.292 ms 9 212.58.238.133 (212.58.238.133) 1.815 ms 1.585 ms 2.337 ms 10 newslb11.thdo.bbc.co.uk (212.58.226.20) 2.188 ms 2.614 ms 1.606 ms Does iGoogle support RSS simple list extensions http://blogs.msdn.com/rssteam/articles/SimpleListExtensionsExplained.asp x? We should use that to explicitly state the running order. Kevin. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Mobile tech fun, anyone?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Plowright Sent: 19 March 2007 19:03 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Mobile tech fun, anyone? So... an aquaintance is organising a pervasive gaming event on the south bank, and wants to run a mobile phone based game during the event. This is probably nothing at all like what you want, but have you seen Web21C: http://sdk.bt.com/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx Kevin - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/default.stm
And whilst asking, how does the Beeb choose the FROM THE BLOGOSPHERE comments? A journalist reads the blogosphere, and chooses something. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
[backstage] Pipes
Has everyone already seen http://pipes.yahoo.com/ ? -- Kevin Hinde BBC News Interactive 020 8752 5209 0771 501 2424 aim:kwdhinde
RE: [backstage] BBC launches a Homepage that validates!!!
I'll have to look into the meta tag. Given we're not serving the file as that mime type, changing it will probably upset someone else. But definitely give it due consideration. The W3C recommends that you *should* serve XHTML as application/xhtml+xml, but you *may* serve it as text/html if you follow the HTML Compatibility Guidelines (which we do). http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-media-types/#summary. Odd things start happening when you serve XHTML as application/xhtml+xml, including - firefox doesn't support incremental loading of XML documents yet: http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html#accept - if the client is not a validating parser it may not expand character entity references like copy; and deg; as these are declared in the DTD. - IE doesn't understand (because it doesn't want to do it if it can't do it properly: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/15/467901.aspx) Kevin. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Have Your Say broken timestamps in RSS feeds
Thanks John, we'll have a look. Kevin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Leach Sent: 11 December 2006 13:09 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Have Your Say broken timestamps in RSS feeds Hi, whilst adapting News Sniffer[1] to the new Have Your Say RSS feed format, I found some mangled timestamps with the time exceeding 24:00:00. For example, in the recent Pinochet death thread[2] feed[3] there is an item with a dc:date field of 2006-12-11T24:40:03+. The pubDate field translates this to Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:40:03 +. Even if the poster (Alex Golzari) lives on Mars he'd have trouble posting a comment with this time stamp. This leaves only Mercury and Venus. Either than or a bug in the HYS software. Assuming a bug, I've written a workaround for News Sniffer but you might want to look into this. I can't find a time format standard that allows times exceeding 24:00:00. John. http://johnleach.co.uk [1]http://newssniffer.newworldodour.co.uk [2]http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=4954 [3]http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/rss/rssmessages.jspa?threadI D=4954numItems=500 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/ - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] News Sniffer - inner workings
I'm currently wasting a lot of bandwidth due to your HYS RSS feeds having no useful caching headers. IIRC, the last modified header always reports the current time, there are no etags, and there aren't even any Content-length headers! I believe this is the same for your news articles too (though it's been a few weeks since I last poked around tbh) Yes, I'm afraid we only have content-length and Etag on our non-HYS RSS feeds. Kevin. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] News API down? (News+sport still fine)
you have to put in a search term e.g. http://newsapi.bbc.co.uk/feeds/search/news/venezuela -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Morris Sent: 26 October 2006 12:32 To: Ian Forrester; backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] News API down? (News+sport still fine) http://newsapi.bbc.co.uk/feeds/search/news/ http://newsapi.bbc.co.uk/feeds/search/news/ returns 404 for me, but has only started doing that today (seemingly!) Am i using the api incorrectly, or is the service down? Cheers :) Daniel Morris | Web Developer BBC Entertainment : Manchester : New Media int. 01 44217 ext. 0161 244 4217 - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk/
RE: [backstage] Deals for commercial sites
Hello Amias, if you would like to investigate commercial options for the use of our feeds, you should contact our Business Development Manager - there's a contact form here: www.bbc.co.uk/syndication. Kevin. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 June 2005 14:52 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Deals for commercial sites Hello BBC'ers, Could anyone comment on the availability of RSS feed licenses for commercial applications ? If i wanted to create an application that used BBC RSS feeds and displayed them in a interesting and useful way for which i wanted to charge for access too , are there other licenses that might cover this ? Toodle-pip Amias - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds
Hi Ian, have you thought of putting a 301 redirect at the old location for a couple of weeks? We did that when we renamed ours and it works well - most aggregators seem to handle the 301 correctly and permanently update with the new location... Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 27 June 2005 12:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds Hi All, I just wanted to announce the change of URL for Language News feeds. The page http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/LanguageNews?v=tz1 points to *.rdf named files which have changed to *.xml files now. (This page will be changed soon). So if you are using or thinking of using Language feeds in your prototypes or services remember to change the .rdf to .xml to receive no disruptions now or in the future. Thanks in advanced... Ian Forrester | BBC World Service [New Media Software Engineer] and Cubicgarden.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
FW: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds
Whoops. Meant to send that direct to Ian. Sorry backstage. -Original Message- From: Kevin Hinde Sent: 27 June 2005 13:03 To: 'backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk' Subject: RE: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds Hi Ian, have you thought of putting a 301 redirect at the old location for a couple of weeks? We did that when we renamed ours and it works well - most aggregators seem to handle the 301 correctly and permanently update with the new location... Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Forrester Sent: 27 June 2005 12:34 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds Hi All, I just wanted to announce the change of URL for Language News feeds. The page http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/data/LanguageNews?v=tz1 points to *.rdf named files which have changed to *.xml files now. (This page will be changed soon). So if you are using or thinking of using Language feeds in your prototypes or services remember to change the .rdf to .xml to receive no disruptions now or in the future. Thanks in advanced... Ian Forrester | BBC World Service [New Media Software Engineer] and Cubicgarden.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
RE: [backstage] Change of URL's for Language news feeds
Where http://benmetcalfe.com/blog/index.php/feed/ is the url of the new feed. You've got Kosso's mate Dave W to thank for this standard I believe (http://radio.userland.com/stories/storyReader$19964). Most newsreaders will also update their feed url information when served this Dave W's docs only refer to NetNewsWire support - does anyone have a full list of aggregators which support it? - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html.
